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High speed holstering is stoopid.
Even in a high stress/emergency situation holstering a pistol is something you should pay attention to. But I don't own/like GLOCKS, so my opinion is irrelevant |
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I do like placing my thumb on the hammer on hammer fired guns or under the safety on a 1911. I would be interested in trying this on my g19.
I wonder how open the back of the gun is with this installed. |
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It's needed because Glock is the only polymer striker fired pistol on the planet with a trigger tab, striker block and partially cocked striker.
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Well, that changes my opinion completely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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That has exactly zero to do with why this was invented. Zero. But derp on, folks... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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A revolver does not have a short light trigger and has an actual hammer that moves if the trigger is moving. Your argument is frivolous. This corrects what has long been a flaw in the glock design. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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How many of you guys that think this is a good idea complain about the XD grip safety? Putting your thumb on the back of the slide on an XD achieves the same thing. Just go buy an XD or a gun with a manual safety if you're scared of carrying a loaded Glock.
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Toss that AR15 in the trash then. Then toss that Glock in too for having the "safe" action trigger as well...because a safety is a device that can fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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There is so much Dunning-Kruger in this thread. The Gadget is a great idea. It has been tested for a long time. There is no down side. View Quote In theory anyways. |
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There is one downside in theory. If you are a total knucklehead and don't properly engage the thing with your thumb and the trigger catches while holstering, you've compounded your Glock Leg with Gadget Thumb. In theory anyways. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There is so much Dunning-Kruger in this thread. The Gadget is a great idea. It has been tested for a long time. There is no down side. In theory anyways. |
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Unfortunately it's too hard for some. Except for being an extra layer of safety while instructing, as Sylvan mentioned, it's just another crutch to aid those that should not be handling firearms in the first place. http://i.imgur.com/ALB4O.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Keep your fucking finger off the trigger. How hard is it? http://i.imgur.com/ALB4O.jpg |
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The Glock trigger is a flaw? View Quote Of course the glock hit the right price point. Free with trade in is a great price and hard to argue with. |
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So you don't carry a Glock then. It has a safety in it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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A revolver does not have a short light trigger and has an actual hammer that moves if the trigger is moving. Your argument is frivolous. This corrects what has long been a flaw in the glock design. View Quote |
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Yes, a stupid design for stupid people. The original design was for the military and never intended to be carried with a round in the chamber. It was fine for that method, but was stupidly adapted to chamber loaded carry because certain police chief's stupidly thought that their people were not capable of learning the decocking drill on better pistols available in the late 80s and early 90s. These same Chief's who thought a cocked and locked 1911 was a lawsuit waiting to happen with it's 5lb stock trigger pull, were just fine with glock's 5lb trigger pull. Of course the glock hit the right price point. Free with trade in is a great price and hard to argue with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Glock trigger is a flaw? Of course the glock hit the right price point. Free with trade in is a great price and hard to argue with. |
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That is not the backplate/selector I want. View Quote As to the OP, I'll pass. 1911, CZ, or Grand Power cocked and locked for me, thanks. |
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Holding a slide shut while firing a pistol won't hurt you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There is so much Dunning-Kruger in this thread. The Gadget is a great idea. It has been tested for a long time. There is no down side. In theory anyways. |
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That's not really a safety. It's a tactile feel device. not a fan of the thumb on back of slide thingy to reholster. View Quote On hammer guns, you can immediately feel if the hammer starts to draw back. Also, any blowback gun or small pistol with a weak mainspring (usually pocket guns, but some people carry things like the LCP on their belt) - thumb on the back of the slide helps ensure the gun stays in battery so you don't get dirt/lint inside the action, it will go bang when you have to draw it, etc. But those sorts of things are secondary benefits. The big reason is, even on striker guns, moving your thumb there breaks your firing grip without sacrificing much in terms of control on the weapon. Breaking your firing grip is a commitment to being done shooting, and so you can slow down a little bit now. Take your time to reholster, that sort of thing. It's not a shooting grip, that's the point. |
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Post video of you firing a Glock while holding the slide shut with your thumb. View Quote Here's some guy on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r4XpFYCaIo |
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Yes, a stupid design for stupid people. The original design was for the military and never intended to be carried with a round in the chamber. It was fine for that method, but was stupidly adapted to chamber loaded carry because certain police chief's stupidly thought that their people were not capable of learning the decocking drill on better pistols available in the late 80s and early 90s. These same Chief's who thought a cocked and locked 1911 was a lawsuit waiting to happen with it's 5lb stock trigger pull, were just fine with glock's 5lb trigger pull. Of course the glock hit the right price point. Free with trade in is a great price and hard to argue with. View Quote |
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The next time you go to the range, place your thumb behind the backplate and press the trigger.
The only thing that will happen is that the gun will fail to cycle. |
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Holding a slide shut while firing a pistol won't hurt you. View Quote ETA: Watched video. I'd still contend there is a difference between deliberately and carefully pressing your gloved thumb on the back to try to hold the slide in place, and lightly pressing on the back while holstering in a manner that is insufficient to engage the little gadget do-dad. |
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HappyCamel is correct. I've done it myself. It's easy. Here's some guy on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r4XpFYCaIo View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Post video of you firing a Glock while holding the slide shut with your thumb. Here's some guy on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r4XpFYCaIo Well damn! |
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Well, that changes my opinion completely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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It flops around on the back of the slide. You don't see how crap can get inside to the striker area? ETA: I can see very limited application for this doohickey. A training environment makes some sense. I don't think it's a great idea for general usage. View Quote |
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Post video of you firing a Glock while holding the slide shut with your thumb. View Quote Failed To Load Title |
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I will say that in all seriousness, I wouldn't be concerned about ripping my thumb off from the monsterous forces unleashed by the 9mm cartridge, nor the risk of gunk getting in my backplate and causing failure to fire. It's not like the Glock doesn't have tolerances in the slide you can't drive a truck through to begin with ya know, and reliability hasn't been their bugaboo or anything.
My biggest concern would be having to train to holster my firearm using a specific grip/technique only applicable to the Glock and really nothing else. If all you ever carry are Glocks, it probably makes sense. But if you carry other pistolas, I don't wanna have to holster one way for this and holster everything else normally. It would seem the need for the gadget is eliminated by just being more careful when you holster a Glock. |
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Honestly the only people who will buy this are probably gunners who already have the lowest probability of having a DA to begin with.
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How many of you guys that think this is a good idea complain about the XD grip safety? Putting your thumb on the back of the slide on an XD achieves the same thing. Just go buy an XD or a gun with a manual safety if you're scared of carrying a loaded Glock. View Quote 'Dis gun B guud ! |
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I find the idea of adding additional safeties repellent, and I think that the thought process that advocates them breeds complacency. View Quote |
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If this safety fails, explain how it effects the function of the pistol. View Quote 2) Debris could wedge into the "flipper" keeping it closed. This would lock up the trigger. 3) Debris could wedge into the "flipper" keeping it open. Now it no longer functions as intended and the guy that thinks he is safe to re-holster with his thumb on the slide still has a negligent discharge. If I get knocked to the dirt in a fight, the last thing I want is hinged door on the back of my slide waiting for a big clump of mud to enter it. |
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