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Evidently Cleetus flew his new helo up to Ashville to try and help out. Sam's family is still in the area.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DAet0yHM0ZO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== https://www.instagram.com/p/DAe10JfgHBn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Evidently Cleetus flew his new helo up to Ashville to try and help out. Sam's family is still in the area. https://www.instagram.com/p/DAet0yHM0ZO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== https://www.instagram.com/p/DAe10JfgHBn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link View Quote The guys a goofball but he takes flying seriously, I read Greg Biffle has his help up there helping too |
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Posting for awareness. From solid source on Twitter.
A STATEMENT ON THE FLOODING SITUATION IN WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA & SURROUNDING AREA: I finally had to log off and get some sleep last night, but I didn't stop thinking about the #Helene damage in western North Carolina (WNC), where I grew up. I have some thoughts on this historic storm this morning. I believe that Helene has created a unique logistics and infrastructure nightmare there which will last weeks and it will take months to recover. Here's why: The Mountains have Turned into "Islands" Western North Carolina, WNC for short, (and also bordering portions of NW SC & eastern TN) is effectively a series of tiny islands at this point, and I don't mean because of the flooding, but from a disaster perspective. After a major hurricane at the coast, relief and utility services can gradually work their way to the coast as roads open, but the barrier islands are cut off for days or weeks. The same will be true for parts of WNC. NCDOT says 400 roads are closed. Every road/bridge that got washed out also took out water, gas and communications lines with it. This will take weeks to fix and will likely come with great human suffering the likes of which the area has never seen. Relief organizations won't be able to get into the areas where help is most needed due to so many roads being washed out. The best bet for the next week will be helicopters and satellite internet, if people have the hardware. Even flying people/supplies into small airports won't be effective because so many roads are closed. Rest of text in spoiler — READ IT: Click To View Spoiler Communications Breakdown: It took 24 hours for me to get back in contact with my Mom in Wilkes County. She lost power Thursday morning when Helene was more than 750 miles away. Reed also was unable to get in contact with his Mom as of last night. Here's why. Cell tower providers are only required federally to have 8 hours of backup. In hurricane-prone near-shore areas, they optionally have 24-72 hours backup in some cases. Diesel or Natural Gas generators can run indefinitely. I bet that Cell towers in WNC don't have that additional backup that they do in coastal areas. Diesel generators, the usual way of powering cell phone towers, cannot be reached by road now, as more than 400 roads are closed and I would guess many many last-mile roads to cell towers are in wooded areas where many trees have fallen or even dirt roads that may have washed out. I would guess the majority of cell phone towers are down now in WNC. At least 50%, maybe 75%. Natural gas generators, if they exist in WNC, may have had their lines cut by road washouts. Fiber lines have been cut. This could extend the communications outage for a week or longer, I would estimate. Maybe due to smaller population, it won't be the worst Cell outage on record but by area, it could be. My mom also had a Land Line, which not many people still do. A tree knocked that line down Friday morning and now she only has her cell phone, but no way to charge it. This is playing out for thousands of residents in WNC. Residents In the Dark: Almost every county in western NC & SC is 60-100% dark, still this morning. Higher winds than people expected, through trees that were full with big leaves and already unstable in wet ground from a wet summer, took down 4.9 million customers concurrently, the most since Hurricane Irma in 2017 3.6m are still without power this morning. Western NC is mountainous and densely vegetated, making repairs tricky on a good day. Crews will not be able to get to many areas because roads have been washed out. Even as roads are repaired, many people have lines down on their property. At my Mom's house in Wilkes County, the damage is reminiscent of Hurricane Hugo in 1989, even though the winds were less than Hugo in that area (likely because of the wet summer). In 1989 during Hugo, we were without power for at least a week, phone for two weeks, and I think it will be that long for many residents once again. Flooding Beyond Extreme: The gauge records broken in WNC are incredible. In some cases the equipment has been washed away but at those gauges that survived, the numbers are staggering and many records have been set. Most major floods we've covered in the last 10-20 years have had a gauge or two overtop their records by a few inches. The French Broad River at Fletcher, south of Asheville, broke its high water mark by 10.2 feet. The Swannanoa River at Biltmore, by more than 6 feet. The News is NOT Getting out: A lot of the media sent their folks to Florida, and they are still there, covering that important story, but leaving this important story on the back burner, and it's a story that's just beginning. News is not getting out now in the way it normally would because so many people are without power or cell service. Entire towns and communities have been destroyed, and they are also isolated from a travel and infrastructure perspective. The death toll is likely to rise, perhaps greatly in WNC. |
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Originally Posted By CashOnlyLargeBills: Let me know when Duke panics with Lake Norman flooding the nuke plant. View Quote It's over when it changed from Duke power to Duke energy. Apparently Duke power was just too racist. Yet we still have all the Duke Universitys and stuff. You don't want to be a powerful Duke in North Carolina it just sounds racist. |
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Originally Posted By KA3B: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47594/Screenshot__1144_-3334089.png The dam has two drain valves, one is a 72 inch drain valve and one is a 60 inch jet flow valve. Both are used to drain the lake down for normal use and is also an emergency preparedness feature in the event the Lake needed to be lowered during a significant storm. The two power turbines have two 6.5 foot inlet penstocks with inlet at 15 feet above the crest elevation. There are three large gated spillways and one smaller radial trash spillway. View Quote I think where they are posting that this dam "Failed" they mean it no longer has the ability to control the flow of water downstream. Whatever peaks hit upstream from it will also hit downstream from it since it's full. The bright side is that is the best sort of dam to have water over-top it if you have to have a dam design to with stand such an event. A concrete gravity arch dam is a very solid structure, like Hoover Dam Over topping can cause erosion of concrete but that can be repaired as it's not going to be a continual issue. If it does continue to flow over for months there might be cavitation damage on the face of the spillways and edges where water has broken through due to lack of control gates. It should come through just fine. Downstream is going to get all the suck though, the dam isn't going to be any sort of buffer for a storm surge at all. |
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Insurance rates in the southeast are going to get turned up to 11 next year.
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: The stars were spectacular last night while the power was out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By mc556: Originally Posted By Pogo55: Has any looting started yet? Nothing but very minor stuff like grab and go at the grocery store since cash only. People being assholes at the 2-3 gas stations that have been running. It’s hard to believe but here is a pic from my front porch. All this devastation is right on the other side of those mountains. . No way to access most of it. We’ve been told to expect at a min of a week without power most likely longer . It’s so quiet I can’t hear any generators even . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/87899/IMG_0144_jpeg-3334918.JPG The stars were spectacular last night while the power was out. It was cloudy last night and same tonight. I really wanted to see them without all the light pollution. I wonder if there are any ISS photos showing the night lights missing. |
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"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
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That’s awesome that he’s doing it. I enjoy watching his videos and you can see the genuine fun they have making it
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Finally just heard from my friend that lives up near Mt Mitchell. Her dog and her are stranded, one way in and out of her area and the road is washed out. She said she is fine and there isn't any major emergency situation with anyone she is aware of.
Thank the lord. |
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Originally Posted By molar: Most of these folks affected likely did not have flood insurance and homeowners isn’t going to pay, so maybe not. It’s a sad situation. View Quote Maybe not? Insurance increases fall right in line with death and taxes, and I think NC just approved a large rate increase (although less than the insurance companies wanted). That said this level of damage in this area is essentially unprecedented, whereas nearer the cost it's a twice a decade or so affair... |
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Finally got a text from my co-worker in Asheville, obviously its not good up there.
Saw an update that I26 from Asheville south is clear and open. That's very good news, at least Asheville isn't an island anymore. |
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Originally Posted By jafrush: Finally got a text from my co-worker in Asheville, obviously its not good up there. Saw an update that I26 from Asheville south is clear and open. That's very good news, at least Asheville isn't an island anymore. View Quote 26 North is taken out?? With 40 out, if so that's a bitch. A lotta US highways around there aren't big truck friendly. |
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My wife said that a group from the Pamlico sound area went to the Chimney rock
area with some boats and rescued a little over 100 people. They went as far as they could in the boats and then swam in. They were knowledgeable as that is what they did at the coast during the hurricanes there. |
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“If someone breaks unto your house you are more than welcome to shoot them in Santa Rosa County. We prefer that you do, actually.” Sheriff Johnson
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It's going to be even worse when the waters recede.
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