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Posted: 11/19/2014 2:33:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Well the paint is now dry enough. Just have to decide on a light. I don't think I'm going to go with another WMX200 just because the WL output isn't very much and the spill is too wide. It just doesn't have a lot of throw. Plus, I'm only planning on picking up one ATPIAL-C and that's going on my CQBR upper, so the dual output light really isn't a factor. Thinking maybe an M600U. Pics of my FSP with my CQBR upper. Looks like I'm going to have to pick up a Pelican case as well. 
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15826205992_313e73c85f_b.jpg Who makes that multicam tape/wrap stuff? |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 2:41:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob123456789:
Who makes that multicam tape/wrap stuff? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob123456789:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Well the paint is now dry enough. Just have to decide on a light. I don't think I'm going to go with another WMX200 just because the WL output isn't very much and the spill is too wide. It just doesn't have a lot of throw. Plus, I'm only planning on picking up one ATPIAL-C and that's going on my CQBR upper, so the dual output light really isn't a factor. Thinking maybe an M600U. Pics of my FSP with my CQBR upper. Looks like I'm going to have to pick up a Pelican case as well.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15826205992_313e73c85f_b.jpg Who makes that multicam tape/wrap stuff? McNett Camo Form They make a whole bunch of other patterns as well. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 3:37:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Well the paint is now dry enough. Just have to decide on a light. I don't think I'm going to go with another WMX200 just because the WL output isn't very much and the spill is too wide. It just doesn't have a lot of throw. Plus, I'm only planning on picking up one ATPIAL-C and that's going on my CQBR upper, so the dual output light really isn't a factor. Thinking maybe an M600U. Pics of my FSP with my CQBR upper. Looks like I'm going to have to pick up a Pelican case as well.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15826205992_313e73c85f_b.jpg Lookin damn good. M600U all the way. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 9:37:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF]
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Are there any other low powered variables that have been spotted in the wild? So far I've seen the CQBSS as well the Elcan. Anything else in the 1-6x range? I'm thinking of swapping the Elcan back over to my CQBR and I'd like a little more magnification on the 14.5" upper without having to break the bank for a CQBSS. I know I've seen a few Vortex Razor 1-6x's on issue SCAR 17s (I'm assuming it's a personally owned optic) but outside of that, I really haven't seen anything else.
Pic thread: 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2014 10:40:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
It really isn't as hard as it seems. I've picked up an M4A1 RIS II FSP and a Mk18 RIS II, both in FDE, off the EE in the past month for well below retail. They were both in damn near perfect condition too. Keep your eyes open in the EE and it shouldn't take long to find what you're looking for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Is there any supply of FDE colored M4-A1 RIS II's, standard model or FSP models or even Mk18 RIS II's? Can't seem to find any. MK18 FDE: https://www.rainierarms.com/dd-mk18-ris-ii-rail-dark-earth DD is ramped up producing the RIS II family individual rail for SOCOM. The only way you're getting one is previously owned, complete upper, or what's left of a vendors old stock. Good luck. Blah whole thing kinda has me salty because I do know they ramped up production for SOCOM but they also starting selling complete Mk18, M4-A1 RIS II rifles, pistols and SBR's and complete uppers. They have seen how popular these guns are in our couple of threads and decided to cash in by selling complete guns and complete uppers. They could surely supply the rails if they WANTED to. It really isn't as hard as it seems. I've picked up an M4A1 RIS II FSP and a Mk18 RIS II, both in FDE, off the EE in the past month for well below retail. They were both in damn near perfect condition too. Keep your eyes open in the EE and it shouldn't take long to find what you're looking for. I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 12:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chuckman1108:
I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chuckman1108:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Is there any supply of FDE colored M4-A1 RIS II's, standard model or FSP models or even Mk18 RIS II's? Can't seem to find any. MK18 FDE: https://www.rainierarms.com/dd-mk18-ris-ii-rail-dark-earth DD is ramped up producing the RIS II family individual rail for SOCOM. The only way you're getting one is previously owned, complete upper, or what's left of a vendors old stock. Good luck. Blah whole thing kinda has me salty because I do know they ramped up production for SOCOM but they also starting selling complete Mk18, M4-A1 RIS II rifles, pistols and SBR's and complete uppers. They have seen how popular these guns are in our couple of threads and decided to cash in by selling complete guns and complete uppers. They could surely supply the rails if they WANTED to. It really isn't as hard as it seems. I've picked up an M4A1 RIS II FSP and a Mk18 RIS II, both in FDE, off the EE in the past month for well below retail. They were both in damn near perfect condition too. Keep your eyes open in the EE and it shouldn't take long to find what you're looking for. I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. I'm glad I pulled my RIS II sale when I did as of now these are going to be just a bit difficult to find. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:03:32 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chuckman1108:
I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. 
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By chuckman1108:
I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. It also weighs an metric ass-ton |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 2:45:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JimboJones1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By chuckman1108:
I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. Centurion C4 is a fantastic quad rail and I prefer it over the Ris 2 for weight considerations. If you want to argue about durability and lock up it is literally the same and it comes in at 86% of the weight. Also, I'm not sure if the 17.7oz product wegiht includes the barrel nut for the DD Ris II. In that case if it does not you're looking at a 20% weight reduction. You get a full quad, a tad off of the final weight, and it's still bomb proof. Product Weight17.7 oz for 12'' Ris 2 14.2oz with screws---1.1oz with standard barrel nut for the C4. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By chuckman1108:
I got a great deal on EE on a like-new BCM 16" mid upper with a FDE RIS II. I like the rail...I like KMR, the Centurion, the DD round rails, but at the end of the day I prefer a quad rail and the RIS II is arguably one of the best; and, should I choose, I can later turn it into a clone, run a different barrel, etc. There are more option by keeping this rail. Arguably one of the best?? Name one fucking rail (besides Daniel Defiense) that mounts as solid as a RIS II. Can't do it. La Rue is close enough, but they don't have a FSP. KAC URX2,3,3.1 |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:35:56 PM EDT
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RIS II heavy? Hit the gym. All joking aside, I thought DD made some of the lightest rails out there?
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tmender03:
RIS II heavy? Hit the gym. All joking aside, I thought DD made some of the lightest rails out there? This is true......just not the RIS family |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:42:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
This is true......just not the RIS family Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
RIS II heavy? Hit the gym. All joking aside, I thought DD made some of the lightest rails out there? This is true......just not the RIS family Truth, MILSPEC yo. That shit has to be Joe-proof. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tweeter:
Truth, MILSPEC yo. That shit has to be Joe-proof. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tweeter:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
RIS II heavy? Hit the gym. All joking aside, I thought DD made some of the lightest rails out there? This is true......just not the RIS family Truth, MILSPEC yo. That shit has to be Joe-proof. I know what you mean by that. That said, I didn't think the RIS II on mine was that much heavier than the RAS I had on before going full Block II. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 6:16:56 PM EDT
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Was going through some photos I shot for work, and noticed the Block II M4A1 this PJ had rigged up for the jump. If I remember correctly (can't tell by the photo) it was a FSP model.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2014 10:00:06 PM EDT
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Finally scored a 99051 in taupe ( a nice tan color, not od tinted ) . Now if I could find a Eo 553 tan and marked su231-peq my block II upper would be done.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fastfoot:
Finally scored a 99051 in taupe ( a nice tan color, not od tinted ) . Now if I could find a Eo 553 tan and marked su231-peq my block II upper would be done. Glad to see mine go to a fellow cloner  PM sent on the SU231
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Posted: 11/21/2014 9:19:24 PM EDT
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I just got a TA01NSN to put on my rifle. Only thing is, it doesn't have any BUIS on it, but has the correct NSN on the side (1240-01-412-6608). The seller told me he bought it new around 2000.
Anyone know if it's still clone correct? I'll probably put in on my rifle anyway for the time being at least. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 9:36:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UsubM: I just got a TA01NSN to put on my rifle. Only thing is, it doesn't have any BUIS on it, but has the correct NSN on the side (1240-01-412-6608). The seller told me he bought it new around 2000. Anyone know if it's still clone correct? I'll probably put in on my rifle anyway for the time being at least. Pics would help, but the NSN has iron sights. The standard TA01 does not. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 10:39:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tweeter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UsubM:
I just got a TA01NSN to put on my rifle. Only thing is, it doesn't have any BUIS on it, but has the correct NSN on the side (1240-01-412-6608). The seller told me he bought it new around 2000. Anyone know if it's still clone correct? I'll probably put in on my rifle anyway for the time being at least. I seen plenty of Block II rifles with regular old (and I mean old, like original old) TA01NSN. They're still used by lots of folks. Rock on with it, you'll make hits. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2014 12:50:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Great_Balls_of_Fire]
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Took an East Coast Democrat shooting for the first time the other day. It was only a 30 yard range but he really wanted to shoot from a bipod. Converting them one at a time
[youtube]<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://youtu.be/fIjgv3vNFe4"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://youtu.be/fIjgv3vNFe4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>[/youtube] It's official... I suck at posting videos
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Posted: 11/22/2014 2:51:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pSnM1p" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7471/15666279219_5e720353ba_h.jpg</a> Thats sweet looking! NF 1-4x? And whered all the pretty grass go? 
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Posted: 11/22/2014 3:49:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gunnut003]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Took an East Coast Democrat shooting for the first time the other day. It was only a 30 yard range but he really wanted to shoot from a bipod. Converting them one at a time
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It's official... I suck at posting videos You gotta PAY to play....team members can embed...
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Posted: 11/22/2014 4:18:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4: Thats sweet looking! NF 1-4x? And whered all the pretty grass go? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pSnM1p" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7471/15666279219_5e720353ba_h.jpg</a> Thats sweet looking! NF 1-4x? And whered all the pretty grass go? And I love cold weather, but my yard looks like shit this time of year. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:08:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ihcnehc]
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  The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights are either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Lasers are either PEQ-15 or LA-5/PEQ UHP. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihcnehc:
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__02_zps95e8ab97.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__03_zps1144aac8.jpg The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights, either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Nice! Is there a noticeable difference in weight between the the two rifles with the different rails? |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:17:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ihcnehc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309: Nice! Is there a noticeable difference in weight between the the two rifles with the different rails? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309: Originally Posted By ihcnehc: http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__02_zps95e8ab97.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__03_zps1144aac8.jpg The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights, either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Nice! Is there a noticeable difference in weight between the the two rifles with the different rails? Thanks! without the barrel nut, the MK1 upper is noticeably less front heavy and handles very slightly better IMO. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:21:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gaston4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihcnehc:
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__02_zps95e8ab97.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__03_zps1144aac8.jpg The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights are either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Lasers are either PEQ-15 or LA-5/PEQ UHP. Those are some nice sticks man! Kinda looks like the "evolution" of the Block II into the future. And what designates a Elcan Heavy Duty? I have never seen that before. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:32:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ihcnehc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4: Those are some nice sticks man! Kinda looks like the "evolution" of the Block II into the future. And what designates a Elcan Heavy Duty? I have never seen that before. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4: Originally Posted By ihcnehc: http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__02_zps95e8ab97.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__03_zps1144aac8.jpg The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights are either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Lasers are either PEQ-15 or LA-5/PEQ UHP. Those are some nice sticks man! Kinda looks like the "evolution" of the Block II into the future. And what designates a Elcan Heavy Duty? I have never seen that before. Notice the windage adjustment shaft has a larger diameter. The HD designation existed for only a short period of time. Elcan decided to use heavy duty shaft for all its optics. As such, SU-230s or civilian model (SpecterDr) produced after that are all "heavy duty," even if they are not marked as such.   The SpecterDr on the left has the new "heavy duty" windage adjustment shaft. The SU-230 on the right has the original non-heavy-duty shaft.  |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:36:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihcnehc:
Notice the windage adjustment shaft has a larger diameter. The HD designation exists for only a short period of time. Elcan decided to use heavy duty shaft for all its optics. As such, SU-230s or civilian model (SpecterDr) produced after that are all "heavy duty," even if they are marked as such. http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/2014-OCT%20SU-230/__12_zps5de5411f.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/2014-OCT%20SU-230/__05_zps094ffab3.jpg The SpecterDr on the left has the new "heavy duty" windage adjustment shaft. The SU-230 on the right has the original non-heavy-duty shaft. http://www.nitevis.com/images/DFOV_SU230_Compare_02.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihcnehc:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By ihcnehc:
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__02_zps95e8ab97.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__03_zps1144aac8.jpg The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights are either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Lasers are either PEQ-15 or LA-5/PEQ UHP. Those are some nice sticks man! Kinda looks like the "evolution" of the Block II into the future. And what designates a Elcan Heavy Duty? I have never seen that before. Notice the windage adjustment shaft has a larger diameter. The HD designation exists for only a short period of time. Elcan decided to use heavy duty shaft for all its optics. As such, SU-230s or civilian model (SpecterDr) produced after that are all "heavy duty," even if they are marked as such. http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/2014-OCT%20SU-230/__12_zps5de5411f.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/2014-OCT%20SU-230/__05_zps094ffab3.jpg The SpecterDr on the left has the new "heavy duty" windage adjustment shaft. The SU-230 on the right has the original non-heavy-duty shaft. http://www.nitevis.com/images/DFOV_SU230_Compare_02.JPG Very interesting and a cool piece of gear. Thanks for the info! |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:12:35 AM EDT
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Just when I thought I was cool for having an Atpial, people go and start finding LA-5's. FML
 On the topic of SU-230's, I've decided to sell my Gen III SU-230 kit and wanted to give y'all first crack. IM or email me if interested.  |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:39:54 AM EDT
[#33]
Man it's amazing to me that you guys can afford those Elcan optics.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:56:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihcnehc:
Thanks! Geissele MK1 upper with steel barrel nut is actually slightly heavier than the RIS II upper. This is because the RIS II barrel nut is pretty light weight. However, because the MK1 rail itself is lighter than the RIS II without the barrel nut, the MK1 upper is noticeably less front heavy and handles very slightly better IMO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihcnehc:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By ihcnehc:
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__02_zps95e8ab97.jpg http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/ihcnehc/Block%202%20Checkpoint/__03_zps1144aac8.jpg The two 14.5s have Colt SOCOM barrels. Besides the rail, the two have identical setup. The shorty upper receiver group's barrel is cut from a Colt M4 barrel. The gas port is enlarged from 0.063" to 0.073". Optics are EOTech EXPS3-0, EOTech G33, and Elcan SU-230 HD ( Heavy Duty ). WMX200 lights, either VBL-600-A26 or VBL-600-A27. The lowers have Sprinco Blue and extractor spring and o-ring and H2 buffer, and Geissele SSA or SSA-E triggers. Nice! Is there a noticeable difference in weight between the the two rifles with the different rails? Geissele MK1 upper with steel barrel nut is actually slightly heavier than the RIS II upper. This is because the RIS II barrel nut is pretty light weight. However, because the MK1 rail itself is lighter than the RIS II without the barrel nut, the MK1 upper is noticeably less front heavy and handles very slightly better IMO. Interesting. While not apples to apples, I have a 10.3" MK18 RIS II (9.55") equipped rig, and a 10.3" Geissele MK4 (9.5") equipped rig. The Geissele 10.3" is noticeably lighter. ETA - oh, you have a MK1. I recall the original Geissele handguards being crazy heavy. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:20:19 AM EDT
[#35]
Yeah, I knew the MK1 was a somewhat heavy rail. I didn't realize it was even heavier than the RIS II though.
They still look badass.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:28:19 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Yeah, I knew the MK1 was a somewhat heavy rail. I didn't realize it was even heavier than the RIS II though.
They still look badass. According to the Geissele site, it's actually not heavier. There sure is not much out there heavier than the RIS II lol. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:39:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ihcnehc]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309: Yeah, I knew the MK1 was a somewhat heavy rail. I didn't realize it was even heavier than the RIS II though. They still look badass.  |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 8:34:48 AM EDT
[#38]
BCM M4 stocks are on sale for $12...so all you with commercial style M4 stocks have no excuse not to get one that looks right...
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Posted: 11/25/2014 11:41:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4_Commando]
[#39]
Anyone knows who has the fde ris II m4a1 (non fsp) rails in stock anywhere? Been looking for a while but cant find any.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2014 12:19:35 AM EDT
[#40]
Shot this Mule deer over the weekend with my block II clone. 65 grain sierra gameking did a number on it.
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MA, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:42:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Anyone got the video of the special forces guys engaging taliban with the block 2 with m203. Been going back and forth on that gun real hard. And now that i got an nfa trust i don't have to explain to my gun hating cleo why i want a grenade launcher in this shit state.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:56:28 AM EDT
[#42]
Honestly I do not find the rail that heavy. Then again, I am out of the mil now so I am not humping an M4 with 300+ rounds, water, batteries, my med bag, so to me the weight differences in a rail--ANY rail--is so inconsequential as to be a non-issue.
if it so so heavy as to be uncomfortable, either a) get a new rail, or b) work out and become stronger. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2014 4:10:20 PM EDT
[#43]
1st Recon w some phase replacement m4a1s
http://www.funker530.com/marines-fend-off-taliban-attack-in-sangin/ |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 4:14:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ihcnehc]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chuckman1108: Honestly I do not find the rail that heavy. Then again, I am out of the mil now so I am not humping an M4 with 300+ rounds, water, batteries, my med bag, so to me the weight differences in a rail--ANY rail--is so inconsequential as to be a non-issue. if it so so heavy as to be uncomfortable, either a) get a new rail, or b) work out and become stronger. |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 8:03:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hatexoc]
[#45]
New lower came in
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Posted: 11/26/2014 9:16:26 PM EDT
[#46]
So, I'm still trying to decide on an optic for my FSP build since I decided to keep the Elcan on my CQBR. It's a toss up. It's between a TA01NSN or a 1-6x. Since getting into the SBR game, I don't feel an absolute necessity for a 14.5" for a general purpose carbine so I am sort of leaning towards the 1-6x option to push the 14.5" into a semi-recce role.
With that said, would I be booed out of this thread if I tossed an SWFA SS 1-6x on it? SWFA has a decent sale on them for Black Friday and I've read some good reviews about it.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 9:28:28 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
So, I'm still trying to decide on an optic for my FSP build since I decided to keep the Elcan on my CQBR. It's a toss up. It's between a TA01NSN or a 1-6x. Since getting into the SBR game, I don't feel an absolute necessity for a 14.5" for a general purpose carbine so I am sort of leaning towards the 1-6x option to push the 14.5" into a semi-recce role. With that said, would I be booed out of this thread if I tossed an SWFA SS 1-6x on it? SWFA has a decent sale on them for Black Friday and I've read some good reviews about it.Don't you have an SU-231 on it now? I would leave it how it is but as far as magnification on a 14.5 i'd go TA01NSN |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 9:36:43 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Don't you have an SU-231 on it now? I would leave it how it is but as far as magnification on a 14.5 i'd go TA01NSN Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
So, I'm still trying to decide on an optic for my FSP build since I decided to keep the Elcan on my CQBR. It's a toss up. It's between a TA01NSN or a 1-6x. Since getting into the SBR game, I don't feel an absolute necessity for a 14.5" for a general purpose carbine so I am sort of leaning towards the 1-6x option to push the 14.5" into a semi-recce role. With that said, would I be booed out of this thread if I tossed an SWFA SS 1-6x on it? SWFA has a decent sale on them for Black Friday and I've read some good reviews about it.Don't you have an SU-231 on it now? I would leave it how it is but as far as magnification on a 14.5 i'd go TA01NSN Nah, the SU-231 is on my Phased Replacement clone. I think I have a clone problem.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 9:45:45 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Nah, the SU-231 is on my Phased Replacement clone. I think I have a clone problem. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
So, I'm still trying to decide on an optic for my FSP build since I decided to keep the Elcan on my CQBR. It's a toss up. It's between a TA01NSN or a 1-6x. Since getting into the SBR game, I don't feel an absolute necessity for a 14.5" for a general purpose carbine so I am sort of leaning towards the 1-6x option to push the 14.5" into a semi-recce role. With that said, would I be booed out of this thread if I tossed an SWFA SS 1-6x on it? SWFA has a decent sale on them for Black Friday and I've read some good reviews about it.Don't you have an SU-231 on it now? I would leave it how it is but as far as magnification on a 14.5 i'd go TA01NSN Nah, the SU-231 is on my Phased Replacement clone. I think I have a clone problem. You and me both! I only own 1 upper that isn't a clone now, and the fact that it isn't turned it into my beater upper. It's to the point where i'm almost not even interested if it's not a clone anymore. Shit's fucking addictive! |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 9:58:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
So, I'm still trying to decide on an optic for my FSP build since I decided to keep the Elcan on my CQBR. It's a toss up. It's between a TA01NSN or a 1-6x. Since getting into the SBR game, I don't feel an absolute necessity for a 14.5" for a general purpose carbine so I am sort of leaning towards the 1-6x option to push the 14.5" into a semi-recce role. With that said, would I be booed out of this thread if I tossed an SWFA SS 1-6x on it? SWFA has a decent sale on them for Black Friday and I've read some good reviews about it.I just picked up an SU-237 for my Block II, but I'm thinking it's going to be a placeholder until I can trade up and into a Leupy MK6. I'm mainly wanting to turn mine into a recce as well and I think the 1-6x is the perfect optic to do it. |
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