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I haven't done it, but the Sea Hunt look is in.
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Back in 1969 I certified on single and double hose regulators. A lead belt was pretty low tech.
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I was certified in '71 using Aqualung and White Stag dual and single hose regs respectively. Buddy-breathing off a dual hose reg is a bit different than what most are accustomed to.
I still have my White Stag reg somewhere. |
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Very cool. I've been on the fence about picking up a Kraken for OC photography work.
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Originally Posted By JohnnyC:
Very cool. I've been on the fence about picking up a Kraken for OC photography work. View Quote This will make it balanced, using readily available service parts. It will give you the ports you need as well. Add the HPR and you have a unit that will rival most new single hose regulators out there. Can placement still applies, to both Kraken and older units. Oh, and I just picked up two more LP72's, galvanized with Thermo valves for $50. 1983 and 1970 vintage. A quick tumble and I will send them off for hydro with confidence. These will be for singles use with the DAAM |
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Originally Posted By DasRonin:
Back in 1969 I certified on single and double hose regulators. A lead belt was pretty low tech. View Quote |
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A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.
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A double hose rig (or maybe a rebreather) is on my eventual acquire list.
Both have benefits for underwater photo and video stuff. Rebreather is best of course, but damn they're spendy. |
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Talking about Scientology in the religion forum would be like talking about parachutes in the SCUBA forum. - DK-Prof
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Argonaut Kraken is next on my buy list. Modern double-hose from Vintage Double hose. They also make a back plate designed to work with DH regs.
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:
A double hose rig (or maybe a rebreather) is on my eventual acquire list. Both have benefits for underwater photo and video stuff. Rebreather is best of course, but damn they're spendy. View Quote |
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Hey OP - awesome vintage stuff!
I understand current equipment and rebreathers - what is the value to an old DH rig other than nostalgia? It is still open circuit, right? So if a guy can dive doubles for more bottom time, or rebreathers for stealth, what is the use case for a DH rig? |
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Originally Posted By sendit14:
Hey OP - awesome vintage stuff! I understand current equipment and rebreathers - what is the value to an old DH rig other than nostalgia? It is still open circuit, right? So if a guy can dive doubles for more bottom time, or rebreathers for stealth, what is the use case for a DH rig? View Quote The double hose setups are said to be great for underwater photo/video work. They're too damn rich for my blood at this point though. |
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Talking about Scientology in the religion forum would be like talking about parachutes in the SCUBA forum. - DK-Prof
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Originally Posted By bap:
Thanks For me, it's using and experimenting with the equipment. I play with a lot of different regulators. There is a case to be made for DH regs in cold water -- the don't freeze up. As mentioned above, photogs dig them as the exhaust is behind you. And yes, you can get really close to critters - this I can confirm. I never thought much of drag, but it is definitely evident to me now. Even with the tiny doubles, I can haul ass. On my last dive I zipped past a couple of divers with ease and one pointing to me a wtf look. I find myself dialling in my weight even more so now by not using a bcd. In the early days of SCUBA, one had to know their weight to planned depth. Basically, you needed to be nominally buoyant at the surface and depending on your weights/plan, you may have to knife dive your way to a depth that your exposure suit looses some buoyancy. This is not an exclusive thing for me though. Still love my modern stuff. Will be doing the USS Rankin once this bitch Irma rolls past [in my bunker now]. Here are some pics of DH divers on the Doria shortly after it sunk.... https://s26.postimg.org/3s6i2ru5l/Diver_and_porthole.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/9f2v08wo9/divers_on_promenade.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/4vqmeqesp/Diver_Lifeboat.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bap:
Originally Posted By sendit14:
Hey OP - awesome vintage stuff! I understand current equipment and rebreathers - what is the value to an old DH rig other than nostalgia? It is still open circuit, right? So if a guy can dive doubles for more bottom time, or rebreathers for stealth, what is the use case for a DH rig? For me, it's using and experimenting with the equipment. I play with a lot of different regulators. There is a case to be made for DH regs in cold water -- the don't freeze up. As mentioned above, photogs dig them as the exhaust is behind you. And yes, you can get really close to critters - this I can confirm. I never thought much of drag, but it is definitely evident to me now. Even with the tiny doubles, I can haul ass. On my last dive I zipped past a couple of divers with ease and one pointing to me a wtf look. I find myself dialling in my weight even more so now by not using a bcd. In the early days of SCUBA, one had to know their weight to planned depth. Basically, you needed to be nominally buoyant at the surface and depending on your weights/plan, you may have to knife dive your way to a depth that your exposure suit looses some buoyancy. This is not an exclusive thing for me though. Still love my modern stuff. Will be doing the USS Rankin once this bitch Irma rolls past [in my bunker now]. Here are some pics of DH divers on the Doria shortly after it sunk.... https://s26.postimg.org/3s6i2ru5l/Diver_and_porthole.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/9f2v08wo9/divers_on_promenade.jpg https://s26.postimg.org/4vqmeqesp/Diver_Lifeboat.jpg |
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@bap
What's the story behind your undeserved hit? If you don't mind sharing... |
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Originally Posted By Marie:
@bap What's the story behind your undeserved hit? If you don't mind sharing... View Quote Within ndl, hour SI. Normal slow ascents, extended safety stop on second dive. Dehydration not an issue. Type ll cns, the one you don't want. Symptoms didn't show until drive home. Don't know how I made it there. Heli'ed to wrong hospital, cluster f. to the max. Over 7 hours in chamber (2 rides). Have some residual issues in left hand, but after testing still got cleared to dive thankfully. Could have been a lot worse. Always knew it was possible, but never thought it would really happen to me, especially when looking back when I was younger and doing dives that I should have been bent doing. Time to dial it back a bit for me. |
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Vintagedoublehose is having a March madness sale starting on the 10th and for those that expressed interest in the Kraken, he is now taking preorders for them.
A group from there has several Krakens at Truk now. A little jelly...my no 1 bucket list dive. |
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Love your thread, OP. DHs really are great for photographers. Fewer bubbles get in your way, and as others have mentioned, the critters seem less spooked by them. In general, exhalation is quite easy with them, depending on your position, of course.
You certainly have been digging up some nostalgic pieces of equipment, although as you said, that really wasn’t your original intention. Sort of makes me wish I had held on to my Swimmaster Trieste-J DH from 1969. Interestingly, the first stage of that regulator was the same as on their Titan-II-J (IIRC) single hose regulator, so I bought a single hose 2nd stage and converted it over to a single hose regulator and used it for years after. |
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A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.
- Alexander Hamilton |
I had a US Divers Royal Aquamaster... no bubbles in your face
you may notice some issues with deep dives or technical work (upside down etc...)... like getting a mouth full of water... |
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“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake..." - George Orwell, 1984
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Originally Posted By heron163:
I had a US Divers Royal Aquamaster... no bubbles in your face you may notice some issues with deep dives or technical work (upside down etc...)... like getting a mouth full of water... View Quote However, I do clear prior to doing anything strenuous to be sure I got all the water out. On your back it will really want to free flow if you let it. Head down, a little stiff. Nothing that cannot be managed. Not proclaiming myself an expert on these, but I have numerous hours on the DAM and SCUBA. Have not had the SCUBA deep, but I have used the DAM at 90ish locally on slightrox. Obviously rec dives. Not a techie, so will not speak to dives much deeper. The Mistral (single stage like the SCUBA) was the favored DH reg for the early Cousteau teams, as it was simpler and not as fusy as the RAAM. I have heard stories from old Navy divers of the RAAM being too sensitive to drops resulting in free flows. This, to me though, sounds like a reg adjusted to 'hot'. |
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
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Yep and 18 lb wing.
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
Did you do the silent bid on the red hoses?
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Nope, Luis sold me two sets of red hoses several months ago.
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
I found new j valves. Scibatoys has them but they are like 500!
They are also din convertible. |
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
Welp, went and stepped in it..... Bought a brand new Kraken. Ships in a week or so. If I like it, I'll use it for all my recreational diving which, admittedly, is few and far between. But I figured since I much prefer my rebreather, I might as well stick with the two-hoses approach to being a smug asshole.
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Hah! I never liked rebel scum anyway.
I ended up buying the VDH plate as well, and one of those olde timey single pane oval masks, just for the hell of it. I dive one plate exclusively for twins, rec singles, and my rebreathers, and I'd go crazy having to readjust it for double hose all the time so I figured I might as well dedicate one rig to it and be done. Got a free SPG with it too. Not that I need one, I've got a boatload floating around, but it's always nice when they throw in something extra. I'm excited to get it in the water. I figure if nothing else, it's weird and "helpful" tropical DM's will be less inclined to dick with it. Saves having the, "touch my shit again and I will drown you," conversation. It'll definitely be a warm water rig only. Board shorts and a rash guard type of thing for sure. |
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Good choice on his plate, you wouldn't like it using singles on a standard plate. The hump in the standard plate places the tank and more importantly, the can too far from your back.
If you are talking about the Sea Hunt Forever mask, that's what I have been using. Good value and it is rubber. Pic is somewhere above. |
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I got this guy:
https://vintagedoublehose.com/store/#!/60s-era-oval-mask-US-Divers-style/p/8327186/category=1935352 Hopefully it fits! |
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Same one. He must save the Sea Hunt Forever packaging for when it is close to the event lol
L'Odyssee is streaming now on Netflix if there are any Cousteau era fans reading. |
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Originally Posted By bap:
Took a mandatory break after an undeserved hit, but had been working on stuff while I wait it out. Got a couple of hours in the past couple of weeks with more to come. Just picked up this odd MKVI and a Star BM today. Fitting as they are from about the same time period. The MkVI is unusual due to the pneumatic yoke. There was a fatality blamed on this unit and a lawsuit won. Product discontinued long ago. Might dive it as configured or convert to regular yoke. I wiill put the guts of my BA in this second as the chrome is pristine. The SPG will be put to use as well. Not bad for $15 https://s26.postimg.cc/hk2mdh9y1/20180211_145658.jpg View Quote Do the s wing poppet upgrade. |
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
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I put g-250v knobs on mine to lighten them a bit. The old knobs have no lightening cuts and a solid center.
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
I don't know if this video is of interest to anyone, but I remembered seeing this thread so I thought I would share it.
Youtube Video |
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^Good video for those looking at getting into it, pros and cons when mingled in with modern dive environment.
His video on the history of them shows his impressive collection. |
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