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Posted: 4/18/2016 2:32:59 PM EDT
With the upcoming Dayton Hamvention this week, what things are you hoping for? What have you heard might be released?
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I'd love to see a replacement for the Yaesu 817/857/897, but I'm not holding my breath
edit: same thing from Icom - something like the 706 series. I'm thinking a 7300 with VHF/UHF in a nice, compact package. |
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I am hoping to buy a new dual band mobile rig. Been running a pair of Motorola Maxtrac's for the last 15 years or so. I decided that it is time to upgrade if something catches my eye. If nothing new then my intent is to buy the FTM-100d, and a nice antenna and mount.
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It isn't this week but I will be looking at dual band 144/440 radios and antennas. After the truck fire I need a new one.
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Triband (144/220/440) Kenwood D-Star HT that has:
Kenwood receiver quality which means full dual receive capable of satellite work especially now that there is a D-Star Amsat. ICOM ID51 is a piece of shit when it comes to dual receive. Full TNC for APRS or Packet like the D72. I want to believe....... Rumors have been rampant about something from Kenwood D-Star related showing up at Dayton. My ICOM will be up for sale the minute it gets announced. |
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Quoted: I want a 817 in the 20-25 watt range. View Quote Ruggedized, 25 Watts, internal tuner, SDR, and under $1000=Instant winner. Would be the perfect emergency rig in my case. |
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With the upcoming Dayton Hamvention this week, what things are you hoping for? What have you heard might be released? View Quote I'm hoping to get some hands on time with: Elad FDM-duo (reviewed in QST) Apache Labs Anan 10E Ten Tec ? (see below) I'm going to be looking for: Updates to the Ten Tec story. Yaesu replacement for ft-8800. Anybody with dual-band that can be used with an external TNC for packet other than APRS/DStar. EMCOMM in Virginia includes using winlink on VHF/UHF for email messaging. In my county we are using a mixture of V71 & old GE radios connected to KPC 3+. I want to see what we should be thinking about and if we should be planning to migrate to radios designed and built in this century next year. I'm hoping to come home with a tilt base and poles for the 30 ft vertical I want to build to support 2 VHF/UHF antennas. Also a 2nd X50 dual band antenna. |
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I'm hoping to get some hands on time with: Elad FDM-duo (reviewed in QST) Apache Labs Anan 10E Ten Tec ? (see below) I'm going to be looking for: Updates to the Ten Tec story. Yaesu replacement for ft-8800. Anybody with dual-band that can be used with an external TNC for packet other than APRS/DStar. EMCOMM in Virginia includes using winlink on VHF/UHF for email messaging. In my county we are using a mixture of V71 & old GE radios connected to KPC 3+. I want to see what we should be thinking about and if we should be planning to migrate to radios designed and built in this century next year. I'm hoping to come home with a tilt base and poles for the 30 ft vertical I want to build to support 2 VHF/UHF antennas. Also a 2nd X50 dual band antenna. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With the upcoming Dayton Hamvention this week, what things are you hoping for? What have you heard might be released? I'm hoping to get some hands on time with: Elad FDM-duo (reviewed in QST) Apache Labs Anan 10E Ten Tec ? (see below) I'm going to be looking for: Updates to the Ten Tec story. Yaesu replacement for ft-8800. Anybody with dual-band that can be used with an external TNC for packet other than APRS/DStar. EMCOMM in Virginia includes using winlink on VHF/UHF for email messaging. In my county we are using a mixture of V71 & old GE radios connected to KPC 3+. I want to see what we should be thinking about and if we should be planning to migrate to radios designed and built in this century next year. I'm hoping to come home with a tilt base and poles for the 30 ft vertical I want to build to support 2 VHF/UHF antennas. Also a 2nd X50 dual band antenna. I'm really hoping that ELAD is there and has a discount on the fdm duo. In fact, I'm holding off purchasing one until after Dayton in hopes that they have them there. |
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Make sure you guys report what they reveal from the Elecraft table.
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Ok, I just blew Crown & Coke projectile style out my nose. Fuck you furball. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted:....Even though I'm pretty anti-HF,...
What the Fuck is " anti-HF " ? . Technician Ok, I just blew Crown & Coke projectile style out my nose. Fuck you furball. |
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Someone who doesn't enjoy that aspect of the hobby. (since you felt it was appropriate in your comment) It isn't as if I have been simply happy to remain a Tech and stretch my jaw on the local repeater, I just find more of a challenge and enjoyment in the spectrum above 54 Mhz. To me setting up a MMDVM host is infinitely more challenging than hanging an antenna and playing on PSK31. But, whatever. It's shit like this remark that keeps people out of the hobby, not in it. Amateur radio has a place for everyone including those Extra's who could two shits about HF. Get back to me during the worsening solar cycle when you start looking at digital modes like Fusion, DMR or D-Star to talk around the world. |
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I've been thru solar cycles
It's a hobby with broad and vast interests,....to each his own. I get it. ...but you won't find me saying I'm "anti-VHF", " anti-FM" "anti D-star", "anti-gun", or whatever. You sound like a gun hating Liberal with comments like that |
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I've been thru solar cycles It's a hobby with broad and vast interests,....to each his own. I get it. ...but you won't find me saying I'm "anti-VHF", " anti-FM" "anti D-star", "anti-gun", or whatever. You sound like a gun hating Liberal with comments like that View Quote I'll be eligible to join the QCWA in 2 years and I was first licensed when I was 10. I've worked all HF bands, all VHF, and all UHF through 900. I've used every well-recognized mode - SSB, CW, AM, FM, P25, several digital voice modes, SSTV, satellites, most digital keyboard modes, DXing, contests, ragchews, been a long standing member of quite a few nets and the only thing I'm anti is internet modes because they add infrastructure to an otherwise infrastructure-free communications system. VOIP is not ham radio. Chasing DX is pretty boring for me, I think SSTV is kinda lame. But if other people enjoy it I really don't care; it doesn't affect me at all. I genuinely dislike working repeaters because of the people I commonly find using them. I listen far more than I talk and most of the people I hear reinforce that policy. But I'm not about to proclaim that I'm anti-2 meters. |
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Quoted: ...but you won't find me saying I'm "anti-VHF", " anti-FM" "anti D-star", "anti-gun", or whatever. You sound like a gun hating Liberal with comments like that View Quote I have strong likes and dislikes and there is no reason for me to pretend otherwise in order to get along. I've spent years unswayed.... Facebook, anything Apple, sausage patties instead of bacon, Taylor Swift being a country artist, etc.... |
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Quoted: Uh, wut? Didn't you just go /AE? You know the green lines only get bigger in the HF bands, right? Or just trying to get in a 1x2? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Even though I'm pretty anti-HF, a new rig similar to the SGC-2020 would be high on my list of future acquisitions. Uh, wut? Didn't you just go /AE? You know the green lines only get bigger in the HF bands, right? Or just trying to get in a 1x2? Had my call almost 20 years so I won't be changing that.
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Triband (144/220/440) Kenwood D-Star HT that has: Kenwood receiver quality which means full dual receive capable of satellite work especially now that there is a D-Star Amsat. ICOM ID51 is a piece of shit when it comes to dual receive. Full TNC for APRS or Packet like the D72. I want to believe....... Rumors have been rampant about something from Kenwood D-Star related showing up at Dayton. My ICOM will be up for sale the minute it gets announced. View Quote I'd be down with that, but I'm hoping for a good package price for a Decked out KX3, PX3, and 100w amp with tuner. I've been a really good boy and saving pennies lately and slugged it out for the best part of a summer taking classes and earning my General. I DESERVE this radio, Damnit! |
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phurba,
looks like we have something else to go looking for at Dayton: 160, 80, 60, 40, 30, 20, 17 and 15, 12, (11), 10, & 6 meter all mode operation
Modes: USB, LSB, CW, CW-R, DIGITAL DATA:CAT –USB jack : CW, PSK, RTTY, SSTV – 3.5mm jack AM/FM as well. PAN mode: Easy to Find quiet point +/- 24kHz from main frequency. Power: 5W output in CW / SSB by... LNR LD-11 Quoted:
I'm really hoping that ELAD is there and has a discount on the fdm duo. In fact, I'm holding off purchasing one until after Dayton in hopes that they have them there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With the upcoming Dayton Hamvention this week, what things are you hoping for? What have you heard might be released? I'm hoping to get some hands on time with: Elad FDM-duo (reviewed in QST) Apache Labs Anan 10E Ten Tec ? (see below) I'm going to be looking for: Updates to the Ten Tec story. Yaesu replacement for ft-8800. Anybody with dual-band that can be used with an external TNC for packet other than APRS/DStar. EMCOMM in Virginia includes using winlink on VHF/UHF for email messaging. In my county we are using a mixture of V71 & old GE radios connected to KPC 3+. I want to see what we should be thinking about and if we should be planning to migrate to radios designed and built in this century next year. I'm hoping to come home with a tilt base and poles for the 30 ft vertical I want to build to support 2 VHF/UHF antennas. Also a 2nd X50 dual band antenna. I'm really hoping that ELAD is there and has a discount on the fdm duo. In fact, I'm holding off purchasing one until after Dayton in hopes that they have them there. |
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Depending on how much I can save before dayton the wishlist in order is:
Dayton Beers A few kits or cheap SDRs to keep me busy. Kenwood TK-981 900mhz Elecraft KX3 Elecraft KPA500 (probably not though) trailer mounted tilt and crank tower (if i win the lottery in the next 2 weeks) |
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I use Skype to talk around the world on frequencies above 54 Mhz.
BTW, HF works just fine even at the bottom of the sun cycle. Quoted:
Someone who doesn't enjoy that aspect of the hobby. (since you felt it was appropriate in your comment) It isn't as if I have been simply happy to remain a Tech and stretch my jaw on the local repeater, I just find more of a challenge and enjoyment in the spectrum above 54 Mhz. To me setting up a MMDVM host is infinitely more challenging than hanging an antenna and playing on PSK31. But, whatever. It's shit like this remark that keeps people out of the hobby, not in it. Amateur radio has a place for everyone including those Extra's who could two shits about HF. Get back to me during the worsening solar cycle when you start looking at digital modes like Fusion, DMR or D-Star to talk around the world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted:....Even though I'm pretty anti-HF,...
What the Fuck is " anti-HF " ? . It isn't as if I have been simply happy to remain a Tech and stretch my jaw on the local repeater, I just find more of a challenge and enjoyment in the spectrum above 54 Mhz. To me setting up a MMDVM host is infinitely more challenging than hanging an antenna and playing on PSK31. But, whatever. It's shit like this remark that keeps people out of the hobby, not in it. Amateur radio has a place for everyone including those Extra's who could two shits about HF. Get back to me during the worsening solar cycle when you start looking at digital modes like Fusion, DMR or D-Star to talk around the world. |
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Wish list? Honestly I don't know as I'm pretty happy with what I got now. I need to install my HF antenna on my new vehicle.
I won't make it to Dayton this year. |
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IC-7250: Updated version of the 7200 with a 25-watt mode and internal battery. Extra bonus points for IPX-rating and LCD Display.
FT-827: Updated version of the the 817, with integral LCD, TNC, and 25-watts output. Call me when either of those happen. |
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IC-7250: Updated version of the 7200 with a 25-watt mode and internal battery. Extra bonus points for IPX-rating and LCD Display. FT-827: Updated version of the the 817, with integral LCD, TNC, and 25-watts output. Call me when either of those happen. View Quote People keep asking for 20~25 watt radios, but they are just not going to happen, at least from the big players. In some countries there are license restrictions for 10 Watt radios, so those do exist in the global market. The traditional amateur QRP limit is 5 watts. There's just no real business rationale for a 25 Watt HF radio. Just get a 100W radio and turn the power down. Although, there is something close that already exists, albeit somewhat expensive. Elecraft K2 without the 100W upgrade is a 15W max radio, with an option for an internal battery instead of the 100W PA module. Add in excellent RF performance, small size, light weight, and very low RX power consumption. As for new radios the Yaesu FT-410 may be launched as a new entry level radio. |
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A guy can dream, right? I'm guessing my specific needs are more specific than I thought.
Thus my biggest gripe about the amateur market. Having a cobbled-together, wire-and-cable-tentacled mess is not what I'm after, which is what you're stuck with if you want something between a traditional rig, and a QRP-specific setup. I'd like something for SOTA other than an 817. That's about the only viable option that costs less than an ATV. I'd just like to see a TNC as standard-option in 2016. And LCD Screens vs. LCD alphanumerics. Quoted:
People keep asking for 20~25 watt radios, but they are just not going to happen, at least from the big players. In some countries there are license restrictions for 10 Watt radios, so those do exist in the global market. The traditional amateur QRP limit is 5 watts. There's just no real business rationale for a 25 Watt HF radio. Just get a 100W radio and turn the power down. Although, there is something close that already exists, albeit somewhat expensive. Elecraft K2 without the 100W upgrade is a 15W max radio, with an option for an internal battery instead of the 100W PA module. Add in excellent RF performance, small size, light weight, and very low RX power consumption. As for new radios the Yaesu FT-410 may be launched as a new entry level radio. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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IC-7250: Updated version of the 7200 with a 25-watt mode and internal battery. Extra bonus points for IPX-rating and LCD Display. FT-827: Updated version of the the 817, with integral LCD, TNC, and 25-watts output. Call me when either of those happen. People keep asking for 20~25 watt radios, but they are just not going to happen, at least from the big players. In some countries there are license restrictions for 10 Watt radios, so those do exist in the global market. The traditional amateur QRP limit is 5 watts. There's just no real business rationale for a 25 Watt HF radio. Just get a 100W radio and turn the power down. Although, there is something close that already exists, albeit somewhat expensive. Elecraft K2 without the 100W upgrade is a 15W max radio, with an option for an internal battery instead of the 100W PA module. Add in excellent RF performance, small size, light weight, and very low RX power consumption. As for new radios the Yaesu FT-410 may be launched as a new entry level radio. |
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I'd just like to see a TNC as standard-option in 2016. And LCD Screens vs. LCD alphanumerics. View Quote Actually, I'm still good with an external TNC. Why? Because an internal TNC may not have the flexibility I'd like. Example: FTM-400. As best as I can tell, I can't use the internal TNC to run winlink to support RMS Express. Forgot to list on my Dayton wishlist: to come home with 1. a tnc-x, 2. a transportable antenna pole/tripod and also 3. the poles & hardware to convert a BUD support pole to a 40-50' vertical for VHF/UHF & a weather station. DXEngineering, are you listening? It's a 3" pole. OmniTilt only goes up to 2.5 inches. Yes I have a plan, filed under redneck ham engineering. |
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The ANAN-10E is 15-20 watts out according to their specs. And a fairly small package. You do need a laptop though. https://apache-labs.com/productImages/T500_1044_ANAN-10%202.jpg View Quote Nice, but $1k is too much for my intents for the 25W radio. |
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Understood.
And that's part of the challenge to the manufacturers. We all have our own aspects of the hobby we enjoy, and there's no way to please everyone. I like modularity, but a grab-n-go, one-stop shop would be nice. Actually, I'm still good with an external TNC.
Why? Because an internal TNC may not have the flexibility I'd like. Example: FTM-400. As best as I can tell, I can't use the internal TNC to run winlink to support RMS Express. View Quote |
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I'd like something for SOTA other than an 817. That's about the only viable option that costs less than an ATV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I'd like something for SOTA other than an 817. That's about the only viable option that costs less than an ATV. And LCD Screens vs. LCD alphanumerics.
I really wish the K2 was about 1/3 the price. It would actually have a market at that price I think as it fits in this niche that people keep asking for, but that frankly it's just priced out of. The mcHF kit project that another member here has completed looks very interesting. Again though, it's really designed around a nominal 10W power level it seems. There are a couple of Russian/Eastern European radio projects that look interesting but that will probably never be viable. There is a kit SDR HF radio that I think can do up to 20 watts called the "Tulip" or "Tulipan". There are a lot of videos on youtube, which would be much more informative if you were fluent in Russian Examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joKa3BVleHU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7DrufbZks There is another radio called the SW2013 with a more simple setup it seems. This video has both the "Tulipan" and the "SW2013" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=572dOk8WMtc There is ingenuity out there, just hard to get it to the mass market. And the people doing mass market amateur radio don't understand (at a minimum) a lot of the new market forces in amateur radio. |
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A guy can dream, right? I'm guessing my specific needs are more specific than I thought. Thus my biggest gripe about the amateur market. Having a cobbled-together, wire-and-cable-tentacled mess is not what I'm after, which is what you're stuck with if you want something between a traditional rig, and a QRP-specific setup. I'd like something for SOTA other than an 817. That's about the only viable option that costs less than an ATV. View Quote Yeah I totally agree on the first point, but either you have an all in one box and live with it, or you have a modular box and deal with the mess of cabling. I used to really hate the cabling, but as I've been running my 817 I'm appreciating the ala-carte nature more and more. Have you looked at LNR precision, they have SOTA specific rigs for not unreasonable prices. |
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Something like the Russian kits linked would be absolutely awesome in a ruggedized housing.
Thanks for the links. I definitely need to dig into a home-brew solution. Quoted:
There are a couple of Russian/Eastern European radio projects that look interesting but that will probably never be viable. There is a kit SDR HF radio that I think can do up to 20 watts called the "Tulip" or "Tulipan". There are a lot of videos on youtube, which would be much more informative if you were fluent in Russian Examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joKa3BVleHU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7DrufbZks There is ingenuity out there, just hard to get it to the mass market. And the people doing mass market amateur radio don't understand (at a minimum) a lot of the new market forces in amateur radio. View Quote |
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The ANAN-10E is 15-20 watts out according to their specs. And a fairly small package. You do need a laptop though. https://apache-labs.com/productImages/T500_1044_ANAN-10%202.jpg View Quote A decent high end laptop at that IIRC. Not too practical for portable. |
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Nice, but $1k is too much for my intents for the 25W radio. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The ANAN-10E is 15-20 watts out according to their specs. And a fairly small package. You do need a laptop though. https://apache-labs.com/productImages/T500_1044_ANAN-10%202.jpg Nice, but $1k is too much for my intents for the 25W radio. If you want a shit hot SDR with 100W, get the ANAN-100B. $1795 at Gigaparts and HRO. Maybe they'll have a show special? The only thing the 100B doesn't do compared to the 100D or 200D is true diversity receive. |
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Hopefully it'll be revealed what the Yaesu FT-891 is.
It was reported as a QRP radio but maybe is just a small full power radio. http://www.gigaparts.com/Yaesu-FT-891-HF-6M-Transceiver.html |
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Going to the authoritative source: FCC
From the pictures I think ft-857 replacement more than ft-817. Looking at the ID images the power portion shows 23 amps. HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver ID Label/Location Info ID_Drawing Yaesu Musen Co., Ltd.
Yaesu Musen Co., Ltd. HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver See More Details For FCC ID: K6620651X50 Purchase on Amazon: HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver Quoted:
Hopefully it'll be revealed what the Yaesu FT-891 is. It was reported as a QRP radio but maybe is just a small full power radio. http://www.gigaparts.com/Yaesu-FT-891-HF-6M-Transceiver.html View Quote |
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MTC has this on their reserve page:
Yaesu FT-891 HF+6M 100W Transceiver View Quote http://www.mtcradio.com/yaesu-ft-891-hf-6m-100w-transceiver-reserve-only/ |
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Quoted: Going to the authoritative source: FCC From the pictures I think ft-857 replacement more than ft-817. Looking at the ID images the power portion shows 23 amps. HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver ID Label/Location Info ID_Drawing Yaesu Musen Co., Ltd. Yaesu Musen Co., Ltd. HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver See More Details For FCC ID: K6620651X50 Purchase on Amazon: HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Going to the authoritative source: FCC From the pictures I think ft-857 replacement more than ft-817. Looking at the ID images the power portion shows 23 amps. HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver ID Label/Location Info ID_Drawing Yaesu Musen Co., Ltd. Yaesu Musen Co., Ltd. HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver See More Details For FCC ID: K6620651X50 Purchase on Amazon: HF/50 MHz Amateur Transceiver Quoted: Hopefully it'll be revealed what the Yaesu FT-891 is. It was reported as a QRP radio but maybe is just a small full power radio. http://www.gigaparts.com/Yaesu-FT-891-HF-6M-Transceiver.html I'm thinking it's a replacement for the 857 as well.....but who knows. The calls for a 817 replacement have been getting pretty loud. |
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