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Posted: 5/11/2024 5:26:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OSU_Buckeyes]
Looks like Walther is going back to their roots and has announced a PPK chambered in .32 ACP.
https://waltherarms.com/firearms/ppk/ppk-32-black |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 5:28:31 PM EDT
[#1]
I’m stoked!
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Posted: 5/11/2024 5:44:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Sweet.
These things are ridiculously over priced but I really want one in 32. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 6:11:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Too high of a price point but the original caliber makes more fun to shoot.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 6:21:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Cool. Not $900 cool.
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USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 6:58:36 PM EDT
[#5]
"Like a brick..."
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 7:34:46 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By meistermash: Sweet. These things are ridiculously over priced but I really want one in 32. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 10:36:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlitzPig]
[#7]
The street price will still probably be lower than what original Ulm or pre war made ones are going for these days.
I'll have to have one. Damn it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 12:38:02 AM EDT
[#8]
Anyone have first hand experience regarding their quality?
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:59:14 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myitinaw: Anyone have first hand experience regarding their quality? Can’t say on the 32 but I have a Ft Smith made 380 fit and finish is excellent and it’s been reliable. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:47:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myitinaw: Anyone have first hand experience regarding their quality?  ) had a very early Fort Smith .380. It was awesome. I hate the extended beavertail but that's more cosmetic than anything. The gun shot like a little beast! 100 percent reliable and accurate as you would expect a Walther to be. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:10:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlvinYork]
[#11]
looks sweet. I prefer the PP model. They fit my hands better. I bought one from Centerfire about twenty years ago when they were selling Manurhin made German State Police surplus pistols. They were selling for around $240 or $250 if I remember right they came complete with a shoulder holster. I use it as one of my carry pieces.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:25:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlvinYork: looks sweet. I prefer the PP model. They fit my hands better. I bought one from Centerfire about twenty years ago when they were selling Manurhin made German State Police surplus pistols. They were selling for around $240 or $250 if I remember right they came complete with a shoulder holster. I use it as one of my carry pieces. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:41:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks for the responses.
I too have a Ft Smith made 380, and it was damn rough. The safety literally broke in half after just a few times of being engaged/disengaged. I took it to a local gun wizard that replaced the safety, polished, tuned, etc. It's now GTG after spending $150 to de-turdify it. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:53:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: desertmoon]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myitinaw: Thanks for the responses. I too have a Ft Smith made 380, and it was damn rough. The safety literally broke in half after just a few times of being engaged/disengaged. I took it to a local gun wizard that replaced the safety, polished, tuned, etc. It's now GTG after spending $150 to de-turdify it. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2024 12:29:33 AM EDT
[#15]
I had a 380 but the long S&W beavertail cut and beat my hand so bad every time I shot it I had to dump it. Would love to have this one but not with that shit beaver tail.
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:11:23 AM EDT
[#16]
This is why the .32 is the optimum caliber for the PP series pistols. It's the caliber they were initially developed around and have a far softer recoil impulse than the very snappy .380 in small blow back type pistols.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2024 9:49:27 AM EDT
[#17]
I have an older PP in 32 and a post recall Smalther PPK in 380 (I like the extended tang, to each his own). I'd like a PPK in 32 but I don't want one enough to shell out a grand. Got on a 32 kick a couple years ago and ended up with seven or eight, but no PPK. I like the caliber despite it's limitations.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:40:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlvinYork: looks sweet. I prefer the PP model. They fit my hands better. I bought one from Centerfire about twenty years ago when they were selling Manurhin made German State Police surplus pistols. They were selling for around $240 or $250 if I remember right they came complete with a shoulder holster. I use it as one of my carry pieces. Yup, they were $250, and the one I bought was my first use of the C&R license I applied for back then. Mine did not come with a holster but it had the box and cleaning tool. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2024 3:47:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Just give me a Walther uodated “TP” 12-14 rounds .32 ACP in size of LCP or LCP Max! Lets move in to current world!
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 6:24:05 PM EDT
[#20]
Glad this is finally happening. I’ve sent them several emails over the years since the Ft. Smith facility opened asking for a .32 PPK - their response was always “nothing planned”.
I’m guessing street price will be around $750-800. I might even be an early adopter at $900. Hopefully that stops the urge to shoot my pristine, in the box, ‘67 German .32 PPK. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 7:43:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlvinYork]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnRippert: Yup, they were $250, and the one I bought was my first use of the C&R license I applied for back then. Mine did not come with a holster but it had the box and cleaning tool. https://images2.imgbox.com/80/f2/UNrWyPKC_o.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnRippert: Originally Posted By AlvinYork: looks sweet. I prefer the PP model. They fit my hands better. I bought one from Centerfire about twenty years ago when they were selling Manurhin made German State Police surplus pistols. They were selling for around $240 or $250 if I remember right they came complete with a shoulder holster. I use it as one of my carry pieces. Yup, they were $250, and the one I bought was my first use of the C&R license I applied for back then. Mine did not come with a holster but it had the box and cleaning tool. https://images2.imgbox.com/80/f2/UNrWyPKC_o.jpg I must have been one of the lucky ones, I checked, I still have the shoulder holster. I read somewhere that when they made Dr. No they had trouble finding PPKs for filming. So in several shots, Connery was shown using a PP. Also when he capped the geologist with the silencer if you look closely he used an FN Browning M1910, the silencer they used had a wooden dowel to hold it onto the barrel. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:47:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sundance435: Glad this is finally happening. I've sent them several emails over the years since the Ft. Smith facility opened asking for a .32 PPK - their response was always "nothing planned". I'm guessing street price will be around $750-800. I might even be an early adopter at $900. Hopefully that stops the urge to shoot my pristine, in the box, '67 German .32 PPK. Shoot that little German hussy!!!! Shoot the shit out of it!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 5/27/2024 10:41:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Has anyone ordered one or received on yet? I'm curious on fit/finish etc.
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Posted: 5/27/2024 2:05:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlitzPig]
[#24]
A chap over on the Walther Forum contacted Walther, not shipping till June.
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USA
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Posted: 5/27/2024 2:08:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Serenity7: Cool. Not $900 cool. This |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2024 8:02:14 PM EDT
[#26]
They’re in distributors’ systems for order, but not shipping yet. I had my FFL order a blued one.
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USA
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Posted: 5/31/2024 10:41:14 PM EDT
[#27]
Been wanting them to make a new .32 ppk for a long time. I'll definitely be picking one of these up
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Posted: 6/1/2024 10:56:02 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sundance435: They’re in distributors’ systems for order, but not shipping yet. I had my FFL order a blued one. Looking forward to your report |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 5:25:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Same here. Also can't decide between the PPK or PPK/S, both is NOT an option.
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USA
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Posted: 6/1/2024 5:59:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Would one be nuts to buy one and bob the rear projecting abomination?
I assume that is solid steel. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2024 6:04:05 PM EDT
[#31]
It is an eyesore and ruins the otherwise outstanding lines, but for me a necessary one.
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Posted: 6/2/2024 8:42:04 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sundance435: It is an eyesore and ruins the otherwise outstanding lines, but for me a necessary one. I agree with you, aesthetically that's an abomination, but necessary for the modern shooter. |
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Posted: 6/2/2024 9:01:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By myitinaw: I agree with you, aesthetically that's an abomination, but necessary for the modern shooter. |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 10:18:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: If they would just dehorn the bottom of the slide from the cocking serrations on back and also radius the angles on the back of the hammer, that ugly, prehensile tale would not be necessary. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By desertmoon: Originally Posted By myitinaw: I agree with you, aesthetically that's an abomination, but necessary for the modern shooter. Are you a wizard?  That's actually quite a brilliant solution. |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:25:37 PM EDT
[#35]
I picked mine up from the shop today. It is as you would expect, flawless. Nice box, nice case, impeccably machined etc. I went with the PPK 32ACP in stainless.
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:33:39 PM EDT
[#36]
Kinda want. Love my 380 S&W one. Never had any problem with it since the first round FTE'd. Thousands of rounds through it so far.
The .32 would be fun IMO. Would probably get the stainless one if I get one. What's a good factory and available round for these? Never had a .32 before. |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:42:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: Kinda want. Love my 380 S&W one. Never had any problem with it since the first round FTE'd. Thousands of rounds through it so far. The .32 would be fun IMO. Would probably get the stainless one if I get one. What's a good factory and available round for these? Never had a .32 before. Fiocchi round nose FMJ. Hollowpoints aren't going to have the energy to penetrate if they expand, and flat nose raises the possibility of rim lock. Euro ammo has harder primers. |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:43:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Fiocchi round nose FMJ. Hollowpoints aren't going to have the energy to penetrate if they expand, and flat nose raises the possibility of rim lock. Euro ammo has harder primers. Thanks. May take a trip to a local shop and see if they can get me one if I ever get a day off this summer. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 10:02:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: luv_the_huskers]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: Thanks. May take a trip to a local shop and see if they can get me one if I ever get a day off this summer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By backbencher: Fiocchi round nose FMJ. Hollowpoints aren't going to have the energy to penetrate if they expand, and flat nose raises the possibility of rim lock. Euro ammo has harder primers. Thanks. May take a trip to a local shop and see if they can get me one if I ever get a day off this summer. @BM1455 Underwood Extreme. Its a 55gr +P monolithic bullet. FMJ doesn't even come close to the performance of this 32 round |
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Posted: 6/30/2024 12:05:06 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: @BM1455 Underwood Extreme. Its a 55gr +P monolithic bullet. FMJ doesn't even come close to the performance of this 32 round Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By backbencher: Fiocchi round nose FMJ. Hollowpoints aren't going to have the energy to penetrate if they expand, and flat nose raises the possibility of rim lock. Euro ammo has harder primers. Thanks. May take a trip to a local shop and see if they can get me one if I ever get a day off this summer. @BM1455 Underwood Extreme. Its a 55gr +P monolithic bullet. FMJ doesn't even come close to the performance of this 32 round If you believe in screwdriver terminal ballistics. How many times has the gun community fallen for gimmick ammo? |
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Posted: 6/30/2024 1:10:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlitzPig]
[#41]
I'd be very careful about so called +P .32acp ammo. There is no SAAMI or CIP standard for a +P 32acp cartridge, and old design blow back pistols like the PPK are not designed around anything hotter than CIP standard ammo. The .380 PPK/S has been known to blow out their extractors when using "+P" .380 ammo, which is another round where there is no official +P standard for it.
I have found in my Walther PP that the better European loadings run best in it. Fiocchi, S&B, Norma. |
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Posted: 6/30/2024 2:40:21 PM EDT
[#42]
In my 60's production PP I shoot only standard velocity FMJ. In the brand new production I run the "gimmick" ammo.
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Posted: 6/30/2024 3:32:11 PM EDT
[#43]
I’ve not seen a 32 test of the screwdriver bullet in ordinance gel. Lots in clear gel. Consensus has pretty much always been that FMJ works. It’s also half the cost of the screwdriver bullets to get FMJ 32 ammo. Or for less then underwood you could get 32acp flat nose hard cast from Buffalo Bore if you were so inclined.
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Posted: 7/1/2024 6:52:40 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: I picked mine up from the shop today. It is as you would expect, flawless. Nice box, nice case, impeccably machined etc. I went with the PPK 32ACP in stainless. If you've taken it to the range and shot it, can you report on the felt recoil? I have a PP clone in .380 and the recoil was a bit to snappy for my taste. Hopefully the .32 is better. |
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Posted: 7/1/2024 9:36:01 AM EDT
[#45]
.32 is the caliber that the PP series was originally designed around, anyone that owns original PP series pistols in .32, like myself, will tell you that it is the best caliber for the PP series, and is a mild recoiling cartridge. It is no where near as "snappy" as the .380 is in small blow back pistols.
 My 1936 PP in .32 |
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Posted: 7/1/2024 6:37:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: .32 is the caliber that the PP series was originally designed around, anyone that owns original PP series pistols in .32, like myself, will tell you that it is the best caliber for the PP series, and is a mild recoiling cartridge. It is no where near as "snappy" as the .380 is in small blow back pistols. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3466/YwW4CT.jpg My 1936 PP in .32 I could not have said this better. .32ACP is where the platform shines. |
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Posted: 7/1/2024 6:37:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LastDefender: If you've taken it to the range and shot it, can you report on the felt recoil? I have a PP clone in .380 and the recoil was a bit to snappy for my taste. Hopefully the .32 is better. See the post above. He nails it. |
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Posted: 7/1/2024 6:43:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunnie357: I’ve not seen a 32 test of the screwdriver bullet in ordinance gel. Lots in clear gel. Consensus has pretty much always been that FMJ works. It’s also half the cost of the screwdriver bullets to get FMJ 32 ammo. Or for less then underwood you could get 32acp flat nose hard cast from Buffalo Bore if you were so inclined. I have been shooting 32 in PPK's for over 30 years and the ball ammo is ok. I have had some success with the Fiocchi with a soft nosed hollow point. I can't recall the name of it off the top of my head. I have had feed issues in other PPK's shooting the flat nose bullets. Not a lot of issues but enough I won't carry it. These are the reason why I went with the monolithic ammunition. If i can get the reliability of the ball and a bit better performance, why not run that ammo. |
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Posted: 7/1/2024 8:45:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlitzPig]
[#49]
Well, I caved and ordered a new PPK in .32. What the hell, you only live once, and I've wanted a PPK for a long time.
Pics, etc, when I get the thing. luv_the_huskers brings up an important point about the PP series. Historically they can be fussy about ammo, even ball. My above pictured PP chokes on ANY of the US made brands, and runs flawlessly on the S&B ball ammo. I have heard that these new Ft. Smith versions are less averse to ammo types and can actually cycle hollow points reliably. I have several brands/types I will test with and try to verify this. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2024 8:58:21 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlitzPig: Same here. Also can't decide between the PPK or PPK/S, both is NOT an option. What's the difference between them? I'd like to get one myself. |
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