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Posted: 6/15/2024 3:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Successful businesses treat their employees well. That includes paying good CEOs big money. They exist. I work for one. Historically it doesn't work out too well when all the wealth is concentrated to the few. I don't have an answer for it. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 3:36:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh I get it, I've known those people and still do. I just hate the attitude of some that everyone that is struggling right now is because they have "too many toys" or too much avocado toast or whatever. A lot of people have had to make some legitimate tough decisions with things like medical bills, etc and it just sucks. You make too much to get any help, but don't make enough to survive, you already feel beat down and then its a constant barrage of bootstraps and bullshit and snide comments from people that don't know shit about your situation. And its not just here, its out in the "real world" too from people that refuse to admit that people are just at their ends. Honestly, at this point, after the last 18 months I would have already checked out if it weren't for my kids. This inflation is the price we're going to pay for all the votes and socialism Biden bought with all the free money. Trump was not a whole lot better with the purse strings. Everybody knows people are struggling bigly. I see older folks in the grocery store looking grim, they barely have enough in their cart to cover the bottom. But a lot of the mom and pop employers are in the same boat. Hang in there man, I fear it will get worse before it gets better. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 4:01:08 PM EDT
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"At least 1 in 5 workers reported feeling lonely (20%), angry (21%), or sad (22%) every day. More than 40% reported feeling stressed."
I kind of feel like that is reflective of any section of the populace, employed or not. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 4:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh I get it, I've known those people and still do. I just hate the attitude of some that everyone that is struggling right now is because they have "too many toys" or too much avocado toast or whatever. A lot of people have had to make some legitimate tough decisions with things like medical bills, etc and it just sucks. You make too much to get any help, but don't make enough to survive, you already feel beat down and then its a constant barrage of bootstraps and bullshit and snide comments from people that don't know shit about your situation. And its not just here, its out in the "real world" too from people that refuse to admit that people are just at their ends. Honestly, at this point, after the last 18 months I would have already checked out if it weren't for my kids. Lost words on a lot of people in this thread. PM sent too. @TXBBQGuy |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 4:18:09 PM EDT
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Article says the solution is to invest more in management.
 Clown world requires clown solutions. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 4:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This inflation is the price we're going to pay for all the votes and socialism Biden bought with all the free money. Trump was not a whole lot better with the purse strings. Everybody knows people are struggling bigly. I see older folks in the grocery store looking grim, they barely have enough in their cart to cover the bottom. But a lot of the mom and pop employers are in the same boat. Hang in there man, I fear it will get worse before it gets better. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh I get it, I've known those people and still do. I just hate the attitude of some that everyone that is struggling right now is because they have "too many toys" or too much avocado toast or whatever. A lot of people have had to make some legitimate tough decisions with things like medical bills, etc and it just sucks. You make too much to get any help, but don't make enough to survive, you already feel beat down and then its a constant barrage of bootstraps and bullshit and snide comments from people that don't know shit about your situation. And its not just here, its out in the "real world" too from people that refuse to admit that people are just at their ends. Honestly, at this point, after the last 18 months I would have already checked out if it weren't for my kids. This inflation is the price we're going to pay for all the votes and socialism Biden bought with all the free money. Trump was not a whole lot better with the purse strings. Everybody knows people are struggling bigly. I see older folks in the grocery store looking grim, they barely have enough in their cart to cover the bottom. But a lot of the mom and pop employers are in the same boat. Hang in there man, I fear it will get worse before it gets better. Its going to get worse, and the ones here at the bottom are going to eat all the shit that rolls downhill from it. And then people get butthurt and call use commies because Trump fucked us snd we didn't want him, but we're morons or some such nonsense |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 5:01:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really believe everyone has all that or is doing all that, or is this just another broad brush to discount that real people are struggling? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Having more than 1 car and food is now considered luxury living? Also, go walk around your employees parking area when your in between tee times, let me now the ratio of land rovers to camry's that your employees own... In the 50's having one car was normal, two were rare unless both worked which was also rare. 3+ was almost unheard of. Even in the 60s, a teenager's first car was an old beater. Rarely less than 3 years old. My first car cost $100 and another $100 to get it running. How many cars are in a school parking lot that are older than 4 years old? No one had thousands of dollars worth of toys. Going on expensive vacations was rare, an almost once-in-a-lifetime event. We didn't have $1000+ BBQ grills, less a pizza oven from Italy. Homes tended to be half the size of homes these days and we had larger families too. We didn't have a walking closet full of clothes either. A pair of dress shoes and a pair of tennis shoes were all most people could afford. TV, what the hell was that, much less cable? How did people survive back then? We grew about half of what we ate. I never had a steak unless Dad got a deer or two that year. Canned tuna was all you got for seafood unless you had a good day fishing. Saturday was sports day. About 20 of us started playing baseball or football from after breakfast to supper time. No leagues, coaches, refs, fancy equipment, or scoreboards. The plates were made of cardboard. We even played football in the snow. The field was in our backyard or after the farmer harvested his crops. Now you have soccer moms hauling their kids all over the state for a soccer match. Back then sports didn't wag the dog. Y'all have it so good and think you are entitled to more and you can't even pay for it. Wonder why?  Do you really believe everyone has all that or is doing all that, or is this just another broad brush to discount that real people are struggling? GeeeDeee makes all of its points using a broad brush. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 5:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh I get it, I've known those people and still do. I just hate the attitude of some that everyone that is struggling right now is because they have "too many toys" or too much avocado toast or whatever. A lot of people have had to make some legitimate tough decisions with things like medical bills, etc and it just sucks. You make too much to get any help, but don't make enough to survive, you already feel beat down and then its a constant barrage of bootstraps and bullshit and snide comments from people that don't know shit about your situation. And its not just here, its out in the "real world" too from people that refuse to admit that people are just at their ends. Honestly, at this point, after the last 18 months I would have already checked out if it weren't for my kids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Having more than 1 car and food is now considered luxury living? Also, go walk around your employees parking area when your in between tee times, let me now the ratio of land rovers to camry's that your employees own... In the 50's having one car was normal, two were rare unless both worked which was also rare. 3+ was almost unheard of. Even in the 60s, a teenager's first car was an old beater. Rarely less than 3 years old. My first car cost $100 and another $100 to get it running. How many cars are in a school parking lot that are older than 4 years old? No one had thousands of dollars worth of toys. Going on expensive vacations was rare, an almost once-in-a-lifetime event. We didn't have $1000+ BBQ grills, less a pizza oven from Italy. Homes tended to be half the size of homes these days and we had larger families too. We didn't have a walking closet full of clothes either. A pair of dress shoes and a pair of tennis shoes were all most people could afford. TV, what the hell was that, much less cable? How did people survive back then? We grew about half of what we ate. I never had a steak unless Dad got a deer or two that year. Canned tuna was all you got for seafood unless you had a good day fishing. Saturday was sports day. About 20 of us started playing baseball or football from after breakfast to supper time. No leagues, coaches, refs, fancy equipment, or scoreboards. The plates were made of cardboard. We even played football in the snow. The field was in our backyard or after the farmer harvested his crops. Now you have soccer moms hauling their kids all over the state for a soccer match. Back then sports didn't wag the dog. Y'all have it so good and think you are entitled to more and you can't even pay for it. Wonder why? Do you really believe everyone has all that or is doing all that, or is this just another broad brush to discount that real people are struggling? It's pretty shocking to see how much stuff [and plans for cells, TV and such] the average middle class family has. Then add in trips, eating out, sometimes weekly, often daily, $6 coffee's every morning, and it adds up to far more then people can really afford with the higher COL today. But, again, thats not everyone. Yes there are plenty that are, but there's also plenty that don't have any of those things is what I'm saying. Myself personally, I don't have or do any of those things and my family is struggling. Some of it is poor decisions in the past, and I'll own that. But when insurance, groceries, electricity, etc have all increased 50% or more in the last 18 months and then work comes to a screeching halt and finding a new job or even a supplemental job is seemingly impossible, people get tired of hearing just suck it up or you just need to spend less, its already disheartening enough as it is The problem with so many middle class families and financial issues is that they refuse to accept that they are having financial issues and don't want to make changes in their spending habits and lifestyle. Add that into worrying about if anyone they know [that Joneses thing] may find out they are financially strapped and the water they are treading in gets hotter and deeper with every month that goes by as the bills pile up. In 08 and a couple years after that, I was doing turnoff for utilities at solid middle class houses right and left. Expensive rides in the driveways, boats, quads and other toys, you name it, yet, they couldn't even pay their electric and gas bill and it wasn't like miss a month, you don't get shut off until you skipped months and didn't answer the letters or calls. I didn't enjoy it but it was part of my job. You could tell most of these people never had to worry about a utility bill in their life before that time frame. Oh I get it, I've known those people and still do. I just hate the attitude of some that everyone that is struggling right now is because they have "too many toys" or too much avocado toast or whatever. A lot of people have had to make some legitimate tough decisions with things like medical bills, etc and it just sucks. You make too much to get any help, but don't make enough to survive, you already feel beat down and then its a constant barrage of bootstraps and bullshit and snide comments from people that don't know shit about your situation. And its not just here, its out in the "real world" too from people that refuse to admit that people are just at their ends. Honestly, at this point, after the last 18 months I would have already checked out if it weren't for my kids. Checked out? What does that mean? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:10:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, since the ones most likely to be hurt are the entitled ones least likely to work, I'd say its a self-correcting issue. Am I in before the "Since you don't agree with and pander to the weak and whiner, you deserve to be crushed under the wheels of socialism"? The opposite is more likely true. My former employer didn't want to hire enough people and decided they would just increase mandatory OT. All the best people retired or quit. I retired and went to a competitor. So now they're stuck with the worst employees training the new guys and it's a complete shit show. The best people have the best opportunities, why would they stay? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:38:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Checked out? What does that mean? Doing just enough to not get hassled. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:40:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doing just enough to not get hassled. No, the long nap |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:45:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What percent of companies would you say are this way? Historically it doesn't work out too well when all the wealth is concentrated to the few. I don't have an answer for it. Companies pay heavily to attract talented MBA’s and unfortunately make contractual concessions that can seriously hurt the business when they don’t work out. How many CEO’s did GM burn through during the Obama/gubbmint motors fiasco? Do I blame the executives for protecting their interests even if they fail? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:47:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doing just enough to not get hassled. Not gettin’ hassled, not gettin’ hustled… |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They aren't getting screwed. They have more toys, bigger houses, multiple cars, fancier vacations, and more food to eat than ever in history and for all that produce less. Are they happy? No, they form unions so they can be paid more to produce even less. I was paid once to go kick a union shop’s ass into gear to meet a deadline for a live event. At lunch they all bitched about what they didn’t have….the guy that started the bitch fest had just bought a competition bass boat, lol. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 6:58:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its going to get worse, and the ones here at the bottom are going to eat all the shit that rolls downhill from it. And then people get butthurt and call use commies because Trump fucked us snd we didn't want him, but we're morons or some such nonsense How did the guy who tried to bring manufacturing back to the US and put in place protectionist import rules, non-free market rules U might even say, and was fought every step of the way by establishment politicians and press, screw you? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 7:02:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did the guy who tried to bring manufacturing back to the US and put in place protectionist import rules, non-free market rules U might even say, and was fought every step of the way by establishment politicians and press, screw you? How much government spending occurred in 2020? It’s pretty terrible that in terms of government spending, we are starting to see zero difference between the conservatives and liberals. Also weren’t you earlier in this thread talking about how it isn’t the free market that failed, it was the country? But now you’re defending anti-free market policies? Make it make sense. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 7:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed my point. Or, you're making it. Low wage jobs are not intended for raising families. No jobs are social safety nets for low ambition/low skill workers. It's like buying a Cadillac on McD wages and whining you can't make the payments. Well, duh, of course you can't. But, your poor judgement is on you, not your employer. You pay more for things because they're worth more. Think of yourself as a product. (You are). Will you garner bigger money by dressing well or by just rubbing a little dirt on? My point is, your value to an employer is in what you bring to the table, not how many people are sitting at yours. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's a thought: Make yourself more valuable. As an employer, I am paying for skills, experience and reliability. I am not running a social service. If you decided to have a few mouths to feed without a plan do be able to do so, well, not my monkeys, not my problem. All this "living wage" bullshit is just that. Be a better product and someone will pay more for it. A simple concept evidently lost on the way to social justice. Try to support a whole family on $15/hr, or less. I'm sure it's "liveable" enough for you. Go ahead. Try it. Careful!!! You're bordering dangerously close to the edge of too much common sense for GD. On the other hand, if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up space........ |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 8:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did the guy who tried to bring manufacturing back to the US and put in place protectionist import rules, non-free market rules U might even say, and was fought every step of the way by establishment politicians and press, screw you? You know how inflation works? And no I don't mean the plainly ignorant boomer economics that thinks inflation is caused by raising wages, I mean how it actually works... |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 8:51:54 PM EDT
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Back in my day, Low wage jobs were for teenagers and the retired. It was never meant to be
a career or to support someone. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 8:53:59 PM EDT
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back in the late '70's I was working for a place getting paid salary, based on 47 1/2 hrs/wk. Just me and one other guy doing the same job. we always worked a couple of hrs more/wk as it was.
first time things got slow there wasn't enough work to keep us working 47 1/2, we were working a little less than 40, or about 25% less hrs. boss calls us in his office. Says "sorry guys but due to lack of work I gotta cut your wages 25%." "But don't feel bad I'm also cutting my wages 25%." thing is at the time we were making like $500/wk, the boss was paying himself $2000/week. He could of just cut his pay another 12 1/2% and not even cut our pay. Somehow our salary pay never covered the extra hours but when the pendulum swung in our favor, BOOM, our wages get cut. Somehow after that our ambition to work even 47 1/2 died. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 8:57:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop giving them free shit, and they will work This. And I find the “just pay them more” comments especially funny. It has completely turned into class warfare. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:01:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back in my day, Low wage jobs were for teenagers and the retired. It was never meant to be a career or to support someone. You know we are talking about professional jobs like skilled trades and STEM fields right? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. And I find the “just pay them more” comments especially funny. It has completely turned into class warfare. Treat people like shit long enough and that eventually adds up to first blood. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed my point. Or, you're making it. Low wage jobs are not intended for raising families. No jobs are social safety nets for low ambition/low skill workers. It's like buying a Cadillac on McD wages and whining you can't make the payments. Well, duh, of course you can't. But, your poor judgement is on you, not your employer. You pay more for things because they're worth more. Think of yourself as a product. (You are). Will you garner bigger money by dressing well or by just rubbing a little dirt on? My point is, your value to an employer is in what you bring to the table, not how many people are sitting at yours. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's a thought: Make yourself more valuable. As an employer, I am paying for skills, experience and reliability. I am not running a social service. If you decided to have a few mouths to feed without a plan do be able to do so, well, not my monkeys, not my problem. All this "living wage" bullshit is just that. Be a better product and someone will pay more for it. A simple concept evidently lost on the way to social justice. Try to support a whole family on $15/hr, or less. I'm sure it's "liveable" enough for you. Go ahead. Try it. Go ahead try it. I'm sure you can live fine on $15 or on the hour |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:10:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Careful!!! You're bordering dangerously close to the edge of too much common sense for GD. On the other hand, if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up space........ We aren't talking about the kind of jobs he is talking about. He isn't even in the conversation. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the long nap Glad you are sticking around, TX. Good luck and hang in there. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:39:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Successful businesses treat their employees well. That includes paying good CEOs big money. They exist. I work for one. They are a few and far between and You damn well know it |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:43:27 PM EDT
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This came up in my feed from some lefty pot head.
I have no idea if it is accurate or if it is relevant to this thread topic but I'll post it anyway. 
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Part in bold is not 100% accurate. The market is flooded right now with people that want to work, and companies that either don't want to hire, or want to hire skilled employees at pay rates that we made 20 years ago. Someone posted information from a recruiter in another thread recently, for every 1 job they posted, they were averaging something like 700 applications. I talked to a recruiter earlier this week who told me almost the exact same number, and also said that if the job was over $25/hr, that number pretty much doubled. I have been looking for another full time job and/or part time job for a while now because I have been underemployed and not able to make it. I'm somewhere around 90 applications just in the last three weeks, 2 phone interviews that ended up being rejections, 2 canceled interviews, and a bunch of rejected without ever talking to someone. I have two teenagers that want to work, have applied for tons of jobs, the couple of interviews that they have managed to get they have been told "unless you are just some kind of superstar, we're hiring an adult" and lots of jobs that used to be HS age jobs are now 18+ by policy. And I'm not the only one, several guys on this board have been out of work for months with no luck. Several guys I know in "real life" are in the same boat. Groceries, fuel, insurance, light bill, taxes, etc have all nearly doubled in the alst 24 months and these companies want to pay people with degrees or 20 years of experience $19/hr, and wonder why people don't show up. I'm personally noticing fake job posts. They repost the same jobs that could easily be filled at the pay they are offering but have been reposting for a year at least. Fake job posts. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:51:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2024 9:58:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the 50's having one car was normal, two were rare unless both worked which was also rare. 3+ was almost unheard of. Even in the 60s, a teenager's first car was an old beater. Rarely less than 3 years old. My first car cost $100 and another $100 to get it running. How many cars are in a school parking lot that are older than 4 years old? No one had thousands of dollars worth of toys. Going on expensive vacations was rare, an almost once-in-a-lifetime event. We didn't have $1000+ BBQ grills, less a pizza oven from Italy. Homes tended to be half the size of homes these days and we had larger families too. We didn't have a walking closet full of clothes either. A pair of dress shoes and a pair of tennis shoes were all most people could afford. TV, what the hell was that, much less cable? How did people survive back then? We grew about half of what we ate. I never had a steak unless Dad got a deer or two that year. Canned tuna was all you got for seafood unless you had a good day fishing. Saturday was sports day. About 20 of us started playing baseball or football from after breakfast to supper time. No leagues, coaches, refs, fancy equipment, or scoreboards. The plates were made of cardboard. We even played football in the snow. The field was in our backyard or after the farmer harvested his crops. Now you have soccer moms hauling their kids all over the state for a soccer match. Back then sports didn't wag the dog. Y'all have it so good and think you are entitled to more and you can't even pay for it. Wonder why? Damn boomers. Nobody gives a crap what you did back in the 50s and 60s I don’t know if you’ve noticed now or not. It’s not the 50s and 60s and having more than one car is pretty much a requirement since both people work. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad you are sticking around, TX. Good luck and hang in there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, the long nap Glad you are sticking around, TX. Good luck and hang in there. If there was life insurance to cover my wife I wouldn't be |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Entry level job for geologists that just got their degree. It's better than being a tradie in the metal stamping industry. I get paid for a lot of hours where I don't have to work very hard, or at all. I'm basically just waiting, or I'm in a block of time that is usually spent doing paperwork that takes most people over 10 hours, but only takes me 3 because I know how to use Microsoft Word and Excel. Entry level geologist just graduated make a bit more than double what you are saying. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:22:59 PM EDT
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Threads like this show how many closet Communist are in GD.
CEOs make too much. Weeeeeeeeeee My boss expects me to actually work. Weeeeeeeeee As a HS dropout I should get a 6 figure income. Weeeeeeeeeee Fucking disgusting. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:35:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Threads like this show how many closet Communist are in GD. CEOs make too much. Weeeeeeeeeee My boss expects me to actually work. Weeeeeeeeee As a HS dropout I should get a 6 figure income. Weeeeeeeeeee Fucking disgusting. > open thread > skip to last page > shitpost |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't make any sense. I made more than that in 1989 after graduating with a mechanical engineering degree. Entry level geologist just graduated make a bit more than double what you are saying. Depends. There are definitely jobs you can get straight out of college that pay better, and there's other companies that pay better for the same job. I took the first offer that got me out of the metal stamping industry and back to geology. Also yeah wages across most industries have been stagnating since the mid 80s. Not exactly flat, but tracking negativly against inflation consistently for about 40 years. I had a guy at my last job try to guilt trip me because I had a shitty attitude about only getting paid $21/hr for the job I was doing at the level I was doing it. He told me that when he was at the same level of experience I was at, he "only" got paid $15/hr. I asked him what year that was, and he said 1992. 35 years of experience, a company worth around $100M has to plan jobs around his vacations, and adjusted for inflation making less money than he did as a 27 year old tech 2 years out of his apprenticeship. For me, that was what you call a clue (among other things). |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:53:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Threads like this show how many closet Communist are in GD. CEOs make too much. Weeeeeeeeeee My boss expects me to actually work. Weeeeeeeeee As a HS dropout I should get a 6 figure income. Weeeeeeeeeee Fucking disgusting. Fuck all the way the fuck off until you know what you're talking about |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:10:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Threads like this show how many closet Communist are in GD. CEOs make too much. Weeeeeeeeeee My boss expects me to actually work. Weeeeeeeeee As a HS dropout I should get a 6 figure income. Weeeeeeeeeee Fucking disgusting. Funny thing about guys like this. The only thing between them and a bunch of actual communists that want to herd them into a ditch is men like me having enough incentive to stop them. Keep talking like that and see if we are more likely to pop PMAGs than just pop a bag of popcorn in the microwave. The struggle sessions will be live streamed but I'll probably go in person to laugh at some of them. Fuckin squeeze it man, I've got everything invested in the popcorn industrial complex. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try to support a whole family on $15/hr, or less. I'm sure it's "liveable" enough for you. Go ahead. Try it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's a thought: Make yourself more valuable. As an employer, I am paying for skills, experience and reliability. I am not running a social service. If you decided to have a few mouths to feed without a plan do be able to do so, well, not my monkeys, not my problem. All this "living wage" bullshit is just that. Be a better product and someone will pay more for it. A simple concept evidently lost on the way to social justice. Try to support a whole family on $15/hr, or less. I'm sure it's "liveable" enough for you. Go ahead. Try it. Why would someone have a family if they only make "$15/hr, or less"? Bad decisions. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:22:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop giving them free shit, and they will work I don't get free shit. But maybe not compressing the pay scale so that my decade of specialized industry knowledge isn't worth a pissant $6/hr over hiring some know nothing moron off the street would make me want to work harder. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:23:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would someone have a family if they only make "$15/hr, or less"? Bad decisions. A lot of people are deciding to not have a family for exactly this reason. It's causing trends in the birth rates that you probably think is fine, because we can just replace the kids they aren't having with more low IQ shit holers that you can pay even lower wages. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:33:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Threads like this show how many closet Communist are in GD. CEOs make too much. Weeeeeeeeeee My boss expects me to actually work. Weeeeeeeeee As a HS dropout I should get a 6 figure income. Weeeeeeeeeee Fucking disgusting. Communism is when pointing out the middle class is dying. You can point out the egregious actions of corporations without advocating for a government solution to the issues at hand. In fact nobody in this thread has said anything akin to “There should be a law about…” |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:34:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of people are deciding to not have a family for exactly this reason. It's causing trends in the birth rates that you probably think is fine, because we can just replace the kids they aren't having with more low IQ shit holers that you can pay even lower wages. We’re gonna need more third worlders to keep the SS, Medicare, and welfare programs going. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:39:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We're gonna need more third worlders to keep the SS, Medicare, and welfare programs going. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A lot of people are deciding to not have a family for exactly this reason. It's causing trends in the birth rates that you probably think is fine, because we can just replace the kids they aren't having with more low IQ shit holers that you can pay even lower wages. We're gonna need more third worlders to keep the SS, Medicare, and welfare programs going. Making them legal doesn't mean they are going to start paying taxes. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:40:54 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They should throw more pizza parties, maybe give away some more company coffee mugs, that'll cheer them up 
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:46:58 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Making them legal doesn't mean they are going to start paying taxes. I don’t want them here anymore than you do, but birth rates are on the decline which means they gotta bring more people in or tax the rest of us more. Knowing our two political parties, they’ll do both to an extent. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 11:56:11 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck all the way the fuck off until you know what you're talking about Well if you want to feel better about your current situation, at least your not retarded like that guy. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:07:34 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Making them legal doesn't mean they are going to start paying taxes. Pointing out the obvious doesn't mean they aren't coming, because that's not the real reason they are coming in the first place. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:15:50 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This came up in my feed from some lefty pot head. I have no idea if it is accurate or if it is relevant to this thread topic but I'll post it anyway. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/381345/448019307_10230601684538326_661634225583-3242135.jpg You make less so they can make more and they are importing third worlders to force your pay even lower. The people in here reeeeing about this fact will change their tune when they are pushed out of middle class and a 25 illegals are living in their home they used to occupy. Historically the population eventually removes the heads after so much let them eat cake. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:25:54 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Arizona tea. Still the same old price Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: depends on the industry. Name ONE Arizona tea. Still the same old price They shrunk the can a bit and also increased the bottle price 25% to offset the cans. 
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