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I know this has turned into somewhat of a build thread, but had a question for some of you more in-tune with the Jeep markets.
Are these 2023 deals pretty much dried up? I am seeing 2023 models listed higher than 2024 models in my AO... Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By coregon: I know this has turned into somewhat of a build thread, but had a question for some of you more in-tune with the Jeep markets. Are these 2023 deals pretty much dried up? I am seeing 2023 models listed higher than 2024 models in my AO... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/Screenshot_2024-05-02_at_9_14_32 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/Screenshot_2024-05-02_at_9_14_55 View Quote Right now the deals don't seem so great, unless it's a super-low APR. There's a '24 Willys locally that is more than what I paid for my '21 Rubicon. No thanks. Prices will remain inflated as the prime shopping season for new Jeeps has started. |
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Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja: Anyone know what's the biggest tire size you can go on a stock Mojave? I'm interested, but not enough to change wheels, spacers, lifts, etc. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By coregon: I know this has turned into somewhat of a build thread, but had a question for some of you more in-tune with the Jeep markets. Are these 2023 deals pretty much dried up? I am seeing 2023 models listed higher than 2024 models in my AO... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/Screenshot_2024-05-02_at_9_14_32 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/Screenshot_2024-05-02_at_9_14_55 View Quote Currently Jeep is offering 7% off MSRP until 6/30. That isn’t as good as the 15% they were offering, plus dealers were taking another 2-7% off on top, in some cases more. However sales are still pretty slow, so you can probably get quite a bit off with the right dealer. Not sure how much ‘23 inventory is left. |
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Originally Posted By superdoc: I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler that’s getting up in mileage, I am considering upgrading to a Gladiator, I remember an old tread and now you can get a new one for less than 40k. why are they so cheap? Any reasons not to? Basically city streets and flat off road so nothing 4 wheel super complex. View Quote Get a RAM 1500 instead. Better in every way except off-roading, which you don't need anyway. Originally Posted By OregonShooter: They cheap as fuck right now: There are also lightly used lifted gladiators on a pile of used car lots now. View Quote Supply and demand. Why is demand so low? Hmmmmmmm |
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Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja: Anyone know what’s the biggest tire size you can go on a stock Mojave? I’m interested, but not enough to change wheels, spacers, lifts, etc. View Quote 35s will fit per my research. I plan on doing new wheels when I upgrade too but it’s not necessary. I’ve never looked forward to OEM tires wearing out more than these. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: 35s will fit per my research. I plan on doing new wheels when I upgrade too but it’s not necessary. I’ve never looked forward to OEM tires wearing out more than these. View Quote I have read that 37s will even fit a Mojave, it will be tight though with little room for articulation. I'm tired of staring at my wheels and am going to say fuck it and buy tires pretty shortly here. |
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Bump to save from the archives.
Think I’ve settled on this tire. Got a pistol to sell next week and that should just about put me there. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Bump to save from the archives. Think I’ve settled on this tire. Got a pistol to sell next week and that should just about put me there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6229_jpeg-3210638.JPG View Quote Godspeed my man. New tires and wheels day is a good day indeed. I have an appointment at Line-X next Friday. After that I can begin setting up the bed for cargo/tools. We're busy as Hell and I need to get my gear organized and secured ASAP. |
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Bump.
Not mine, but I pulled the spare from a new Bronco to access the back gate. 315/75/17, almost exactly 34” by my tape measure. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: Got my bedliner done this morning, came out great. https://i.ibb.co/VWjkR6V/20240517-150758.jpg View Quote Looks good. What did you pay? Line-X here does not return email inquiries nor phone calls. |
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$650 for their premium product, in and out in about an hour and a half. It dries pretty much instantly, so I didn't have to wait to haul some stuff today. Very pleased.
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Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja: Anyone know what’s the biggest tire size you can go on a stock Mojave? I’m interested, but not enough to change wheels, spacers, lifts, etc. View Quote Attached File Stock Mojave with 35x12.5s on stock wheels |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: $650 for their premium product, in and out in about an hour and a half. It dries pretty much instantly, so I didn't have to wait to haul some stuff today. Very pleased. View Quote I did Herculiner for maybe $125 total. Pain in the ass, came out ok but I won’t do it myself again. |
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Originally Posted By LoudLyle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493363/IMG_5632_jpeg-3216974.JPG Stock Mojave with 35x12.5s on stock wheels View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LoudLyle: Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja: Anyone know what’s the biggest tire size you can go on a stock Mojave? I’m interested, but not enough to change wheels, spacers, lifts, etc. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493363/IMG_5632_jpeg-3216974.JPG Stock Mojave with 35x12.5s on stock wheels *hnnnngh* that’s my jam. I have the hard top tho. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I did Herculiner for maybe $125 total. Pain in the ass, came out ok but I won’t do it myself again. View Quote Yeah I know you can DIY and save a bunch, but it is a project. I really like the Upol Raptor product and have had good results with it in the past. The Line-X looks very much professionally done and I knew immediately upon seeing their work that I could not have executed as well as they did. Money well spent imo. Next up is deciding on off road lighting package and pulling trigger. I really like the KC Flex Era lighting. Always had good luck with KC. The aux switch bank is staring at me every day lol. So cool Jeep integrated that, even though I do enjoy wiring rigs up. |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: Yeah I know you can DIY and save a bunch, but it is a project. I really like the Upol Raptor product and have had good results with it in the past. The Line-X looks very much professionally done and I knew immediately upon seeing their work that I could not have executed as well as they did. Money well spent imo. Next up is deciding on off road lighting package and pulling trigger. I really like the KC Flex Era lighting. Always had good luck with KC. The aux switch bank is staring at me every day lol. So cool Jeep integrated that, even though I do enjoy wiring rigs up. View Quote Lots of lighting choices and good ones. You can’t go wrong with KC. I would like to get the OEM switch pack too. You can buy it and wire it into the BCM. I have a tazer to activate it. (And bump to save from the archives LOL) |
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In case anyone’s looking, Bulletpoint Mounting Solutions has a 15% Memorial Day sale on with this code MemorialDay24 - if you need or want a dashboard mount solution for your vehicles.
Plus free shipping over $50. I’m upgrading my Rubigrid to the new style for more real estate. Click |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Originally Posted By macman37: In case anyone’s looking, Bulletpoint Mounting Solutions has a 15% Memorial Day sale on with this code MemorialDay24 - if you need or want a dashboard mount solution for your vehicles. Plus free shipping over $50. I’m upgrading my Rubigrid to the new style for more real estate. Click View Quote New style? Guess I’ll have to look at their site. I have the single mount with the small plate that goes on the left side only. Kinda wish I’d bought the large one. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: New style? Guess I’ll have to look at their site. I have the single mount with the small plate that goes on the left side only. Kinda wish I’d bought the large one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By macman37: In case anyone’s looking, Bulletpoint Mounting Solutions has a 15% Memorial Day sale on with this code MemorialDay24 - if you need or want a dashboard mount solution for your vehicles. Plus free shipping over $50. I’m upgrading my Rubigrid to the new style for more real estate. Click New style? Guess I’ll have to look at their site. I have the single mount with the small plate that goes on the left side only. Kinda wish I’d bought the large one. Yeah there are several styles. The one I bought screws into the factory holes and is one piece but a narrower section for the balls to mount to. The new one is two-piece and the balls can mount full width. I have two phone mounts plus a dash cam and it’s a little crowded. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993. Soli Deo Gloria |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Paid for tires, appointment for Thursday. Pretty excited! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6760_jpeg-3225787.JPG View Quote Nice! That didn't take long. Post pics when you get a chance. My Jeep mod attention span has been temporarily hijacked by tractor shopping. Narrowed it down to Kubota or Kioti. |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: Nice! That didn't take long. Post pics when you get a chance. My Jeep mod attention span has been temporarily hijacked by tractor shopping. Narrowed it down to Kubota or Kioti. View Quote I definitely will. Gonna be halting mods for a while after this. Mainly due to needing to save funds. Next on the list is a front bumper and winch. Then a rear bumper. Those items are fairly pricey and I don’t have anymore guns that I’m willing to sell |
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My ownership experience so far. Bought a 2023 Gladiator Rubicon last November during the fire sale, 12K off MSRP. Almost immediately had issues with the Service ABS/Parking Brake/Sway Bar/Auto Start Stop lights coming on and all the gauges not working. Was intermit and the dealer could not replicate. Fast forward to January and it's now a near constant problem and if you turn the Jeep off it won't restart unless you disconnect the negative cable, which I found out removes the "active codes", so once again, could not duplicate since it wouldn't do it when the dealer had it for days at a time. Now into late April and it's undrivable, keeps leaving me stranded, dealer is like we can't duplicate, no idea what to do. So i pick it up and leaving the dealership it does it again, I turn around, grab the service rep and say, can you duplicate now? Pulls 29 active codes and says they will fix it, keep it 10 days, repalce the ABC Module and say it's good to go. Pick it up and on the drive home it does it again, turn around and same thing, they pull 29 codes. This time they have it another week, replace the system bus connectors and what I believe was the problem all along a ABS sensor on one of the wheels that was installed wrong, the wire was stretched and the connector pulled a part. So 32 days at the dealer ship over 5 months, having to argue and open cases with Jeep Cares to get a rental car, that I paid for up front and I'm still waiting to be reimbursed for and icing on the cake someone drained the tank while they had it and they reluctantly had it topped off.
This thing has been a disaster, I've wasted so much time dealing with Jeep Cares and the Dealership. I do like it, but damn it's been nothing but a pain in my ass. I'm at the point if it does it again I'll lemon law it and move on. |
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Originally Posted By JeepinMark: My ownership experience so far. Bought a 2023 Gladiator Rubicon last November during the fire sale, 12K off MSRP. Almost immediately had issues with the Service ABS/Parking Brake/Sway Bar/Auto Start Stop lights coming on and all the gauges not working. Was intermit and the dealer could not replicate. Fast forward to January and it's now a near constant problem and if you turn the Jeep off it won't restart unless you disconnect the negative cable, which I found out removes the "active codes", so once again, could not duplicate since it wouldn't do it when the dealer had it for days at a time. Now into late April and it's undrivable, keeps leaving me stranded, dealer is like we can't duplicate, no idea what to do. So i pick it up and leaving the dealership it does it again, I turn around, grab the service rep and say, can you duplicate now? Pulls 29 active codes and says they will fix it, keep it 10 days, repalce the ABC Module and say it's good to go. Pick it up and on the drive home it does it again, turn around and same thing, they pull 29 codes. This time they have it another week, replace the system bus connectors and what I believe was the problem all along a ABS sensor on one of the wheels that was installed wrong, the wire was stretched and the connector pulled a part. So 32 days at the dealer ship over 5 months, having to argue and open cases with Jeep Cares to get a rental car, that I paid for up front and I'm still waiting to be reimbursed for and icing on the cake someone drained the tank while they had it and they reluctantly had it topped off. This thing has been a disaster, I've wasted so much time dealing with Jeep Cares and the Dealership. I do like it, but damn it's been nothing but a pain in my ass. I'm at the point if it does it again I'll lemon law it and move on. View Quote That sucks, sorry you had bad luck. Hopefully that cured the problem and you can enjoy it now. How does a wheel get installed wrong? |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: That sucks, sorry you had bad luck. Hopefully that cured the problem and you can enjoy it now. How does a wheel get installed wrong? View Quote He means the ABS sensor was installed wrong. Shitty luck. Hopefully it’s fixed, I’d definitely be taking the lemon law route. Seems like not a lot of these have issues but when the do, they are big issues. |
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Originally Posted By JeepinMark: My ownership experience so far. Bought a 2023 Gladiator Rubicon last November during the fire sale, 12K off MSRP. Almost immediately had issues with the Service ABS/Parking Brake/Sway Bar/Auto Start Stop lights coming on and all the gauges not working. Was intermit and the dealer could not replicate. Fast forward to January and it's now a near constant problem and if you turn the Jeep off it won't restart unless you disconnect the negative cable, which I found out removes the "active codes", so once again, could not duplicate since it wouldn't do it when the dealer had it for days at a time. Now into late April and it's undrivable, keeps leaving me stranded, dealer is like we can't duplicate, no idea what to do. So i pick it up and leaving the dealership it does it again, I turn around, grab the service rep and say, can you duplicate now? Pulls 29 active codes and says they will fix it, keep it 10 days, repalce the ABC Module and say it's good to go. Pick it up and on the drive home it does it again, turn around and same thing, they pull 29 codes. This time they have it another week, replace the system bus connectors and what I believe was the problem all along a ABS sensor on one of the wheels that was installed wrong, the wire was stretched and the connector pulled a part. So 32 days at the dealer ship over 5 months, having to argue and open cases with Jeep Cares to get a rental car, that I paid for up front and I'm still waiting to be reimbursed for and icing on the cake someone drained the tank while they had it and they reluctantly had it topped off. This thing has been a disaster, I've wasted so much time dealing with Jeep Cares and the Dealership. I do like it, but damn it's been nothing but a pain in my ass. I'm at the point if it does it again I'll lemon law it and move on. View Quote Straight up lemon law that bitch and get another. Life’s too short to deal with that, even from something that (when it is built right and works) should be so awesome. |
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Much better.
Wish the fronts didn’t poke quite so much, but it’s whatever. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Much better. Wish the fronts didn’t poke quite so much, but it’s whatever. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6813_jpeg-3227418.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6816_jpeg-3227419.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6815_jpeg-3227421.JPG View Quote Dude. DUDE! Looks freaking awesome. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Much better. Wish the fronts didn’t poke quite so much, but it’s whatever. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6813_jpeg-3227418.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6816_jpeg-3227419.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/578900/IMG_6815_jpeg-3227421.JPG View Quote Looks great! How does it ride? I found mine rode a lot more comfortably with the bigger tires, absorbed bumps etc much better. |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: Looks great! How does it ride? I found mine rode a lot more comfortably with the bigger tires, absorbed bumps etc much better. View Quote The OEM ride was pretty soft. Hard to tell. I think this is maybe slightly softer. It’s definitely a little more “squishy” in the handling department. Which I expected. Tires make a little noise under acceleration but are fairly quiet at a constant speed. Overall I think they will do the job. Next up is a front bumper and winch. Will probably take a little while for me to save the money for those. |
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First "long" trip today. 145 miles to a match and back.
21.6 mpg. I took a trip up north last weekend with similar mileage, saw 25.1... So, 3-4 MPG hit from the tires. Not totally surprised. I would not want to run anything bigger than these(34" or close to it) without regearing. The truck does get into 8th gear at regular highway and interstate speeds. Still, better mileage than my F150 3.5 got. I'm really glad I did PPF on the fenders. The rears get hit with everything. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By macman37: *hnnnngh* that’s my jam. I have the hard top tho. View Quote Attached File Here it is with the hard top |
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Originally Posted By LoudLyle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493363/IMG_6015_jpeg-3230845.JPG Here it is with the hard top View Quote Are those a little bigger than the OEM Mojave tires? |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Are those a little bigger than the OEM Mojave tires? View Quote Yessir 35 x 12.5 |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Level or lift? Sorry if you already said it and I missed it earlier. View Quote No it is all original suspension. Nothing added or changed. |
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Originally Posted By LoudLyle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493363/IMG_6015_jpeg-3230845.JPG Here it is with the hard top View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LoudLyle: Originally Posted By macman37: *hnnnngh* that’s my jam. I have the hard top tho. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493363/IMG_6015_jpeg-3230845.JPG Here it is with the hard top 😍 Awesome. I will do 35s when the tires need replacing, and one day when I’m burdened with extra cash I will replace the bumpers and add a winch. Every once in a while I reach down and just push the aux buttons one at a time. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Originally Posted By CSeaBass: someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. View Quote Why would any functional human pay anything close to MSRP? For $100 you can buy or lease (just about*) any eligible new Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram, FIAT and Alfa Romeo Brand vehicles for 1% less than dealer invoice. Tread Lightly $100 Membership *The limited edition hellcat/wildcat Jeeps and such are exempt. |
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Celebrating the remains of the Second Amendment one Fine Firearm at a Time. It was much better here before. Not my America.
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Why did you move the camera?
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Originally Posted By omar: The upper horizontal platform bar on the bed rack was blocking the camera positioned on the rear window. I relocated it about 2" lower and it provides enough coverage if there's no obstruction in the bed. I guess I should adjust the DTG on my camera, since I just took this picture a few minutes ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/621/E30DDF0A-382F-45C5-8EAB-1D454F7AD8C8_1_2-3231970.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/621/6F5A27A6-AD5F-4742-9D4C-AFC17638BB54_1_2-3231971.jpg View Quote Thanks. I’m a dope, I completely missed “rear facing dash cam” and thought you were talking about the backup camera in the tailgate My mistake. |
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Ahh Jeep.
14$ interiors but MuH FloOr DraInS gladiator makes ridgeline guys look straight True offroad jeeps are cool like wranglers and older XJ/willeys imagine paying 80k$ + for a "truck" that does 0-60 in 8 seconds, can only tow 4,000 pounds only gets 17 MPG but only has 250 LB ft of torque. Hard Pass Chief EDIT TO ADD: RUBBER DUCKS |
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Originally Posted By Carpangler: Ahh Jeep. 14$ interiors but MuH FloOr DraInS gladiator makes ridgeline guys look straight True offroad jeeps are cool like wranglers and older XJ/willeys imagine paying 80k$ + for a "truck" that does 0-60 in 8 seconds, can only tow 4,000 pounds only gets 17 MPG but only has 250 LB ft of torque. Hard Pass Chief EDIT TO ADD: RUBBER DUCKS View Quote Holy shit you need to put a warning out before posting something so edgy. Almost cut myself. |
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Originally Posted By Carpangler: Ahh Jeep. 14$ interiors but MuH FloOr DraInS gladiator makes ridgeline guys look straight True offroad jeeps are cool like wranglers and older XJ/willeys imagine paying 80k$ + for a "truck" that does 0-60 in 8 seconds, can only tow 4,000 pounds only gets 17 MPG but only has 250 LB ft of torque. Hard Pass Chief EDIT TO ADD: RUBBER DUCKS View Quote Weird, mine was $45K… Also can tow up to 7,500 pounds as equipped. Memorial Day weekend I got 26MPG on a 160 mile round trip and this last weekend I got 21.5 after putting the big tires on. Your other numbers are also wrong. JL/JT interior isn’t exactly luxury but it’s top of the line compared to the JK. If you’re going to bash, at least get the facts right |
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