Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:


Counterpoint: The Colorado still uses the the troubled GM 8 speed transmission, the I4T has cylinder deactivation for some reason, it's direct injection only, it has an interesting but complicated active cooling system, and... it's a GM product. lol

I'd take a Colorado or Canyon as a company car or as a lease, but to buy? I'll pay an extra 10% or whatever for a Toyota.

ETA: the best affordable alternative to the Tacoma is the same as it always was...

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/nissan/frontier/2022/oem/2022_nissan_frontier_crew-cab-pickup_pro-4x_fq_oem_1_1280.jpg

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:



I thought it was a different version of the 8 speed?

Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:


Counterpoint: The Colorado still uses the the troubled GM 8 speed transmission, the I4T has cylinder deactivation for some reason, it's direct injection only, it has an interesting but complicated active cooling system, and... it's a GM product. lol

I'd take a Colorado or Canyon as a company car or as a lease, but to buy? I'll pay an extra 10% or whatever for a Toyota.

ETA: the best affordable alternative to the Tacoma is the same as it always was...

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/nissan/frontier/2022/oem/2022_nissan_frontier_crew-cab-pickup_pro-4x_fq_oem_1_1280.jpg

Originally Posted By voodochild:
What's the MPG?

Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:
Word on the street is GST is shipping and Tacos are hitting dealer lots today and tomorrow.  In Minecraft.

Originally Posted By TXBO:

Is every dealer in Minecraft getting just one?

Please shoot me a PM if somebody is getting more than one.

Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

I do not know the answer.

Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

Tacos shipping out.  That is all.

Originally Posted By TXBO:

Thanks

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:



Classic Toyota in Galveston already got 2 earlier this week that they posted on facebook.  I think the one in College Station got a few in too.

Originally Posted By TXBO:

A lot of dealers post units that are incoming but not on the lot yet.  Classic is one of the lower volume stores in Houston.  I'd be really pissed if they already have two units.

Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:
I'd speculate that most if not all of the trucks currently shipping already have buyers.

Question is, does anyone here already have their name on one?

I drove a TRD offroad today. Check out the pics next to my 2022 TRD Offroad (TRD 2" lift FYI). This was a premium package ($53K) but dealer is not selling it right now - they want to use it as a demo for customers. They did say I could put a deposit on it and pick it up in 2 weeks - NO THANKS!

I am waiting it out until the Landcruiser arrives - and possibly new generation 4runner (and interest rates to go down)

Pros- Interior is super nice. It's comfortable, LOVE the center console setup, and the giant screen is sweet. It's not in the way of the windshield whatsoever. Also - no start stop. At least it didn't do it during my test drive - so I don't think it has it.

Cons- Engine is quick, but it "feels" like a 4cyl. Some of you will understand what I am saying. The truck also seems a little smaller - inside. Backseat might have less leg room? Sure seems like it. I HATE the power tailgate. I couldn't even figure it out to be honest. Doesn't close automatically, and started opening when I pushed it to close.

Overall, nice truck. Price isn't nice. But the interior upgrades are absolutely huge. Driving my 2022 afterwards felt like traveling back in time.

QUICK UPDATE- After a few hours of post-driving it, I can say, the interior is still in my head. I cannot express just how much more of an upgrade it is.

So…Just got back from driving an SR5 with the upgrade package. The TLDR version is…Its OK. Not great, not terrible.

Let me start by saying I have never owed a Tacoma. I have driven many gen 2 and 3 trucks and owned a 2022 Tundra Limited. I always hated the seating position and clunky shifting not to mention that I though it was underpowered and the transmission shifting sucked.

Well I felt good sitting in it. Not as good as the Tundra but a lot better that the 3rd gen. For refence I am 5’11’’ and 240 pounds….so not a small guy. My inseam is between 29-30’’ so I have somewhat shorter legs. I had no problem adjusting the driver seat to my seating position and then sitting in the back without my knees touching the seat. However, the seating position in the rear seems like it would suck on a long drive for anyone and that is coming from me who owns a Wrangler JLU. I do think my rear Jeep seats are better. One complaint about the driver seating position I have is actually around the tilt of the steering wheel. It needs to go higher! When getting out of the truck my leg will rub against the wheel at its highest position.

As far as the powertrain goes….A lot of you are going to hate it. The truck I drove had 31 miles on it and the transmission was still learning. It does shift a lot better than the 3rd gen and is quick to shift gears. A big improvement, but there will be no doubt that you are driving a 4 banger. And yes, it does have turbo spool/lag! I found the acceleration to be ok…it is not a race car after all. You will have no problem getting on the highway or pulling out in front of traffic but again it has some spool time. It should be a fine engine in a midsize truck. I will say that the 2023 Canyon AT4s that I have test driven felt better in the acceleration and spool areas.

Now ride quality felt wonderful. Real smooth and solid. Engine noise is on par with any truck without an exhaust system. Can’t comment about HVAC or heated seats as the weather here is perfect for having the windows down some. The screen felt small. Remember I had a Tundra so it is small to me. Larger than the 7” in my jeep for sure….but nothing special. The diver display was good but I did not play with the menus. The size parts have the engine temp and gas gauges. The are pretty huge. I am sure the full size display will be a lot nicer and better. Did not see a manual in the glove box but there was a hitch pin in there which I found odd. Spray on bed liner was done well even though it is not needed.

If I were to get a new Tacoma it would be a Sport Premium or a Limited. I want all the bells and whistles. However now that I have driven one I am on the fence about it. Before the test drive I was 70% sure that I was going to get a Tacoma in a few months but after the test drive it is down to 50/50 between it and the AT4. I hate that the AT4 does not have a power sliding rear window, digital rearview mirror, and home link. All things the Tacoma has. But the Tacoma does not have the auto 4WD like the AT4 as well as does not seem as powerful(2.4L vs 2.7L). I won’t really get much in to pricing except that the AT4 and Tacoma are almost identically priced as I have them configured but I am sure that I would get a better deal when it comes to the AT4. Regardless I will be waiting until the hybrids are out before I pull the trigger on a new tuck. I may even go back to a Tundra. Well that’s all I got!

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:
TLDR....Colorado Trailboss and new Tacoma TRD OR tow 6500 on the Ike.  Even with the Taco having less of a tow rating it did just as good and in some cases better than the Trailboss. Even got better gas milage.  In the end they said Trailboss won since it was $4k cheaper but the only option they really put up for a head to head comparison was an included trailer brake controller which the Taco does offer but they did not get on their Tacoma.  




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zn3vkEGlvQ

Originally Posted By Ayada:
Finally one manual transmission popped up on the search page, a base model SR.

Toyota has managed to completely break their inventory search for Tacoma, and only for the Tacoma. Can't search for a radius bigger than 100miles without it returning no results after a minute, and if you do get results all it does is loop through the first few shown.

Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

Every bed-side TRD sticker I've seen is on crooked.

Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

Every bed-side TRD sticker I've seen is on crooked.

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:



How many are stacking up at GST?  There was a reddit post showing hundred there.

Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhrHoQ-3CD4

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:
TFL already broke their truck.  The 4WD system popped while offroading.  No info yet of the problem but I am sure we will find out in a few days.  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svD7Mx2xius

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:
TFL already broke their truck.  The 4WD system popped while offroading.  No info yet of the problem but I am sure we will find out in a few days.  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svD7Mx2xius

Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy:


39 minutes.

Originally Posted By Alacrity:

Break something? Wheeling (kinda?) It's Thursday

I like Smirnov and Mica - they should drive more and kibitz less tho . Maybe ice cleats next time - LMAO

Agree - didn't appear to be abusive but spinning then abruptly regaining (snow/ice > rock) can shock load. But if the noise was indicative of the actual failure - I didn't see that. Stuff happens - if we start seeing more of this, then concern. The very early Tundra 5.7 had a small number of cams literally snap. Identified and  fixed  - that engines turned out fine (ok cam tower leaks ) but otherwise damn good.

@JaFrush - you'll chuckle. Interested in thoughts

Originally Posted By wpsharpshooter:
My brother is getting ready to buy one of these... I have no reference, but are these going to be unobtainable? Anything specific he needs to make sure to get? He wants the Pro but dont wanna get that deep in one so I think hes settling on the Sport.

Originally Posted By The_Syndicate:



@wpsharpshooter

Send him this link.  Might help him find one.  If he is in mid TN then Beaman and Peppers have been good to work with for me.  


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/131kwPy9x2bwci1NVE0tetG3jG57TxdJE/edit#gid=2122898351

Originally Posted By wpsharpshooter:



Peppers is right here in my town.. I have never personally had good luck with them.. But maybe something has changed.. Are the Pro's even available? bro told me that toyotas site doesnt even give an option to build a pro.