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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
AI changed the design of the legacy AICS. It still has a magazine. Honestly, I prefer the new style over the old. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By USMCColt:
I originally wanted to do a MK13 MOD5 but then I found out that the stock they use on the MOD5 is not being made anymore. Thats unfortant because I wanted a magazine system. So I think what I will do now is the MOD4 I think it is called which is the Chris Kyle rifle. I think that I will go with HCS for this build. Should be a good time. The new style works a lot better with Remington 700s and clones. Since the original was designed around the AW and AE actions, the trigger on a 700 style action was very crowded. |
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Deposit down on a Mk11 Suppressor from HCS. ETA is a crapshoot though as he's had them on order for over a year
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: I think I have found a 20 moa MARS rail, new, that's not going to cost me my left nut and first born... We'll see Any pics of those? Seems like an odd pairing--or out of place--if that makes any sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: I think I have found a 20 moa MARS rail, new, that's not going to cost me my left nut and first born... We'll see There are some Mod 5s around with the Badger IMUNS, though. Any pics of those? Seems like an odd pairing--or out of place--if that makes any sense. |
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Originally Posted By Lawman734: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the old skins will fit the new stocks... The latest I heard was that the Remington RACS was the one selected during the individual user evaluations. They're also looking at doing an 18" barrel on it, but are doing more testing - why, I don't know considering they've had the XM3 before. I also find it ironic that they'll have a bolt rifle with a shorter barrel than their 7.62 gas gun - and not have as magnum option. It'll be the M40A7, bypassing an A6 variant, why I don't know. The big problem for the chassis manufacturers is in how the PWS rebarrels M40's - the reface the receiver every time a rifle comes in for rebarreling, again - why I don't know. This causes problems for chassis manufacturers in that they have to be able to accomadate a constantly moving recoil lug placement. The plan is to keep the M40 around until 2020 at which point it'll be replaced. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lawman734: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the old skins will fit the new stocks... What I remember hearing was that it must accept current M40A5 barreled actions, and one problem they were having with the A3/5 was not enough space for nigh vision optics. I read somewhere that they are looking for a folding stock, with a continuous optics rail, in sand brown color. I beleive the Remington RACS was being looked at, but sounds kinda like a Mk13 Mod 7 in .308. I'd be interested to see what they come up with. Supposedly contracts are supposed to be closed in February 2015 The latest I heard was that the Remington RACS was the one selected during the individual user evaluations. They're also looking at doing an 18" barrel on it, but are doing more testing - why, I don't know considering they've had the XM3 before. I also find it ironic that they'll have a bolt rifle with a shorter barrel than their 7.62 gas gun - and not have as magnum option. It'll be the M40A7, bypassing an A6 variant, why I don't know. The big problem for the chassis manufacturers is in how the PWS rebarrels M40's - the reface the receiver every time a rifle comes in for rebarreling, again - why I don't know. This causes problems for chassis manufacturers in that they have to be able to accomadate a constantly moving recoil lug placement. The plan is to keep the M40 around until 2020 at which point it'll be replaced. Can't find the pics anymore.
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Originally Posted By BSOG1: got that right ! i have a 2003 M40a3 that shoots just as it good as when i got it 11 years ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BSOG1: got that right ! i have a 2003 M40a3 that shoots just as it good as when i got it 11 years ago. Originally Posted By 0612Devil: Great thread! |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: Mk13 Mod 1 (actually I'm not sure about this one) http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/jacqueline_7599/sniper/ChrisKyle14.jpg Mk13 Mod 1 http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/On-the-gun-354x200.jpg View Quote I think the first one is a McMillan TAC-338 - not 100% sure though.
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: Mk13 Mod 1 (actually I'm not sure about this one) http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/jacqueline_7599/sniper/ChrisKyle14.jpg Mk13 Mod 1 http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/On-the-gun-354x200.jpg View Quote The fist one is a McMillan. Not sure which caliber. I think that might have been his personal rifle, not 100% sure. The second pic is one I have been trying to find. I remember seeing more pictures of M13s a long time ago without the suppressor mounted, which had a Knights Mk11 gas block mounted to the barrel as opposed to the barrel being notched for the suppressor like current Mk13s. You can somewhat make out part of the Mk11 gas block on the second pic with Kyle behind the Mk13. |
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I think y'all are correct--in his book he spoke of a .338 platform although I cannot recall what exactly it was. Edited my post so that we don't mislead any lurkers.
EDIT: Lapua .338 is correct. Thanks to iCloud and Sync I have access to the book on my iPhone. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5173/5534895156_838a1d0ee7_z.jpg Jeff Gordon http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/NASCAR_driver_Jeff_Gordon_shoots_sniper_rifle_while_visiting_with_National_Guard_Special_Forces.jpg View Quote Now that is cool as shit (the second picture) |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan: I'll try to find a pic. It's not using the MARS rail. It might be a Nighforce Scope base and the IMUNS for night vision View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: I think I have found a 20 moa MARS rail, new, that's not going to cost me my left nut and first born... We'll see There are some Mod 5s around with the Badger IMUNS, though. Any pics of those? Seems like an odd pairing--or out of place--if that makes any sense. |
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i got the can, just need a MK13....
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That IMUNS looks pretty damn good!!
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/javaman85/hero_pic_cropped01_zpsc289c47f.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: That IMUNS looks pretty damn good!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: That IMUNS looks pretty damn good!! Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/javaman85/hero_pic_cropped01_zpsc289c47f.jpg I dig it too. The MK13 Mod 5 (especially in that pic) is my precision grail gun - I may have to sell a few things to afford it, but one day I'll get there...
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Does anyone know if Accuracy International ever plans to sell their MK13 Mod 7 chassis again? Or was that a limited run only? View Quote This guy: They might. If I had $3200 laying around, I would have bought that chassis with the Stiller Mk13 action that was on GB The AX 2014 chassis is similar, but it doesn't have a full top rail on the hand guard and made for Remington 700 actions. You could probably fit an AX 2014 chassis to a Stiller with some work.A Stiller action can be fitted into a AICS with some work. |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan: This guy: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Does anyone know if Accuracy International ever plans to sell their MK13 Mod 7 chassis again? Or was that a limited run only? This guy: They might. If I had $3200 laying around, I would have bought that chassis with the Stiller Mk13 action that was on GB The AX 2014 chassis is similar, but it doesn't have a full top rail on the hand guard and made for Remington 700 actions. You could probably fit an AX 2014 chassis to a Stiller with some work.A Stiller action can be fitted into a AICS with some work. Those Stiller MK13 actions are way cool. Just out of curiosity, how many rounds of .300 win mag do you shoot per range session (on average)? |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Does anyone know if Accuracy International ever plans to sell their MK13 Mod 7 chassis again? Or was that a limited run only? This guy: They might. If I had $3200 laying around, I would have bought that chassis with the Stiller Mk13 action that was on GB The AX 2014 chassis is similar, but it doesn't have a full top rail on the hand guard and made for Remington 700 actions. You could probably fit an AX 2014 chassis to a Stiller with some work.A Stiller action can be fitted into a AICS with some work. Those Stiller MK13 actions are way cool. Just out of curiosity, how many rounds of .300 win mag do you shoot per range session (on average)? So I don't really waste ammo at 100-200 yards. Maybe 15-20 rounds to confirm zero and POI shift. If I had a better place to go to, I'd probably shoot up the 100rnds of 220gr SMK I have left |
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Originally Posted By Artymayes0811:
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View Quote Nice rifle. It's not a clone of anything though, so you probably want this thread. You know, having the long range rifle pic thread in the GD forum is a little confusing since the semi auto thread is in the Semi Auto forum. |
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I still wish Remington would start selling a clone of the M24 - it doesn't have to be a clone down to every last detail, but how difficult is it for them to sell like their .308 Police model, but instead of a short action and varmint barrel, sell a version with a long action and the correct M24 barrel?
I don't get it - you'd think they'd get it by now that people like to own what the mil uses - they could totally capitalize on this... Again, I know it wouldn't be 100% to spec, but it would at least be a good base to start with.
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I feel like the idea of people actually wanting a long action .308 just confuses them.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman: There are a lot of things that seem to confuse Remington. Such as making a 700P in .260 Remimgton. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ziarifleman: Originally Posted By CowboyWubWub: I feel like the idea of people actually wanting a long action .308 just confuses them. There are a lot of things that seem to confuse Remington. Such as making a 700P in .260 Remimgton. I think he's talking about how some people might be confused on the M24's long action receiver and chambered in .308. I believe the Army's idea was that so it could be barrel changed into .300 WM. .260 Rem in a 700P, meh...I've heard of some Police snipers using .243 WIN. Only about .5mm difference between .260 and .243 bullet diameter. Both are pretty straight shooting. |
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From the 2014 International Sniper Comp
I may be able to get some more. I saw various versions of the M40 with the USMC teams. I would say that 60% of the rifles there were M110s. Also on the XM3, not sure if this had been posted: http://stevereicherttraining.com/darpa-xm3/ |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I think he's talking about how some people might be confused on the M24's long action receiver and chambered in .308. I believe the Army's idea was that so it could be barrel changed into .300 WM. .260 Rem in a 700P, meh...I've heard of some Police snipers using .243 WIN. Only about .5mm difference between .260 and .243 bullet diameter. Both are pretty straight shooting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By CowboyWubWub:
I feel like the idea of people actually wanting a long action .308 just confuses them. There are a lot of things that seem to confuse Remington. Such as making a 700P in .260 Remimgton. I think he's talking about how some people might be confused on the M24's long action receiver and chambered in .308. I believe the Army's idea was that so it could be barrel changed into .300 WM. .260 Rem in a 700P, meh...I've heard of some Police snipers using .243 WIN. Only about .5mm difference between .260 and .243 bullet diameter. Both are pretty straight shooting. If they're using .243, why shouldn't others be able to use .260? |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Bump http://imagizer-cv.imageshack.us/a/img705/5462/remingtonmk13mod5.jpg View Quote Assuming that's a NF 3.5-15x50 F1? Looks a lot smaller compared to the 5.5-22x56 |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Assuming that's a NF 3.5-15x50 F1? Looks a lot smaller compared to the 5.5-22x56 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Bump http://imagizer-cv.imageshack.us/a/img705/5462/remingtonmk13mod5.jpg Assuming that's a NF 3.5-15x50 F1? Looks a lot smaller compared to the 5.5-22x56 looks like a Leupold mark 4 LRT 3.5-10x40 with M3 knobs to me! |
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Originally Posted By Elvis121: TBA M40A1 with Unertl 10X. http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/Mobile%20Uploads/20140419_155240_zps0f69b048.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Elvis121:
TBA M40A1 with Unertl 10X. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140419_155240_zps0f69b048.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/Mobile%20Uploads/20140419_155240_zps0f69b048.jpg</a> View Quote Oh my lawd |
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This thread is awesome, thanks dangerdan for all the good info.
I think I want to do an XM3 clone. For anyone that was wondering the Remington website says: Available in .308 Winchester (Match) / 7.62mm NATO 18 1/2 " stainless steel/(mil-gauged) Hart barrel featuring 1:10 twist with six grooves View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Eroc: This thread is awesome, thanks dangerdan for all the good info. I think I want to do an XM3 clone. For anyone that was wondering the Remington website says: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Eroc: This thread is awesome, thanks dangerdan for all the good info. I think I want to do an XM3 clone. For anyone that was wondering the Remington website says: Available in .308 Winchester (Match) / 7.62mm NATO 18 1/2 " stainless steel/(mil-gauged) Hart barrel featuring 1:10 twist with six grooves IIRC, 1:10 twit is correct, but keep in mind that Remington didn't make the XM-3
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Looks like Remington won the bid on stocks for the M40A6. Not sure if I like the stock (looks nice), but seems like things would snag easily. As stated previously, the RACS chassis runs $4000+ The following is a release for Remington Defense: The United States Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded Remington Defense a contract to provide up to 2,000 modular stocks, spares and magazines in support of the Marine’s M40 Sniper Rifle Modular Stock program. This award is the result of full and open competition. "We were excited to compete for and win this critical Marine Corps program,” said Greg Baradat, Director of U.S. Military Sales for Remington Defense. "The Marine Corps tested each bidder’s product to high standards, and we are proud to have exceeded their performance criteria.” Over the past five years, Remington Defense invested in its ability to compete in the government small arms space by modernizing View Quote |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Looks like Remington won the bid on stocks for the M40A6. Not sure if I like the stock (looks nice), but seems like things would snag easily. As stated previously, the RACS chassis runs $4000+ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Looks like Remington won the bid on stocks for the M40A6. Not sure if I like the stock (looks nice), but seems like things would snag easily. As stated previously, the RACS chassis runs $4000+ The following is a release for Remington Defense:
The United States Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded Remington Defense a contract to provide up to 2,000 modular stocks, spares and magazines in support of the Marine’s M40 Sniper Rifle Modular Stock program. This award is the result of full and open competition. "We were excited to compete for and win this critical Marine Corps program,” said Greg Baradat, Director of U.S. Military Sales for Remington Defense. "The Marine Corps tested each bidder’s product to high standards, and we are proud to have exceeded their performance criteria.” Over the past five years, Remington Defense invested in its ability to compete in the government small arms space by modernizing http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/remington-lw-racs/092811od_mdm1195.jpg What's the relationship between the Cadex and the RACS? |
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Originally Posted By Skeld: What's the relationship between the Cadex and the RACS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Skeld: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Looks like Remington won the bid on stocks for the M40A6. Not sure if I like the stock (looks nice), but seems like things would snag easily. As stated previously, the RACS chassis runs $4000+ The following is a release for Remington Defense: The United States Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded Remington Defense a contract to provide up to 2,000 modular stocks, spares and magazines in support of the Marine’s M40 Sniper Rifle Modular Stock program. This award is the result of full and open competition. "We were excited to compete for and win this critical Marine Corps program,” said Greg Baradat, Director of U.S. Military Sales for Remington Defense. "The Marine Corps tested each bidder’s product to high standards, and we are proud to have exceeded their performance criteria.” Over the past five years, Remington Defense invested in its ability to compete in the government small arms space by modernizing http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/remington-lw-racs/092811od_mdm1195.jpg What's the relationship between the Cadex and the RACS? There isn't one that I know of. Drake Associates is Canadian, and their Cadex chassis is similar to the RACS
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
There isn't one that I know of. Drake Associates is Canadian, and their Cadex chassis is similar to the RACS View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Skeld:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Looks like Remington won the bid on stocks for the M40A6. Not sure if I like the stock (looks nice), but seems like things would snag easily. As stated previously, the RACS chassis runs $4000+ The following is a release for Remington Defense:
The United States Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded Remington Defense a contract to provide up to 2,000 modular stocks, spares and magazines in support of the Marine’s M40 Sniper Rifle Modular Stock program. This award is the result of full and open competition. "We were excited to compete for and win this critical Marine Corps program,” said Greg Baradat, Director of U.S. Military Sales for Remington Defense. "The Marine Corps tested each bidder’s product to high standards, and we are proud to have exceeded their performance criteria.” Over the past five years, Remington Defense invested in its ability to compete in the government small arms space by modernizing http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/remington-lw-racs/092811od_mdm1195.jpg What's the relationship between the Cadex and the RACS? There isn't one that I know of. Drake Associates is Canadian, and their Cadex chassis is similar to the RACS Cadex is a Canadian company. Drake Associates is the American importer. My understanding is that Cadex had the original design that they worked up for Remington. There were some shenanigans on Remington's part, a lawsuit and they parted ways. The current Cadex chassis is a next generation RACS. Congrats to the Marine Corps for updating a Remington 700 once again - now on the A7 variation. The service with the least money picked a stock that's difficult to manufacture (hence the high price) and where the could have picked up 2-3 AX chassis's for the cost of 1 RACS. Just doesn't make a whole lotta sense when every infantryman isn't equipped with NV and a laser yet. |
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I have it on pretty good authority that the stock in the pictures posted on snipers hide are not of the actual stock the USMC is getting. And they are not paying the prices that the RACS is being sold for. I'm hoping to get a picture of the actual stock soon. I do agree with the AICS comment though, they are proven products that are well worth the cost. I personally really like the new AX chassis.
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Originally Posted By sobieras:
I have it on pretty good authority that the stock in the pictures posted on snipers hide are not of the actual stock the USMC is getting. And they are not paying the prices that the RACS is being sold for. I'm hoping to get a picture of the actual stock soon. I do agree with the AICS comment though, they are proven products that are well worth the cost. I personally really like the new AX chassis. View Quote Unless the USMC tested the lightweight RACS for giggles, I believe that's the one they're going with and while they aren't paying the $4500 that the commercial market pays, the military cost is still about $3000 each - enough to buy 2-3 AX chassis's at the mil contract price. |
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Originally Posted By Lawman734:
Cadex is a Canadian company. Drake Associates is the American importer. My understanding is that Cadex had the original design that they worked up for Remington. There were some shenanigans on Remington's part, a lawsuit and they parted ways. The current Cadex chassis is a next generation RACS. Congrats to the Marine Corps for updating a Remington 700 once again - now on the A7 variation. The service with the least money picked a stock that's difficult to manufacture (hence the high price) and where the could have picked up 2-3 AX chassis's for the cost of 1 RACS. Just doesn't make a whole lotta sense when every infantryman isn't equipped with NV and a laser yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lawman734:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Skeld:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Looks like Remington won the bid on stocks for the M40A6. Not sure if I like the stock (looks nice), but seems like things would snag easily. As stated previously, the RACS chassis runs $4000+ The following is a release for Remington Defense:
The United States Marine Corps Systems Command has awarded Remington Defense a contract to provide up to 2,000 modular stocks, spares and magazines in support of the Marine’s M40 Sniper Rifle Modular Stock program. This award is the result of full and open competition. "We were excited to compete for and win this critical Marine Corps program,” said Greg Baradat, Director of U.S. Military Sales for Remington Defense. "The Marine Corps tested each bidder’s product to high standards, and we are proud to have exceeded their performance criteria.” Over the past five years, Remington Defense invested in its ability to compete in the government small arms space by modernizing http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/remington-lw-racs/092811od_mdm1195.jpg What's the relationship between the Cadex and the RACS? There isn't one that I know of. Drake Associates is Canadian, and their Cadex chassis is similar to the RACS Cadex is a Canadian company. Drake Associates is the American importer. My understanding is that Cadex had the original design that they worked up for Remington. There were some shenanigans on Remington's part, a lawsuit and they parted ways. The current Cadex chassis is a next generation RACS. Congrats to the Marine Corps for updating a Remington 700 once again - now on the A7 variation. The service with the least money picked a stock that's difficult to manufacture (hence the high price) and where the could have picked up 2-3 AX chassis's for the cost of 1 RACS. Just doesn't make a whole lotta sense when every infantryman isn't equipped with NV and a laser yet. I had heard something to this effect also, but couldn't remember how it went. |
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I agree with the above - why would they not opt for the AICS AX chassis and save an ass load of money?
What does the RACS do that the AICS AX doesn't? Or is it really worth the extra $$$? |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
I agree with the above - why would they not opt for the AICS AX chassis and save an ass load of money? What does the RACS do that the AICS AX doesn't? Or is it really worth the extra $$$? View Quote I like the AX chassis and I mentioned it as an example of what they could have gone with. It's a good military grade chassis with a history of use at a lower cost. I've got a RACS chassis and while it's a nice stock, there's more adjustments on it than I think most will know what to do with. The one thing I do like about the RACS is that it has an interchangable pistol grip, but that's about the only advantage it has over an AX. It is a comfortable stock to shoot with, but no more so than any other well designed chassis. |
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