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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Austin has been promoted way over his head. Yeah that stunt for the prostate thingy could only happen in the current year. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:11:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe this as well but what I don't believe is that Putin wants all of Ukraine. IMO if putin only wanted part of Ukraine he would have come to the bargaining table by now. The Russians are paying a hell of a price for the little bit of advancement they are making. He seems like he is in it for the entire country. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:14:52 PM EDT
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This is serious guys. We better keep sending Ukraine money so Putin doesn't win.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:16:15 PM EDT
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So the Diversity Secretary says NATO needs to put more into the war with Russia (ie escalate) or risk being dragged into a war with Russia?
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:16:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what the Ukebros refuse to understand. Russia's military doesn't stand a chance against NATO/US .If these idiots manage to force a war between the two, Russia's only choice is to break out the tactical nukes and in my opinion they absolutely will if their opponents are driving towards the Russian border. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia would be beyond retarded kicking things off with NATO. Their conventional military performed beyond poor against a 3rd string military with some 80's/90's NATO handmedowns. Russia would be fighting a battle where they wouldn't control the land, air, sea, space, or most importantly logistics. I'm all for letting Russia grind themselves to a nub in Ukraine and if we support that okay but I'm not buying the Russian. Boogeyman narrative. They may want to be the boogeyman, but they've proven they're incapable of that, at least when it comes to protecting conventional military power. That's why they will have to turn to nukes That's what the Ukebros refuse to understand. Russia's military doesn't stand a chance against NATO/US .If these idiots manage to force a war between the two, Russia's only choice is to break out the tactical nukes and in my opinion they absolutely will if their opponents are driving towards the Russian border. Yup |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:18:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. Hitting American infrastructure in any meaningful scale would be tantamount to a nuclear attack, and they know that. by whom? These will be mostly anonymous. Who is going to tie these drones to Kremlin? |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:21:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what the Ukebros refuse to understand. Russia's military doesn't stand a chance against NATO/US .If these idiots manage to force a war between the two, Russia's only choice is to break out the tactical nukes and in my opinion they absolutely will if their opponents are driving towards the Russian border. Which is why there will be a bunch of folks that are willing to walk away from NATO if Russia turns the corner to Lithuania. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:35:03 PM EDT
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It's not too late to step away from this madness. God forbid, once a real line is crossed, everyone's gonna cry about why we engaged in such stupid selfish self destruction. And that will only be for a few minutes, until the interwebs goes down, and then they have no one to express their despair to but family if they are lucky.
Ukraine is NOT worth ending the world over. God knows Ukraine would probably not piss on us if we were on fire if the tables were turned. That doesn't mean it's not God awful heartbreaking to see what's going on there. It's been going on in Africa pretty much non-stop for decades now. It's absolutely foolish and selfish to end the world as we know it for everyone on the planet because of what is happening in Ukraine. Let RU have it. Then let the Europeans move forward with defensive measures from there. This notion will be ridiculed, but too many here sadly believe that a nuclear exchange is survivable (there are times when things are not worth surviving - go visit a hospice to see), or they are heads-in-the-sand in denial that it can occur, or they are just jaded and sour and want to die and see everyone go with them. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO if putin only wanted part of Ukraine he would have come to the bargaining table by now. The Russians are paying a hell of a price for the little bit of advancement they are making. He seems like he is in it for the entire country. Not going to happen, the West will have to approach the table first. The Ukrainians and the West are also paying a hell of a price as well. This conflict isn't a cake walk for anyone involved. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:42:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not going to happen, the West will have to approach the table first. The Ukrainians and the West are also paying a hell of a price as well. This conflict isn't a cake walk for anyone involved. I agree its not going to happen, disagree that the west would have to make the first overture for talks. Thats the advantage Putin has of being a dictator, he can do whatever he wants. No. He hasn't achieved whatever his goals are yet. That said, i don't believe that after he is done with Ukraine he is going to zerg rush a NATO country. Unless he is completely insane in which case anything is possible. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:46:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: The news article was just posted today. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin believes a war between NATO and Russia will become inevitable if Ukraine falls and Vladimir Putin is not stopped. NATO could be dragged into a war with Russia if Vladimir Putin's forces are not stopped in Ukraine, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned. Speaking at a Republican-led House Armed Services Committee hearing yesterday (Thursday, February 29), Austin said he believes Putin will not stop if Ukraine falls and Russia wins the war. This would mean NATO will almost certainly be drawn into conflict if Kyiv is defeated by Moscow's forces, he added. Austin told committee members: "We know that if Putin is successful here, he will not stop. He will continue to take more aggressive action in the region." Austin then offered his chilling warning that NATO will almost certainly be dragged into a war with Russia. "If you're a Baltic state, you're really worried about whether or not you're next," he said. "They know Putin, they know what he's capable of ... And quite frankly, if Ukraine falls, I really believe that NATO will be in a fight with Russia." https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/129654/nato-russia-war-lloyd-austin-usa |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:47:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Kinda hard to be dragged into a war that you started.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:49:02 PM EDT
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can't even keep our shit together here and they want to throw other peoples lives away at another fake and gay war
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:49:54 PM EDT
[#14]
Yeah, sure. I'm going to believe a DEI pick.
I hope they are still purging conservatives from the military. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:51:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:53:36 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda hard to be dragged into a war that you started. 
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Posted: 3/1/2024 7:54:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send us more money. This. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:05:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO if putin only wanted part of Ukraine he would have come to the bargaining table by now. The Russians are paying a hell of a price for the little bit of advancement they are making. He seems like he is in it for the entire country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I believe this as well but what I don't believe is that Putin wants all of Ukraine. IMO if putin only wanted part of Ukraine he would have come to the bargaining table by now. The Russians are paying a hell of a price for the little bit of advancement they are making. He seems like he is in it for the entire country. He wants his buffer zone, then he wants to destabilize ex Warsaw Pact countries then move in favorable leadership......then turn his eyes toward new Nato countries to threaten them to leave NATO or else.......then it gets interesting |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:07:37 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah that stunt for the prostate thingy could only happen in the current year. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:13:04 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He wants his buffer zone, then he wants to destabilize ex Warsaw Pact countries then move in favorable leadership......then turn his eyes toward new Nato countries to threaten them to leave NATO or else.......then it gets interesting Threaten new NATO countries how? That's the entire point of NATO, protection against Russia. He would either have to use economic or military power. Russia ain't exactly an economic or military powerhouse. If Putin wants a war, he will get one. The left in this country want a war with Russia in the worst way. If Putin looks at a NATO country cross eyed that may be all the excuse the Biden administration needs. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:27:14 PM EDT
[#21]
Ukraine is winning.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:31:09 PM EDT
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Before it kicks off, there will be massive disruptions of utilities, cellular and internet services…
If they time it all just right, suspending the election could result. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:32:07 PM EDT
[#23]
6 paragraphs of the same bullshit.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:33:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Before it kicks off, there will be massive disruptions of utilities, cellular and internet services… If they time it all just right, suspending the election could result.  |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:36:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The crimes of the tools of the global elite are exposed. They need a catastrophic war to conceal it and avoid prosecution. They sure as HELL can't have a Trump victory and America First policy for 4 years. Somehow, I don't think they will allow it, regardless of the "election" results.... |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:39:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My dad never got the chance to kill commies. I want my chance. They are currently occupying America. Knock yourself out. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:40:59 PM EDT
[#27]
Fuck all of this fucking horseshit! When big brother starts caring about the Constitution again, I'll start conceding the possibility that their opinion/edict matters. Why should I send my sons to die solely to enrich the military industrial complex? These people are fucking evil beyond words.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:44:10 PM EDT
[#28]
When people first started pushing back on the unlimited gravy train of taxpayer dollars being shoveled at Ukraine, a propaganda campaign to drive support for Ukraine aid popped up in my social media feeds.
It was literally titled/headlind "Putin won't stop". What think tank generated "Putin Won't Stop" as the propaganda line? And who did the overall coordination? Because clearly it is coordinated. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:44:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Our government has lied or facilitated our entry into every war that I've seen in my lifetime. This is Europe's problem. They can deal with it.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:46:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia would be beyond retarded kicking things off with NATO. Their conventional military performed beyond poor against a 3rd string military with some 80's/90's NATO handmedowns. Russia would be fighting a battle where they wouldn't control the land, air, sea, space, or most importantly logistics. I'm all for letting Russia grind themselves to a nub in Ukraine and if we support that okay but I'm not buying the Russian. Boogeyman narrative. They may want to be the boogeyman, but they've proven they're incapable of that, at least when it comes to protecting conventional military power. That's why they will have to turn to nukes That's what the Ukebros refuse to understand. Russia's military doesn't stand a chance against NATO/US .If these idiots manage to force a war between the two, Russia's only choice is to break out the tactical nukes and in my opinion they absolutely will if their opponents are driving towards the Russian border. Yup And a fucking Diversity Hire Yes Man who is underdoing potentially cognition effecting health care treatments (Secdef Austin) is the one making the call for a CIC who is even more cognitively challenged and was never better than "aggressively stupid" in intellect to begin with. Don't you love it? |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:47:10 PM EDT
[#31]
What a fool.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:48:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He wants his buffer zone, then he wants to destabilize ex Warsaw Pact countries then move in favorable leadership......then turn his eyes toward new Nato countries to threaten them to leave NATO or else.......then it gets interesting Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe this as well but what I don't believe is that Putin wants all of Ukraine. IMO if putin only wanted part of Ukraine he would have come to the bargaining table by now. The Russians are paying a hell of a price for the little bit of advancement they are making. He seems like he is in it for the entire country. He wants his buffer zone, then he wants to destabilize ex Warsaw Pact countries then move in favorable leadership......then turn his eyes toward new Nato countries to threaten them to leave NATO or else.......then it gets interesting I don't believe that for one minute. Putin will not directly challenge NATO outside of any interference they are putting up in Ukraine. His forces would be ground up in a week and he knows it. That's called assuming a losing position. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:49:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's stopping you? Go voulnteer in Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My dad never got the chance to kill commies. I want my chance. What's stopping you? Go voulnteer in Ukraine. Or go to San Francisco or Portland. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:50:29 PM EDT
[#34]
In all seriousness, if you believe people will do anything to stay in power, why would starting WW3 be off the table?
And that applies to both sides. The USA has been wanting war with Russia for a long time. Sometimes, you get what you want. Better Katy Bar the door. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:50:32 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't he have a hospital to be admitted to? |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:51:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, careful man. That particular political subdivision of the United States now enjoys CoC protection here, just as if it had a membership in good standing. I have the account warning to prove it  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Texas is a large state capable of producing endless deviant conscripts. We would win a war of attrition with them alone. Uh, careful man. That particular political subdivision of the United States now enjoys CoC protection here, just as if it had a membership in good standing. I have the account warning to prove it Did you suggest perhaps they let someone shoot a wild pig? |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:52:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Aha; maybe that’s why Biden imported 10 million military-aged men. To send them to fight his war, with a promise of citizenship when they return.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:52:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Also China invading Taiwan, which would certainly happen in such a scenario. And then Kim Jung Un decides that Best Korea is all of Korea.
And om the China thing, expect more "Trump is a Stooge of Xi" stories to come out. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:52:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My dad never got the chance to kill commies. I want my chance. This thread is about Russia. We're only trying to kill them because they're not communist now. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:53:01 PM EDT
[#40]
That shut keeps getting repeated. That's what they want everybody to believe so they keep saying it.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:55:19 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you suggest perhaps they let someone shoot a wild pig? Lol, no. Someone posted that we needed a gay subforum, I linked to the particular hometown forum for that state and said it was the Arfcom gay subforum
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:59:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Threaten new NATO countries how? That's the entire point of NATO, protection against Russia. He would either have to use economic or military power. Russia ain't exactly an economic or military powerhouse. If Putin wants a war, he will get one. The left in this country want a war with Russia in the worst way. If Putin looks at a NATO country cross eyed that may be all the excuse the Biden administration needs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He wants his buffer zone, then he wants to destabilize ex Warsaw Pact countries then move in favorable leadership......then turn his eyes toward new Nato countries to threaten them to leave NATO or else.......then it gets interesting Threaten new NATO countries how? That's the entire point of NATO, protection against Russia. He would either have to use economic or military power. Russia ain't exactly an economic or military powerhouse. If Putin wants a war, he will get one. The left in this country want a war with Russia in the worst way. If Putin looks at a NATO country cross eyed that may be all the excuse the Biden administration needs. Leave NATO or suffer the consequences........he will destabilize them, or attempt to, to the point that in order not to be attacked they might decide to leave and consider themselves neutral.......this is a Russian, after all. He is gambling that they don't want a war no matter what and will slink away from membership to save themselves........I don't see them leaving NATO so someone will blink first .....Putin is counting on us to do it, but I don't think we will |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:00:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Sounds like a suicide pact to me! Putin is not crazy enough to fuck with NATO and NATO would be insane to start shit with Russia. This is how the world ends.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:01:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe that for one minute. Putin will not directly challenge NATO outside of any interference they are putting up in Ukraine. His forces would be ground up in a week and he knows it. That's called assuming a losing position. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe this as well but what I don't believe is that Putin wants all of Ukraine. IMO if putin only wanted part of Ukraine he would have come to the bargaining table by now. The Russians are paying a hell of a price for the little bit of advancement they are making. He seems like he is in it for the entire country. He wants his buffer zone, then he wants to destabilize ex Warsaw Pact countries then move in favorable leadership......then turn his eyes toward new Nato countries to threaten them to leave NATO or else.......then it gets interesting I don't believe that for one minute. Putin will not directly challenge NATO outside of any interference they are putting up in Ukraine. His forces would be ground up in a week and he knows it. That's called assuming a losing position. You don't have to.......Putin is gambling someone on this side will blink first. He is counting on Biden to be weak and fold...... |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:02:08 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is about Russia. We're only trying to kill them because they're not communist now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My dad never got the chance to kill commies. I want my chance. This thread is about Russia. We're only trying to kill them because they're not communist now. EXACTLY. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:02:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like faded is going to get his wish and get it on. He probably has no kids so could care less for a nuclear holocaust. There are a few people out there that actually want to see the world burn. Or, he's one of these youngsters that have no clue that 1 nuclear warhead can wipe out a large city.  Anyone that thinks this will be a conventional war with Russia is obviously mentally brain dead. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:02:43 PM EDT
[#47]
I'm torn.
A global thermonuclear war would end life as we know it. But, it might just stave off the communist takeover as suddenly daily survival and finding food with take precedent over what gender unicorn is trendy. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:03:52 PM EDT
[#48]
The worst part about this entire thing is that NONE of this shit would have happened if the US hadn't stuck it's dick in Ukrainian politics to turn it over to the West in the first fucking place.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:04:13 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In all seriousness, if you believe people will do anything to stay in power, why would starting WW3 be off the table? And that applies to both sides. The USA has been wanting war with Russia for a long time. Sometimes, you get what you want. Better Katy Bar the door. This. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 9:04:18 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Leave NATO or suffer the consequences........he will destabilize them, or attempt to, to the point that in order not to be attacked they might decide to leave and consider themselves neutral.......this is a Russian, after all. He is gambling that they don't want a war no matter what and will slink away from membership to save themselves........I don't see them leaving NATO so someone will blink first .....Putin is counting on us to do it, but I don't think we will In most countries he has 2 levers, economic and military. Some, with significant ethnic Russian minority populations he can use those to stir trouble. But with an economy about the size of Italy, they don't have the sway of say China. And military, well, you joined an alliance to protect you against us, if you don't leave that alliance we will attack you. Not sure who that's going to work against? In fact, Putins bullshit cost 2 neutral countries now in NATO. But, in a country where fetal alcohol syndrome is the norm, who fucking knows
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