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Posted: 6/16/2024 4:09:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Shouvalov Due to a number of insurmountable circumstances, sometimes there is no opportunity to write something for a very long time. and from what has been written there is too little that can be posted here. The Northern Military District in the Ukrainian direction is in a hopeless dead end, but only for two sides - Ukraine and Russia. The West receives the destruction of one systemic enemy in our person and one potential enemy in the person of Ukraine. There are exercises going on for the West, albeit a little more expensive than usual, but as close as possible to combat ones. The West is transferring its armies to modern weapons, testing advanced models at the Ukrainian training ground and discarding outdated ones. Will Europe or the USA get tired of such a “war”? No, they are happy with everything. Accordingly, we must now decide with whom, as well as, most importantly, why we are organizing our military operations. Without this base, there is no point in doing anything further, because an action devoid of clear goals is at least useless, but in reality it is dangerous. First the goal, then the nature of the actions corresponding to the goal(s). Doing it and then seeing what happens is very original, but damn... But first, please be reminded: when did the Pentagon rely on the opinions of its bloggers when conducting large-scale military operations? Maybe the Americans are just stupid and didn’t think of this? Well, there must be a reasonable explanation why their military in combat is not commanded by civilians, selected by other civilians for the number of likes and subscribers among other civilians? My vision is simple: all bloggers-scribblers-journalists on military topics should either receive accreditation from the Ministry of Defense, or stop writing on the topic of military operations directly. And I understand that my writing will certainly be banned, and I will accept it. But we have entered a situation where the military is already stretched to the wire, although we need to give them more legal and adequate powers - and step aside. It was not the military who caused what we see, but at least don’t interfere with us cleaning up what we got. The military should not demand money - this is nonsense. The military must convey a list of what they require to complete the tasks assigned to them. Civilian leadership must either provide or confront the fact of the limits of provision. And then you need to look for an option on what to do with the available resources. If the car’s braking system is not ready, then no one will drive according to the principle “we’ll figure something out on the road.” What adequate plan of action could we have now? First, we make the West a party to the conflict. Terrible exercises, when your elements of the strategic nuclear forces are truly destroyed, are a circus. US drones over the Black Sea must be shot down. Without comment or explanation, without even acknowledging the obvious fact that we did it. In European countries, we unilaterally declare unmanned zones for a very short time (literally a couple of hours). And believe me: they will not risk raising a single civil aircraft during this time. We warn - for their own safety, that's all. Our reconnaissance drones should regularly fly into European territory, extremely cheap. For the sole purpose of being shot down over cities and strategic targets. If they don’t shoot down, they will screw up militarily (they will become like us), if they shoot down, they will bring problems for themselves in the form of falling debris. What will they answer? Will Ukraine be supplied with tanks, planes and shells? So, as it were, already... There should be one answer to any accusations or indignations: this is how we are the first to offer peace, it is you who are playing at escalation. https://t.me/shouvalov/206 Secondly, we are stopping active actions in the Ukrainian direction (partially, we are replacing them by drawing Europeans into them) and are preparing all our forces for a future big war. The Third World War will begin in the years 26-29, it is inevitable and has no alternative. The old world military security system does not exist, just as there is no option for “peace agreements” that can now be implemented at all. Burying in Ukraine the remains of military potential, which will soon be needed for real, is nonsense. It no longer matters what mistakes were made and what we may wish for - without a global war there is not a single option for the future. As a result, new rules will be written and new borders will be established. According to her, and only according to her. But we not only do not prepare for it - we do everything to approach it completely unprepared. Third, the powers of the military (I’m not talking about myself - that’s what the General Staff exists for). It is unacceptable to trash military generals for non-military mistakes. Keep the civilian rear guards with big gold stars for yourself - do whatever you want with them, but leave the military officers and generals for now. Complete transfer of military powers to the military - or the most total defeat, which our history has never even seen. The defeat of the Black Sea Fleet group is a direct consequence of the fact that civilians imposed their “commanders” and their “strategy” on the military. Do you know the main military secret around the Russian Black Sea Fleet? For political leaders, he is a pride and a symbol, but in military circles of the Russian Black Sea Fleet he is either an exile or a sawmill, where it is customary to dump those with whom the “worthy” flotillas did not want to deal. Political gloss and personnel slag. This is very mild and without unnecessary explanations. And what we see in the result is a completely predictable outcome. Just no conclusions. There is one more continuation here: a total ban on non-military leaders touching on military topics, the introduction of the death penalty by screwing scarecrowers with nuclear retribution onto an aspen stake, etc. Because it only makes the enemy laugh when a scarecrow with a mark in the military registration and enlistment office “little scoundrel” has not even seen a tank (it will either get stuck with its head in the hatch, or cannot reach the pedals with its small legs), but it spews out gigatons of red lines. Fourth, an even greater strengthening of the military. It was precisely the “political” positions that led to the fact that the protection of rear facilities was so badly failed. The forces of strategic nuclear deterrence are being destroyed with impunity, any types of our aviation (including strategic ones) are literally being genocide at airfields, justifying the absence of all possible measures (from preventive to reaction) by the fact that we are not at war with anyone. On the one hand, such a step to strengthen the military carries some political risks, but on the other hand, at least the rules of the game will become clearer. In a country that has actually gone into a state of war, the military should dictate the terms, and not some “services” with incomprehensibly hypertrophied powers. And one should not think that the military will immediately engage in all types of clashes - they understand the cost of such actions, and therefore look at the situation more clearly. Fifth, start addressing the issue of drugs and alcohol at the front. The death penalty can be introduced, special operations can be carried out against trading systems. There is someone there to fight with, and they also have strength. But if the situation with drugs and alcohol is not resolved, the army will end, even without war. Sixth, a clear negotiation system. Any of our actions to involve the West as a participant in hostilities should lead to the fact that the West participates not so much in supplies, but in problems, as in the case of declaring unmanned zones on their territory. But in response, we must immediately identify the conditions under which a conditional “peace” is possible. Real conditions. In Ukraine it is impossible to find victory in the current war, but one can wait for a strategic defeat - in Ukraine, because of Ukraine but not from Ukraine, let’s say. At any cost, we need the opportunity to radically change the system of preparedness for a future global war. But with the current state of affairs, we will sooner count to infinity than wait for positive news. https://t.me/shouvalov/207 Shouvalov, man, my opinion of you has just taken a hit. First, the idea that Ukraine is “a potential enemy” of the west is just huffing your own farts. Ukraine, Poland, and Finland are Europe’s buffer against what is going to go down in Russia in the next 10 years. Ukraine needs Europe and Europe can’t afford to make enemies of any of them. The idea is fucking retarded. Second, the idea of “involving the west” by shooting down drones and declaring no-fly zones OVER EUROPE shows A) you’re fucking desperate and B)you have no fucking clue how bad an idea declaring a no-fly zone over Europe would be for you. Third, where we 100% agree, World War Three is impending if not imminent. If only you morons hadn’t burned up 50% (so far) or 75% (by the time it kicks off) of your irreplaceable Soviet shitpile, plus letting us attrit your most modern kit, your economy, and your nuclear deterrent with complete impunity. But you did, so…thanks! Fuck your evil shithole country. I will dance a happy dance the day the Russian Empire falls, and I will buy a bottle of good scotch to save for that day and that day alone. But keep the commentary coming in the meantime. 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 4:45:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Or Wirblewind to piss off the WOT addicts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Abakan: Let's call it Ostwind II just to piss off the orcs Or Wirblewind to piss off the WOT addicts.  There is no Wirbelwind in WoT. The left in Germany went rabid after Rheinmetall named the KF-51 "Panther". This meltdown was nice to watch. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 4:46:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: There is no Wirbelwind in WoT. The left in Germany went rabid after Rheinmetall named the KF-51 "Panther". This meltdown was nice to watch. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Abakan: Let's call it Ostwind II just to piss off the orcs Or Wirblewind to piss off the WOT addicts. There is no Wirbelwind in WoT. The left in Germany went rabid after Rheinmetall named the KF-51 "Panther". This meltdown was nice to watch. OK War Thunder! |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 5:29:17 AM EDT
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   Newest AEW&C A-100 is being tested. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 5:36:39 AM EDT
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Translated from French by
Ukrainian War - Week 24 | 2024 Label colors: Ukraine Gains (+ 0 km²) 🟨 Losses (- 28.38 km²) 🟦 Russia | LPR | DPR Gains (+ 33.54 km²) 🟥 Losses (- 0.58 km²) ⬛️ 
 
6\ #ucraina Kharkhiv front: the news of isolated Russian units in the Vovchask Aggregate plant appears to be confirmed. News that is actually from 3 days ago. The Russians apparently attempted a major attack, but were then cut off and in these 3 days they were unable to reach the group, which is under constant Ukrainian fire. I'm generally skeptical of this type of news, but reports seem consistent to me. 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 5:52:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2024 5:53:48 AM EDT
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A report with complete immersion into the atmosphere of the defending Kharkov region. Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov went to the front line in the Kharkov region, where "Charter" - the 13th brigade of the National Guard as part of the "Advance Guard" - is currently fighting. The video was recorded near the village of Liptsy, located 20 km north of Kharkov - this is the closest point to the city where the Russian occupiers (whose corpses are shown by the journalist) were able to reach during their large-scale attack on the regional center. Near this settlement, “Charter” pushed back the enemy in a counter battle, knocking out the Rashists from the positions they had just occupied. Moreover, knocking out with considerable losses for the invaders, as Ukrainian defenders report. The report is replete with demonstrations of the bodies of the occupiers: both single and group scenes. But the “details” are blurred, so you can even watch while eating. Here - completely.
https://t.me/yigal_levin/68313  «?? ??????? ?????? ?? ??????? ?????????» - «??????» ?????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??? | ???? ??????? |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 6:03:01 AM EDT
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"Exit from under attack"
An ancient tactical technique for saving aviation from defeat at airfields. Widely used by all parties participating in the SVO. The essence of the maneuver is to quickly lift all vehicles into the air and wait out danger in the air in specially designated areas. Of course, the maneuver is effective only if the enemy’s intentions to strike your airfield have been detected in advance, no matter what. Missiles, bombs, UAVs, or artillery. The main requirement for such conclusions is to reduce radio traffic to a minimum. Ideally, it should be conducted on closed channels, but if for some reason this is not possible, then the squadron’s radio exchange is conducted by the unit commander. Again, ideally this is the squadron commander. If he can’t handle it, then the flight commander conducts communications; if everything is completely “well” organized or there is panic, then each crew conducts radio communication independently. This was done for the reason that the enemy listens to all open radio exchanges and draws conclusions, taking into account the inclusion of radio equipment to support the operation of aviation and communication on closed channels. When we will have a single, standard, closed data transmission channel in aviation that will allow us to inform the crew about the entire tactical and air situation, I don’t know. But I think everyone understands that it is needed no less than shelter. Nowadays, managing combat aviation through open communication channels, like a hundred years ago, is rock bottom. The recovery time from impact is limited by the maximum time the aircraft remains in the air, therefore the most economical flight modes are used; in aviation they are called maximum flight duration modes. Today this time is several hours. Of course, if the strike is known with a high degree of probability, waiting out the strike from the air is not used; the entire unit simply flies to a suitable airfield and waits there. They are trying to get out with suspended weapons, but options are possible. They try to have at least two such pre-prepared airfields for each unit. Our side managed to retain dozens of aircraft units behind the Northern Military District precisely thanks to the timely withdrawal from attack. Which, in turn, became possible only thanks to intelligence and awareness of the enemy’s plans. Despite this, according to statistics, the largest number of damaged aircraft is due to the destruction of airplanes and helicopters at airfields and operational sites. Not in the air and not in battle. Unlike the enemy, we have enough airfields that allow us to maneuver aircraft in any form. The enemy can't do that. But we must take it for granted that if a plane stands in the same place for 3 days, on the 4th a drone will fly into it. We are currently exporting a lot of things because the enemy’s long-range drones fly for a very long time and there is time to prepare. As soon as it is not they, but the rockets that fly, this time will be reduced to a couple of tens of minutes. You need to be prepared for this yesterday. https://t.me/fighter_bomber/17069 |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 6:21:47 AM EDT
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 ENG. VER. Kamikaze drones destroyed an assault group of occupants.  Ukrainian New Weapons. Ground Vehicle D-21-11: Killer Robot, MedEvac and Frontline Delivery System |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 6:25:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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  Msta SPG with double layered drone protection. Some Mad Max tanks:       Damaged Russian assault shed based on T-72B with parts of the "armor" lying next to it       From the orcs. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 6:54:15 AM EDT
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  Interesting concept. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 7:47:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2024 7:53:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: They watched the same documentary on Discovery Channel (or was it Viasat History) about Desert Storm I that I did? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: So Pantsir is doctrinally meant to provide point defense for S-300P/S-400 but the design requirements were focused on rotary-wing threats. There is probably some insane deep Russian procurement lore there as to why that is the case They watched the same documentary on Discovery Channel (or was it Viasat History) about Desert Storm I that I did? lol, could be Ridge is just going down a rabbit hole that is confusing to western minds regarding the design requirements of Russian anti aircraft systems.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:02:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQJKjEZWoAAEA5u?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQJLT2nWYAABrWR?format=png&name=900x900 Interesting concept. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:09:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQJKjEZWoAAEA5u?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQJLT2nWYAABrWR?format=png&name=900x900 Interesting concept. lol   Defining Possible with Cannon-Based Air Defense |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:41:13 AM EDT
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/06/breaking-down-the-u-s-navys-hellscape-in-detail/
‘Hellscape’ envisions a battlefield filled with tens of thousands of unmanned ships, aircraft, and submarines all working in tandem to engage thousands of targets across the vast span of the West Pacific. Admiral John Aquilino, former commander of the Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM), originally coined the term in August 2023 at the Emerging Technologies for Defense Conference and Exhibition. The concept, at its core, leverages the Department of Defense’s initiative to rapidly procure and field large amounts of unmanned systems, taking critical lessons from the ongoing War in Ukraine that has revolutionized unmanned warfare. Owing to these lessons, Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks announced the Department’s Replicator initiative at the same conference in 2023. Since then, the program has been hard at work developing new capabilities. ‘Hellscape’ and ‘Replicator’ are closely related to each other and many of the capabilities set to be delivered in the Replicator program will have direct applications to the Hellscape concept envisioned by INDOPACOM. Replicator itself has sought out to deliver the exact capabilities that the Hellscape concept refers to. INDOPACOM’s ‘Hellscape’ concept will feature unmanned systems in every domain. From High-Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) UAVs like the U.S. Navy’s MQ-4C Triton maritime patrol aircraft, down to one-way attack unmanned surface vessels (USVs) like the Muskie M18 developed by MARTAC. In between will be a myriad of different platforms that provide a number of unique capabilities to the overall ‘Hellscape’ concept. A major concept being pursued that applies to ‘Hellscape’ is the U.S. Navy’s ‘Project Overmatch’; the branch’s contribution to the overall Department of Defense Joint All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2) effort to mesh information flows into one combined picture. EpiSci was recently awarded a follow-on contract to continue their efforts for this program. Project Overmatch, as a concept, fits directly into the ‘Hellscape’ concept of a networked force of asymmetric systems that can coalesce to deliver solid punches despite being made up of small components of an overall networked force. Most prominent are the various procurements of one-way attack drones like the AeroVironment Switchblade 600 or UVison Hero-120. The U.S. Marine Corps are specifically focused on loitering munitions and one-way attack drones and have issued contracts in 2021 and 2024 for integration and procurement of various unmanned systems. This year, UVision announced that the Hero-120 would be produced in the U.S.–likely due to demand for the system. A mix of these systems, alongside countless other classified capabilities and unmentioned procurement efforts highlight the drive to make ‘Hellscape’ a reality. The U.S. Marine Corps unveiled a concept last year of Hero-120 loitering munitions installed on a Long-Range Unmanned Surface Vessel (LRUSV), showcasing just what is possible when these systems are integrated together. The LRUSV, based on the U.S. Navy’s ’40PB’ built by Metal Shark, is yet another example of how ‘Hellscape’ is already becoming a reality. Concepts developed by firms like Ocean Power Technologies (OPT), a leading organization in maritime power generation, could be used to power this ‘Hellscape’. All unmanned systems have a limited quantity of power and fuel onboard for sustained operations. OPT’s PB3 PowerBuoy could be deployed by U.S. Navy ships to recharge USVs and UUVs while providing secure data transfer capabilities. OPT has also developed unmanned mine countermeasure craft on their WAM-V USV, a current candidate for ‘Replicator’.  The vision of ‘Hellscape’ is clear in the Department of Defense and dozens of active programs, some under the Replicator initiatives and others independent of it, are pushing towards the bigger picture of an Indo-Pacific full of unmanned systems in a hypothetical war. ‘Hellscape’ is fundamentally an asymmetric concept. Designed as a delaying action, the systems that make up ‘Hellscape’ would be used in massive numbers to impede any attempted invasion force while causing the highest level of damage possible, allowing U.S. and allied forces adequate time to set up necessary logistics and forward-based forces in the West Pacific. This could include the deployment of Marine Littoral Regiments (MLRs), Army Multi-Domain Task Forces (MDTFs), and Navy Carrier Strike Groups (CSGs) dedicated to longer term, high-end operations. Days and weeks prior to conflict, the United States and allies would likely know with high certainty about an impending invasion. This could set in motion a rapid deployment of unmanned systems deployed in-theater beforehand, much like the MQ-9 Reaper UAVs already deployed in the Philippines and recent unmanned surface vessel (USV) deployments to the Pacific last year. These assets are easier to move, carried in standard shipping containers and onboard large transport aircraft that can quickly preposition large numbers of these assets. According to the U.S. Navy, thousands of these systems would be thrown at an invasion force, networked together into one large picture. ‘Project Overmatch’ would play a large part in this connectivity. Unmanned vehicles can also be delivered by ship and submarine. DARPA recently picked six companies to further their effort in developing ship-launched infrastructure-free unmanned aircraft, and the U.S. Navy already completed tests of an underwater UUV launched from a Virginia-class fast-attack submarine. Various other UUVs are in different stages of development, with many focused on extended-range sensor coverage and battlespace awareness. This combination of land, surface, and undersea delivery methods for a wide variety of unmanned systems will add to the overall weight behind the punch that ‘Hellscape’ can offer.  In practice, this could look like thousands of unmanned systems launched from submarines, surface ships, aircraft, and land-based vehicles dispersed across the West Pacific. across several days and weeks as war breaks out in the Pacific; a grim but honest reality. The goal would be to delay the initial elements of an invading force for a long enough time to allow a major transit of ships, submarines, and aircraft from the United States to bases across the Pacific. The second role of ‘Hellscape’ could be to gather intelligence and put infrastructure in place to support a GPS and intelligence denied environment. Unmanned systems like Saildrone’s Surveyor SD-3000 and Textron’s Aerosonde UAV can provide intelligence where gaps exist in satellite or manned aircraft overflights, giving allied forces a complete image of the battlefield at all times in early days and weeks of a conflict when real-time intelligence is difficult to collect. Concepts of this network have already been tested by NAVSEA earlier this year. Connected by satellite, HALE UAVs, and other aspects of ‘Project Overmatch’ that network, drones would engage large amphibious fleets crossing the Taiwan Strait from multiple vectors, coming from islands, undersea, and from drone motherships far outside the first island chain. One-way attack drones would be used to deplete large amounts of surface-to-air missiles carried by fleet escorts, while submarines launch UUVs to silently monitor waters hundreds of miles away. Attritable intelligence gathering USVs, UUVs, and UAVs would also operate on the front lines, dispersed across hundreds of miles to maximize coverage, giving allied forces a single, fused image of the battlespace with the help of ‘Project Overmatch’. Exact details of how this would look in a real wartime scenario remain classified. ‘Hellscape’ is by no means the only plan the U.S. has in response to a potential invasion of Taiwan. Officially, the United States does not make a clear-cut policy in regards to this matter. But in the event that the United States does move to defend Taiwan from an invasion, ‘Hellscape’ will only be the first of many parts of a much larger plan. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:45:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryVery weird. No tanks….but 58 Arty and 56 support vehicles? |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:48:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Friends, I know that now everyone is most concerned about how Igor’s case will progress after the appeal is rejected. Here's the most up-to-date information. Now my husband is still in a pre-trial detention center, the conditions of detention have not changed: he is still in solitary confinement. Therefore, be sure to write letters to Igor - it is very important for him to know that he is supported in the wild. Letters can be sent to: 111020, Moscow, Lefortovo Val, building 5. Girkin Igor Vsevolodovich There is a possibility that he will be sent to another colony, so I will give him more personal items and clothes in the near future. I will inform you as soon as information appears that he has been transferred to another institution. Our future plans include filing an appeal. Igor’s case will be considered by the court, which will have to check how correctly the law was applied by the previous court. Your support is very important for Igor. Thank you! https://t.me/i_strelkov_2023/1135 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/IMG_4317-3242276.jpg Next month it will be exactly one year since the arrest of retired FSB colonel, commander of the Crimea detachment and the Slavyansk garrison Igor Strelkov. Strelkov's controversial personality created supporters and enemies around him, a man of the most difficult fate, who always took risks and adventures in the name of abstract and intangible values. You can say whatever you want about him, shout at the top of your lungs about hatred of this historical figure, but no one can dispute the fact of his coolness - before going to military service, the man fought as a volunteer in two wars, and far from home, thousands of kilometers away. The man rose to the rank of colonel and received the Order of Courage. The man stood at the origins of the creation of the militia in Crimea and annexed the peninsula to Russia. The man led a legendary detachment that entered Slavyansk and Kramatorsk and created history before everyone’s eyes, thanks to which today Russia received Lugansk and Donetsk. An operation that has no analogues in Russian or European history. A man sentenced to life in The Hague and fought with barefoot militia against the regular army. History will remember him under the name of Igor Strelkov. She has already cultivated him into one of the key personalities of the ten-year epic war with Ukraine. Whether someone likes it or not. https://t.me/terrikony_donbassa/24147 I feel Russian/Soviet history has plenty of his kind recorded. Fits for the motherland and performs a “great service” and then sees add tries to reform the “mistakes” and evils he begins to notice around him. Then he’s eaten by the corruption and ruling class at the top to never be seen again. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:49:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Very weird. No tanks….but 58 Arty and 56 support vehicles? Maybe they finally ran out lmao |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:08:59 AM EDT
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Remember when it was 10:1 just a few weeks ago? |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:10:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:11:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Maybe they finally ran out lmao Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Very weird. No tanks….but 58 Arty and 56 support vehicles? Maybe they finally ran out lmao lol. 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:32:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Easterner]
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While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed.
 Attached FileOne has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:59:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: It’s a pretty smart move. agree. you gotta figure the tank threat -- while certainly not zero -- has been diminished having a 35mm armored platform to support infantry attacks at this point seems like a better capability |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:01:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. lol, it is like a morale boosting shirt. I'm laughing looking at the details in it.  Glad you guys are safe. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:04:35 AM EDT
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ISW assessment for June 15th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-15-2024 ISW special from the 14th. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/why-putin-remains-uninterested-meaningful-negotiations-ukraine |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:08:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Post including the Russian casualties.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:14:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. I'm not sure if I would be proud or ashamed to wear that shirt Take care. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:17:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: agree. you gotta figure the tank threat -- while certainly not zero -- has been diminished having a 35mm armored platform to support infantry attacks at this point seems like a better capability Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: Originally Posted By Capta: It’s a pretty smart move. agree. you gotta figure the tank threat -- while certainly not zero -- has been diminished having a 35mm armored platform to support infantry attacks at this point seems like a better capability Well, the BMPT was not a great success.  |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:47:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: "Exit from under attack" An ancient tactical technique for saving aviation from defeat at airfields. Widely used by all parties participating in the SVO. The essence of the maneuver is to quickly lift all vehicles into the air and wait out danger in the air in specially designated areas. Of course, the maneuver is effective only if the enemy’s intentions to strike your airfield have been detected in advance, no matter what. Missiles, bombs, UAVs, or artillery. The main requirement for such conclusions is to reduce radio traffic to a minimum. Ideally, it should be conducted on closed channels, but if for some reason this is not possible, then the squadron’s radio exchange is conducted by the unit commander. Again, ideally this is the squadron commander. If he can’t handle it, then the flight commander conducts communications; if everything is completely “well” organized or there is panic, then each crew conducts radio communication independently. This was done for the reason that the enemy listens to all open radio exchanges and draws conclusions, taking into account the inclusion of radio equipment to support the operation of aviation and communication on closed channels. When we will have a single, standard, closed data transmission channel in aviation that will allow us to inform the crew about the entire tactical and air situation, I don’t know. But I think everyone understands that it is needed no less than shelter. Nowadays, managing combat aviation through open communication channels, like a hundred years ago, is rock bottom. The recovery time from impact is limited by the maximum time the aircraft remains in the air, therefore the most economical flight modes are used; in aviation they are called maximum flight duration modes. Today this time is several hours. Of course, if the strike is known with a high degree of probability, waiting out the strike from the air is not used; the entire unit simply flies to a suitable airfield and waits there. They are trying to get out with suspended weapons, but options are possible. They try to have at least two such pre-prepared airfields for each unit. Our side managed to retain dozens of aircraft units behind the Northern Military District precisely thanks to the timely withdrawal from attack. Which, in turn, became possible only thanks to intelligence and awareness of the enemy’s plans. Despite this, according to statistics, the largest number of damaged aircraft is due to the destruction of airplanes and helicopters at airfields and operational sites. Not in the air and not in battle. Unlike the enemy, we have enough airfields that allow us to maneuver aircraft in any form. The enemy can't do that. But we must take it for granted that if a plane stands in the same place for 3 days, on the 4th a drone will fly into it. We are currently exporting a lot of things because the enemy’s long-range drones fly for a very long time and there is time to prepare. As soon as it is not they, but the rockets that fly, this time will be reduced to a couple of tens of minutes. You need to be prepared for this yesterday. https://t.me/fighter_bomber/17069 Which means that the drone attacks are having the salutary effect of forcing frontal aviation to burn a lot of flight hours just taking off, flying patterns, and landings to avoid drone attacks. This cannot be good for aircraft maintenance and readiness and will have a major impact on availability and operational readiness rates. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:49:47 AM EDT
[#31]
 Anticipating on MGCS, KNDS is also presenting the EMBT with the ASCALON© Demonstrator Turret ADT 140, a remotely operated turret equipped with a 140 mm ASCALON© gun. I don't see that a 130 or 140mm gun is necessary in the near future. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:54:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Very weird. No tanks….but 58 Arty and 56 support vehicles? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Very weird. No tanks….but 58 Arty and 56 support vehicles? I guess enough ammo is getting forward to expand the target list. Plus, artillery in general and towed stuff in particular tends to be vulnerable during movement. Additionally, since the Russians are digging into older stuff and increasingly relying on mobliks for crews, my bet is that a lot of it is being deployed using various close-in Battery formations, which makes them highly susceptible to counter-battery and cluster munition attacks. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:57:41 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. I like it! |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:03:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/xynekS9.jpeg I don't see that a 130 or 140mm gun is necessary in the near future. Sometimes you need to turn a 3 story building into a single story building right NOW.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:19:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Sometimes you need to turn a 3 story building into a single story building right NOW. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/xynekS9.jpeg I don't see that a 130 or 140mm gun is necessary in the near future. Sometimes you need to turn a 3 story building into a single story building right NOW. Then just rip the bandage off and go to 127mm/5' or 155mm. No use in reinventing the wheel when one already has over a century's worth of firing and ballistic data to exploit in the design phase!
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:22:04 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. beard, cap, flannel shirt, and a beer?? That's an arfcom member right there!
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:22:40 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQMw-m5WcAA83Ck?format=jpg&name=medium
Post including the Russian casualties.
I see the screaming dead bird face |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:56:57 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Well, the BMPT was not a great success. https://i.imgur.com/CKcpwF7.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: Originally Posted By Capta: It’s a pretty smart move. agree. you gotta figure the tank threat -- while certainly not zero -- has been diminished having a 35mm armored platform to support infantry attacks at this point seems like a better capability Well, the BMPT was not a great success. https://i.imgur.com/CKcpwF7.jpeg The BMPT is not a SHORAD vehicle either. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:08:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:10:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Remember when it was 10:1 just a few weeks ago? But it was never 10:1 because the Ukrainians were never out of ammunition! |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:16:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:26:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/Wxttd1F.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/uweCW13.jpeg Msta SPG with double layered drone protection. Some Mad Max tanks: https://i.imgur.com/DapHcNu.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/fuIpPIn.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/Cq0jL90.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/SIMoiAe.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/IlCy7pD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/us53ZOZ.jpeg Damaged Russian assault shed based on T-72B with parts of the "armor" lying next to it https://i.imgur.com/3Opujou.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/Yf9IRTx.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/a3gCrHb.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/DYOF21S.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/2bx9q8j.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/9ZPyAYq.jpeg From the orcs. Seeing a lot of T62s lately. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:31:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQM81u1W4AA_pq9?format=png&name=small I think the real news here is that they’ve established the maximum range a BTR can hit the broad side of an M113.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:48:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: I think the real news here is that they’ve established the maximum range a BTR can hit the broad side of an M113. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:50:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The BMPT is not a SHORAD vehicle either. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: Originally Posted By Capta: It’s a pretty smart move. agree. you gotta figure the tank threat -- while certainly not zero -- has been diminished having a 35mm armored platform to support infantry attacks at this point seems like a better capability Well, the BMPT was not a great success. https://i.imgur.com/CKcpwF7.jpeg The BMPT is not a SHORAD vehicle either. Of course not, but it's a designated infantery support vehicle. Wasting a Skyranger at the frontline as infantery support isn't a good idea IMHO. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 12:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Then just rip the bandage off and go to 127mm/5' or 155mm. No use in reinventing the wheel when one already has over a century's worth of firing and ballistic data to exploit in the design phase! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/xynekS9.jpeg I don't see that a 130 or 140mm gun is necessary in the near future. Sometimes you need to turn a 3 story building into a single story building right NOW. Then just rip the bandage off and go to 127mm/5' or 155mm. No use in reinventing the wheel when one already has over a century's worth of firing and ballistic data to exploit in the design phase! Ze Germans have been looking at 140mm for a while because they aren't allowed to use DU for their penetrators. They have to go bigger to get close to the same performance as a US 120 APFSDSDU. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 1:14:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kipple: I'm not sure if I would be proud or ashamed to wear that shirt Take care. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kipple: Originally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. I'm not sure if I would be proud or ashamed to wear that shirt Take care. Oh it's hideous. We look forward to the team leaders's reaction when we all walk in wearing our shirts. 
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Posted: 6/16/2024 1:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kipple: I'm not sure if I would be proud or ashamed to wear that shirt Take care. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kipple: Originally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. I'm not sure if I would be proud or ashamed to wear that shirt Take care. “A man walks down the street in that SHIRT, people know he's not afraid of anything.” |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 1:23:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQMw-m5WcAA83Ck?format=jpg&name=medium
Post including the Russian casualties.
That is awesome. Shit got wrecked! Other than about 4 glide bombs in the past week, it's been really quiet here. Looks like they are being dealt with harshly!
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Posted: 6/16/2024 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: While I read and catch up.... Enjoy the new Hawaiian shirt I will be sporting for our next meeting. Yes Bigfoot and mushrooms is quite the strange subject matter, but sad puppies and cats playing golf were already taken by others. We found these in a military shop today, while getting some gear we needed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240616-162701_2_png-3242409.JPG One has a USA hat, so it seemed appropriate for me. I love it, here in Oregon people doing shrooms and seeing bigfoot is commonplace. Rock that thing. |
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