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The whole reason for a battleship is to move it's big guns.
We don't need the guns to blow shit up. |
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Battleships are cool but if we bring them back we might as well restart the transatlantic zeppelin service and rotary phones hooked to landlines with live operators to connect calls.
They're all gone because we have long ago figured out better ways to do their jobs. |
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Replace big guns with big rail guns, electricity provided for by nuclear reactor.
Sure why not. Then we could get drunk and shoot at the moon and shit |
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I could go for medium-sized arsenal ships that have a deck full of MLRS vehicles. Some loaded with ATACMS. Maybe some Tomahawk GLCMs too.
But battleships, no. |
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Okay Fluffy it's good to hear that you are revising the Seawolf number.
But with current budget constraints you are going to have to settle for 100 of these. They are much cheaper. How about a modern "heavy cruiser" concept? Mounted railguns, missiles. Armored so it can take some close in damage. Nuclear powered, with capability to be used as a mobile power source for US bases and aid operations. Say it's for anti piracy patrols. |
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Too big of a target, one wouldn't last 5 minutes in an engagement.
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GPS guided shit now. Dropped from high above or launched off smaller boats.
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Okay Fluffy it's good to hear that you are revising the Seawolf number. But with current budget constraints you are going to have to settle for 100 of these. They are much cheaper. How about a modern "heavy cruiser" concept? Mounted railguns, missiles. Armored so it can take some close in damage. Nuclear powered, with capability to be used as a mobile power source for US bases and aid operations. Say it's for anti piracy patrols. View Quote But yeah, exactly. A modern, armored battleship. Probably laser CIWS, heavily armored, definitely nuclear powered. I like rail guns so I think they should have rail guns. Ridiculous rail guns. |
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Yes
not because it's practical or needed but because they're awesome And as a jobs program If you're getting Welfare you have to work a set number of hours on Battleship construction. This will be observed of course, like an apprenticeship or classroom depending on role and critical need of the components. people would learn a huge number of marketable skills, they'd get pride in being part of something awesome, and the US taxpayer would get something in return. We waste far more money on stuff far less awesome |
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Once laser or energy point defense is capable of knocking out missles or aircraft the Battleships will return.
Hyper velocity tunsten or DU wont care about lasers. Subs will remain effective regardless. |
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And as a jobs program If you're getting Welfare you have to work a set number of hours on Battleship construction. This will be observed of course, like an apprenticeship or classroom depending on role and critical need of the components. people would learn a huge number of marketable skills, they'd get pride in being part of something awesome, and the US taxpayer would get something in return. We waste far more money on stuff far less awesome View Quote |
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Nope.
Cruisers... based on the San Antonio class hull... with updated 8" turrets based off of the Mk71 MCLWG. |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/139707/EDFAD1F8-076C-425F-A038-2D825BF41E4D-974637.jpg I’m fully on board with OPs plan. Not from any real strategically sound standpoint mind you, but mostly cause I toured the USS Alabama today. I’m in a BB afterglow. View Quote Quoted:
Yes not because it's practical or needed but because they're awesome And as a jobs program If you're getting Welfare you have to work a set number of hours on Battleship construction. This will be observed of course, like an apprenticeship or classroom depending on role and critical need of the components. people would learn a huge number of marketable skills, they'd get pride in being part of something awesome, and the US taxpayer would get something in return. We waste far more money on stuff far less awesome View Quote Quoted:
Would't more Arleigh Burke Destroyers be more practical? View Quote I guess I'll have to alot some Burke destroyers under the Whiskers plan. They are pretty awesome. All I know is: More carriers More Seawolf 2 Electric Boogaloo More Battleships I'll hire people to figure out the rest |
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Okay Fluffy it's good to hear that you are revising the Seawolf number. But with current budget constraints you are going to have to settle for 100 of these. They are much cheaper. How about a modern "heavy cruiser" concept? Mounted railguns, missiles. Armored so it can take some close in damage. Nuclear powered, with capability to be used as a mobile power source for US bases and aid operations. Say it's for anti piracy patrols. View Quote |
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Under my plan the entire ocean is completely covered with Seawolf 2s, if that matters
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nope. even with rail guns, idea being the range extends to 100 miles, trying to hit an area with a rail gun on a battleship from 100 miles would probably be less accurate than a traditional gun fired 20 miles. i would assume the rail system would have to be greater than 5 times more accurate than its counterpart to be significantly beneficial, or else it probably makes more sense to just launch guided munitions from a frigate from much further away, much more accurately. now, if this battleship was a space battleship, i would be all in.
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Bring back Iowa class ships.
Make bottom three decks a brig. Fill with illegal aliens. Sail off the coast closest to their home country. Cram into 16” guns. Fire them in the general direction of their home. Everyone profits. 8654 |
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Montana class to start.
Eventually a circular nuclear powered battle island, capable of 60+ kts. 36 turrets, located at 10° intervals. Depth charges, SM-3's, rail guns, torpedoes, laser death rays, atomic depth charges, everything. Name the first one the USS Cheerful. |
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Uss New Jersey 16 inch shell splashes! |
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Yes, and anyone who disagrees is just a communist in disguise. Nothing dispenses anger and freedom like a set of big fuck off guns. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MPQl-ndEjMo/maxresdefault.jpg https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71wvB%2Bkue1L._SL1000_.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Qg5_VZws--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1276763157872328774.jpg 'Murica. View Quote Quoted:
Montana class to start. Eventually a circular nuclear powered battle island, capable of 60+ kts. 36 turrets, located at 10° intervals. Depth charges, SM-3's, rail guns, torpedoes, laser death rays, atomic depth charges, everything. Name the first one the USS Cheerful. View Quote |
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Once laser or energy point defense is capable of knocking out missles or aircraft the Battleships will return. Hyper velocity tunsten or DU wont care about lasers. Subs will remain effective regardless. View Quote |
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Under my plan the entire ocean is completely covered with Seawolf 2s, if that matters View Quote Last ship: Nathan james encounters sub |
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Last one that saw combat (Missouri) had a silkworm missile launched at her that was shot down by the HMS Gloucester.
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We should definitely build some more battle ships. They need to be Knock Nevis-sized.
5 turrets with 3 16 inch guns. It also needs a flight deck for a 40 plane air wing. And it needs at least 320 VLS cells. Along with docking bays for LCSs to run interference for it. Oh, and a 3 ring circus. |
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When was the last battleship fired in vain?
Did we shell Iraq in Desert Storm with them? |
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Bad ass murica reasoning aside, I read a good article a few years ago that they were VERY helpful to Marine amphibious landings. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Voots beard! Everyone knows small attack ships run circles around big cruisers.
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