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This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. View Quote Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Watching that sucker explode right after liftoff will be fun to watch.
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium View Quote Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? |
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GD- "It's kind of like wading through through slimy lake bed with your feet to find clams below the surface".
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
View Quote Looks like the russians had some pretty effective electronic warfare systems in the area. Ukraine really needs to come up with a Harpy/Harop drone equivalent to target electromagnetic emitters like jammers, comms gear, and radar. |
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Originally Posted By Aikibiker: Looks like the russians had some pretty effective electronic warfare systems in the area. Ukraine really needs to come up with a Harpy/Harop drone equivalent to target electromagnetic emitters like jammers, comms gear, and radar. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Aikibiker: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Looks like the russians had some pretty effective electronic warfare systems in the area. Ukraine really needs to come up with a Harpy/Harop drone equivalent to target electromagnetic emitters like jammers, comms gear, and radar. Israel has been a huge disappointment in this arena especially considering how long Iranian Shaheeds have been operating in Ukraine now and how much aid and support they receive from us. Giving us a few Harpys to reverse engineer would've gone a long way. |
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connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles
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Like I said, if it works, we'll see more of them. And it worked, Mk.3 survived multiple DPCIM hits. |
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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Originally Posted By Brok3n: Israel has been a huge disappointment in this arena especially considering how long Iranian Shaheeds have been operating in Ukraine now and how much aid and support they receive from us. Giving us a few Harpys to reverse engineer would've gone a long way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By Aikibiker: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Looks like the russians had some pretty effective electronic warfare systems in the area. Ukraine really needs to come up with a Harpy/Harop drone equivalent to target electromagnetic emitters like jammers, comms gear, and radar. Israel has been a huge disappointment in this arena especially considering how long Iranian Shaheeds have been operating in Ukraine now and how much aid and support they receive from us. Giving us a few Harpys to reverse engineer would've gone a long way. It shouldn't be to hard to make one. Some sort of broadband receiver that can be programmed to look for common frequencies used by Russian equipment, a pair of directional antennas, and some smart people to put it all together. I mean Ukraine already has HARM and Soviet era anti radiation missiles to reverse engineer, they do not need a Harpy. |
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Like I said, if it works, we'll see more of them. And it worked, Mk.3 survived multiple DPCIM hits. View Quote lol, It will be interesting to see the workaround. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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WSJ reporting on the death of Pro Russian Texan / Putin-lover Bentley ------------------------------------------------- Mystery Death of Texan Who Fought for Moscow Sparks Outrage in Russia Russell Bentley, a fixture of Russian propaganda who moved to Russian-occupied Ukraine in 2014, was found dead after detention by Russian soldiers By Yaroslav Trofimov Updated April 25, 2024 12:04 am ET Russell Bentley, a self-described “Donbass Cowboy,” joined Russian forces soon after they created a proxy state in eastern Ukraine in 2014. He quickly became one of Russian propaganda’s favorite Americans, receiving a Russian passport and a gig with state-run Sputnik TV. On April 8, the 64-year-old Austin native better known under his call sign “Texas” was detained by Russian soldiers in the city of Donetsk, occupied by Russia for the past decade, according to his wife. Eleven days later, he turned up dead. He is the latest in a string of figures involved in Russia’s 2014 takeover of parts of eastern Ukraine—dubbed the “Russian Spring”—who are now in their graves or behind bars. The circumstances behind Bentley’s disappearance are murky. But the incident has already caused outrage in Russian nationalist circles, with popular bloggers and commentators calling for an investigation and decrying what they called an official coverup. Russian ultranationalists, particularly those involved in the original fighting of 2014 and 2015 that killed 14,000 people in Donetsk and Luhansk, criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin for not doing even more to win the war in Ukraine. They have blasted the military establishment for its execution of the full-scale invasion. The Russian state, which initially focused on the liberal opposition, has increasingly turned the screws on the hypernationalist figures associated with the “Russian Spring” after the failed putsch by the Wagner paramilitary group of warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin, who pilloried Russia’s top generals as incompetent. The warlord and top Wagner leaders were killed in a plane bombing last year widely blamed on Russian security services. It isn’t clear whether Bentley’s death is part of that crackdown by security services, or an accidental result of the anti-American spy-mania fanned by the Russian state and the overall lawlessness reigning in Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine. “The authorities can no longer control the xenophobia that they are igniting themselves, and any foreigner has become an enemy a priori,” said Marat Gelman, a former senior executive of Russian state TV who is now an opponent of Putin’s regime. In any case, the fury at Bentley’s death among Russian nationalists is real. “It’s hard to understand who are ‘ours’ and who are ‘enemies.’ Just traitors and freaks at the steering wheel, doing what they want,” fumed Russian soldier and blogger Yegor Guzenko, who is known under his Telegram handle Thirteenth. “Texas was murdered! The way they murdered many of our brothers. The way they murdered Prigozhin and all others who tell the truth and honestly stand for Russia!” Bentley’s death shows that “human lives don’t matter much on the path to the great future,” and explains why “even very pro-Russian citizens [of Ukraine] rarely met Russia with flowers,” said Igor Dimitriev, a pro-Russian politician who moved to Russia from Odesa, Ukraine, in 2014. Oleg Tsaryov, a former Ukrainian lawmaker who became one of the main cheerleaders of the 2022 Russian invasion and was expected to become a key member, if not leader, of a Russian-installed regime in Kyiv at the time, was also upset. “If those guilty are not found and punished, prepare yourself for other affairs. And note that only the stories of media-famous personalities surface in the press—and how many stories of non-media-famous people are there that we don’t know about?” Tsaryov wrote on Telegram. Bentley was certainly famous in Russia. After moving to Donetsk in 2014, the self-proclaimed Communist married a local woman, Lyudmila, converted to Orthodox Christianity and frequently castigated America. President Barack Obama ran a “fascist government” controlled by oligarchs, Bentley said in an interview with Vice News in 2015 as he wore the Soviet red banner and the Lone Star of Texas on his uniform, adding that Russia is a much freer country. At the time, he was part of a rocket-propelled-grenade team of the Russian-backed Vostok battalion. “Heading West with the Liberators of Ukraine. We may stop in Kiev, we may stop on the English Channel. We may liberate the USA,” Bentley wrote on VKontakte, a Russian social-media platform, once Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Bentley was part of a trickle of Americans who joined Russia’s side in its war in Ukraine, often escaping personal troubles or the law. Since 2022, hundreds more Americans have traveled to Ukraine to join the Ukrainian military as volunteers, and several of them have died in combat. A former U.S. Army service member, Bentley ran as a third-party candidate in U.S. Senate elections in Minnesota in 1990, gaining 1.65% of the vote on a marijuana liberalization platform. He was later sentenced to five years on drug-trafficking charges, escaped near the end of his sentence and spent eight years as a fugitive before being captured by U.S. Marshals in Washington state to serve the remainder of his sentence. Bentley’s prolific social-media appearances have gained him a following on the pro-Putin fringe in America. He wasn’t the only American veteran to switch sides. Wilmer Puello-Mota, a former sergeant with the Massachusetts Air National Guard and a former city councilman in Holyoke, Mass., defected days before his January court appearance on child-pornography charges in Rhode Island. He appeared this month in a video shared by a Russian regional government, signing a contract to serve in the Russian military and describing how he had already fought as a volunteer against Ukrainian forces in the town of Avdiivka. “I was very fortunate…Everybody has been so kind, so supportive, just ready to help me move forward, and I want to help them now to continue the mission,” Puello-Mota said in the video. Puello-Mota’s lawyer told the Boston Globe that the former sergeant had planned to plead guilty in exchange for an 18-month prison sentence and having to register as a sex offender. Such American defectors with military backgrounds are very valuable for Russian propaganda that is casting the invasion of Ukraine as part of a global struggle to create a new world order. “To them this is a bigger spiritual war with the West in which the Russian spirit is somehow going to win out against the deleterious and degenerative evils of the capitalist West,” said Ian Garner, a scholar of Russian war propaganda at Queen’s University in Canada. “They are saying: We really are forming a new multipolar order, and America is breaking apart because Americans are choosing to come and work with us.” Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, posted on his social-media accounts that the Texas native was “harshly detained” by soldiers of Russia’s 5th Tank Brigade, based in Buryatia in the Russian Far East, after he traveled to cover the aftermath of a Ukrainian strike in Donetsk the afternoon of April 8. With rumors swirling that he had been mistaken for a spy after filming the area of the strike, Lyudmila said Bentley’s phone was in his car, and contained no footage taken in the area. On April 19, Russian official media figures such as Margarita Simonyan, editor in chief of the Russia Today TV network, which includes Sputnik, said Bentley “has fallen in Donetsk,” without specifying the cause. Local authorities in Donetsk also confirmed his death, citing a DNA analysis, and said they had opened an investigation. Aleksandr Khodakovsky, the commander of the Vostok battalion, initially published a post on Telegram demanding an “exemplary punishment of those who killed Russell Bentley,” adding that the military must show that it can maintain its own house in order and not just pursue critics. The post was quickly deleted, and Vostok said on its own Telegram channel that Khodakovsky had had to remove the comments because of his official position as head of special forces for the Russian National Guard in Donetsk. Khodakovsky is one of the few remaining original leaders of the “Russian Spring,” a Putin-backed military takeover of parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions after the Maidan revolution ousted Ukraine’s pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. Retired Russian intelligence colonel Igor Girkin, who sparked violence in the region as he took over the city of Slovyansk with a band of Russian veterans in 2014 and later served as defense minister in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, has been behind bars since July. A frequent critic of the way Russia has handled the invasion, he has been sentenced to four years imprisonment for “extremism.” Another well-known personality of the “Russian Spring,” Capt. Igor Mangushev, a far-right nationalist who once performed holding what he said was the skull of a Ukrainian soldier, was gunned down under mysterious circumstances in a part of the Luhansk region far from the front lines in February 2023. Yet another influential veteran of the 2014 war, fighter and popular blogger Andrey Morozov, was found dead in February this year after coming under military pressure to delete a post saying that the Russian military had lost 16,000 soldiers in its campaign to capture Avdiivka. His death was judged a suicide. The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine said it is aware of reports of Bentley’s death in Donetsk. “Whenever we learn of the death of a U.S. citizen in Ukraine, we seek to get in touch with the family and provide all possible consular assistance,” said embassy spokesman Chad Roedemeier. “But we generally don’t comment on specifics.” In the 2015 Vice News segment, journalist Simon Ostrovsky interviewed a Russian fighter serving alongside Bentley. “From a combat point of view, he is a very brave man,” the Russian said, adding that Bentley had taught him how to make tripwires. “How do you know he is not an American spy?” Ostrovsky asked. “You can tell just by looking at him,” the Russian responded as Bentley grinned, a cowboy hat atop his long gray hair. Write to Yaroslav Trofimov at [email protected] -------------------------------------------------- |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote I wish a few hundred Abrams firing APDS would arrive and put an end to this fad... |
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View Quote Looks like that subreddit deleted it but I'm assuming this is the one, due to the enormous badaboom. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1cc88ka/russian_bmp_shoots_at_treeline_then_gets/ |
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Prohibition doesn't work.
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Originally Posted By bikedamon: Looks like that subreddit deleted it but I'm assuming this is the one, due to the enormous badaboom. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1cc88ka/russian_bmp_shoots_at_treeline_then_gets/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bikedamon: Looks like that subreddit deleted it but I'm assuming this is the one, due to the enormous badaboom. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1cc88ka/russian_bmp_shoots_at_treeline_then_gets/ Yeah, that's it. Another perspective from 3 months ago: The old video. |
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Yeah, that's it. Another perspective from 3 months ago: The old video. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By bikedamon: Looks like that subreddit deleted it but I'm assuming this is the one, due to the enormous badaboom. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1cc88ka/russian_bmp_shoots_at_treeline_then_gets/ Yeah, that's it. Another perspective from 3 months ago: The old video. That’s a better angle imo, thanks. God damn, you wouldn’t think a BMP could explode so much. |
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Prohibition doesn't work.
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Russia captured this M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicle (ABV), with good view of a composite armor module
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium View Quote Russia...the land of milk and honey. Admired for fighting Nazism and Globohomo behavior. Sending 51 year old men into combat to die after 5 weeks training. At least his family will finally be able to buy a family car; one made in China. |
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Originally Posted By BillofRights: Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. |
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Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. also to shield their true identity -- safety -- security nobody wants to broadcast they are 'James J. Smith' (or slavic equivalent) in this war -- for obvious reasons |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
View Quote That's EXACTLY how I see it going down |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
View Quote With all that fighting going on, that farmer has plowed that field. Respect. |
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Just a stranger on the bus trying to find his way home.
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Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. Because I am not putting my name on the airways, or telling randoms we meet day to day anything they don't need to know. My name is already on tracking sites like most of us. Luckily mine is completely misspelled and a dead end. |
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073: WSJ reporting on the death of Pro Russian Texan / Putin-lover Bentley ------------------------------------------------- Mystery Death of Texan Who Fought for Moscow Sparks Outrage in Russia Russell Bentley, a fixture of Russian propaganda who moved to Russian-occupied Ukraine in 2014, was found dead after detention by Russian soldiers By Yaroslav Trofimov Updated April 25, 2024 12:04 am ET Russell Bentley, a self-described "Donbass Cowboy," joined Russian forces soon after they created a proxy state in eastern Ukraine in 2014. He quickly became one of Russian propaganda's favorite Americans, receiving a Russian passport and a gig with state-run Sputnik TV. On April 8, the 64-year-old Austin native better known under his call sign "Texas" was detained by Russian soldiers in the city of Donetsk, occupied by Russia for the past decade, according to his wife. Eleven days later, he turned up dead. He is the latest in a string of figures involved in Russia's 2014 takeover of parts of eastern Ukraine dubbed the "Russian Spring" who are now in their graves or behind bars. The circumstances behind Bentley's disappearance are murky. But the incident has already caused outrage in Russian nationalist circles, with popular bloggers and commentators calling for an investigation and decrying what they called an official coverup. Russian ultranationalists, particularly those involved in the original fighting of 2014 and 2015 that killed 14,000 people in Donetsk and Luhansk, criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin for not doing even more to win the war in Ukraine. They have blasted the military establishment for its execution of the full-scale invasion. The Russian state, which initially focused on the liberal opposition, has increasingly turned the screws on the hypernationalist figures associated with the "Russian Spring" after the failed putsch by the Wagner paramilitary group of warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin, who pilloried Russia's top generals as incompetent. The warlord and top Wagner leaders were killed in a plane bombing last year widely blamed on Russian security services. It isn't clear whether Bentley's death is part of that crackdown by security services, or an accidental result of the anti-American spy-mania fanned by the Russian state and the overall lawlessness reigning in Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine. "The authorities can no longer control the xenophobia that they are igniting themselves, and any foreigner has become an enemy a priori," said Marat Gelman, a former senior executive of Russian state TV who is now an opponent of Putin's regime. In any case, the fury at Bentley's death among Russian nationalists is real. "It's hard to understand who are 'ours' and who are 'enemies.' Just traitors and freaks at the steering wheel, doing what they want," fumed Russian soldier and blogger Yegor Guzenko, who is known under his Telegram handle Thirteenth. "Texas was murdered! The way they murdered many of our brothers. The way they murdered Prigozhin and all others who tell the truth and honestly stand for Russia!" Bentley's death shows that "human lives don't matter much on the path to the great future," and explains why "even very pro-Russian citizens [of Ukraine] rarely met Russia with flowers," said Igor Dimitriev, a pro-Russian politician who moved to Russia from Odesa, Ukraine, in 2014. Oleg Tsaryov, a former Ukrainian lawmaker who became one of the main cheerleaders of the 2022 Russian invasion and was expected to become a key member, if not leader, of a Russian-installed regime in Kyiv at the time, was also upset. "If those guilty are not found and punished, prepare yourself for other affairs. And note that only the stories of media-famous personalities surface in the press and how many stories of non-media-famous people are there that we don't know about?" Tsaryov wrote on Telegram. Bentley was certainly famous in Russia. After moving to Donetsk in 2014, the self-proclaimed Communist married a local woman, Lyudmila, converted to Orthodox Christianity and frequently castigated America. President Barack Obama ran a "fascist government" controlled by oligarchs, Bentley said in an interview with Vice News in 2015 as he wore the Soviet red banner and the Lone Star of Texas on his uniform, adding that Russia is a much freer country. At the time, he was part of a rocket-propelled-grenade team of the Russian-backed Vostok battalion. "Heading West with the Liberators of Ukraine. We may stop in Kiev, we may stop on the English Channel. We may liberate the USA," Bentley wrote on VKontakte, a Russian social-media platform, once Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Bentley was part of a trickle of Americans who joined Russia's side in its war in Ukraine, often escaping personal troubles or the law. Since 2022, hundreds more Americans have traveled to Ukraine to join the Ukrainian military as volunteers, and several of them have died in combat. A former U.S. Army service member, Bentley ran as a third-party candidate in U.S. Senate elections in Minnesota in 1990, gaining 1.65% of the vote on a marijuana liberalization platform. He was later sentenced to five years on drug-trafficking charges, escaped near the end of his sentence and spent eight years as a fugitive before being captured by U.S. Marshals in Washington state to serve the remainder of his sentence. Bentley's prolific social-media appearances have gained him a following on the pro-Putin fringe in America. He wasn't the only American veteran to switch sides. Wilmer Puello-Mota, a former sergeant with the Massachusetts Air National Guard and a former city councilman in Holyoke, Mass., defected days before his January court appearance on child-pornography charges in Rhode Island. He appeared this month in a video shared by a Russian regional government, signing a contract to serve in the Russian military and describing how he had already fought as a volunteer against Ukrainian forces in the town of Avdiivka. "I was very fortunate Everybody has been so kind, so supportive, just ready to help me move forward, and I want to help them now to continue the mission," Puello-Mota said in the video. Puello-Mota's lawyer told the Boston Globe that the former sergeant had planned to plead guilty in exchange for an 18-month prison sentence and having to register as a sex offender. Such American defectors with military backgrounds are very valuable for Russian propaganda that is casting the invasion of Ukraine as part of a global struggle to create a new world order. "To them this is a bigger spiritual war with the West in which the Russian spirit is somehow going to win out against the deleterious and degenerative evils of the capitalist West," said Ian Garner, a scholar of Russian war propaganda at Queen's University in Canada. "They are saying: We really are forming a new multipolar order, and America is breaking apart because Americans are choosing to come and work with us." Bentley's wife, Lyudmila, posted on his social-media accounts that the Texas native was "harshly detained" by soldiers of Russia's 5th Tank Brigade, based in Buryatia in the Russian Far East, after he traveled to cover the aftermath of a Ukrainian strike in Donetsk the afternoon of April 8. With rumors swirling that he had been mistaken for a spy after filming the area of the strike, Lyudmila said Bentley's phone was in his car, and contained no footage taken in the area. On April 19, Russian official media figures such as Margarita Simonyan, editor in chief of the Russia Today TV network, which includes Sputnik, said Bentley "has fallen in Donetsk," without specifying the cause. Local authorities in Donetsk also confirmed his death, citing a DNA analysis, and said they had opened an investigation. Aleksandr Khodakovsky, the commander of the Vostok battalion, initially published a post on Telegram demanding an "exemplary punishment of those who killed Russell Bentley," adding that the military must show that it can maintain its own house in order and not just pursue critics. The post was quickly deleted, and Vostok said on its own Telegram channel that Khodakovsky had had to remove the comments because of his official position as head of special forces for the Russian National Guard in Donetsk. Khodakovsky is one of the few remaining original leaders of the "Russian Spring," a Putin-backed military takeover of parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions after the Maidan revolution ousted Ukraine's pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. Retired Russian intelligence colonel Igor Girkin, who sparked violence in the region as he took over the city of Slovyansk with a band of Russian veterans in 2014 and later served as defense minister in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, has been behind bars since July. A frequent critic of the way Russia has handled the invasion, he has been sentenced to four years imprisonment for "extremism." Another well-known personality of the "Russian Spring," Capt. Igor Mangushev, a far-right nationalist who once performed holding what he said was the skull of a Ukrainian soldier, was gunned down under mysterious circumstances in a part of the Luhansk region far from the front lines in February 2023. Yet another influential veteran of the 2014 war, fighter and popular blogger Andrey Morozov, was found dead in February this year after coming under military pressure to delete a post saying that the Russian military had lost 16,000 soldiers in its campaign to capture Avdiivka. His death was judged a suicide. The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine said it is aware of reports of Bentley's death in Donetsk. "Whenever we learn of the death of a U.S. citizen in Ukraine, we seek to get in touch with the family and provide all possible consular assistance," said embassy spokesman Chad Roedemeier. "But we generally don't comment on specifics." In the 2015 Vice News segment, journalist Simon Ostrovsky interviewed a Russian fighter serving alongside Bentley. "From a combat point of view, he is a very brave man," the Russian said, adding that Bentley had taught him how to make tripwires. "How do you know he is not an American spy?" Ostrovsky asked. "You can tell just by looking at him," the Russian responded as Bentley grinned, a cowboy hat atop his long gray hair. Write to Yaroslav Trofimov at [email protected] -------------------------------------------------- View Quote Bad things happen to bad people. But speaking of which: Where are the posts by the usual GD "I'm just asking questions" crowd that posted about Gonzalo Lira's death? Shouldn't they be protesting loudly about the death of a patriotic American right about now? |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: Because I am not putting my name on the airways, or telling randoms we meet day to day anything they don't need to know. My name is already on tracking sites like most of us. Luckily mine is completely misspelled and a dead end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. Because I am not putting my name on the airways, or telling randoms we meet day to day anything they don't need to know. My name is already on tracking sites like most of us. Luckily mine is completely misspelled and a dead end. Nom de guerre is a very ancient tradition. Do you get to pick your own? Or is it more like fighter pilots, where it gets “assigned” to you whether you like it or not? |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: Not sure if I totally agree it will end it, but it will sure make it suck even more for russia. Bottom Line ATACMS is not a miracle weapon that ends the war, but it does deprive Russian fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft of any secure base area within 160 miles of the front line. If the unitary warhead ATACMS are released, the Kerch Strait Bridge and every railway bridge in Occupied Ukraine will be as good as gone. Transferring ATACMS to Ukraine marks a catastrophic defeat for the Ukraine policy championed by Jake Sullivan for the last two years. The strategy of timidity and giving Putin "off ramps" seems to have been replaced by the policy favored by France, Poland, and most of Europe of bringing this war to an acceptable close. View Quote And for the guys on the front line, they won't be facing the same level for glide bombing as they did before. If big numbers of patriots come through, it could be reduced to a non-issue |
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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Originally Posted By BillofRights: Nom de guerre is a very ancient tradition. Do you get to pick your own? Or is it more like fighter pilots, where it gets “assigned” to you whether you like it or not? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. Because I am not putting my name on the airways, or telling randoms we meet day to day anything they don't need to know. My name is already on tracking sites like most of us. Luckily mine is completely misspelled and a dead end. Nom de guerre is a very ancient tradition. Do you get to pick your own? Or is it more like fighter pilots, where it gets “assigned” to you whether you like it or not? A little of both. Initially most of us picked one. I have renamed recruits during training for the wrong reasons. |
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Convoy of mostly NATO equipment supplied to Ukraine presumably on the way to Moscow. Includes AMX-10 RC and a German panzer of some kind
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but the other tanks and BMP/MT-LB continued the assault. It looks as though some of the other tanks/vehicles may have been lost but others continued despite strikes by mines, FPVs, or other munitions. View Quote Part of the same attack above but cut out.
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Dang, there is room for improvement I guess.
Now there's a combat record to validate that. View Quote The thing being we aren't going to supply the er himars rounds because we just started working with them and production is next year. Bingo, but gmlrs in Ukraine doesn't miss by much so sdb shouldn't either under GPS jamming.
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: Bad things happen to bad people. But speaking of which: Where are the posts by the usual GD "I'm just asking questions" crowd that posted about Gonzalo Lira's death? Shouldn't they be protesting loudly about the death of a patriotic American right about now? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: WSJ reporting on the death of Pro Russian Texan / Putin-lover Bentley ------------------------------------------------- Mystery Death of Texan Who Fought for Moscow Sparks Outrage in Russia Russell Bentley, a fixture of Russian propaganda who moved to Russian-occupied Ukraine in 2014, was found dead after detention by Russian soldiers By Yaroslav Trofimov Updated April 25, 2024 12:04 am ET Russell Bentley, a self-described "Donbass Cowboy," joined Russian forces soon after they created a proxy state in eastern Ukraine in 2014. He quickly became one of Russian propaganda's favorite Americans, receiving a Russian passport and a gig with state-run Sputnik TV. On April 8, the 64-year-old Austin native better known under his call sign "Texas" was detained by Russian soldiers in the city of Donetsk, occupied by Russia for the past decade, according to his wife. Eleven days later, he turned up dead. He is the latest in a string of figures involved in Russia's 2014 takeover of parts of eastern Ukraine dubbed the "Russian Spring" who are now in their graves or behind bars. The circumstances behind Bentley's disappearance are murky. But the incident has already caused outrage in Russian nationalist circles, with popular bloggers and commentators calling for an investigation and decrying what they called an official coverup. Russian ultranationalists, particularly those involved in the original fighting of 2014 and 2015 that killed 14,000 people in Donetsk and Luhansk, criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin for not doing even more to win the war in Ukraine. They have blasted the military establishment for its execution of the full-scale invasion. The Russian state, which initially focused on the liberal opposition, has increasingly turned the screws on the hypernationalist figures associated with the "Russian Spring" after the failed putsch by the Wagner paramilitary group of warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin, who pilloried Russia's top generals as incompetent. The warlord and top Wagner leaders were killed in a plane bombing last year widely blamed on Russian security services. It isn't clear whether Bentley's death is part of that crackdown by security services, or an accidental result of the anti-American spy-mania fanned by the Russian state and the overall lawlessness reigning in Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine. "The authorities can no longer control the xenophobia that they are igniting themselves, and any foreigner has become an enemy a priori," said Marat Gelman, a former senior executive of Russian state TV who is now an opponent of Putin's regime. In any case, the fury at Bentley's death among Russian nationalists is real. "It's hard to understand who are 'ours' and who are 'enemies.' Just traitors and freaks at the steering wheel, doing what they want," fumed Russian soldier and blogger Yegor Guzenko, who is known under his Telegram handle Thirteenth. "Texas was murdered! The way they murdered many of our brothers. The way they murdered Prigozhin and all others who tell the truth and honestly stand for Russia!" Bentley's death shows that "human lives don't matter much on the path to the great future," and explains why "even very pro-Russian citizens [of Ukraine] rarely met Russia with flowers," said Igor Dimitriev, a pro-Russian politician who moved to Russia from Odesa, Ukraine, in 2014. Oleg Tsaryov, a former Ukrainian lawmaker who became one of the main cheerleaders of the 2022 Russian invasion and was expected to become a key member, if not leader, of a Russian-installed regime in Kyiv at the time, was also upset. "If those guilty are not found and punished, prepare yourself for other affairs. And note that only the stories of media-famous personalities surface in the press and how many stories of non-media-famous people are there that we don't know about?" Tsaryov wrote on Telegram. Bentley was certainly famous in Russia. After moving to Donetsk in 2014, the self-proclaimed Communist married a local woman, Lyudmila, converted to Orthodox Christianity and frequently castigated America. President Barack Obama ran a "fascist government" controlled by oligarchs, Bentley said in an interview with Vice News in 2015 as he wore the Soviet red banner and the Lone Star of Texas on his uniform, adding that Russia is a much freer country. At the time, he was part of a rocket-propelled-grenade team of the Russian-backed Vostok battalion. "Heading West with the Liberators of Ukraine. We may stop in Kiev, we may stop on the English Channel. We may liberate the USA," Bentley wrote on VKontakte, a Russian social-media platform, once Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Bentley was part of a trickle of Americans who joined Russia's side in its war in Ukraine, often escaping personal troubles or the law. Since 2022, hundreds more Americans have traveled to Ukraine to join the Ukrainian military as volunteers, and several of them have died in combat. A former U.S. Army service member, Bentley ran as a third-party candidate in U.S. Senate elections in Minnesota in 1990, gaining 1.65% of the vote on a marijuana liberalization platform. He was later sentenced to five years on drug-trafficking charges, escaped near the end of his sentence and spent eight years as a fugitive before being captured by U.S. Marshals in Washington state to serve the remainder of his sentence. Bentley's prolific social-media appearances have gained him a following on the pro-Putin fringe in America. He wasn't the only American veteran to switch sides. Wilmer Puello-Mota, a former sergeant with the Massachusetts Air National Guard and a former city councilman in Holyoke, Mass., defected days before his January court appearance on child-pornography charges in Rhode Island. He appeared this month in a video shared by a Russian regional government, signing a contract to serve in the Russian military and describing how he had already fought as a volunteer against Ukrainian forces in the town of Avdiivka. "I was very fortunate Everybody has been so kind, so supportive, just ready to help me move forward, and I want to help them now to continue the mission," Puello-Mota said in the video. Puello-Mota's lawyer told the Boston Globe that the former sergeant had planned to plead guilty in exchange for an 18-month prison sentence and having to register as a sex offender. Such American defectors with military backgrounds are very valuable for Russian propaganda that is casting the invasion of Ukraine as part of a global struggle to create a new world order. "To them this is a bigger spiritual war with the West in which the Russian spirit is somehow going to win out against the deleterious and degenerative evils of the capitalist West," said Ian Garner, a scholar of Russian war propaganda at Queen's University in Canada. "They are saying: We really are forming a new multipolar order, and America is breaking apart because Americans are choosing to come and work with us." Bentley's wife, Lyudmila, posted on his social-media accounts that the Texas native was "harshly detained" by soldiers of Russia's 5th Tank Brigade, based in Buryatia in the Russian Far East, after he traveled to cover the aftermath of a Ukrainian strike in Donetsk the afternoon of April 8. With rumors swirling that he had been mistaken for a spy after filming the area of the strike, Lyudmila said Bentley's phone was in his car, and contained no footage taken in the area. On April 19, Russian official media figures such as Margarita Simonyan, editor in chief of the Russia Today TV network, which includes Sputnik, said Bentley "has fallen in Donetsk," without specifying the cause. Local authorities in Donetsk also confirmed his death, citing a DNA analysis, and said they had opened an investigation. Aleksandr Khodakovsky, the commander of the Vostok battalion, initially published a post on Telegram demanding an "exemplary punishment of those who killed Russell Bentley," adding that the military must show that it can maintain its own house in order and not just pursue critics. The post was quickly deleted, and Vostok said on its own Telegram channel that Khodakovsky had had to remove the comments because of his official position as head of special forces for the Russian National Guard in Donetsk. Khodakovsky is one of the few remaining original leaders of the "Russian Spring," a Putin-backed military takeover of parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions after the Maidan revolution ousted Ukraine's pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. Retired Russian intelligence colonel Igor Girkin, who sparked violence in the region as he took over the city of Slovyansk with a band of Russian veterans in 2014 and later served as defense minister in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, has been behind bars since July. A frequent critic of the way Russia has handled the invasion, he has been sentenced to four years imprisonment for "extremism." Another well-known personality of the "Russian Spring," Capt. Igor Mangushev, a far-right nationalist who once performed holding what he said was the skull of a Ukrainian soldier, was gunned down under mysterious circumstances in a part of the Luhansk region far from the front lines in February 2023. Yet another influential veteran of the 2014 war, fighter and popular blogger Andrey Morozov, was found dead in February this year after coming under military pressure to delete a post saying that the Russian military had lost 16,000 soldiers in its campaign to capture Avdiivka. His death was judged a suicide. The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine said it is aware of reports of Bentley's death in Donetsk. "Whenever we learn of the death of a U.S. citizen in Ukraine, we seek to get in touch with the family and provide all possible consular assistance," said embassy spokesman Chad Roedemeier. "But we generally don't comment on specifics." In the 2015 Vice News segment, journalist Simon Ostrovsky interviewed a Russian fighter serving alongside Bentley. "From a combat point of view, he is a very brave man," the Russian said, adding that Bentley had taught him how to make tripwires. "How do you know he is not an American spy?" Ostrovsky asked. "You can tell just by looking at him," the Russian responded as Bentley grinned, a cowboy hat atop his long gray hair. Write to Yaroslav Trofimov at [email protected] -------------------------------------------------- Bad things happen to bad people. But speaking of which: Where are the posts by the usual GD "I'm just asking questions" crowd that posted about Gonzalo Lira's death? Shouldn't they be protesting loudly about the death of a patriotic American right about now? Outch, I don't get out of the boat much lately but I forgot about that 'concern' |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: Because I am not putting my name on the airways, or telling randoms we meet day to day anything they don't need to know. My name is already on tracking sites like most of us. Luckily mine is completely misspelled and a dead end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL_Lh96XoAAUeAd?format=jpg&name=medium Why does everyone seem to have a callsign these days? Is this a Russian tradition, or is it new for the Internet age? I’m guessing it’s a mix of people wanting to be cool and nearly everyone having comms these days. Makes sense though. Because I am not putting my name on the airways, or telling randoms we meet day to day anything they don't need to know. My name is already on tracking sites like most of us. Luckily mine is completely misspelled and a dead end. Never put your real name or info out there. In the Corps my callsign was simple Echo 4 Bravo, E4 (corporal) then my last name. no need for anything more at the time. And it also allows command to identify you. |
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Sunny weather in Southern Ukraine.
Bezdorizhzhia, aka the Muddy Season in Ukraine, is coming to an end. It will be interesting to see if the Russians try to perfrom any major armored thrusts during that period. Looks like the Russians might have been trying build up stockpiles for such an offensive, but Ukraine was able to target and destroy some of those stockpiles. So, will the Russians do anything daring or just continues to along the broad front be content with pushing 1,000 meters a day here and there until the fighting season ends in the Fall? |
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Originally Posted By Aikibiker: It shouldn't be to hard to make one. Some sort of broadband receiver that can be programmed to look for common frequencies used by Russian equipment, a pair of directional antennas, and some smart people to put it all together. I mean Ukraine already has HARM and Soviet era anti radiation missiles to reverse engineer, they do not need a Harpy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Aikibiker: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By Aikibiker: Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Looks like the russians had some pretty effective electronic warfare systems in the area. Ukraine really needs to come up with a Harpy/Harop drone equivalent to target electromagnetic emitters like jammers, comms gear, and radar. Israel has been a huge disappointment in this arena especially considering how long Iranian Shaheeds have been operating in Ukraine now and how much aid and support they receive from us. Giving us a few Harpys to reverse engineer would've gone a long way. It shouldn't be to hard to make one. Some sort of broadband receiver that can be programmed to look for common frequencies used by Russian equipment, a pair of directional antennas, and some smart people to put it all together. I mean Ukraine already has HARM and Soviet era anti radiation missiles to reverse engineer, they do not need a Harpy. I'm sure the Ukrainians would easily disagree with you. Throwing a variety of weapons at the Russians and introducing new dilemmas for them to try and counter is always a good thing. |
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Sunny weather in Southern Ukraine. Bezdorizhzhia, aka the Muddy Season in Ukraine, is coming to an end. It will be interesting to see if the Russians try to perfrom any major armored thrusts during that period. Looks like the Russians might have been trying build up stockpiles for such an offensive, but Ukraine was able to target and destroy some of those stockpiles. So, will the Russians do anything daring or just continues to along the broad front be content with pushing 1,000 meters a day here and there until the fighting season ends in the Fall? View Quote The Russians haven't slowed down their optempo much, if any during mud season. They've continued assaulting Ukrainian positions non-stop all across the front line, often taking heavy losses in the process. So, I doubt we're going to see much in the way of daring armored thrusts. Rather, I expect to just see more of the same. People are talking about a major summer offensive, but I don't think that's going to materialize. Once again, I just expect an extension of the current offensive. The Russians likely believe they can break the UAF in the relatively near future, hence why they've been keeping their foot on the gas and forcing extremely high optempos, even in the face of mud season and very high losses. It's not sustainable long term, and I don't think there will be enough in reserve for the Russians to conduct some sort of major armored thrust over the summer, but the Russians are probably betting that they can crack the UAF before the unsustainability of their current pace truly sets in. It remains to be seen who's right. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dang, there is room for improvement I guess.
The thing being we aren't going to supply the er himars rounds because we just started working with them and production is next year. Bingo, but gmlrs in Ukraine doesn't miss by much so sdb shouldn't either under GPS jamming.
Full video I haven't had time to go through it yet. — John Ridge \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDF8 \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6 (@John_A_Ridge) April 25, 2024 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dang, there is room for improvement I guess.
Now there's a combat record to validate that. The thing being we aren't going to supply the er himars rounds because we just started working with them and production is next year. Bingo, but gmlrs in Ukraine doesn't miss by much so sdb shouldn't either under GPS jamming.
Full video I haven't had time to go through it yet. — John Ridge \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDF8 \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6 (@John_A_Ridge) April 25, 2024 Oh, man! ELO - Don't Bring Me Down Remix w/ Beautiful shuffle girls |
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I'm glad we are finally giving them stuff that was "off the table" for so long...but damn, what a stupid way to do it. And you can't tell me that the decision to do it this way was motivated by anything less than timidity.
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: The Russians haven't slowed down their optempo much, if any during mud season. They've continued assaulting Ukrainian positions non-stop all across the front line, often taking heavy losses in the process. So, I doubt we're going to see much in the way of daring armored thrusts. Rather, I expect to just see more of the same. People are talking about a major summer offensive, but I don't think that's going to materialize. Once again, I just expect an extension of the current offensive. The Russians likely believe they can break the UAF in the relatively near future, hence why they've been keeping their foot on the gas and forcing extremely high optempos, even in the face of mud season and very high losses. It's not sustainable long term, and I don't think there will be enough in reserve for the Russians to conduct some sort of major armored thrust over the summer, but the Russians are probably betting that they can crack the UAF before the unsustainability of their current pace truly sets in. It remains to be seen who's right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Sunny weather in Southern Ukraine. Bezdorizhzhia, aka the Muddy Season in Ukraine, is coming to an end. It will be interesting to see if the Russians try to perfrom any major armored thrusts during that period. Looks like the Russians might have been trying build up stockpiles for such an offensive, but Ukraine was able to target and destroy some of those stockpiles. So, will the Russians do anything daring or just continues to along the broad front be content with pushing 1,000 meters a day here and there until the fighting season ends in the Fall? The Russians haven't slowed down their optempo much, if any during mud season. They've continued assaulting Ukrainian positions non-stop all across the front line, often taking heavy losses in the process. So, I doubt we're going to see much in the way of daring armored thrusts. Rather, I expect to just see more of the same. People are talking about a major summer offensive, but I don't think that's going to materialize. Once again, I just expect an extension of the current offensive. The Russians likely believe they can break the UAF in the relatively near future, hence why they've been keeping their foot on the gas and forcing extremely high optempos, even in the face of mud season and very high losses. It's not sustainable long term, and I don't think there will be enough in reserve for the Russians to conduct some sort of major armored thrust over the summer, but the Russians are probably betting that they can crack the UAF before the unsustainability of their current pace truly sets in. It remains to be seen who's right. Pretty Much. The Russians have "all in" on a war of attrition, and are willing to take huge losses for negligible gains. The problem for the Russians is that they are on the verge of breaking their own army in the attempt to break the Ukrainians. IF they are able to break the Ukrainians, they may be able to pull a Pyritic victory out of this; however, my bet is that within the next 30 days the Russians will begin to bog down tactically and by July we will begin to see Uke counterattacks in force and shaping offensives. Putin went "all-in" on preventing the Western Allies from resupplying the Ukrainians; he was probably not wrong but he didn't expect Speaker Johnson to be willing to fall on his sword to get the aid through Congress, and probably expected Orban to "stay bought". The fascinating part about this is how badly he was willing to burn his allies in Europe, which is something that was just not done in Soviet times until the Commies had a replacement government lined up in the wings for the one they were about to throw under the bus. Unless the Ukrainians totally collapse, there is no way for Putin to extract Russia from this shitshow with anything resembling a "victory" consummate with the cost, as upwards of 500,000 total casualties and the loss of over 1/3 of the Russian's available tactical vehicle fleet is gonna leave a mark, and the sites of a few flattened cities and villages plus some badly-marred cropland with all the infrastructure destroyed is not going to feed the bulldog if a few hundred thousand friends and family show up at the next occasion that the "immortal regiment" is honored with pictures of their newly-inducted "heroes" and things begin to go sideways. |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Convoy of mostly NATO equipment supplied to Ukraine presumably on the way to Moscow. Includes AMX-10 RC and a German panzer of some kind Somebody brought the wrong Marder for the parade. View Quote |
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