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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:57:03 PM EDT
Didn't see a rucking forum in outdoor, training, or general, but here goes
What kind of pack/gear do you start with? It looks like there is a local rucking event at a VFW in september. I don't have any details, but last year was 18k with 18# (or kilos? forgot which), this year is 22K. Might be something to use to help motivate getting outside for walks. |
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ALICE pack and jungle boots. Be hard.
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There is, in fact, a backpacking forum. I'm not sure how "rucking" compares.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/outdoors/Backpacking-and-Camping/26/ |
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They are pricey but the Goruck packs are great packs.
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how old are you? what kind of shape are you in?
point being -- if you're in your 40s - 50s coming off the couch don't hold yourself to an unrealistic standard i don't do the goruck thing but would say this -- get a comfortable pack and put 20lbs in it. see if you can walk 4 miles in 1 hour. see how you feel -- adjust accordingly. of course the age-old US Army standard of 12 miles in 3 hours carrying about 50lbs is one well-known standard. but at my age that's not happening. |
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22k is 10 miles. That's not a beginner course. Totally doable, but I'd have yourself and your gear (pack and footwear, mainly) sorted before stepping off on that one.
Eberlestock packs are popular with the IL APC guys, but that's definitely a personal preference kinda thing. Edit- the suspension system on Eberlestocks is pretty plush- Attached File |
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I'll get dragged by the poors for this but: GORUCK Rucker is worth every penny. Also their boots are too.
ETA: rucking is actually a tremendous form of cardio. Do it with a buddy and bullshit the whole time and burn a FUCKLOAD of cals in the process. |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: 22k is 10 miles. That's not a beginner course. Totally doable, but I'd have yourself and your gear (pack and footwear, mainly) sorted before stepping off on that one. Eberlestock packs are popular with the IL APC guys, but that's definitely a personal preference kinda thing. Edit- the suspension system on Eberlestocks is pretty plush- https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/461668/12_19pack_jpg-2641159_JPG-2669771.JPG View Quote Thats why I want to work up to it. |
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"You know how butt ugly people are said to have hit every branch on the way down the ugly tree.
Well, the dumbass tree done drilled you in the butt and laid eggs in ya." -RJinks |
Been rucking to stay fit for MANY years. Lots of Goruck and other events under my belt including some 50 miles star courses. Get yourself a Goruck pack and plate. Get the good stuff and be done.
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Hit up an REI to get property fitted for hiking boots and a backpack.
Then go buy that stuff online from a company that doesn’t hate us. I keep mine packed for actual camping, so food, water, shelter, warm clothes, batteries, toiletries, and several ways to start a fire. I add loaded mags to get the weight I want it to be. For boots, I have Salomon’s and am currently breaking in a pair of Viktos. |
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Originally Posted By rcav8r: Didn't see a rucking forum in outdoor, training, or general, but here goes What kind of pack/gear do you start with? It looks like there is a local rucking event at a VFW in september. I don't have any details, but last year was 18k with 18# (or kilos? forgot which), this year is 22K. Might be something to use to help motivate getting outside for walks. View Quote 22K is a bit. I’m not sure your current age and fitness level, so maybe it’s a reasonable goal. I personally would not spend a lot of money on rucking equipment. Any decent backpack with waist straps will do. I duct taped 6 bricks together vertically and put that in my pack. That’s about 30 lbs, and I don’t typically add any weight beyond that. If I want a challenge I just walk faster, longer, or on steeper terrain. I personally don’t understand the whole ‘signing up for a race/competition/etc to motivate me to exercise’ thing. Your health should be enough reason. Just kick your ass to get up and do it. Or find a buddy to ruck with. |
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I used a 3 day pack starting out, then bought a goruck pack and clothes and boots
I usually ruck my steps. Each weekend I’d go a minimum of 10k steps |
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My pack is currently 50lbs +/- and only going to get heavier.
Attached File Boots right now are Danner RATs. I haven't needed winter boots yet this season either. If I'm not carrying my daughter my favorite pack is Ospreys Atmos 65L for backpacking and rucking. |
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Originally Posted By MacManus: I'll get dragged by the poors for this but: GORUCK Rucker is worth every penny. Also their boots are too. ETA: rucking is actually a tremendous form of cardio. Do it with a buddy and bullshit the whole time and burn a FUCKLOAD of cals in the process. View Quote I didn’t want to be the first to recommend GoRuck as I didn’t want to be called a fanboy. But I agree, loving their Rucker pack (3.0 version) and Rucker plates. Also have a bunch of their footwear, probably too many. I haven’t done any events as there aren’t any near me. I’ve been rucking for a few years - usually do 4+ miles every other day with 30 lbs. Occasionally I up it to 40 lbs but need to work on my shoulders more. |
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Originally Posted By MacManus: I'll get dragged by the poors for this but: GORUCK Rucker is worth every penny. Also their boots are too. ETA: rucking is actually a tremendous form of cardio. Do it with a buddy and bullshit the whole time and burn a FUCKLOAD of cals in the process. View Quote I lost 20+ lbs just walking with a weighted pack On Saturday mornings |
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Originally Posted By IHaveAGub: 22K is a bit. I’m not sure your current age and fitness level, so maybe it’s a reasonable goal. I personally would not spend a lot of money on rucking equipment. Any decent backpack with waist straps will do. I duct taped 6 bricks together vertically and put that in my pack. That’s about 30 lbs, and I don’t typically add any weight beyond that. If I want a challenge I just walk faster, longer, or on steeper terrain. I personally don’t understand the whole ‘signing up for a race/competition/etc to motivate me to exercise’ thing. Your health should be enough reason. Just kick your ass to get up and do it. Or find a buddy to ruck with. View Quote 10 miles is not something to be taken lightly. I have a buddy who is a marathon runner who decided to do a Bataan with me. He developed blisters around mile 7 but kept after it and finished. ETA: On the competition. Physical health is certainly motivation enough but competitions really get my blood flowing. |
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About three times a week I put on a full set of golf clubs and ruck several miles. Stopping frequently and putting the pack down and doing mobility drills. 🤣
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The surplus Army “10th Mountain” rucks are dirt cheap right now if you get them 9n the older ACU pattern. There are several generations of frame and not a ton of difference between them for non-Airborne applications. They are heavy as Hell empty but take a beating and are very flexible with the MOLLE pouches and attachments. Nothing wrong with them for starting out or rucks only lasting a few days..
I have Ospreys that I purchased for a trip to Philmont this summer: They are light as a feather but I don’t think they will handle years of abuse |
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LL Bean has a 30liter Ridge Runner ruck that is very comfy. The waist belt is very handy too.
Footwear needs to be broken in, don't wear some heavy boots that you took out of the box the day before. |
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I use my plate carrier, it's right around 40#s.
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I started with a hand me down, large framed Alice pack and a good pair of Merrell boots that fit properly.
I actually like the feel of the Alice pack despite the reputation they have. |
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I rucked for a while with a London Bridge Trading 3-day pack with 30-35 lbs of bricks in it. I had a circuit of just under 5 miles that I could finish in about an hour before work. I dropped 20 pounds and was in great shape. Then I tore a meniscus and it totally blew my motivation to work out. I'm going to get back at it when it warms up a bit.
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It’s really a sad commentary on our society where people need to “work up” to a 10 mile walk. Y’all, 10 miles isn’t far. Any man under 70 should be able to do that on a moments notice. I mean, my 8 year old hikes 10 miles no problem, even carrying his own water, snacks and essentials.
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: It's really a sad commentary on our society where people need to "work up" to a 10 mile walk. Y'all, 10 miles isn't far. Any man under 70 should be able to do that on a moments notice. I mean, my 8 year old hikes 10 miles no problem, even carrying his own water, snacks and essentials. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: It’s really a sad commentary on our society where people need to “work up” to a 10 mile walk. Y’all, 10 miles isn’t far. Any man under 70 should be able to do that on a moments notice. I mean, my 8 year old hikes 10 miles no problem, even carrying his own water, snacks and essentials. View Quote It's rucking. Not walking, not hiking, rucking. As in carrying weight. I carry 45+ pounds when I go out. Can your 8 year old carry 45lbs 12 miles? |
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I still like Mystery Ranch packs, that's what my family uses to put on miles. Regardless of the brand, make sure they are a somewhat "fitted" pacly, not just general sizes.
Good boots are your next best friend. I really like Lowas and Crispis. Another thing that I thought was stupid, but am a fun of now are trekking poles. These are a invaluable in steep terrain, and can double as shooting sticks. |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: It's rucking. Not walking, not hiking, rucking. As in carrying weight. I carry 45+ pounds when I go out. Can your 8 year old carry 45lbs 12 miles? View Quote He can’t carry 45 lbs since he weighs 50 lbs. Can you carry 200+ lbs for 12 miles? He does carry roughly 1 liter of water, his pack, snacks, a first aid/survival kit and a light jacket weighing about 10-12 lbs. Roughly 20-25% of his body weight. Weird flex on a 8 year old though. Yes, I understand what a ruck is. Any man should be able to carry 20-25% of his body weight at a moments notice for 10 miles. This is like basic physical fitness standards, regardless of how fat in general Americans are. |
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Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght: I still like Mystery Ranch packs, that's what my family uses to put on miles. Regardless of the brand, make sure they are a somewhat "fitted" pacly, not just general sizes. Good boots are your next best friend. I really like Lowas and Crispis. Another thing that I thought was stupid, but am a fun of now are trekking poles. These are a invaluable in steep terrain, and can double as shooting sticks. View Quote Trekking poles are awesome. Never understood how great they are till I tried some. Well worth the added weight. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: There is, in fact, a backpacking forum. I'm not sure how "rucking" compares. https://www.ar15.com/forums/outdoors/Backpacking-and-Camping/26/ View Quote Rucking: shitty gear designed to cause pain and misery. Backpacking: opposite of the above. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: There is, in fact, a backpacking forum. I'm not sure how "rucking" compares. https://www.ar15.com/forums/outdoors/Backpacking-and-Camping/26/ View Quote Rucking is like if you crossed Backpacking with Crossfit and then did obstacle courses (while carrying an artificially heavy pack) for funzies. |
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: Yes, I understand what a ruck is. Any man should be able to carry 20-25% of his body weight at a moments notice for 10 miles. This is like basic physical fitness standards, regardless of how fat in general Americans are. View Quote Seriously, while I agree with your sentiment in bold above, the truth is a far, far sadder thing. I've rucked a lot of miles with a lot of different guys in the last few years, most of them in at least decent shape. At 20-25% bodyweight most will struggle after six, might make ten but they will be DONE at the end unless conditioned to it. Your average guy off the street is going to be quitting by mile 3 or so if he even makes it that far. |
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I use a 40# bag of salt, because it occupies the volume in a pack.
Hill People Gear for the win |
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A couple of cheap water bladders in your ruck is a good way to carry weight and if you start sucking wind, it is easy to lighten your load. .
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First investment should be merino wool socks.
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Build up to it, or else you will get shin splints, etc. You need to harden up your bones, put the time in, or you'll hurt yourself.
20 years rucking with the military, on my 4th knee surgery, have a curved spine - ask me how I know. |
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: Seriously, while I agree with your sentiment in bold above, the truth is a far, far sadder thing. I've rucked a lot of miles with a lot of different guys in the last few years, most of them in at least decent shape. At 20-25% bodyweight most will struggle after six, might make ten but they will be DONE at the end unless conditioned to it. Your average guy off the street is going to be quitting by mile 3 or so if he even makes it that far. View Quote It’s sad, and in my opinion it’s an existential crisis for our nation. The general lack of fitness in males. Soft suburban life and “inside” activities taking the place of sports and outdoor skills as leisure time activities. We’re soft as a nation, and will eventually pay for it. |
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: Any man should be able to carry 20-25% of his body weight at a moments notice for 10 miles. This is like basic physical fitness standards, regardless of how fat in general Americans are. View Quote With all due respect, you have no clue what you're talking about. You want "any" man to be fitter than the Army's SF qualification test. Bullshit. |
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Originally Posted By neostoicism: It’s sad, and in my opinion it’s an existential crisis for our nation. The general lack of fitness in males. Soft suburban life and “inside” activities taking the place of sports and outdoor skills as leisure time activities. We’re soft as a nation, and will eventually pay for it. View Quote Soft is one thing. Training so hard it breaks your body down before you ever get a chance to be useful is another. You're over here advocating for knee replacements at 30 y/o. |
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"People don't think Cola Warrior be like it is but it do..." - George Washington
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"People don't think Cola Warrior be like it is but it do..." - George Washington
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Another vote for Mystery Ranch. They are very well made.
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y: With all due respect, you have no clue what you're talking about. You want "any" man to be fitter than the Army's SF qualification test. Bullshit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bcauz3y: Originally Posted By neostoicism: Any man should be able to carry 20-25% of his body weight at a moments notice for 10 miles. This is like basic physical fitness standards, regardless of how fat in general Americans are. With all due respect, you have no clue what you're talking about. You want "any" man to be fitter than the Army's SF qualification test. Bullshit. Can you break down their test? I have a hard time believing thats harder than their qual. |
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