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Posted: 3/31/2023 5:22:07 PM EDT
Can’t eat meat today bc I’m Catholic. Grocery store down the street had a sale on Dungeness crab.
Attached File Got some zatarain’s crab boil going in a pot outside….. can’t wait |
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I don't understand how Catholics believe there are animals made out of something besides meat.
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One of the advantages of Full Immersion Baptism is that we can eat meat any day of the week.
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Friday night Fish fry and clam chowder have been American staples for decades.
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Quoted: I don't understand why not eating meat honors Jesus View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Catholics abstain from flesh meat on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, and the Fridays of Lent. Abstinence is one of our oldest Christian traditions. “From the first century, the day of the crucifixion has been traditionally observed as a day of abstaining from flesh meat (“black fast”) to honor Christ who sacrificed his flesh on a Friday” (Klein, P., Catholic Source Book, 78). Up until 1966 Church law prohibited meat on all Fridays throughout the entire year. The new law was promulgated in 1983 in the revised Code of Canon Law which states, “Abstinence [is] to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of our Lord Jesus Christ” (Canon 1251). “All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence” (Canon 1252). The U. S. Catholic Conference of Bishops (USCCB) extended this law to include all Fridays in Lent. Since Jesus sacrificed his flesh for us on Good Friday, we refrain from eating flesh meat in his honor on Fridays. Flesh meat includes the meat of mammals and poultry, and the main foods that come under this heading are beef and pork, chicken and turkey. While flesh is prohibited, the non-flesh products of these animals are not, things like milk, cheese, butter, and eggs. Fish do not belong to the flesh meat category. The Latin word for meat, caro, from which we get English words like carnivore and carnivorous, applies strictly to flesh meat and has never been understood to include fish. Furthermore, in former times flesh meat was more expensive, eaten only occasionally, and associated with feasting and rejoicing; whereas fish was cheap, eaten more often, and not associated with celebrations. Abstinence is a form of penance. Penance expresses sorrow and contrition for our wrongdoing, indicates our intention to turn away from sin and turn back to God, and makes reparation for our sins, it helps to cancel the debt and pay the penalties incurred by our transgressions. Abstinence is a form of asceticism, the practice of self-denial to grow in holiness. Jesus asks his disciples to deny themselves and take up their Cross (Mt 16:24). Abstinence is a sober way to practice simplicity and austerity, to deny the cravings of our bodies to honor Jesus who practiced the ultimate form of self-denial when he gave his body for us on the Cross. Thus, to give up flesh meat on Fridays, only to feast on lobster tail or Alaskan king crab, is to defeat the ascetical purpose of abstinence. Less is more! There are countless options for simple Friday meatless dinners: pancakes, waffles, soup and rolls, chipped tuna on toast, macaroni and cheese, fried egg sandwiches, grilled cheese sandwiches, cheese pizza, and of course, fish. |
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I am 64 and wife is 63 and we ate meat today, very Catholic in our house, been adhering to the no meat on Fridays during lent for many, many years. When I was growing up, it was no meat during lent in my household. We did not eat meat on any Friday during the year
We ate Chik-Fil-A today for lunch, needed to get something quick, but I am leaving soon to go get some catfish at church. I think when you are past 62, the laws are relaxed for no meat on Fridays. Here in Louisiana, no meat is not a sacrifice for us, crawfish, shrimp, crabs, catfish, that is good eating. |
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Quoted: https://www.archspm.org/faith-and-discipleship/catholic-faith/why-dont-catholics-eat-meat-on-fridays/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand why not eating meat honors Jesus Catholics abstain from flesh meat on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, and the Fridays of Lent. Abstinence is one of our oldest Christian traditions. “From the first century, the day of the crucifixion has been traditionally observed as a day of abstaining from flesh meat (“black fast”) to honor Christ who sacrificed his flesh on a Friday” (Klein, P., Catholic Source Book, 78). Up until 1966 Church law prohibited meat on all Fridays throughout the entire year. The new law was promulgated in 1983 in the revised Code of Canon Law which states, “Abstinence [is] to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of our Lord Jesus Christ” (Canon 1251). “All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence” (Canon 1252). The U. S. Catholic Conference of Bishops (USCCB) extended this law to include all Fridays in Lent. Since Jesus sacrificed his flesh for us on Good Friday, we refrain from eating flesh meat in his honor on Fridays. Flesh meat includes the meat of mammals and poultry, and the main foods that come under this heading are beef and pork, chicken and turkey. While flesh is prohibited, the non-flesh products of these animals are not, things like milk, cheese, butter, and eggs. Fish do not belong to the flesh meat category. The Latin word for meat, caro, from which we get English words like carnivore and carnivorous, applies strictly to flesh meat and has never been understood to include fish. Furthermore, in former times flesh meat was more expensive, eaten only occasionally, and associated with feasting and rejoicing; whereas fish was cheap, eaten more often, and not associated with celebrations. Abstinence is a form of penance. Penance expresses sorrow and contrition for our wrongdoing, indicates our intention to turn away from sin and turn back to God, and makes reparation for our sins, it helps to cancel the debt and pay the penalties incurred by our transgressions. Abstinence is a form of asceticism, the practice of self-denial to grow in holiness. Jesus asks his disciples to deny themselves and take up their Cross (Mt 16:24). Abstinence is a sober way to practice simplicity and austerity, to deny the cravings of our bodies to honor Jesus who practiced the ultimate form of self-denial when he gave his body for us on the Cross. Thus, to give up flesh meat on Fridays, only to feast on lobster tail or Alaskan king crab, is to defeat the ascetical purpose of abstinence. Less is more! There are countless options for simple Friday meatless dinners: pancakes, waffles, soup and rolls, chipped tuna on toast, macaroni and cheese, fried egg sandwiches, grilled cheese sandwiches, cheese pizza, and of course, fish. https://www.archspm.org/faith-and-discipleship/catholic-faith/why-dont-catholics-eat-meat-on-fridays/ I know why, I just don't understand how they think that makes sense, especially considering the "law" change that proves it was always BS they could change any time. |
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Enjoy your crab, OP.
I just made some delicious chicken with Kinder's seasoning in one pan and BBQ sauce in the other. FWIW, Goya adobo seasoning on zucchini is delicious |
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Quoted: I don't understand why not eating meat honors Jesus View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand how Catholics believe there are animals made out of something besides meat. I don't understand why not eating meat honors Jesus Sacrifice? Fasting? You don't see the relation between giving something up and being uncomfortable to Jesus giving up everything for us? |
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Quoted: Sacrifice? Fasting? You don't see the relation between giving something up and being uncomfortable to Jesus giving up everything for us? View Quote That’s the idea. But living in New Orleans. The seafood is so good it’s not much of a sacrifice. So usually I fast on Friday’s. I’ll only eat dinner, but usually it’s a good dinner. |
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Quoted: I am 64 and wife is 63 and we ate meat today, very Catholic in our house, been adhering to the no meat on Fridays during lent for many, many years. When I was growing up, it was no meat during lent in my household. We did not eat meat on any Friday during the year We ate Chik-Fil-A today for lunch, needed to get something quick, but I am leaving soon to go get some catfish at church. I think when you are past 62, the laws are relaxed for no meat on Fridays. Here in Louisiana, no meat is not a sacrifice for us, crawfish, shrimp, crabs, catfish, that is good eating. View Quote My understanding is that when you get over 59 you don't have to fast (so you can have multiple full meals on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday), but not for abstinence (so still no meat on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, and all the Fridays of lent). You can substitute an alternative penance for abstaining from meat on the other Fridays of the year. |
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Fish are meat. View Quote Fish is fishmeat; broadly speaking, yes, it's meat. But itt's not carnis, which is mammals and fowl. It is understood in Latin that the prohibition is for eating carnis. |
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Quoted: I am 64 and wife is 63 and we ate meat today, very Catholic in our house, been adhering to the no meat on Fridays during lent for many, many years. When I was growing up, it was no meat during lent in my household. We did not eat meat on any Friday during the year We ate Chik-Fil-A today for lunch, needed to get something quick, but I am leaving soon to go get some catfish at church. I think when you are past 62, the laws are relaxed for no meat on Fridays. Here in Louisiana, no meat is not a sacrifice for us, crawfish, shrimp, crabs, catfish, that is good eating. View Quote You're supposed to be fasting too. The Muslims take their religion way more seriously and it shows. |
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Good looking out, I had Venison Pastie's on deck.
Putting those away, heading to the local sportsman club for a $13.50 fish fry buffet. Baked and fried fish, broasted chicken, fries, cole slaw and Mac & Cheese. Pretty good deal, if you're hungry. |
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Quoted: I've got some leftover meatloaf. Am I gonna get smited? View Quote "smote" You non mackerel snapper Attached File |
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I’m Orthodox. Our traditional fasting is no meat AND no dairy, not just for Great Lent, but about half the year (there are other long fasts, such as the 40 day Nativity Fast before Christmas, as well as most Wednesdays and Fridays).
So when I run across Catholics complaining about not eating meat on Fridays, I tell them about the Orthodox fast and ask if they’d like to trade? |
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Quoted: mammals and fowl, i.e., beef, chicken, pork, etc. View Quote Doesn’t make sense to me. Seafood either… like seafood isn’t made out of meat or something. What about aquatic mammals… can you eat those? |
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We have special permission to eat muskrat where we live. They have muskrat friday fries alongside fish fries.
The history of Detroit Catholics' muskrat-eating tradition: And yes, it's still a thing |
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Tuna steaks marinating here. About to throw 'em on the cast iron.
Personally, I gave up meat for the entirety of Lent. It has been a long Lent. |
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Quoted: This is a good example of why the Church uses Latin in official teaching, etc., so the specificity is there. Fish is fishmeat; broadly speaking, yes, it's meat. But itt's not carnis, which is mammals and fowl. It is understood in Latin that the prohibition is for eating carnis. View Quote If God was so sure he should have said meat. |
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I’m Orthodox. Our traditional fasting is no meat AND no dairy, not just for Great Lent, but about half the year (there are other long fasts, such as the 40 day Nativity Fast before Christmas, as well as most Wednesdays and Fridays). So when I run across Catholics complaining about not eating meat on Fridays, I tell them about the Orthodox fast and ask if they’d like to trade? View Quote If so, they frankly don't seem all that hard. My understanding is Orthodox like to tout the monk rules, but as laity aren't actually held to that standard and such is voluntary. ETA: a link would be helpful: https://www.holyorthodox.org/fastingguidelines |
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Quoted: Are these rules representative of your Church? If so, they frankly don't seem all that hard. My understanding is Orthodox like to tout the monk rules, but as laity aren't actually held to that standard and such is voluntary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m Orthodox. Our traditional fasting is no meat AND no dairy, not just for Great Lent, but about half the year (there are other long fasts, such as the 40 day Nativity Fast before Christmas, as well as most Wednesdays and Fridays). So when I run across Catholics complaining about not eating meat on Fridays, I tell them about the Orthodox fast and ask if they’d like to trade? Are these rules representative of your Church? If so, they frankly don't seem all that hard. My understanding is Orthodox like to tout the monk rules, but as laity aren't actually held to that standard and such is voluntary. I know a lot of people besides myself who do the traditional no meat/no dairy. You can certainly choose how you’re going to observe the fasts. I certainly don’t hear people bellyaching about our stricter fast like Catholics do about no meat on Fridays. |
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