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Posted: 6/15/2019 8:48:58 AM EDT
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USS Ranger (cv-61)
'86-'90 "You know, Heaven has a wall, gate, and a strict immigration policy while Hell has open borders." |
[Last Edit: glenn_r]
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I've spotted errors on that site before. Better to go to the actual source. Or at least confirm it's accurate before counting on it.
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USS Ranger (cv-61)
'86-'90 "You know, Heaven has a wall, gate, and a strict immigration policy while Hell has open borders." |
[Last Edit: rfb45colt]
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First thing I see is there's no need for CO, MI, and PA saying "Yes, with restrictions". The restriction is "resident permits only".... WI issues resident permits only.
edit: there is an exception for military stationed in WI, they can get a WI resident permit... so I suppose that's a valid thing to put on the map. |
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[Last Edit: rfb45colt]
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Carry in places of worship? There is no State statute prohibiting concealed carry in places of worship, unless the place of worship is on the grounds or within 1,000 feet of a school which provides an educational program for one or more grades between grades 1 and 12. Also, since places of worship are private property, they may post signs prohibiting firearms.
AFAIK, a concealed carry permit allows carry within the 1000' school zone anywhere in the state, churches not withstanding. But not on grounds of a school itself. |
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Originally Posted By rfb45colt:
Carry in places of worship? There is no State statute prohibiting concealed carry in places of worship, unless the place of worship is on the grounds or within 1,000 feet of a school which provides an educational program for one or more grades between grades 1 and 12. Also, since places of worship are private property, they may post signs prohibiting firearms. AFAIK, a concealed carry permit allows carry within the 1000' school zone anywhere in the state, churches not withstanding. But not on grounds of a school itself. View Quote |
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USS Ranger (cv-61)
'86-'90 "You know, Heaven has a wall, gate, and a strict immigration policy while Hell has open borders." |
[Last Edit: rfb45colt]
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Originally Posted By USSRangerSM: I've seen a lot of churches that provide educational programs, I wonder how that fits into the equation. View Quote From the DOJ's CCW FAQ - https://www.doj.state.wi.us/sites/default/files/dles/ccw/ccw-faq%201-2018.pdf ... What is the definition of a school? School is defined as a public school, parochial or private school, or tribal school, as defined in s. 115.001(15m), which provides an educational program for one or more grades between grades 1 and 12 and which is commonly known as an elementary school, middle school, junior high school, senior high school, or high school. Wis. Stat. §§ 948.605(1)(b), 948.61(1)(b). 948.61(1)(b) - b) “School" means a public school, parochial or private school, or tribal school, as defined in s. 115.001 (15m), which provides an educational program for one or more grades between grades 1 and 12 and which is commonly known as an elementary school, middle school, junior high school, senior high school, or high school. Just having an educational program doesn't make it a "school"... unless it's a full time elementary, middle, or high school, it's not a "school". edit: also from the DOJ/FAQ link above is this - • A person who is a CCW licensee or out-of-state CCW licensee may possess a firearm within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a school, but not in or on school grounds. Wis. Stat. § 948.605(2)(b)1r |
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another question
Sword canes are illegal in Wisconsin Can you possess and carry one if you have a concealed carry license? |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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[Last Edit: 9divdoc]
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Originally Posted By NAM: Out of curiosity.....have a statute/cite? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I assume there was a law https://coldsteelarizona.com/sword-canes/pistol-grip-sword-cane.html Sword Canes not legal for sale to residents of CA or WI. |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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[Last Edit: NAM]
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc: No I don't was just looking at Cold Steel's website and they will not ship to CA or WI I assume there was a law https://coldsteelarizona.com/sword-canes/pistol-grip-sword-cane.html View Quote What is a knife vs a sword? Is a sword also a knife? I was unable to find legal definition for either. YMMV, I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, etc. |
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I get catalogs from these guys all the time, so I looked up cane swords and just picked one at random to see if they would ship one to WI. Yes apparantly they do, as it does say this -"This Item Cannot Ship to the Following States: CA, MA, NY". No mention of WI.
https://www.budk.com/Gil-Hibben-Custom-Self-Defense-Sword-Cane-16209 |
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc: another question Sword canes are illegal in Wisconsin Can you possess and carry one if you have a concealed carry license? View Quote Right from the letter that you get from the WI DOJ with your CCW card it states you are now authorized to conceal a gun, electric weapon, or billy club |
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How does a Wisconsin res carry and travel to the other states legally? Can Wisconsin res get a ccw in another state to expand the abilty to carry more states?
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So regarding the church/school thing, what would be the defining thing for school property? Question is due to church is building onto the school as was always planned. They share a wall and entrance. However there is is separate church only entrance. Obviously they share the parking lot. Can I goto church and enter through the church only entrance while CCW? Or is that in violation? This is assuming the church is not posted, like the old separate building wasn't. They list themselves as XXX church, school and early learning facility if that means anything legal wise.
Just a question I can't seem to find the answer to without paying a lawyer and arf has many time been very knowledgeable in the past. In no way would I consider here to be the definitive answer but can be of help in where to look. |
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[Last Edit: OWCH]
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Originally Posted By mindless1: So regarding the church/school thing, what would be the defining thing for school property? Question is due to church is building onto the school as was always planned. They share a wall and entrance. However there is is separate church only entrance. Obviously they share the parking lot. Can I goto church and enter through the church only entrance while CCW? Or is that in violation? This is assuming the church is not posted, like the old separate building wasn't. They list themselves as XXX church, school and early learning facility if that means anything legal wise. Just a question I can't seem to find the answer to without paying a lawyer and arf has many time been very knowledgeable in the past. In no way would I consider here to be the definitive answer but can be of help in where to look. View Quote Not a lawyer: Part of an answer.. If parking lot for church has lines for games on pavement. ( basketball hoop, tennis courts, hopscotch, stuff.) Then that is considered School property. Any part used for School functions. Don't cross that threshold. Don't park in that lot. |
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Originally Posted By jayfro: How does a Wisconsin res carry and travel to the other states legally? Can Wisconsin res get a ccw in another state to expand the abilty to carry more states? View Quote you can get permits from other states by meeting their requirements and applying for the permit. I have a Florida and Wisconsin permit, the only reason I have the Florida permit is I travel there quite a bit and it also gets me Texas which Wisconsin permit doesnt do. |
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A little pain never hurt anyone
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Originally Posted By lokltrkr: I have a Florida and Wisconsin permit, the only reason I have the Florida permit is I travel there quite a bit and it also gets me Texas which Wisconsin permit doesnt do. View Quote You do know that FL now honors a WI permit, right? I used to have WI, FL, UT, MN. My daughter moved from MN so I no longer need that one, and I let my FL expire also when I learned my WI was good there. I kept UT because it's relatively cheap, and UT will get you carry rights in TX also. |
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I think Texas went constitutional carry last year now that I think about so I may not need Florida any longer since I retired and wont be done there that much anymore.
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A little pain never hurt anyone
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I just renewed my FL for the sake of renewing it. Small price to pay to keep; rather have it and not need it. Plus, laws change.
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