[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Learned from First 48 (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/1/2011 1:23:44 AM EDT
If you're in any of these careers, you're going to die:
in addition, riding a bike in the Pork 'n' Beans is a good way to die. Or Overtown. Or Miami in general. You can get killed over $50, or 8 pounds of dope, or mean mugging someone. |
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If you're in any of these careers, you're going to die:
When I was a National Guard recruiter, we used to have to go do presentations to the kids at the local Job Corps center. You could ask the rhetorical question "how many of you really think you've got a shot at being a professional athlete?" and every fucking hand in the room would go up. It was unreal. Most of them never even played sports in high school. |
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When I was a National Guard recruiter, we used to have to go do presentations to the kids at the local Job Corps center. You could ask the rhetorical question "how many of you really think you've got a shot at being a professional athlete?" and every fucking hand in the room would go up. It was unreal. Most of them never even played sports in high school. If people knew how much work Michael Jordan put into being Michael Jordan, they'd go crazy. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I've learned from that show that if you shut the fuck up, you can get away with murder quite often. On the other side of that, I've seen that the way you solve murders is to sit down and ask, "why did you do it?" And eat pizza. That show makes me never want to be detective.
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Quoted: Quoted:That show makes me never want to be detective. I have a lot of respect for them. They seem to put as much effort into solving a homeless dude's murder as someone in a nice house. Oh no doubt. They have a crazy hard job that I never fully understood until I watched this show and actually got to see a little of what detectives really go through. I just like going home and knowing that as long as no one gets lost or a major incident I am home until the next day when I report. Being woken up at 0330 to go look at a dead body would get old fast in my book. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:That show makes me never want to be detective. I have a lot of respect for them. They seem to put as much effort into solving a homeless dude's murder as someone in a nice house. Oh no doubt. They have a crazy hard job that I never fully understood until I watched this show and actually got to see a little of what detectives really go through. I just like going home and knowing that as long as no one gets lost or a major incident I am home until the next day when I report. Being woken up at 0330 to go look at a dead body would get old fast in my book. My bro got called out four different times for four different cases over the past weekend. Fuck that. |
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My bro got called out four different times for four different cases over the past weekend. Fuck that. I can see that getting old, quick. On the other hand, something drives them. It's like they take each killing personally and will work themselves to death to solve each one. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:That show makes me never want to be detective. I have a lot of respect for them. They seem to put as much effort into solving a homeless dude's murder as someone in a nice house. Oh no doubt. They have a crazy hard job that I never fully understood until I watched this show and actually got to see a little of what detectives really go through. I just like going home and knowing that as long as no one gets lost or a major incident I am home until the next day when I report. Being woken up at 0330 to go look at a dead body would get old fast in my book. My bro got called out four different times for four different cases over the past weekend. Fuck that. F-That! My point exactly!
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I love that show and sadly I've met a few that hate it because "it's too real." Well no shit, it is "reality TV." That said if most of the bad guys would STFU the police and DAs office would have a much harder time figuring out whodunnit and or building a good case against anyone. Drugs and or woman result in 80% of the crimes shown. The other 20% is generic street thuggery or domestic issues. |
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I've learned from that show that if you shut the fuck up, you can get away with murder quite often. +10000000000000000000000000000 Lawyer up = charges reduced or dropped. Still these dipshit think they can go in and talk their way out of a murder wrap. Like, "Oh you were with Jarquan last night? Hittin up them bitches from The Iriquois Projects? Awww, well shit, be on your way then! NO need to follow up on this lead!!!" By far my favorite show. DVR every one. Crime 360 is also the shit if you like TF48. |
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I love that show and sadly I've met a few that hate it because "it's too real." Well no shit, it is "reality TV." I ave been watching that show for a couple years and this week I saw the first one that kinda bothered me. I think it was called Touch of Evil. 2 17 year old kids hanging at some mid 30's girls house. Said "she was like a momma to us." Hanging out playing video games with her son. One of them ended up killing her and her 10yr old son with a golf club and a butchers knife cause she wouldn't let him borrow her car. Unreal. |
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The one fat, black, lady, with all the weave, fake nails, and fake contacts, I think she is from Memphis, she is amazing!
She goes in the room and says, "let it out baby, just let it out, this weighing on you, god wants you to tell the truth" and......BAM!!! Kid spits it out, starts crying, confesses to killing three people with a baseball bat, blubbering like a school kid... works every friggin time. I'm always screaming at the TV, shut up, just shut up!! Don't say a word! |
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It is surprising how many people do themselves in by talking. Which is a good thing, but it doesn't speak to their intelligence. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile A lot of people weren't educated about their rights or didn't listen in school. They have no clue about the 5th Amendment. I keep one of the top criminal defense attorney's cards in my wallet. I should just really memorize the number. 
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The one fat, black, lady, with all the weave, fake nails, and fake contacts, I think she is from Memphis, she is amazing! She goes in the room and says, "let it out baby, just let it out, this weighing on you, god wants you to tell the truth" and......BAM!!! Kid spits it out, starts crying, confesses to killing three people with a baseball bat, blubbering like a school kid... works every friggin time. I'm always screaming at the TV, shut up, just shut up!! Don't say a word! Detective Caroline Mason. She was the best. I miss the Memphis shows. Too bad they stopped filming there, something about casting Memphis in a negative light with you know, all them murders. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Things I learned? Don't commit a crime with someone else. The second that person is told "We don't think it was you, but the evidence shows you were involved. Tell us what really happened" they will roll on you. It's the same with dopers. I find it funny how they swear to never roll on the other person but start spilling their guts at the thought of being locked up. Never trust a doper. |
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in addition, riding a bike in the Pork 'n' Beans is a good way to die. Or Overtown. Or Miami in general. You can get killed over $50, or 8 pounds of dope, or mean mugging someone. I don't know which Miami episode you watched, but there was one where two guys walk into a barber shop intent on killing a guy getting his hair cut. He shoots one of his would-be killers and flees. Turns out he was a felon and couldn't possess a handgun. When the detectives eventually put the whole story together, they only charge him with felon-in-possession since the evidence pointed to a justifiable homicide. Real cool detectives.
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What posters said about God or momma at the top, that is a learned skill that is taught to police. You build a rapport with the bad guy, then lean on his weaknesses without him even knowing. People can be materialistic, so you play on that. "You don't want to loose all your stuff do you?" People may be self conscious, "You don't want your name in the paper do you?" Etc, Etc. Any cop with worth his weight can tell whats important to the person in the first hour of an interview. I'm sure they cut a ton from the interviews. You need a good four hours to build rapport before you start working on someone, as I was taught.
But again, being an LEO, my best advice is shut the F up. I would. Or dont kill people. |
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Interesting. I never thought about it from that angle, but it makes sense that they want to talk and get it off their chest. If they have a conscience, I guess.
I just figured they were all dense.
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It is surprising how many people do themselves in by talking. Which is a good thing, but it doesn't speak to their intelligence. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I've had lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc admit to wrong doing. People want to talk. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I learned you can get a guy to admit to the crime by making them think you are on thier side and if they admit to it, they get to go home like nothing happened;
"The truth will set you free" "I can't help you unless you help me" "I've been in this business a long time and I know bad things happen to good people. Tell me what really happened" "Was it self defense?" The last one is always funny. It's like a light goes off in the murderers head where he thinks he can now admit to it, and the detectives will buy that a victim fighting back while being robbed makes stabbing them self defense
One thing I wasn't aware of before watching the show is that a person can be charged with murder if they are in on a robbery even if they aren't the ones who do the kiling and murder was never in the plan, but thier buddy kills the robbery victim. |
| I love how every time someone lawyers up on that show the detectives act like their whole case is blown... "Well Jim, we gotta let this guy go. Too bad, we did have him at the scene covered in the vic's blood screaming 'I killed the bitch!' in front of nine witnesses. Gosh darn it, we'll get the real killer!" |
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2/3 of the cases are "dope slinger A kills dope slinger B over (insert stupid petty reason here)"
The ones that get me are the ones where innocent victims get whacked for nothing. The most disturbing one I saw was one where several actual hard core, no posing allowed gangsters shot the shit out of a house in the middle of the night with "choppers" (AKs), killing a little girl, little more than a baby. Hardened, veteran cops were walking out of her bedroom shaken, with tears in their eyes. "half her face is gone". Turns out her uncle was a dope slinging scumbag who got into it with the wrong people. |
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It is surprising how many people do themselves in by talking. Which is a good thing, but it doesn't speak to their intelligence. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah, reminds me of that scene in "The Town" where Afleck's crew has been hauled in to shake them up. The guy walks into the room Renner is in, Renner says, "lawyer", and the guy turns and walks out. |