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Posted: 1/16/2016 3:49:47 AM EDT
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/16/tripwire-alert-north-carolina-2016-republican-primary-ballot-example/


The leadership inside the professional Republican party apparatus will never accept Donald Trump as the nominee. Period.

The North Carolina GOP Primary Ballot is yet another indication.   Never before in party political history has the North Carolina Republican Party given voters the option of “NO PREFERENCE“.

Where do the “no preference” votes/delegates go?  To the party leadership of course.  What will they do with them?  Give to the party candidate.

Also note the position of Donald Trump in relationship to Jeb Bush on the ballot.........



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If they cheat Trump, he will become more powerful than they can possibly imagine.
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He's not getting a good deal?
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What does the e in GOPe stand for?
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GOPestablishment.
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GOPestablishment.
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That makes sense.
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When they start betraying Cruz, will you be cool with that? Is it Jeb all the way?

Because the only reason these shenanigans aren't targeting Cruz, is because Cruz isn't in the lead.
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If they obviously screw him, then sooner or later they're done as a party.
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Yep, they will regret it.
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When they start betraying Cruz, will you be cool with that? Is it Jeb all the way?

Because the only reason these shenanigans aren't targeting Cruz, is because Cruz isn't in the lead.
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When they start betraying Cruz, will you be cool with that? Is it Jeb all the way?

Because the only reason these shenanigans aren't targeting Cruz, is because Cruz isn't in the lead.



Yup.....Cruz was the anticipated target of this strategy,  Trump's entrance into the race and his subsequent success has them racing deadlines to make final tweaks to State primary rules to stop a "movement candidate".  

As I've said for months.... Trump is the best thing to happen to Cruz....there have been at least a couple of articles denoting that the GOP is warming to Cruz as a Trump alternative...
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I just refer to them as Vichy Republicans.

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Seriously, if the GOPe does what it wants and manages to kill off Cruz, Trump, Rubio etc and make Jeb the nominee, there will a general revolt, the GOP will cease to exist and Trump will run 3rd party.  Hilary is almost toast, I think The Bern wins the Dem nomination.

So I predict a three way race between RINO Jeb, Socialist Sanders, and crazy Trump.  I can't predict a winner there.
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it will prove interesting indeed...

The 'Real America' has no plans to roll over for uniparties bullshit
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I just refer to them as Vichy Republicans.

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump-lion.jpg?w=640


thats my go-to term now.
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If they obviously screw him, then sooner or later they're done as a party.
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If they obviously screw him, then sooner or later they're done as a party.


You have no idea of the many ways which the Democrat party and the Republican party have worked together to entrench themselves in the political system.
No third party can overcome the built-in advantages.
No candidate or party which seriously challenges the status quo will ever be able to raise enough money to be competitive. The people who run the system will make certain of that. See for example, the treatment of "TEA party" groups who sought tax exempt status to enable them to raise money.

The Republican party isn't going anywhere no matter how the people who run the party manipulate the rules, no matter how they affect the outcome of the race for the nomination and no matter what the outcome of the general election.
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I hate the Republican Party but there's no where else to go, not unless we adopt some sort of ranked voting system which ain't gonna happen.

I'm a hostage to the GOP establishment and I hate it.
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"Luck of the draw" has Jeb at the top of the Oklahoma ballot. . .and Ted at the very bottom.  Trump is in the middle someplace.

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Don't fight the trend, the trend is your friend
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If they obviously screw him, then sooner or later they're done as a party.


The GOPe has been attempting to screw Trump since at least the first debate while stacking the deck in their favor. They're not at all concerned about backlash at this point, and will only become bolder and more blatant in their attempts as the primary approaches.
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Battered Wife Syndrome.

The Republican Party counts on it-they know the vast majority won't vote Democrat or throw away their vote on a 3rd Party.

Nope,they will grumble and complain and pull the R lever no matter who the candidate ends up being.

80% of the House and Senate get reelected time and time again.


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You have no idea of the many ways which the Democrat party and the Republican party have worked together to entrench themselves in the political system.
No third party can overcome the built-in advantages.
No candidate or party which seriously challenges the status quo will ever be able to raise enough money to be competitive. The people who run the system will make certain of that. See for example, the treatment of "TEA party" groups who sought tax exempt status to enable them to raise money.

The Republican party isn't going anywhere no matter how the people who run the party manipulate the rules, no matter how they affect the outcome of the race for the nomination and no matter what the outcome of the general election.
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If they obviously screw him, then sooner or later they're done as a party.


You have no idea of the many ways which the Democrat party and the Republican party have worked together to entrench themselves in the political system.
No third party can overcome the built-in advantages.
No candidate or party which seriously challenges the status quo will ever be able to raise enough money to be competitive. The people who run the system will make certain of that. See for example, the treatment of "TEA party" groups who sought tax exempt status to enable them to raise money.

The Republican party isn't going anywhere no matter how the people who run the party manipulate the rules, no matter how they affect the outcome of the race for the nomination and no matter what the outcome of the general election.



Yep.
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GOPestablishment.

That makes sense.


Hmmm.... I thought it meant Elite, but Establishment makes sense,
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I am altering the deal.  Pray I do not alter it further.

 
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GOPestablishment.

I just refer to them as Vichy Republicans.

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump-lion.jpg?w=640


Now that is an awesome Party symbol (fixed it  for ya )

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....too bad Republicans have turned into the left.
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When they start betraying Cruz, will you be cool with that? Is it Jeb all the way?

Because the only reason these shenanigans aren't targeting Cruz, is because Cruz isn't in the lead.
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When they start betraying Cruz, will you be cool with that? Is it Jeb all the way?

Because the only reason these shenanigans aren't targeting Cruz, is because Cruz isn't in the lead.

The shenanigans ARE targeting Cruz and any other "Non-Compliant" potential nominee.


They are all in for Jeb and have been working on this since at least 2014.

Remember several months back when Jeb said they may have to lose the primary to win the general?  Out of context that was the stupidest political statement I can recall.  In context it now makes perfect sense.

The site OP posted also has some great research backed up with polling that shows how the GOPe strategy of divide the field and collect the Electoral College votes piecemeal is actually a pretty sound strategy.

Gonna be a real interesting convention.
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Amen, they are part of the problem, not the solution.
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They just have no idea of the anger they'll face.  




The left calls them the unwashed masses, or white, ignorant bigots.  The GOPe are calling them blue collar, low information voters who are too stupid to realize that Trump isn't a conservative.  




But they're 50 to 60 percent of the country and they're pissed off.  Don't piss them off even more if you expect to survive.
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Battered Wife Syndrome.

The Republican Party counts on it
-they know the vast majority won't vote Democrat or throw away their vote on a 3rd Party.

Nope,they will grumble and complain and pull the R lever no matter who the candidate ends up being.

80% of the House and Senate get reelected time and time again.


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I'm a hostage to the GOP establishment and I hate it.



Battered Wife Syndrome.

The Republican Party counts on it
-they know the vast majority won't vote Democrat or throw away their vote on a 3rd Party.

Nope,they will grumble and complain and pull the R lever no matter who the candidate ends up being.

80% of the House and Senate get reelected time and time again.



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All the anger in the world is impotent without a leader and an organization.
Who is the leader?
How will all those angry people organize? How will they communicate? Smoke signals? Semaphores? Notes carried by pigeons?

Perhaps you think that passage of CISA without drawing the public's attention by including it in last year's Omnibus spending bill was a coincidence.
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All the anger in the world is impotent without a leader and an organization.
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You may very well be seeing the seeds being planted for such a thing...

Non Uniparty supporters have now realized that they are far from alone in their desires.   If Trump or Cruz prevail in the State primaries yet have the rug yanked out from under them at the convention, then you will see their supporters realize that a third party is the only way short of blood.

I suppose that if everyone that was afraid to vote 3P over the years actually voted 3P it would be quite an eye opener,   the uniparty counts on folks buying that a vote for 3P is a thrown away vote...
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The people that are getting cheated is/are the citizenry...it's high time we put an end to the shenanigans.

This is the same a Tammany Hall or any other corrupt system.



 
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thats my go-to term now.

That's perfect.  Very impressive.  

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If the ballot box fails to work this time..people need to see it.
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If they cheat Trump I hope he sues them into bankruptcy.
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His opinion (and money) were pretty dang powerful when he was supporting the Clintons, advocating for gun control, and using eminent domain... Can't get much more politically "powerful" than that...

The only *real* enemy to Trump is Trump...
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Given that ALL polls show that such a move would all but guarantee a Hilary victory...what exactly are you advocating?
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This would be suicide for the GOP. But this is also what Jeb is counting on or else he would have bowed-out long ago.

The politburo is ruling the country.
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Fuck the GOP.

That's what I am advocating.
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Given that ALL polls show that such a move would all but guarantee a Hilary victory...what exactly are you advocating?


Fuck the GOP.

That's what I am advocating.


Your thoughts count for Hillary.  Scientific fact.
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There was some talk recently of Jeb or another establishment candidate running as an Independent to prevent Trump from becoming president.  It was discussed on a Fox News show and they said the result would be a major loss of the Republican Senate and House majorities like has never been seen before.
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Fuck the GOP.

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Given that ALL polls show that such a move would all but guarantee a Hilary victory...what exactly are you advocating?


Fuck the GOP.

That's what I am advocating.

Cutting your nose off to spite your face. Sounds reasonable.
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Funny but Apt analogy....
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Cutting your nose off to spite your face. Sounds reasonable.
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Given that ALL polls show that such a move would all but guarantee a Hilary victory...what exactly are you advocating?


Fuck the GOP.

That's what I am advocating.

Cutting your nose off to spite your face. Sounds reasonable.


It's really more like cutting off a body part with gangrene.  Whoever the GOPE tries to choose will lose.  I will guarantee this 100%!

I am with ZW17.  If the GOPE tries to screw over whoever the nominee is, Trump, Cruz, etc... then they are done I my eyes.
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Your thoughts count for Hillary.  Scientific fact.
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I would like to see Trump break away from the GOP and start another party. With the following and energy he has behind him, now is the time.


Given that ALL polls show that such a move would all but guarantee a Hilary victory...what exactly are you advocating?


Fuck the GOP.

That's what I am advocating.


Your thoughts count for Hillary.  Scientific fact.


Given a choice between Hiltary and Jeb "But it's my turn  Daddy!" Bush I will vote for Hitlary.  I'd prefer and enemy that comes at me rather then being stabbed in the back.
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All the anger in the world is impotent without a leader and an organization.
Who is the leader?
How will all those angry people organize? How will they communicate? Smoke signals? Semaphores? Notes carried by pigeons?

Perhaps you think that passage of CISA without drawing the public's attention by including it in last year's Omnibus spending bill was a coincidence.
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But they're 50 to 60 percent of the country and they're pissed off.  Don't piss them off even more if you expect to survive.


All the anger in the world is impotent without a leader and an organization.
Who is the leader?
How will all those angry people organize? How will they communicate? Smoke signals? Semaphores? Notes carried by pigeons?

Perhaps you think that passage of CISA without drawing the public's attention by including it in last year's Omnibus spending bill was a coincidence.



Shit like this is why a Corporol almost Conquered the known world....

The GOPe is pushing people to that point people will want someone to lead the disenfrancished to have a "Night of the Long Knives on the GOPe".

This is the stuff that leads to Revolution.
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GOPestablishment.

I just refer to them as Vichy Republicans.

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump-lion.jpg?w=640


thats my go-to term now.

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