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Quoted: Everyday, every season and every year from now on will the hottest on record. Duh Science is easy now. View Quote As far as the modeling goes, the one rule of modeling complex things is that the model is always wrong, the only question is how wrong. The fact that we only need to go back 100k years, which is a blink in geologic time, means we are still in the noisy variability of natural cycles. So if humans are having an influence it's only a fraction of the total change we are seeing. How big a fraction is anthropogenic is tough to determine when we don't fully understand all the non human variables. Basically we are observing a change and attempting to attribute all of it to human activity because that's how you get that sweet grant money. We are buying the result we want. Its not unbiased science it's market driven "science". They are producing the product that will sell. None of that means humans aren't having an impact, we definitely are. But the scope and scale are the critical data points and I see no reason to trust the scientific process in this era. It's been fully corrupted, in fact I'm more likely to trust data contrary to the consensus because there aren't market or social motivations driving the conclusions. It has fewer sources of bias. Doesn't matter. The western world are the only people that pay any attention to this and we aren't the problem. |
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Quoted: They don't even know how old the fucking pyramids are. They are continuing to speak out of their asses instead of being humbled from being so wrong about so much. View Quote Amazing that the writings on the Pyramids discuss so much of the things we still discuss today. Heck, I have a book series I got when the local library closed called "Annals of America", that are mostly private letters written going back about 500 years. A lot of the things the founding fathers discussed in private to one another could pass for GD posts today. We think we've come so far. |
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member that time cargo shipping emissions were made stricter (to have less sulfur output) and it actually helped heat the earth more? lol, i member
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Note the heat plumes in Antarctic and the one in Canada where the fires are. Recently arrived. Internal changes in the earth, not atmospheric. |
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Quoted: Isn't there a name for a logical fallacy where you intentionally choose a timeframe which enhances your hypothesis when a different timeframe would negate it? https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.54eb2e382373c44ba1785852d676833f?rik=ghe5uVHWH2Y9SA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.heritage.org%2fsites%2fdefault%2ffiles%2f%7e%2fmedia%2finfographics%2f2016%2fbg3119%2fbg-climate-science-chart-1-825.jpg&ehk=74LqWJkwWvs8UCrc%2bnWDKYRwtgNzT3SicIPSopusHkc%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0 View Quote Confirmation Bias. |
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Greta's tweet was right. So long comrades. Now ze bugs will feast on us.
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We had one winter where it reached -27 F for about a week. When spring rolled around, the local news kept reporting that it was our hottest winter ever with not a single day where the temps went subzero.
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Quoted: We had one winter where it reached -27 F for about a week. When spring rolled around, the local news kept reporting that it was our hottest winter ever with not a single day where the temps went subzero. View Quote See my post about gaslighting. They're trying to get you to doubt what you experienced so they can then replace your experience with their agenda. |
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Quoted: There were no widely available, accurate thermometers until well into the 1800s View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They had thermometers and kept records 100,000 years ago? There were no widely available, accurate thermometers until well into the 1800s I think you missed my sarcasm, or i missed yours. |
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My wife made burgers on July 4th.
It was the best burger I've had in 100,000 years! |
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Considering the planet is 4.5 billion years old, 100,000 years is barely even "anecdotal".
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It’s the climate version of rain gutter leaf-guard salesmen knocking on doors again.
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Quoted: They cherry pick the data to "prove" the point they want people to believe. Timeline of climate, in reverse order, in 1000 year increments. The first harsh mark on the left is 100,000 years and the timeframe the article mentions. That is also when the previous climate warming had started to drop. Had the article said 200,000 years they would be wrong. Had they said last 200 million years they would be wrong. Even though the current temp might be a peak right now it barely registers over the course of history. https://iceage.museum.state.il.us/sites/iceage/files/images/MIS%20timescale%20quaternary.jpg View Quote Thank you for that crisp concise response. 100K years is a really small sample size relative to planatary weather patterns. These assholes can proclaim with great certainty what temperature patterns were 100K years ago, but will struggle to get a 24 hour future prediction accurate. |
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Quoted: I call bs View Quote Exactly. Explain how they can tell what the "all time high temperature" was -- to within a degree, mind you, 10,000 years ago. Heck, I'll make it easy -- 1,000 years ago. This is just more "climate change" histrionics to try to generate fear and help push the marxists agenda. |
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Quoted: Complete BS. Most science has been ruined. View Quote This, since science is not long about seeking the truths, but what profit can be made instead. Read any findings in the last decade, and it's either complete shite theory (that will be disproved) and published to push someone else agenda for thier profit isntead. Simply, I put most current published scientific papers/findings with the number Zero, since not an actual value, but markers for no value instead. |
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Well, around here they can't get tomorrow's weather right. Why should I believe they can tell me what it was like 100,000 years ago till now?
Was it really that hot. I mowed the grass today between a little before 1 PM and 2 PM. Sweated a little bit riding around in circles. |
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July 4th was the loudest day this year since last year on July 4th. I am science.
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I was looking at local record temps for July. In the past 10 years, 1 record daily high has been set, but 12 record lows.
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NOAA, for its part, said that although it was seeing record warm surface temperatures being recorded at many locations across the globe, it could not "validate the methodology or conclusion of the University of Maine analysis."
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230707-world-daily-temperature-records-smashed-here-s-how-we-know |
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I just want to see the measurement tools and the written records over the past 100,000 years .
Not a recent guess based on some manipulated model. BS |
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Quoted: Between 100,000 and 10,000 years ago we were in a fuckin ice age. Not very hard to beat temperatures during that 90,000 years View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Between 100,000 and 10,000 years ago we were in a fuckin ice age. Not very hard to beat temperatures during that 90,000 years You are right do these damn fools not fact check themselves before posting BS lies The last glacial period began about 100,000 years ago and lasted until 25,000 years ago. |
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According to models the NOAA won't use because they suck.
All lies for the control narrative. |
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I am not a climate scientist. Heck, I'm old enough to remember when some scientiists were worried we were heading into another ice age (this was on the cover of Newsweek in 1975, Time in 1973 & 1979). So I admit I'm more than a little skeptical about the current climate hype, and information like this July 5 article from this Popular Science doesn't convince me that the Global Warming alrm needs to continue to sounded.
Monday July 3, 2023 was possibly the hottest day ever recorded by humans, according to preliminary data from the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer Project. The average global temperature reached 63.62 degrees Fahrenheit, beating out the previous record of 62.46 degrees set back in August 2016. According to some experts, this is yet another sign of the worsening global climate crisis. The Climate Reanalyzer is a common tool climate scientists often use to get a sense of the world’s temperatures. This data visualization model is based on a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) computer simulations intended to create forecasts and uses satellite data. Its predictions are based on using a weather tool for forecasting and not on the ground record keeping. View Quote |
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