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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:01:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you guys are murderers? Probably a good chunk of men in here, that regrettably let their wife/girlfriend get an abortion. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:04:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you wanted to? "on the advice of counsel..." |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:07:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Many times over. Ever been so pissed at someone that "l wished that fucker was dead/ die of anal cancer etc." Same as physically murdering a person in the eyes of the Lord. Also by breaking even one of the others, stealing for example, pocketed something because "they owe me", or whatever was contributing to the murder of Jesus. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some of you guys are murderers? Yes. Many times over. Ever been so pissed at someone that "l wished that fucker was dead/ die of anal cancer etc." Same as physically murdering a person in the eyes of the Lord. Also by breaking even one of the others, stealing for example, pocketed something because "they owe me", or whatever was contributing to the murder of Jesus. Oh shit. If that's the requirement, I need to change my answer. I guess I've broken all of them many times over! |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:09:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The correct answer is 10, a million times over. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:11:34 PM EDT
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At least 8, and probably 9.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:17:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you guys are murderers? It probably sort of depends on your definition of murder. If you count killing, or helping kill, someone you think was correct at the time, but turned out to be 100% innocent I know a ton of murderers. I think that as years go on after the GWOT that people will dwell on decisions that they made in high stress situations. Doing this years after the fact will make it so that they forget some of the context, or reasonings for their decisions at the time and probably haunt them. One of the shrinks at my unit talked to us about "Moral Injury" and it instantly made me recall some situations that I have been apart of that I don't like to think about. Gotta keep it bottled up until after I retire so the clearance doesn't get messed with though! 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:18:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The correct answer is 10, a million times over. This a million times over |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh shit. If that's the requirement, I need to change my answer. I guess I've broken all of them many times over! Even if you were a saint on earth you will still need Christ to make up the difference, as you still have sinned and no imperfect thing can enter Heaven. Now it's wonderful that you haven't actually killed someone yet, but unless you recognize your weakness and work to prevent your sinful behavior it will happen eventually. There have been several "road rage" incidents in Utah lately where "good" people ended up either dead or in jail because they couldn't control their tempers; this is what Jesus was warning us about. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the whole point of the Atonement: Everyone, regardless of their actions, is sinful to some degree and must center their faith on Jesus Christ in order to be saved. Even if you were a saint on earth you will still need Christ to make up the difference, as you still have sinned and no imperfect thing can enter Heaven. Now it's wonderful that you haven't actually killed someone yet, but unless you recognize your weakness and work to prevent your sinful behavior it will happen eventually. There have been several "road rage" incidents in Utah lately where "good" people ended up either dead or in jail because they couldn't control their tempers; this is what Jesus was warning us about. Very good point re the road rage. Just shows what anyone is capable. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:32:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't accept your mythology. Enjoy your time off the site. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Enjoy your time off the site. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't accept your mythology. Enjoy your time off the site.  He just couldn't keep his petty trolling to himself. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:39:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the whole point of the Atonement: Everyone, regardless of their actions, is sinful to some degree and must center their faith on Jesus Christ in order to be saved. Even if you were a saint on earth you will still need Christ to make up the difference, as you still have sinned and no imperfect thing can enter Heaven. Now it's wonderful that you haven't actually killed someone yet, but unless you recognize your weakness and work to prevent your sinful behavior it will happen eventually. There have been several "road rage" incidents in Utah lately where "good" people ended up either dead or in jail because they couldn't control their tempers; this is what Jesus was warning us about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh shit. If that's the requirement, I need to change my answer. I guess I've broken all of them many times over! Even if you were a saint on earth you will still need Christ to make up the difference, as you still have sinned and no imperfect thing can enter Heaven. Now it's wonderful that you haven't actually killed someone yet, but unless you recognize your weakness and work to prevent your sinful behavior it will happen eventually. There have been several "road rage" incidents in Utah lately where "good" people ended up either dead or in jail because they couldn't control their tempers; this is what Jesus was warning us about. I knew the whole "we were born sinners" stuff, I guess I've just never thought about the Commandments that way. Interesting. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:18:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the whole point of the Atonement: Everyone, regardless of their actions, is sinful to some degree and must center their faith on Jesus Christ in order to be saved. Even if you were a saint on earth you will still need Christ to make up the difference, as you still have sinned and no imperfect thing can enter Heaven. Now it's wonderful that you haven't actually killed someone yet, but unless you recognize your weakness and work to prevent your sinful behavior it will happen eventually. There have been several "road rage" incidents in Utah lately where "good" people ended up either dead or in jail because they couldn't control their tempers; this is what Jesus was warning us about. Perfectly said @Garandm1 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:17:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfectly said @Garandm1 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:17:27 PM EDT
[#15]
I know I broke one two days ago
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:24:11 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't accept your mythology. It is so easy to just pass on this thread if it offends you so much. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't accept your mythology. Which one do you accept out of curiosity? I understand not everybody here believes the same. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:42:01 PM EDT
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Honestly, the only two that I'm actually innocent of are making idols and murder.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:45:46 PM EDT
[#19]
The actual deed,most of them. By what's in your heart ,all of them.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:46:38 PM EDT
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There are 613 Commandments; not 10
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you guys are murderers? I shot a man in Reno. Just to watch him die. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:03:22 AM EDT
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All of them.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:10:06 AM EDT
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All of them. Without Christ, I would be hopeless.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:13:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you guys are murderers? Keep in mind, killing is different than murder. An intruder breaks into your house and is trying to murder you or an innocent person, you kill in defense of your life or an innocent person's life. The intruder is the one trying to commit murder. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:21:39 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No man can follow them. They were meant to make you aware that you are a sinner, and need a Saviour in Jesus Christ. wow, talk about sectarian nonsense |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:23:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It probably sort of depends on your definition of murder. If you count killing, or helping kill, someone you think was correct at the time, but turned out to be 100% innocent I know a ton of murderers. I think that as years go on after the GWOT that people will dwell on decisions that they made in high stress situations. Doing this years after the fact will make it so that they forget some of the context, or reasonings for their decisions at the time and probably haunt them. One of the shrinks at my unit talked to us about "Moral Injury" and it instantly made me recall some situations that I have been apart of that I don't like to think about. Gotta keep it bottled up until after I retire so the clearance doesn't get messed with though! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some of you guys are murderers? It probably sort of depends on your definition of murder. If you count killing, or helping kill, someone you think was correct at the time, but turned out to be 100% innocent I know a ton of murderers. I think that as years go on after the GWOT that people will dwell on decisions that they made in high stress situations. Doing this years after the fact will make it so that they forget some of the context, or reasonings for their decisions at the time and probably haunt them. One of the shrinks at my unit talked to us about "Moral Injury" and it instantly made me recall some situations that I have been apart of that I don't like to think about. Gotta keep it bottled up until after I retire so the clearance doesn't get messed with though! Jesus said murder begins in the heart, so even wanting to kill someone constitutes murder. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:26:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Damn I nailed it
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:28:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:30:53 AM EDT
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I've still got a few blocks to check. But, you know how it is. You get busy, life happens, you forget to worship foreign gods and commit murder.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:36:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:45:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you've broken a commandment in your heart, you've broken a commandment. So yeah, all of them. I dated a catholic girl once and if I could get her to think about sex, I was home free. I tend to believe humans have a sinful nature and overcoming temptation is not the same as committing the sin. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:50:14 AM EDT
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7. Because killing homeless people and prostitutes doesn't really count
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:22:06 AM EDT
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how about the 7 Deadly Sins?
Lust Gluttony Greed Sloth Wrath Envy Pride |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:52:57 AM EDT
[#34]
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:55:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how about the 7 Deadly Sins? Lust Gluttony Greed Sloth Wrath Envy Pride If that was my to-do list, I'd be done. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 3:16:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you've broken a commandment in your heart, you've broken a commandment. So yeah, all of them. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 3:57:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The correct answer is 10, a million times over.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 3:57:46 AM EDT
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I like pressure washers.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 4:19:33 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you've broken a commandment in your heart, you've broken a commandment. So yeah, all of them. Where is that actually written? Did Jesus or Moses actually say it? Seems to set an unreasonably high bar. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 6:11:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No man can follow them. They were meant to make you aware that you are a sinner, and need a Saviour in Jesus Christ. Catch 22 |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 6:15:11 AM EDT
[#41]
Given that I am not a Christian currently, I don't follow the Commandments strictly. Buuuuuut, I try to follow as many of them as I can, as I find it reduces the amount of drama and strife in my life.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 6:23:50 AM EDT
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Most, but that was also as a younger man/child. I’d like to think now I’m less than 5 of them per year. Maybe one day I could get to zero, that would be cool
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Posted: 6/17/2024 10:54:59 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The correct answer is 10. The point of the commandments is to reveal sin. Literally the whole point was to show "good people" how bad they really are and their need for a savior |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 11:49:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where is that actually written? Did Jesus or Moses actually say it? Seems to set an unreasonably high bar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you've broken a commandment in your heart, you've broken a commandment. So yeah, all of them. Where is that actually written? Did Jesus or Moses actually say it? Seems to set an unreasonably high bar. It's derived mostly from the Sermon on the Mount, but there are references to it elsewhere. Jesus spoke a lot about heart-sin, and generally emphasized the importance of a man's thoughts as much as his deeds. You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. Mat. 5:21-22 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. Mat. 5:27-29 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so act as those who are to be judged under the law of liberty. For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. James 2:8-13 It's not an unreasonably high bar; it's an impossibly high bar. That's the entire point. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 11:50:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you guys are murderers? If you have thought of committing a sin, you have committed the sin. If you've wanted to kill somebody then it is the same as doing it. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 12:12:46 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have thought of committing a sin, you have committed the sin. If you've wanted to kill somebody then it is the same as doing it. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:05:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Does it count as Adultery if you didn't know she was married?
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:06:11 PM EDT
[#48]
All of them.
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:11:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't accept your mythology. Why is it that atheists will always tell you about it? They're the CrossFit people of the world. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:15:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Off hand looks like about 8.
Father Sarduchi used to call them the 10 suggestions. |
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