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Posted: 4/18/2015 8:23:55 PM EDT
...They Tell Her Something Outrageous — and It’s Because Her Son Spoke Up in School. Picture this: You pull into your driveway, hop out and find half a dozen police officers and social workers who, without having a warrant, bar you from your own home. Banda’s 11-year-old son had argued in favor of marijuana at a school anti-drug presentation, and so the school called the state child protection agency. Banda repeatedly asks whether police have a warrant, and they repeatedly admit they do not — but they stake out her property and refuse to let her enter. The police several times tell her, "You’re free to leave at any time.” Now Banda could lose her child, and temporary custody has already been granted to her ex, she said, even though no criminal charges have been filed against her, the Post noted. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/18/woman-comes-home-to-find-cops-surrounding-her-house-they-dont-have-a-warrant-but-they-tell-her-something-outrageous-and-its-because-her-son-spoke-up-in-school/ View Quote Feel safer yet? - TS |
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I always consider 'the blaze' one step up from WND.
Anyway.. IN. |
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in for the shameless cop apologists to tell you its in the name of freedom, if they can remove the dick from their mouth for that long.
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You are free to leave but not free to enter you home? How does that work?
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Light at the end of the tunnel, etc.
REAL progress in the WO(S)D is just around the corner. Now, pick up that can, submitizen. |
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She had contraband. If she did not I bet she would still have her kid.
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So, why wouldn't they let her in her house?
The bureau of parenting approval is one of the worst. |
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She had contraband. If she did not I bet she would still have her kid. View Quote But freezing the scene for several hours and tying up that many resources for a bottle of hash oil? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're going to be a criminal, probably best to hide that shit from your kids or at least make sure they STFU. |
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in for the shameless cop basher who believes any story that's posted on the internet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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in for the shameless cop apologists to tell you its in the name of freedom, if they can remove the dick from their mouth for that long. in for the shameless cop basher who believes any story that's posted on the internet. Do you have evidence the article is false? Doesn't seem far off from the real derp. |
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War on drugs wins again.
We should ban alcohol as well, while we're at it. That will surely work. |
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These things. Sand People ride them single file to hide their numbers. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/5/58/Bantha.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060608194801 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Banda? These things. Sand People ride them single file to hide their numbers. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/5/58/Bantha.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060608194801 that's a bantha... |
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is.
Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. |
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But freezing the scene for several hours and tying up that many resources for a bottle of hash oil? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're going to be a criminal, probably best to hide that shit from your kids or at least make sure they STFU. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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She had contraband. If she did not I bet she would still have her kid. But freezing the scene for several hours and tying up that many resources for a bottle of hash oil? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're going to be a criminal, probably best to hide that shit from your kids or at least make sure they STFU. I'm sure they were hoping for more... |
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If the story is true, the mother needs get a mean as hell lawyer to tear the school system, child protection services and police dept who responded new assholes and sue for good amount money too!
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But freezing the scene for several hours and tying up that many resources for a bottle of hash oil? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're going to be a criminal, probably best to hide that shit from your kids or at least make sure they STFU. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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She had contraband. If she did not I bet she would still have her kid. But freezing the scene for several hours and tying up that many resources for a bottle of hash oil? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you're going to be a criminal, probably best to hide that shit from your kids or at least make sure they STFU. Wouldnt be the first time a kid has let onto criminal activity in their house hold. |
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If the story is true, the mother needs get a mean as hell lawyer to tear the school system, child protection services and police dept who responded new assholes and sue for good amount money too! View Quote Why? As long as drugs are against the law in the state and the mother keeps illegal drugs in her home and her minor is advocating using illegal drugs in school. You have not got a fucking prayer or a leg to stand on. |
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Those officers are absolute fools allowing CPS to use them as props for bluffing.
Get between somebody and their child, you best make your peace with whatever comes next, because you don't know what it will be. |
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Do you have evidence the article is false? Doesn't seem far off from the real derp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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in for the shameless cop apologists to tell you its in the name of freedom, if they can remove the dick from their mouth for that long. in for the shameless cop basher who believes any story that's posted on the internet. Do you have evidence the article is false? Doesn't seem far off from the real derp. Nor does anyone have proof the article is giving full details. I'll wait for other sources before light the torches and warm the tar. |
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Why? As long as drugs are against the law in the state and the mother keeps illegal drugs in her home and her minor is advocating using illegal drugs in school. You have not got a fucking prayer or a leg to stand on. View Quote I believe it's going to depend on what the child told the police. If he told the police that his mother had drugs in the house then they're out of luck. If they obtained and executed a warrant based on the child's views then it's far more complicated. Let's have a little hypothetical scenario. Say you're in California and there's a discussion about gun control. Your child espouses the views he was taught regarding those weapons. Is that probable cause for a search warrant ? If they find an "illegal" weapon after executing the warrant, similar to the "contraband" found in this woman's house, what then? Again, depending on what the child told police during questioning, which will be a can of worms in and of itself. |
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Quoted: So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. View Quote How dare you inject logic and reality into this tardfest!!! |
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Pot needles, pot needles every where.
Glad preventing someone from entering their home isn't a seizure of a person. |
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. View Quote What was the probable cause? |
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She had contraband. If she did not I bet she would still have her kid. What about people with kids that keep alcohol in their houses? Alcohol is legal to possess. |
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the strong arm of the law will run into a confident arm wrestler some day
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. What was the probable cause? A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? |
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She had contraband. If she did not I bet she would still have her kid. What about people with kids that keep alcohol in their houses? A bad idea but currently legal. |
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A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. What was the probable cause? A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? How do you know he said that? |
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Shona Banda, an activist who touts the medicinal benefits of marijuana View Quote Officers went to Banda’s home and found marijuana in plant, oil, joint, gel and capsule form and drug paraphernalia were found, according to a search warrant. Banda was arrested, and her son was taken into protective custody. View Quote It's okay guys, she is an illegal drug activist, she gets a pass. Nothing to see here, move along. |
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. What was the probable cause? I don't know, the story doesn't say. But assuming the judge followed the constitution, " No warrants shall be issued but upon probable cause." I'm guessing it was there. |
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A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. What was the probable cause? A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? I doubt it, that's like... "The three year old kid in the wagon across the street said crack pipe and pointed at your house sir, step aside" I would think a bit more than an adolescent claim would be necessary to warrant a warrant |
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Ralston said the boy said some things during a drug education program conducted by the school that concerned some of the teachers and counselors.
Under Kansas’ mandatory reporting statute, all public schools are required to report to DCF or law enforcement when it is believed a child might be in danger. “The school officials called DCF, DCF did their investigation, and then we were called,” Ralston said. Officers then went to Banda’s home, where according to Ralston, she denied them consent to search the residence. Based on what the child had said during the drug education program and interviews with others, Ralston said, police later applied for and received a search warrant. According to the search warrant, the search was conducted based on probable cause that the following crimes were being or had been committed: possession of marijuana and endangerment of a child. During the search, marijuana in plant, oil, joint, gel and capsule form and drug paraphernalia were found, according to the warrant. “We took the boy into protective custody after they found what they found at the house,” Ralston said. Finney County Attorney Susan Richmeier said the state is required under the law to hold a hearing within 72 hours of a child being taken into police custody. “The court has to determine whether or not an emergency exists that warrants the removal of the child from the home, and then he gets placed accordingly based on whatever his determination is,” Richmeier said. View Quote http://www.gctelegram.com/news/local/medicinal-marijuana-advocate-shona-banda-to-learn-if-she-will/article_541ba6bf-9ff8-5d17-8daa-93d4c3f910a0.html |
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So they don't enter the house w/o the warrant. Three hours later they have the warrant issued by a judge on probable cause. Find two ounces of cannabis oil, which is illegal in Kansas where she now is. Sounds like they followed that pesky constitution and states rights stuff. Eta: charges need not be filed as they build their case. What was the probable cause? A kid saying his mom has/uses drugs. Would that be enough? Almost anything can be probable cause these days. |
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