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This is not an FU NY thread.

Seriously, is it possible for New Yorkers outside of NYC and maybe Albany to withdraw from the state of NY to form a new state?

What obstacles are there?

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That pesky little part of the Constitution about not making new states within the borders of an existing state?

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Constitution apparently doesn't apply to NYS.

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The Fed still won't recognize it or give you 2 more Senators.

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This is not an FU NY thread.

Seriously, is it possible for New Yorkers outside of NYC and maybe Albany to withdraw from the state of NY to form a new state?

What obstacles are there?

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The Fed still won't recognize it or give you 2 more Senators.

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That's OK, let the megacities rule themselves, and leave the normal people alone. win/win

 

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/on-the-road-should-new-york-state-be-split/

That only two states have been admitted to the Union by splitting off from other states (Maine from Massachusetts in 1820, and West Virginia from Virginia in 1863)...

State Senator Joseph E. Robach, a Republican who represents part of Rochester, has proposed legislation that would allow each of New York State’s 62 counties to hold a referendum in 2010 to ask voters this question: “Do you support the division of New York into two separate states?” The referendum – if it is even legal – would be nonbinding...

The proposal has little chance of becoming reality, in a state where Democrats control the governor’s mansion and hold a narrow majority in the Senate and a commanding majority in the Assembly...  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States

Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1 of the United States Constitutions reads: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. Some of the movements to partition states have or do identify themselves as "secessionist" movements.

Maine
Maine was originally an exclave of Massachusetts. Long-standing disagreements over land speculation and settlements led to Maine residents and their allies in Massachusetts proper forcing an 1807 vote in the Massachusetts Assembly on permitting Maine to secede; the vote failed. Secessionist sentiment in Maine was stoked during the War of 1812 when Massachusetts pro-British merchants opposed the war and refused to defend Maine from British invaders. In 1820 Maine voted to secede from Massachusetts, and the secession and formation of the state of Maine occurred in 1820 as part of the Missouri Compromise, which also geographically limited the spread of slavery and enabled the admission to statehood of Missouri the following year.

West Virginia
During the course of the American Civil War, the western counties of Virginia making up what is now West Virginia seceded from Virginia (which had joined the Confederacy) and became the 35th state of the U.S. Specifically, Unionist leaders in Wheeling set up a new state government for Virginia that was recognized by Washington. The new Virginia state government in turn voted to allow the western counties to secede. They did so, wrote a constitution, and were admitted to the Union as West Virginia. Support for the Confederacy and the Union was about evenly divided in the new state and guerrilla war lasted until 1865.

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That pesky little part of the Constitution about not making new states within the borders of an existing state?

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I generally dislike referenda. It usually results in bad law.

Nevertheless, theoretically a state referendum on withdrawal from or division of the old state of New York could be sold to the public in a way that secures the assistance of the masses in the large population centers - and thereby turning demographic obstacles into demographic advantages.

Example Proposed Referendum:
Vote YES or NO
The boundaries of the State of New York shall henceforth consist of the five boroughs of New York City and such and such counties [add whatever areas seem most feasible, be sure to include areas with a great number of affluent (RICH) people]. All public revenues generated from these area shall remain with the State of New York for the benefit and general welfare of the residents the State of New York. Areas outside the newly defined boundaries of the State of New York  are henceforth to be known as the State of Amsterdam.  

The voting portion of the FSA in the large population centers should be eager to get rid Amsterdam. More of the public treasure/lucre would be available to them. Get it?

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That pesky little part of the Constitution about not making new states within the borders of an existing state?

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this, but one could argue that WV became into existance that same way

West Virginia
During the course of the American Civil War, the western counties of Virginia making up what is now West Virginia seceded from Virginia (which had joined the Confederacy) and became the 35th state of the U.S. Specifically, Unionist leaders in Wheeling set up a new state government for Virginia that was recognized by Washington. The new Virginia state government in turn voted to allow the western counties to secede. They did so, wrote a constitution, and were admitted to the Union as West Virginia. Support for the Confederacy and the Union was about evenly divided in the new state and guerrilla war lasted until 1865.