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Posted: 11/1/2020 3:10:21 AM EDT
I don’t trust our governments ability or willingness to stop leftists from making life extremely difficult for Americans.
It still, and maybe more every day, seems a good idea to stack food as deep as you can afford. |
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Interestingly enough the wife and I were talking about this after a trip to Costco today.
Saw no less than 10 freezers go out the door during that time. Pretty much every single cart had TP, paper towels and several cases of water. Lots of rice, beans and flour too. Checked stock on those items as we wandered and sure enough it didn't look like there was enough to last the rest of the day. We're pretty well stocked, but the wife agreed to spend some time down in our storage to inventory, organize and see what we can bulk up on. Definitely planning on grabbing more rice, beans, yeast and flour. ETA: Our SHTF stuff is separate from our 'regular' food storage. We have a bunch of the freeze dried buckets (think Wise Company, Patriot Supply, etc.) that are strictly grab n go designated. Go bags are packed with MREs as well, we could go 30-45 days on what we have in grab n go gear depending on how far we want to stretch things. This makes it easier to rotate stock around, since we're more apt to buy the type of stuff we'll typically use for food storage. |
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I'm not too worried about shitbags in NYC and Chicago and SF cutting my food supplies.
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I got my wife to stock up before the Covid panic hit. We have used some of it cause we bought most of what we use. I can’t convince her again due to the election.
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@eesmith advised stocking up on food and fuel in her podcast. I did today, I have about 2 months of food stocked after today's Costco run.
https://open.spotify.com/show/2hkL95tgNvapO7FeDj52F3 |
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Finally convinced my better half. Picked up 75# morevrice and 15# more beans today.
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Besides war time or the great depression, when has food ever been scarce in the US?
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Quoted: Besides war time or the great depression, when has food ever been scarce in the US? View Quote EXACTLY. I was in the middle of the LA Riots, the big earthquake, the fires, and the fucking stores were all open like normal. Yeah, you’re really gonna need 200#s of beans stored up. Fuck, people in Sarajevo probably didnt need it. |
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As long as you're rotating stocks so you're not wasting food/money by throwing stuff away, there's no good reason not to keep an emergency stockpile. None. Even in relatively peaceful times.
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I'm good.
Americans are fat anyways. Can't hurt to go on a diet. |
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Have a Major Hurricane Supply, and since thankfully 'Space City' has avoided any hits or floods this season, I'm still pretty well stocked at the Hammer Haus.
Not a Mormon, but a big fan of their plan that every family should have months of food stocked up. Way too many super market - corner store EBT FSA'ers who if the trucks don't run & computer don't release their payments, they don't eat. THAT is where the Trouble will come from... BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: My dad has always been one for old folksy sayings. There's an appropriate one for this discussion Better to have and not need than need and not have View Quote Considering how ridiculously cheap bulk food is - I'd be inclined to agree. It's no different from any other form of insurance: You're paying for peace of mind, knowing full well that you probably won't need it. |
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Quoted: I don’t trust our governments ability or willingness to stop leftists from making life extremely difficult for Americans. It still, and maybe more every day, seems a good idea to stack food as deep as you can afford. View Quote Good for you, just create more panic. |
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If you take meds don’t forget them. Also remember the four legged family member, Rover going to eat rice and beans? Dry food can be cheap.
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And what are y'all gonna do when your food stores run out?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but you need to think beyond that. Think of what you can grow and harvest in your yard, or even your own house/apartment. Things like alfalfa sprouts are delicious, nutritious, and can be grown indoors with only water. Make sure you can harvest seeds from your crop, this means no hybrids, as usually hybrids seeds are infertile. Think beyond two months, and no, its unlikely *most* of you will find a deer, or return from looking for one if a civil war or something big does happen. |
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Two reasons.
1. Some leftists are planning, or at least claiming, to disrupt the supply chain. Can they? Yeah, in some places. 2. Why plan on shopping during a hurricane, flood, fire or riots? Having a little food let’s you stay home and enjoy Netflix instead of playing Mad Max. |
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Quoted: And what are y'all gonna do when your food stores run out? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but you need to think beyond that. Think of what you can grow and harvest in your yard, or even your own house/apartment. Things like alfalfa sprouts are delicious, nutritious, and can be grown indoors with only water. Make sure you can harvest seeds from your crop, this means no hybrids, as usually hybrids seeds are infertile. Think beyond two months, and no, its unlikely *most* of you will find a deer, or return from looking for one if a civil war or something big does happen. View Quote Noone is disagreeing with you The food stores are a stopgap measure. Let's say that SHTF in December. Noone is growing anything until spring in that scenario. You need something to get you through the cold dark months. And rightfully, stored seeds and such without the experience of what to do with them isn't enough either. You need some practical experience on how to sustain yourself outside of going to the local grocery store if it's a real world collapse |
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We've got enough of everything to go 3 months or so without leaving home. If SHTF to a degree beyond that we're all screwed anyway.
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Nothing going to happen - they are scared shitless.
If they riot it will be in the obvious places. |
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80k acres of hogs, deer, turkey, sandhill cranes, cows.
60k of night vision shit. Closets full of #10 cans 700 gallons treated water meh ETA: and a pissed off attitude |
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I have enough frozen pizzas, ammo, and genny fuel to last through the dark winter.
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I'm with TC556Guy. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
But that's just me. |
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Controlling the food supply is probably the most effective, direct way to control human beings.
When they want us to comply with something, they will make food scarce. "Wear the mask, or no going into the grocery store." "Get the vaccine, or you can't keep your job or go to school." Eventually it will be: "Submit to the new rulers and bow down and worship them, reject your Christianity, or take a trip to the camps." The masks are evil. They are literally a tool to train people to accept slavery. If only more people could see them for what they are, and where this is all leading us... This is why we should be self-sufficient, live in small, tightly-knit, ideologically homogeneous communities, grow our own food, raise our own animals, and generally not need the government for anything. Self-sufficiency is freedom. |
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Quoted: @eesmith advised stocking up on food and fuel in her podcast. I did today, I have about 2 months of food stocked after today's Costco run. https://open.spotify.com/show/2hkL95tgNvapO7FeDj52F3 View Quote Thanks for posting this. I wasn’t aware Erin had a podcast, I’ll check it out. The topics look very interesting, especially the Bolivian revolution series. If anyone is interested in this topic, there was a thread from earlier this year I had bookmarked. Very interesting perspective from a member who experienced it first hand, and something I hope we never experience https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/The-Great-Bolivian-Bogaloo-of-2019/5-2336897/ |
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Quoted: Besides war time or the great depression, when has food ever been scarce in the US? View Quote Perhaps your area didn’t feel the hit this spring/summer, but our AO was out of many things while the supply chains struggled to keep up. We definitely had a meat/chicken shortage due to Covid sweeping through various meat packing plants. We were glad to have frozen chicken breasts for in the freezer Edit: to be clear, our “preps” (if you want to call them that) won’t get us through a war or famine, but will help fill in supply chain gaps for several weeks if the Dems start fear mongering again |
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Quoted: Noone is disagreeing with you The food stores are a stopgap measure. Let's say that SHTF in December. Noone is growing anything until spring in that scenario. You need something to get you through the cold dark months. And rightfully, stored seeds and such without the experience of what to do with them isn't enough either. You need some practical experience on how to sustain yourself outside of going to the local grocery store if it's a real world collapse View Quote Not disagreeing with you in any way BUT to take your stance one step further for the non believers.... What happens if you have a bum crop in the following spring/summer due to a late or early frost (OR summer of 1816)? Old country houses had, wood sheds, chicken coops, all those glass jars, large pantries and root cellars for a reason! My Dad told me in the depression, you could hardly find a deer or wild creature anywhere as they had mostly been eaten. The only way they survived was eating what they could grow. For the beans and rice crowd, think about "food fatigue". |
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One of the best things about living in the sticks is my private 12 acre lake. It's hard to find, difficult to get to and paid for. I can , EVERY DAY, walk fifty yards and catch a mess of crappie or a bass big enough to feed us both. Ducks on the pond every day. Frogs are easy to gig. Pigs feed around the edges of the lake. Deer between us and the lake.
I'm not really a "prepper" but we have an enormous stockpile of all things we might need. Meds, fuel, ammo, parts, tools, skills and more and more. I started using a dehydrator a few years back with good success. Freezers are full. Whole house generator with auto-transfer switch. Additional gas fired gensets in the shop. It's probably time to do a battery buy though as we use quite a few. We keep at least five full propane bottles at all times anyway. Gate is locked at all times and we have the ability to physically blockade the entrance to our place. Firewood supply is set for this year and we'll be getting more for next year as the weather cools. 120 acres of timber for fuel. For a couple our ages we're in good shape physically and barring serious accidents we're pretty self sufficient medically. Our med kit is good through sutures and more. Weapons/ammo check. Transportation is good with 4x4 and a CanAm for work around our place. Tractor is two years old with only 40 hours on it. Diesel storage is good. Chainsaws are in top condition along with a full compliment of Stihl tools. I guess we'll just keep on keeping on. My best asset is my wife. Strong and sure, after 45 years I suspect we'll be ok. |
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I've 28 acres of woods and a pond full of food. Wife won't like it, but we won't starve.
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I follow Grainmaker Mills on FB (bought one of their mills back at the start of the pandemic) and they have been shipping mills by the pallet recently.
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