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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:45:33 PM EDT
….why isn’t it legal, regulated and taxed like alcohol…?
Seems to me .gov could make a killing off taxing it. Also …what stocks are going to be the ones to own when it IS reclassified…. |
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The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better.
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Quoted: Quoted: I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. And no chance of dying from fentanyl. Yep, you know exactly what you're getting. You can also choose the strain you like for effects you want. |
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Quoted: I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better. I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. I've heard you are correct. |
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Quoted: Yup, they were afraid the African Americans would get hopped up on marijuana and go around raping white women. The war on drugs is racist. View Quote |
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Quoted: ….why isn’t it legal, regulated and taxed like alcohol…? Seems to me .gov could make a killing off taxing it. Also …what stocks are going to be the ones to own when it IS reclassified…. View Quote |
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Quoted: Yep, you know exactly what you're getting. You can also choose the strain you like for effects you want. View Quote Yeah last time I was in Vegas I stopped into a dispensary. Guy was very well educated in his product and showed off their operation. They could trace back every shipment to the day it was planted. I’ll admit I thought the idea of dispensaries were fly by nights. Some may be, but the bigger ones are very legit. Just make the damn thing legal. I’d much rather deal with room full of potheads than a society full of drunks. But most of the smokers are their own worst enemy. Lighting up everywhere they go. People don’t like that and will fight against you. Not everyone wants to smell your shit. |
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Quoted: I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better. I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. You don't know very many people in N. California or Oregon |
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Quoted: It goes back further than that. There were concerns about it being habit forming and some states regulated it well prior to the marijuana tax act. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yup, they were afraid the African Americans would get hopped up on marijuana and go around raping white women. The war on drugs is racist. Pretty sure it was about the hemp trade. |
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It should be legal since it is so easy to test drivers for being over the legal limit, right?
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Quoted: You don't know very many people in N. California or Oregon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better. I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. You don't know very many people in N. California or Oregon Bingo! And likely very many other places! I surmise most folks that smoke pot and have done so for much time have their supplies in check and have for a very long time, they ain't gonna buy at inflated prices. |
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Drug prohibition justifies a plethora of state intrusion. Well all know the state loves to intrude.
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Quoted: ….why isn’t it legal, regulated and taxed like alcohol…? View Quote The "regulate it and tax it" proved not to work in California, because government greed ruins it all, if legalization is going to get the criminal element out of the trade, it needs to be like radishes... grow it, use it, knock your socks off, and other than maybe sales tax, the government can GTFO. |
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It definitely didn't work in California. People still regularly buy "illegal" marijuana because it is cheaper than the taxed stuff. Think about it, if you could avoid going to the gas station and paying all those taxes for gas when you could go to a corner and buy it for cheaper, and doing so is decriminalized, which would you choose? It is liking trying to tax criminals, what makes you think a criminal is going pay taxes? People who were smoking weed illegally are just not going to volunteer for taxes now, why would they? Especially in California where it isn't even enforced.
I actually talked to a guy in the Marijuana Control Board in CA. He said it is a mess, CA has the worst of both worlds (legal and illegal). Cartels are a strong as ever, they still find illegal grows that number in the many on private land that is rented from land owners, they still find bodies buried on the land. He told me the illegal growers don't follow any of the laws, but because it is decriminalized their punishment is a soft slap on the wrist at best, while the legit companies get hammered with fines for the slightest, least offensive offense. Not to mention, it seems everyone is a pothead in CA. Companies that require drug testing or cannot hire drug users either have to turn a blind eye and risk legal trouble, or they have trouble filing their ranks. My roommate is a cop, they bust people for driving with an open (marijuana) container all the time. |
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Quoted: .why isn't it legal, regulated and taxed like alcohol ? Seems to me .gov could make a killing off taxing it. Also what stocks are going to be the ones to own when it IS reclassified . View Quote |
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I've not heard of fentanyl in weed.
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Quoted: ….why isn’t it legal, regulated and taxed like alcohol…? Seems to me .gov could make a killing off taxing it. Also …what stocks are going to be the ones to own when it IS reclassified…. View Quote Mostly because bible thumpers and old folks think it will ruin society, but alcohol is totally regulated and never abused and no one ever dies from it so we can keep it. Also, the alcohol industry doesn’t like competition. Once the government gets their heads out of their asses and finds out how much they can tax it (ten percent on top of the already excessive use taxes applied by states, cities, and counties) they’ll legalize it. |
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Quoted: It definitely didn't work in California. People still regularly buy "illegal" marijuana because it is cheaper than the taxed stuff. Think about it, if you could avoid going to the gas station and paying all those taxes for gas when you could go to a corner and buy it for cheaper, and doing so is decriminalized, which would you choose? It is liking trying to tax criminals, what makes you think a criminal is going pay taxes? People who were smoking weed illegally are just not going to volunteer for taxes now, why would they? Especially in California where it isn't even enforced. I actually talked to a guy in the Marijuana Control Board in CA. He said it is a mess, CA has the worst of both worlds (legal and illegal). Cartels are a strong as ever, they still find illegal grows that number in the many on private land that is rented from land owners, they still find bodies buried on the land. He told me the illegal growers don't follow any of the laws, but because it is decriminalized their punishment is a soft slap on the wrist at best, while the legit companies get hammered with fines for the slightest, least offensive offense. Not to mention, it seems everyone is a pothead in CA. Companies that require drug testing or cannot hire drug users either have to turn a blind eye and risk legal trouble, or they have trouble filing their ranks. My roommate is a cop, they bust people for driving with an open (marijuana) container all the time. View Quote Imagine if they had to test you for alcohol to get a job. Yeah, it’s easier to sell something tax free than it is to sell it with massive taxes. I can’t imagine why that is such a popular thing. Also, buying stolen goods is typically a cheaper option than buying things full price at the store. |
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Quoted: Mostly because bible thumpers and old folks think it will ruin society, but alcohol is totally regulated and never abused and no one ever dies from it so we can keep it. Also, the alcohol industry doesn’t like competition. Once the government gets their heads out of their asses and finds out how much they can tax it (ten percent on top of the already excessive use taxes applied by states, cities, and counties) they’ll legalize it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: ….why isn’t it legal, regulated and taxed like alcohol…? Seems to me .gov could make a killing off taxing it. Also …what stocks are going to be the ones to own when it IS reclassified…. Mostly because bible thumpers and old folks think it will ruin society, but alcohol is totally regulated and never abused and no one ever dies from it so we can keep it. Also, the alcohol industry doesn’t like competition. Once the government gets their heads out of their asses and finds out how much they can tax it (ten percent on top of the already excessive use taxes applied by states, cities, and counties) they’ll legalize it. You honestly think that 10% tax you made up in your head will generate more money for the states/feds than the revenue from "The War on Drugs" can? Attached File |
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Quoted: Imagine if they had to test you for alcohol to get a job. View Quote Good. Blow over the limit at a drug screen you should have your offer yanked. Not going to waste my time arguing causation, but there is absolutely a correlation that as weed has become more acceptable.... Homelessness has Increased Depression + Suicide Increased Crime Has Skyrocketed Vehicle Accidents and Intoxicated drivers have skyrocketed Vehicle Insurance has increased Drug use in teens has increased The Great Resignation happened Skilled Workers have vanished Our society is sick and getting worse. The push for legalization is because they want us sitting at home, fat, dumb, stoned and watching Netflix of playing Xbox. It's literally the modern day "opium for the masses" . As time goes on more and more research is showing the harm it's causing to people. Pot is not some magical harmless drug. |
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Quoted: The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better. View Quote Some of the prices in the dispensaries in Washington are like 10-15% of what it was when some kids I knew in highschool were buying it. Quoted: It should be legal since it is so easy to test drivers for being over the legal limit, right? View Quote That's a legitimate issue, also, how can you tell if the guy who just drove your forklift through a door and off the dock got high two hours ago or on Saturday night last week. |
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I've never smoked weed, but after I retire I believe I shall take up the habit.
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OP thinks the will of the people matters to the ruling class. Sure would be nice. Legalizing it and taxing it probably increases their net control. Either way it will never be legalized totally. Gotta tax and regulate those plants.
Quoted: lol There is no black market in recreational legal states. Not much in the bordering states, either. The quality, prices and vast variety in dispensaries have relegated that market to the dustbin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better. lol There is no black market in recreational legal states. Not much in the bordering states, either. The quality, prices and vast variety in dispensaries have relegated that market to the dustbin. I don't think that's correct talking to people around here. |
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Sick of hearing about it non-stop, but why does it need to be taxed?
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Quoted: I've never smoked weed, but after I retire I believe I shall take up the habit. View Quote Attached File |
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Reading the OP is like having an conversation with my 70 year old mother. Like almost 100% the same, she just asked me how to invest in legal weed.
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Quoted: Drug prohibition justifies a plethora of state intrusion. Well all know the state loves to intrude. View Quote so true all these states loosening prohibition are giving out licenses by race blacks, then hispanics, then everyone else thankfully we're eliminating the prohibition, thereby getting rid of the state intrusion into people's lives and da free market |
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Quoted: You don't know very many people in N. California or Oregon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The black market price will always be cheaper and sell better. I don't know a single person in a legal state who still buys black market weed. It might be cheaper but the quality, for the most part, is nowhere near the quality of the legit operations. You don't know very many people in N. California or Oregon I was already proud of that before you brought it up |
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That's a great idea it's a wonder peeps haven't thought of such a Biz deal with the Fed .Gov.
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Biggest guess at a federal level is pharma has a ton of control over the government and if it becomes too legit they lose billions in lack of pain pill sales and probably more billions in drugs to treat people dying from alcohol. I'd imagine corporations invested in alcohol pressure against it as well.
The government tried to ban nicotine vapor products which are exponentially less harmful than smoking just to keep cash flowing from tobacco taxes. The government and corporations have no problem killing you if the price is right |
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