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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:51:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it work if someone moved to California, and has some icky guns ? There are 2 ways, first is to fill out paperwork and pay (at the time it was 35$ per firearm) and register the guns Second is covered buy the "Shut your fucking mouth" clause of the second amendment |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Texas it takes longer to fill out the yellow form than to make the purchase. I want that one. *Hands carry license and cash. Fill out yellow form Have a nice day. 10 minutes top. Yellow form? |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:53:54 PM EDT
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Geez OP, it might have been cheaper to move to another state, buy the pistol, then move back.
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:53:58 PM EDT
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I couldn’t handle that shit. Just plain couldn’t.
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:54:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice pistol - and great choice BTW. Sorry you got raped though. I'd contact your representatives and report this obnoxious abuse though. 
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:55:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Move to a free state. I know. Which one is that exactly? G'head...make me a list. I've heard it before, ya' know -- I've been around - I've seen things... in GD  for a few years, so that's not the point of this thread...N.J. ain't no picnic either. I'd deal with the CA hassles in exchange for the nice weather any day. Plus, CA has pre-ban guns/magazine and tons of places to shoot. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:56:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are 2 ways, first is to fill out paperwork and pay (at the time it was 35$ per firearm) and register the guns Second is covered buy the "Shut your fucking mouth" clause of the second amendment Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How does it work if someone moved to California, and has some icky guns ? There are 2 ways, first is to fill out paperwork and pay (at the time it was 35$ per firearm) and register the guns Second is covered buy the "Shut your fucking mouth" clause of the second amendment It’s a flat fee of $19 regardless of how many firearms it is now. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:59:45 PM EDT
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California Uber Alles...
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:02:51 PM EDT
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Shit, there's a Glock 19X on GB right now sitting at $2,000 (25 bids placed) before tax, DROS, or FSC and the auction still has four days on it. Why? CA transferable.
This fucking state. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:02:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Geez OP, it might have been cheaper to move to another state, buy the pistol, then move back. it crossed my mind. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:03:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I couldn't handle that shit. Just plain couldn't. it didn't help my blood pressure, I can tell you. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, there's a Glock 19X on GB right now sitting at $2,000 (25 bids placed) before tax, DROS, or FSC and the auction still has four days on it. Why? CA transferable. This fucking state. That is fucking ridiculous 
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: N.J. ain't no picnic either. I'd deal with the CA hassles in exchange for the nice weather any day. Plus, CA has pre-ban guns/magazine and tons of places to shoot. but you've got the Jersey Devil ...seems fair. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:05:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, there's a Glock 19X on GB right now sitting at $2,000 (25 bids placed) before tax, DROS, or FSC and the auction still has four days on it. Why? CA transferable. This fucking state. I think only Gen 1 are gtg in California, may be wrong. So a Gen 1 new would be 500 bucks. same gun not Gen 1 is exotic. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think only Gen 1 are gtg in California, may be wrong. So a Gen 1 new would be 500 bucks new. same gun not Gen 1 is exotic. Actually only Gen3 is GTG for new purchase by non-LEO. Gen 1 and 2 are not on the list, nor is 4, 5, X, etc. Gen 1 and 2 are also not being made, so there aren't any new purchases, anyway. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually only Gen3 is GTG for new purchase by non-LEO. Gen 1 and 2 are not on the list, nor is 4, 5, X, etc. Thanks I knew it had something to do with that |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:08:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think only Gen 1 are gtg in California, may be wrong. So a Gen 1 new would be 500 bucks. same gun not Gen 1 is exotic. pretty sure it's good corrected above...thanks |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:08:00 PM EDT
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Am I understanding correctly if I a Texas resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn’t legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns?
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:08:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:09:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I understanding correctly if I a resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn’t legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns? Face-to-face or consignment only. Seller and buyer have to physically show up at a dealer at the same time, or the seller has to consign with the dealer and then the registration can only be performed at the dealer where it was consigned. Didn't see your state. You as a TX resident can't sell directly to a CA resident, you could only send it to a dealer. The dealer can't treat it as a private party transfer (PPT) because those are only allowed between CA residents. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I understanding correctly if I a Texas resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn't legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns? off roster pistols have to be transferred in PPT (face to face) transactions through an FFL...with both parties present and with proper documentation. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Texas it takes longer to fill out the yellow form than to make the purchase. I want that one. *Hands carry license and cash. Fill out yellow form Have a nice day. 10 minutes top. I've filled out so many of these that the form takes about 45 seconds to fill out. I spend more time shooting the shit with the guys behind the counter than anything. Oh and I'm glad you got a check for being a "Patriot", those of us who make too much on our IRS returns to receive such funds I guess aren't patriotic enough
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it work if someone moved to California, and has some icky guns ? Depends on the kind of icky involved. For the average person, a firearm that meets the Ca definitions of assault weapons can't be legally imported. Handguns that aren't "assault weapons" but just aren't on the "Roster" can be brought in by a new resident. And since they are now legally in the state, can be transferred with no problems (beyond the regular PITA). Note that there is a requirement to "report" ownership of firearms you bring into the state. While they pretend this is not registration, they lie. Ramifications? Not sure if limited to failing to report. A handgun not recorded by the state can't be put on a CCW. Likewise, (This quote is in context of new resident owner reporting, not a general statement about all of California, all the time, etc.) "There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you must submit a Firearm Ownership Report (FOR) Application (BOF 4542A), pdf to the California Department of Justice (the Department) for any firearm you are seeking return where no other record is on file with the Department identifying you as the most recent owner/possessor. Having a FOR application on file with the Department will authorize the return of your firearm in the event it is subsequently lost or stolen." There are also some ramifications when it comes to concealed carry, and some vehicle carry situations if not properly containered/locked, etc. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:11:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: off roster pistols have to be transferred in PPT (face to face) transactions through an FFL...with both parties present and with proper documentation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Am I understanding correctly if I a Texas resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn't legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns? off roster pistols have to be transferred in PPT (face to face) transactions through an FFL...with both parties present and with proper documentation. Baby steps by fucking gun grabbers
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:11:48 PM EDT
[#25]
So glad I moved.
Background checks on ammo now too... ETA: You need to make friends with a cop n get what you want. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:11:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've filled out so many of these that the form takes about 45 seconds to fill out. I spend more time shooting the shit with the guys behind the counter than anything. Oh and I'm glad you got a check for being a "Patriot", those of us who make too much on our IRS returns to receive such funds I guess aren't patriotic enough 
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:12:05 PM EDT
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I bought a non-Legion 229 with Short Reset Trigger kit and E2 grips second hand for $550 in Feb.
Sorry about CA OP. My state is probably not that far behind VA. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:13:28 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So glad I moved. Background checks on ammo now too... ETA: You need to make friends with a cop n get what you want. yeah, well, we're working on that |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:15:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yellow form? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In Texas it takes longer to fill out the yellow form than to make the purchase. I want that one. *Hands carry license and cash. Fill out yellow form Have a nice day. 10 minutes top. Yellow form? The 4473 was once yellow.. 
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:15:37 PM EDT
[#30]
Move to a free state
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:17:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Nice pistol. Sorry you had to pay so dearly for it.
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:18:25 PM EDT
[#32]
What happens if your 5 year “safety certificate” expires?
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:18:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Move to a free state You're gonna fit in just fine, noob
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 4473 was once yellow.. https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BATF_Form_4473a.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In Texas it takes longer to fill out the yellow form than to make the purchase. I want that one. *Hands carry license and cash. Fill out yellow form Have a nice day. 10 minutes top. Yellow form? The 4473 was once yellow.. https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BATF_Form_4473a.png I know, was just wondering if you’ve purchased a gun in the last 15 years or so
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens if your 5 year “safety certificate” expires? You have to renew before you can acquire another firearm. If you're not buying, it has no effect. ETA: for a fun history lesson, it started as the Basic Firearms Safety Certificate, you paid once, took one test, and it was good forever. That doesn't raise very much money, does it? So then it became the Handgun Safety Certificate, and that was good for 5 years, then you needed to renew, but it was only for Handgun purchases. A couple years back it became the Firearms Safety Certificate, and applies for all firearms purchases, same 5 year expiration. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:20:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yeah, well, we're working on that On moving or brown nosing the kings men? ETA: You should sell all your guns at super inflated retard/California prices... then move to a more free state and buy a machine gun. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:20:42 PM EDT
[#37]
good score OP
on a different note when I see sights on guns like these I always think of the colt python threads where people try to argue modern cnc is just as good as hand fitting. My VP9 sights sit with a space on them also.  Attached FileCool gun, though. People should always be mindful CA is the beta test for the rest of the states. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:22:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens if your 5 year “safety certificate” expires? Have to pay and do it again before you buy again, has no effect on what you already own |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:26:10 PM EDT
[#39]
Sig. lol. I wouldn't pay $2000.00 for it if it came with lips
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Nice pistol OP that pistol retails for around $1400 where can you buy it nib for $839?
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:35:09 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're gonna fit in just fine, noob Been a lurker for many years |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:40:37 PM EDT
[#42]
At least the pistol is worth what OP paid (in CA). I doubt CA will un-commie any time soon and start supporting the Bill of Rights again.
Everything is relative. I love CA, most beautiful State imho. I learned to shoot in CA, where my dad still lives. I spent all my summers there with him in L.A. When I was a kid, he would take me to the Beverly Hills Gun Club (was not actually in BH) and we would rent different guns and shoot. My dad hated shooting and doesn't like guns but did it for me. I bought him a revolver a few years later just so he would have something. He was glad for it during the Rodney King riots... The first gun I bought was in NJ in the 80's. What a fucking hassle that was. Basically like NFA, having to get the Chief of police of my Town to sign off on it... |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:41:37 PM EDT
[#43]
DON'T FEED THE BEAST! STARVE IT!
that is all.
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:44:48 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens if your 5 year "safety certificate" expires? Mine did 2 months ago. That's why I had to pay to take it again before we could start the rest of the transacftion. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:45:18 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Move to a free state what was your old name? |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:47:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Been a lurker for many years Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're gonna fit in just fine, noob Been a lurker for many years Previous SN? |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:47:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On moving or brown nosing the kings men? ETA: You should sell all your guns at super inflated retard/California prices... then move to a more free state and buy a machine gun. did you sleep underground last week? California successfully fought off the ammo background check law....then it freedom got squashed again a day later. It's under review....but we still expect a much drawn out win. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:48:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: good score OP on a different note when I see sights on guns like these I always think of the colt python threads where people try to argue modern cnc is just as good as hand fitting. My VP9 sights sit with a space on them also. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123940/sights_1_-_Copy_JPG-1392819.JPG Cool gun, though. People should always be mindful CA is the beta test for the rest of the states. thought that was for cocking? |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:48:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig. lol. I wouldn't pay $2000.00 for it if it came with lips Please, I have more expensive mastershop sigs. No poors allowed. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:49:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Nice weapon, fuck California politics...
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