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Supercompressor article: http://www.supercompressor.com/gear/50-us-states-as-independent-countries-california-texas-who-would-survive-as-nations It’s probably a good thing that the United States is, well, united. Though the average size of a US state (78,000 square miles) is larger than a huge chunk of European countries, the individual pearls of our union might not fare so well out on their own. Just look at the former U.S.S.R. But what if they were? Which states would prosper and which would stumble without the others lifting them up? Our MethodTo find out who would fare the best, we created as robust a rubric as we could, taking into account GDP, GDP per capita, location, likeability, food production, human development index, and history of independence. After assigning a weight to each of these criteria, we took each state’s raw score. One overachieving kid in the class broke the curve, so we re-curved the A+ based on the second best. So, where is your state on this list? <section class="mobile-ad-container"> </section> <section class="ad-container"> </section> 50. MississippiIndependence Grade: F It might be America's most religious state, but it ranks last in health, education, and income. Clearly, ole Miss is in bad shape already, and its solo career would be worse than Art Garfunkel's. But from the Confederate iconography in their flag, they might be fool enough to try it. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="0" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop second-position boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show hide" id="item-nid-4014241"> </section> 49. AlabamaIndependence Grade: F Despite having one of the longest waterways in America, they can't seem to figure out how to use it for an economic advantage. The South probably won't rise again. 48. KentuckyIndependence Grade: F Who wants to see how long a state can survive on Bourbon and chicken? <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="1" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-3979242"> </section> 47. OklahomaIndependence Grade: F Located in the heart of tornado alley, Oklahoma's location is its downfall. That and a stale economy. 46. IdahoIndependence Grade: D Potatoes? America just isn't that into carbs as we once were. 45. ArkansasIndependence Grade: D Despite giving birth to the unequivocally most awesome President in U.S. history, Arkansas' rough location and low GDP per person is a rough reality. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="2" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-4038077"> </section> 44. West VirginiaIndependence Grade: D What happens when they run out of trees to log or coal to mine? Or when coal becomes a total faux-pas? 43. MissouriIndependence Grade: D Low likability, probably due to all those damn puppy mills. And some serious civil unrest. There's only so much an ice-cold Bud Light can do. 42. MontanaIndependence Grade: D It may be a beautiful state, but those low living wages aren't too promising. Still would be cool to live in a country that looks like a dude's face. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="3" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-4004697"> </section> 41. TennesseeIndependence Grade: D At least Tennessee has a huge network of caves that we can all hide in when the other states inevitably invade. 40. New MexicoIndependence Grade: D You can't run a country if you're busy dealing with meth-addicted extraterrestrials. 39. LouisianaIndependence Grade: C- Crawfish, beignets, and Gumbo don't last too long as an export and you can only make so many seasons of True Detective. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="4" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-4036192"> </section> 38. MichiganIndependence Grade: C- They needed trillions of dollars of federal bail-out money, so they might be a little lost without the other 49. 37. ArizonaIndependence Grade: C- Who's going to fight an army comprised of peoples' grandparents? 36. IndianaIndependence Grade: C- There's corn. Millions and millions of corn bushels. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="5" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-4022563"> </section> 35. NevadaIndependence Grade: C- They've got Vegas...and not much else. By all intents and purposes, Nevada is one unihabitable desert. Viva Las Vegas! 34. OhioIndependence Grade: C- This was surprising, you'd think Ohio could handle itself without the "Federal Government." 33. South CarolinaIndependence Grade: C- Palmettos and poverty. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="6" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-4006262"> </section> 32. UtahIndependence Grade: C- Exporting salt isn't going to pay for those black suits. 31. North DakotaIndependence Grade: C- The only state colder than North Dakota is Alaska and Alaska is basically Russia. ND's low GDP and underwhelming location doesn't bode well. 30. WyomingIndependence Grade: C- Here's the debate—they've got the land mass, but Wyoming has the lowest population at just over 500,000. Tourism board might let it survive though. 29. GeorgiaIndependence Grade: C You can't build a sustainable economy on delicious peaches and pleasant accents, y'all. How did these guys do last time they went rogue? Exactly. 28. FloridaIndependence Grade: C Ah yes, America's penis. With a workforce of mainly retirees, the nations elephant graveyard/black sheep might have some growing pains on its own. 27. South DakotaIndependence Grade: C This state's one saving grace is Mt. Rushmore...which, uh, wasn't finished due to low funding. Ha. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="8" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-3981000"> </section> 26. KansasIndependence Grade: C This landlocked and tornado-friendly prairie state would make it undesirable to conquerors, but also to inhabitants. 25. NebraskaIndependence Rank: C+ Nebraska leads the nation in underground water supplies, but that's probably because it was once known as the "The Great American Desert." 24. MaineIndependence Grade: C+ 17 million acres of forest gives Maine a leg up on natural supplies...but also moose attacks. <section data-restrictions="{'keywords': 'culture'}" data-threeby-item="false" data-index="9" data-img-size="tmg-inline_related_item" data-bt-template="related_item" data-bt-count="1" data-bt-priority="2" data-bt-model="sc_article" class="related-item related-article desktop boomtrain boomtrain-section boomtrain-show" id="item-nid-4044069"> </section> 23. IowaIndependence Grade: C+ This former part of Louisiana makes a ton of its food, but is devastatingly landlocked. 22. WisconsinIndependence: B- Are you more or less inclined to support a nation that can whip up the best ice cream sundae on earth? And those cheddar exports will bring in that cheddar. 21. IllinoisIndependence Grade: B- As the first state to officially abolish slavery, we know Illinois has their mind in the right place. Coupled with a prime location next to Lake Michigan, it'd probably be fine. 20. HawaiiIndependence Grade: B Hawaii has its remote location from the rest of the contiguous states on its side and an army comprised completely of volcanoes. 19. OregonIndependence Grade: B You think you'd finally be allowed to pump your own gas if Oregon declared its independence? 18. North CarolinaIndependence Grade: B NC is the nation's leader in tobacco and textile production, making them a very profitable independent country that could flourish so long as they didn't dip too much into their tobacco reserves. 17. Rhode IslandIndependence Grade: B Despite being the smallest state in the country, Rhode Island has a killer seaside location for launching ships and/or catching rays. 16. AlaskaIndependence Grade: B Alaska has it all: land mass, location, and an average temperature akin to a warm night in Russia. Not to mention a ton of oil. 15. ColoradoIndependence Grade: B They've got the Air Force academy tucked in Colorado Springs and the Rocky Mountains to thwart incoming invaders. Boulder would become America's Amsterdam, except the bikes would be carbon and you would be a mile higher. 14. MinnesotaIndependence Grade: B Did you know the 4.2 million square foot Mall of America can fit 32 Boeing 747s? If it was filled to capacity, it would be Minnesota's third largest city. They've got the mall game on lock down. If they upped their sales tax game, they'd rake it in. 13. New HampshireIndependence Grade: B FACT: New Hampshire was the first colony to declare its independence from the Crown, making it a trailblazer in freedom. With a motto "Live Free Or Die," they might take things a bit too far. 12. PennsylvaniaIndependence Grade: B Pittsburgh is home to eight Fortune 500 companies and brings in over $600 billion annually, WTF does your state do? 11. VirginiaIndependence Grade: B+ More presidents have been born in Virginia than any other state in the nation, this place breeds freedom. 10. MarylandIndependence Grade: B+ As the birthplace of religious freedom and one of the highest household earnings in the country, we've got some well-funded independent thinkers. 9. DelawareIndependence Grade: B+ First state? Who the hell cares—the high population coupled with a high GDP percentage, they've got the brains and the manpower. 8. WashingtonIndependence Grade: A- With over 52 percent of the state covered by forest, Washington has nature on its side as well as a prime Pacific Coast location. Also, weed. 7. VermontIndependence Grade: A- Vermont may seem out of place so high on the list, considering residents are typically swamped smokin' weed and eating ice cream, but they produce a serious amount of hydro-electric power and crush the whole agriculture game. They also enjoyed 13 years of independence and have a movement in progress trying to bring it back. 6. TexasIndependence Grade: A- Honestly, everything's just bigger. Plus, they had some experience being on their own before. 5. New JerseyIndependence Grade: A Despite a severe likability rating, Jersey has the capital, strong shipping, and manufacturing industry to keep a country going. Bruce Springsteen would look great on their coins. 4. ConnecticutIndependence Grade: A Connecticut has the money, the resources, an aerospace & defense company, and every resident looks like they were the bad guy in The Karate Kid. Plus—if they were independent—they would have untraceable banks like Switzerland, making it a haven for dirty money. 3. MassachusettsIndependence Grade: A+ Solid public education and government, Taxachussetts has some serious Euro-vibes. They'll be fine on their own, and they have a history of demanding independence. 2. New YorkIndependence Grade: A+ It's not going out on a limb to comment on New York's ability to come out on top at all times...not counting that brief period in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The money's there, the jobs are there, and they have the port and the rest of the state to run to if Manhattan goes under water. 1. CaliforniaIndependence Grade: A+++ I mean, who's surprised here? California's got those stats on their side: GDP, location, food production, and they're "hella" likable. Plus, they were never part of the evil British empire to begin with. --------------------------------------------- I predict butthurt in this thread. |
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Cut off California water and electricity that was a product of the federal government and it would dry up and blow away.
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Giving a state with no freedoms a high independence grade is just retarded. You don't see companies flocking to the top 2 states.
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So the top five are solidly left states?
No agenda there, no way. (FWIW, I agree, Alabama wouldn't be worth a fuck for an independent state. ) |
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If Alaska ever became independent the Russians or Chinese would invade us.
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I'd think Ohio would fare far better than as listed. We've got a good mix of industry and agriculture, and an international border.
Why am I unsurprised that the top ten is littered with progressive states? |
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Lol, lib pipe dream! Almost half of CA would fight on the side of TX if a war broke out.
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Texas would rapidly devolve into a poor, corrupt third-world nation, run with an iron hand by conservative oil billionaires and right-wing Christians. The wealthy would allow millions of illegal workers to come in and displace Texans (cheap wages). Health care? Worker Safety? Education? Investment in public works? President-for-Life Rafael Teodoro "Ted" Cruz doesn't care!
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How is Iowa landlocked?
You have two major river systems on each side of it and with the Mississippi you can pretty much go anywhere if you have a boat. Reading it they discuss lots of pot smoking and slavery so this list has lost any real value. And a big ass mall gets you higher on the list then other states. Sure it brings in a shitload of cash but still |
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What a joke! Looks more like a ranking of restrictive laws and regulations plus high taxes.
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Texas would rapidly devolve into a poor, corrupt third-world nation, run with an iron hand by conservative oil billionaires and right-wing Christians. The wealthy would allow millions of illegal workers to come in and displace Texans (cheap wages). Health care? Worker Safety? Education? Investment in public works? President-for-Life Rafael Teodoro "Ted" Cruz doesn't care! View Quote "lol" |
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Lol CT.
4th Bullshit. 6 FSA centers and full of moral weaklings. |
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Texas would rapidly devolve into a poor, corrupt third-world nation, run with an iron hand by conservative oil billionaires and right-wing Christians. The wealthy would allow millions of illegal workers to come in and displace Texans (cheap wages). Health care? Worker Safety? Education? Investment in public works? President-for-Life Rafael Teodoro "Ted" Cruz doesn't care! View Quote lol |
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"lol" View Quote No shit. Leftist drivel. BTW, this is all they could come up with for NM? 40. New Mexico Independence Grade: D You can't run a country if you're busy dealing with meth-addicted extraterrestrials. Yeah, Im not taking you seriously when your argument is based on pop culture rather then statistics. |
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Okay, go ahead and completely ignore Nevadas mineral resources. We're only the 4th largest gold producer in the world.
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1. California Independence Grade: A+++
I mean, who's surprised here View Quote All the mouth breathing fools who get their "facts" from the General Discussion. |
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Arizona should be number one. We'd conquer California (and everyone else) for their land then boot all the pussies to Texas where they belong.
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WAIT!!! NUMBER 1 DOESN'T ALLOW 30 ROUND MAGAZINES!!!!!!!?!?!?!!?!?!!?! THERE IS NO WAY THAT STATE COULD SURVIVE A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!!!!!!! THIS RANKING IS STUPID!!!!!
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A few years ago California rank 3rd in the world if it was an independent nation.
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All the mouth breathing fools who get their "facts" from the General Discussion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
1. California Independence Grade: A+++
I mean, who's surprised here All the mouth breathing fools who get their "facts" from the General Discussion. California's greatest champion is here! |
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I bet the window that list was written in was flanked by Moveon.org on one side and man-on-man bukake videos on the other
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I think people here are confusing "Independent" with freedom. This is a ranking of states that could survive on their own given the resources they have.
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35. Nevada Independence Grade: C- They've got Vegas...and not much else. By all intents and purposes, Nevada is one unihabitable desert. Viva Las Vegas! Hey, we got what surrounding states didn't want, so yeah it's pretty pitiful. |
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" taking into account GDP, GDP per capita, location, likeability, food production, human development index, and history of independence."
But somehow in that list they left off buying new 30-round magazines. And all that math is just science and numbers and stuff. |
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Quoted: <section class="mobile-ad-container"> Supercompressor article: http://www.supercompressor.com/gear/50-us-states-as-independent-countries-california-texas-who-would-survive-as-nations It’s probably a good thing that the United States is, well, united. Though the average size of a US state (78,000 square miles) is larger than a huge chunk of European countries, the individual pearls of our union might not fare so well out on their own. Just look at the former U.S.S.R. But what if they were? Which states would prosper and which would stumble without the others lifting them up? Our MethodTo find out who would fare the best, we created as robust a rubric as we could, taking into account GDP, GDP per capita, location, likeability, food production, human development index, and history of independence. After assigning a weight to each of these criteria, we took each state’s raw score. One overachieving kid in the class broke the curve, so we re-curved the A+ based on the second best.So, where is your state on this list? View Quote </section><section class="ad-container"> </section> 50. MississippiIndependence Grade: FIt might be America's most religious state, but it ranks last in health, education, and income. Clearly, ole Miss is in bad shape already, and its solo career would be worse than Art Garfunkel's. But from the Confederate iconography in their flag, they might be fool enough to try it. 49. AlabamaIndependence Grade: FDespite having one of the longest waterways in America, they can't seem to figure out how to use it for an economic advantage. The South probably won't rise again. 48. KentuckyIndependence Grade: FWho wants to see how long a state can survive on Bourbon and chicken? 47. OklahomaIndependence Grade: FLocated in the heart of tornado alley, Oklahoma's location is its downfall. That and a stale economy. 46. IdahoIndependence Grade: DPotatoes? America just isn't that into carbs as we once were. 45. ArkansasIndependence Grade: DDespite giving birth to the unequivocally most awesome President in U.S. history, Arkansas' rough location and low GDP per person is a rough reality. 44. West VirginiaIndependence Grade: DWhat happens when they run out of trees to log or coal to mine? Or when coal becomes a total faux-pas? 43. MissouriIndependence Grade: DLow likability, probably due to all those damn puppy mills. And some serious civil unrest. There's only so much an ice-cold Bud Light can do. 42. MontanaIndependence Grade: DIt may be a beautiful state, but those low living wages aren't too promising. Still would be cool to live in a country that looks like a dude's face. 41. TennesseeIndependence Grade: DAt least Tennessee has a huge network of caves that we can all hide in when the other states inevitably invade. 40. New MexicoIndependence Grade: DYou can't run a country if you're busy dealing with meth-addicted extraterrestrials. 39. LouisianaIndependence Grade: C-Crawfish, beignets, and Gumbo don't last too long as an export and you can only make so many seasons of True Detective. 38. MichiganIndependence Grade: C-They needed trillions of dollars of federal bail-out money, so they might be a little lost without the other 49. 37. ArizonaIndependence Grade: C-Who's going to fight an army comprised of peoples' grandparents? 36. IndianaIndependence Grade: C-There's corn. Millions and millions of corn bushels. 35. NevadaIndependence Grade: C-They've got Vegas...and not much else. By all intents and purposes, Nevada is one unihabitable desert. Viva Las Vegas! 34. OhioIndependence Grade: C-This was surprising, you'd think Ohio could handle itself without the "Federal Government." 33. South CarolinaIndependence Grade: C-Palmettos and poverty. 32. UtahIndependence Grade: C-Exporting salt isn't going to pay for those black suits. 31. North DakotaIndependence Grade: C-The only state colder than North Dakota is Alaska and Alaska is basically Russia. ND's low GDP and underwhelming location doesn't bode well. 30. WyomingIndependence Grade: C-Here's the debate—they've got the land mass, but Wyoming has the lowest population at just over 500,000. Tourism board might let it survive though. 29. GeorgiaIndependence Grade: CYou can't build a sustainable economy on delicious peaches and pleasant accents, y'all. How did these guys do last time they went rogue? Exactly. 28. FloridaIndependence Grade: CAh yes, America's penis. With a workforce of mainly retirees, the nations elephant graveyard/black sheep might have some growing pains on its own. 27. South DakotaIndependence Grade: CThis state's one saving grace is Mt. Rushmore...which, uh, wasn't finished due to low funding. Ha. 26. KansasIndependence Grade: CThis landlocked and tornado-friendly prairie state would make it undesirable to conquerors, but also to inhabitants. 25. NebraskaIndependence Rank: C+Nebraska leads the nation in underground water supplies, but that's probably because it was once known as the "The Great American Desert." 24. MaineIndependence Grade: C+17 million acres of forest gives Maine a leg up on natural supplies...but also moose attacks. 23. IowaIndependence Grade: C+This former part of Louisiana makes a ton of its food, but is devastatingly landlocked. 22. WisconsinIndependence: B-Are you more or less inclined to support a nation that can whip up the best ice cream sundae on earth? And those cheddar exports will bring in that cheddar. 21. IllinoisIndependence Grade: B-As the first state to officially abolish slavery, we know Illinois has their mind in the right place. Coupled with a prime location next to Lake Michigan, it'd probably be fine. 20. HawaiiIndependence Grade: BHawaii has its remote location from the rest of the contiguous states on its side and an army comprised completely of volcanoes. 19. OregonIndependence Grade: BYou think you'd finally be allowed to pump your own gas if Oregon declared its independence? 18. North CarolinaIndependence Grade: BNC is the nation's leader in tobacco and textile production, making them a very profitable independent country that could flourish so long as they didn't dip too much into their tobacco reserves. 17. Rhode IslandIndependence Grade: BDespite being the smallest state in the country, Rhode Island has a killer seaside location for launching ships and/or catching rays. 16. AlaskaIndependence Grade: BAlaska has it all: land mass, location, and an average temperature akin to a warm night in Russia. Not to mention a ton of oil. 15. ColoradoIndependence Grade: BThey've got the Air Force academy tucked in Colorado Springs and the Rocky Mountains to thwart incoming invaders. Boulder would become America's Amsterdam, except the bikes would be carbon and you would be a mile higher. 14. MinnesotaIndependence Grade: BDid you know the 4.2 million square foot Mall of America can fit 32 Boeing 747s? If it was filled to capacity, it would be Minnesota's third largest city. They've got the mall game on lock down. If they upped their sales tax game, they'd rake it in. 13. New HampshireIndependence Grade: BFACT: New Hampshire was the first colony to declare its independence from the Crown, making it a trailblazer in freedom. With a motto "Live Free Or Die," they might take things a bit too far. 12. PennsylvaniaIndependence Grade: BPittsburgh is home to eight Fortune 500 companies and brings in over $600 billion annually, WTF does your state do? 11. VirginiaIndependence Grade: B+More presidents have been born in Virginia than any other state in the nation, this place breeds freedom. 10. MarylandIndependence Grade: B+As the birthplace of religious freedom and one of the highest household earnings in the country, we've got some well-funded independent thinkers. 9. DelawareIndependence Grade: B+First state? Who the hell cares—the high population coupled with a high GDP percentage, they've got the brains and the manpower. 8. WashingtonIndependence Grade: A-With over 52 percent of the state covered by forest, Washington has nature on its side as well as a prime Pacific Coast location. Also, weed. 7. VermontIndependence Grade: A-Vermont may seem out of place so high on the list, considering residents are typically swamped smokin' weed and eating ice cream, but they produce a serious amount of hydro-electric power and crush the whole agriculture game. They also enjoyed 13 years of independence and have a movement in progress trying to bring it back. 6. TexasIndependence Grade: A-Honestly, everything's just bigger. Plus, they had some experience being on their own before. 5. New JerseyIndependence Grade: ADespite a severe likability rating, Jersey has the capital, strong shipping, and manufacturing industry to keep a country going. Bruce Springsteen would look great on their coins. 4. ConnecticutIndependence Grade: AConnecticut has the money, the resources, an aerospace & defense company, and every resident looks like they were the bad guy in The Karate Kid. Plus—if they were independent—they would have untraceable banks like Switzerland, making it a haven for dirty money. 3. MassachusettsIndependence Grade: A+Solid public education and government, Taxachussetts has some serious Euro-vibes. They'll be fine on their own, and they have a history of demanding independence. 2. New YorkIndependence Grade: A+It's not going out on a limb to comment on New York's ability to come out on top at all times...not counting that brief period in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The money's there, the jobs are there, and they have the port and the rest of the state to run to if Manhattan goes under water. 1. CaliforniaIndependence Grade: A+++I mean, who's surprised here? California's got those stats on their side: GDP, location, food production, and they're "hella" likable. Plus, they were never part of the evil British empire to begin with. --------------------------------------------- I predict butthurt in this thread. Typical "southern states suck" hit piece. As for louisiana... How well do you think a series of independent states would do it we blocked the port of New Orleans or charged a tarrif for every barge to pass through our part of the Mississippi. Other than that we suck at education and infrastructure. But we have out food |
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I'd think Ohio would fare far better than as listed. We've got a good mix of industry and agriculture, and an international border. Why am I unsurprised that the top ten is littered with progressive states? View Quote I was VERY surprised to see OH as low as it was. I wasn't expecting to be in the top 5 or anything, but at least the top half. |
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