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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:02:49 PM EDT
[#1]
1st amendment auditor huh
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't speak for many of us, me included. When there are police violations of the law and policy, it needs to be thoroughly and effectively investigated. I see many people judging the police who have never had to deal with the situations the police are thrust into. Have you? By your logic, cops need to be criminals in order to understand criminals? I guess that's why we're at this point... |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It breaks my heart to see how far some of these guys have falle The only thing that's changed is the Citizen's ability to document it. It's no longer our word vs theirs because everyone has a camera in their pocket. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No Government enforcer ever is. I dont get the Right wing worship of the very peopel that will be sent to disarm them. The Right fears gun control laws. Why? They probably have not had or seen a bad interaction with JBTs, but look here, it’s a generally right wing place, there is plenty of hate for the cops in threads like this. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:18:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One day, we will see that scene from V for Vendetta where the cop shoots the kid, and the citizens beat him to death. That badge won’t be worth the tin it’s stamped on. Then later a few could chisel his name off that wall in D.C. to make certain his name isn't placed alongside the better cops. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:20:46 PM EDT
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If that was the old lady making that snoring sound in video. She's got possible severe head trauma. Fuck those pos thugs.
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:22:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Fuck that guy and his trumped up charges. Complete overreaction to the woman not complying to his order. Minimum, she and her family get paid, max he gets fired as well (hopefully).
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:27:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that was the old lady making that snoring sound in video. She's got possible severe head trauma. Fuck those pos thugs. Yes that was her agonal breathing you hear. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:29:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistorySeeing that really fucking pisses me off. All over just filming them. No matter how much LE hates this. They are public servants not the damn Gestapo for the Government. To do this to that woman. They need to be tied to a pole stripped and publicly caned. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:48:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seeing that really fucking pisses me off. All over just filming them. No matter how much LE hates this. They are public servants not the damn Gestapo for the Government. To do this to that woman. They need to be tied to a pole stripped and publicly caned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Seeing that really fucking pisses me off. All over just filming them. No matter how much LE hates this. They are public servants not the damn Gestapo for the Government. To do this to that woman. They need to be tied to a pole stripped and publicly caned. Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:56:22 PM EDT
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Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days.
 Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. Interfering with Operation Tax Collection Car Tow should be a capital offense |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:17:42 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seeing that really fucking pisses me off. All over just filming them. No matter how much LE hates this. They are public servants not the damn Gestapo for the Government. To do this to that woman. They need to be tied to a pole stripped and publicly caned. Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Would that be a lawful order if he did? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:18:35 PM EDT
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 Influencer injured in Fort Worth arrest, police investigating use of force |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:22:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That "lawful command" crap is trained and rehearsed just like "stop resisting". "Sir, I am giving you a lawful order." "Officer, I am giving you a lawful response." (Like 'no'.) Giving a “lawful order” that isn’t based on lawful authority should be personally expensive. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Giving a “lawful order” that isn’t based on lawful authority should be personally expensive. exactly. maybe use pension funds to sponsor. but all cops are trained that ANYthing they say to a peasant, is a lawful command and you MUST COMPLY. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes that was her agonal breathing you hear. That is not agonal breathing. It is obstructed breathing. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:39:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Are you defending the police on this one? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:39:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Freddy was waiting for the chance to attack and fuck up a 5'3, 57-year-old woman by slamming her into the concrete because she dared to embarrass him.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnzGIjpBb7s |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:40:10 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. You got issues dude. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Giving a “lawful order” that isn’t based on lawful authority should be personally expensive. Civilians aren't NCO's and LARP'er rank is ceremonial at best 
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:41:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Krueger is a thug and needs to go to jail but that lady is nuts and annoying. That first part of the video where she was harassing and insulting him shows how nuts she is. Is nuts and annoying illegal? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:42:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who committed a felony here? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many problems would be solved by people going to work, not committing felonies, and minding their own business? Who committed a felony here? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:44:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:46:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you defending the police on this one? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Are you defending the police on this one? I'm more thinking this was a collision of assholes. Not saying the cop was right, but not saying the lady was right either. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:48:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes that was her agonal breathing you hear. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If that was the old lady making that snoring sound in video. She's got possible severe head trauma. Fuck those pos thugs. Yes that was her agonal breathing you hear. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:49:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm more thinking this was a collision of assholes. Not saying the cop was right, but not saying the lady was right either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Are you defending the police on this one? I'm more thinking this was a collision of assholes. Not saying the cop was right, but not saying the lady was right either. Excessive force to effect an arrest, lawful or not, is not really in question. Probably shoulda had a female office arrest her as there were quite a few on scene as well. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:50:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? That's what Ft Worth PD said was going on, but they appeared to be towing cars, which was what she was asking about. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:51:24 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:51:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what Ft Worth PD said was going on, but they appeared to be towing cars, which was what she was asking about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? That's what Ft Worth PD said was going on, but they appeared to be towing cars, which was what she was asking about. It wouldn't be uncommon to tow a car that was suspected in a hit and run. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:53:33 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is nuts and annoying illegal? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Krueger is a thug and needs to go to jail but that lady is nuts and annoying. That first part of the video where she was harassing and insulting him shows how nuts she is. Is nuts and annoying illegal? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:54:24 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It wouldn't be uncommon to tow a car that was suspected in a hit and run. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? That's what Ft Worth PD said was going on, but they appeared to be towing cars, which was what she was asking about. It wouldn't be uncommon to tow a car that was suspected in a hit and run. They appeared to be towing quite a few cars, and had a large police presence in the area. Not saying this lady isn't annoying, as it seems to be so, but they fucked her up really bad without cause. If you can't arrest an elderly woman without sending her to the hospital you may be too costly for the tax payers to fund your job. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:54:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm more thinking this was a collision of assholes. Not saying the cop was right, but not saying the lady was right either. She may have been an asshole but she didn't need to be thrown to the ground and have trumped up charges pressed
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:55:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Excessive force to effect an arrest, lawful or not, is not really in question. Probably shoulda had a female office arrest her as there were quite a few on scene as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Are you defending the police on this one? I'm more thinking this was a collision of assholes. Not saying the cop was right, but not saying the lady was right either. Excessive force to effect an arrest, lawful or not, is not really in question. Probably shoulda had a female office arrest her as there were quite a few on scene as well. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:58:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many problems would be solved by people going to work, not committing felonies, and minding their own business? In this case the only felon is that cop. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:58:28 PM EDT
[#39]
BTW is there any other video of this besides the victim here?
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:59:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid pretty much confirmed that  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sad to say but police are no longer your friends. Covid pretty much confirmed that Yep. They did their masters' bidding during the Chinaflu and showed they back the green just as much as they back the blue. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:59:50 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW is there any other video of this besides the victim here? Ft Worth PD wants to be clear and transparent. That's all they are gonna release as of now. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:03:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still really damn good men in law enforcement, but they are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Hey, recruitment is a challenge. Demographics aren't what they used to be and the youth in this nation are increasingly weird. So, things will get worse before they get better. Plus, keep in mind that poor leadership in these departments really accounts for a lot of these type of incidents. In short, is what it is and my advice is to not live in densely populated areas with lots of law enforcement. Avoiding contact with "the man" is always best, they're not your friends and they shouldn't be trusted anymore than you would trust any stranger. Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. I think I understand what you are getting at. This could have very well been a lethal force incident if one of the car owners, upset that it’s getting towed had asked the same thing from the officers. The public literally dodged a bullet with a 1st Amendment auditor asking how they asses if the parking fee was paid rather than the vehicle owners. The link says it was a hit and run investigation.... ? You’re right man, my bad. That changes everything. Good face drop! Hopefully Officer Krueger will get a raise, promotion, and awards for his proactive crime fighting to make up for this unfortunate misunderstanding. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:05:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ft Worth PD wants to be clear and transparent. That's all they are gonna release as of now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: BTW is there any other video of this besides the victim here? Ft Worth PD wants to be clear and transparent. That's all they are gonna release as of now.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:09:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that guy and his trumped up charges. Complete overreaction to the woman not complying to his order. Minimum, she and her family get paid, max he gets fired as well (hopefully). He has already been fired by two other departments for excessive force. DFW didn’t care though |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:10:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the officer tell her to stop filming or tell her to move across the street? Why does that matter. She can film and stand where she wants. This isn’t North Korea |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:11:18 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that include running into the middle of an investigation and pestering the officers? That advice could have kept this lady from getting thrown on her face. They were writing traffic tickets on cars in a parking lot. There was no investigation. Meters ran out and they were writing tickets and towing. It might help if you actually knew what was going on. Plus, you only need to give them 10 feet. Defending these officers is not going to get you very far. Especially being he has been fired twice from two other departments for excessive force and had a history with this woman. There is no defense |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does that matter. She can film and stand where she wants. This isn’t North Korea Incorrect. There is a case I think stemming from Rochester NY about reasonable distance during performance of duty or some shit. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:15:08 PM EDT
[#48]
Old hag is lucky she isnt death or mute....
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:16:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He has already been fired by two other departments for excessive force. DFW didn’t care though Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck that guy and his trumped up charges. Complete overreaction to the woman not complying to his order. Minimum, she and her family get paid, max he gets fired as well (hopefully). He has already been fired by two other departments for excessive force. DFW didn’t care though If a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or (Space) Marine in uniform did this to a civilian their career would be over  |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:20:18 PM EDT
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For those of you who like to complain that the taxpayers are going to bear the responsibility for this, yes, that’s how it works. If the taxpayers get sick of paying for thug cops, then they will pay attention to the government officials that they elect, who are ultimately responsible for hiring and firing those same cops. The buck stops with the voters. Everyone likes to say at someone else’s fault.
A civil judgment is not the appropriate remedy here. The officer that did this needs to spend a few years in prison. That would be the appropriate punishment. Even firing him is not sufficient. He is a criminal, and he needs to spend a few years of his pathetic life hanging out with other criminals. |
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