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Posted: 2/23/2020 3:30:50 PM EDT
Frankly, tired of seeing threads getting archived and not able to revive them; plus these are not classed as AOW's, SBS or shotguns. So, lets keep this thread active; post pics, accessories, mods and comments. I also would like this thread to include other makes and models that follow the same theme. Past/historical, present and NFA are acceptable. Sorry for the late edit; but thought broadening the base would make this thread more interesting. I'll start with mine aka bootlegger.
Regular Tac 14 with detents in the mag tube 
Swaged the tube using a Craftsman socket and a small ball peen hammer; attached a S&J +1 mag extension 
Automatic Weaponry sling plate; this is the sling plate that came on the 870 WP models provided to the US Marshall's Service before they became Scattergun Technologies and before Scattergun was sold to Wilson Combat. It's also found on the Scattergun Border Patrol contract models; again, prior to becoming Wilson Combat. 
Furniture is cut down from a Remington 870 Express set made of birch. 
Added a Mauser sling swivel; not really happy with the results. I'm currently working on another birdshead grip made from a walnut 87M stock, that will be using a Garand swivel. It's not squeaky. 
I've added a large socket head bolt as a pommel, and you can see the plug ala 870 WP style. I'll also be modifying the pommel so it will be more effective at breaking glass 
The sling is a nylon British FAL/Enfield sling. Most modern sling plates can't accommodate the hardware on these older military slings; the the AW sling plate slot is wider than the current Wilson combat sling plate or the S&J sling plate; which wouldn't allow me to use the British sling. Best Regards Rod |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 5:58:54 PM EDT
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Looks a lot like mine. Actually waiting on it to be delivered. Tracking says tomorrow... Hopefully.
Here's the stock photo where I bought it.  Attached FileWill likely be my first SBS. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 6:06:35 PM EDT
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I changed the barrel on mine. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 6:19:57 PM EDT
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Frankly, tired of seeing threads getting archived and not able to revive them; plus these are not classed as AOW's, SBS or shotguns. So, lets keep this thread active; post pics, accessories, mods and comments. I'll start with mine. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2kVOrPyJh-J_FwoXedMx9e89x9U9OXJcgmhI5RyZOr2tBKq-oXSVjShlUmOvXkItgWwlonAjaCBmqyDfCf-ETFatdLtIMQn__CtkbQpr4cdxBlusC1AymNc3M21xnQYNdpLNPbt2Bg=w2400 Regular Tac 14 with detents in the mag tube https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZpGxWpmDAKjK8dTcP130f9N1bELb9kkv8qZTumY7oNginuKpj1kQBOpCLboje-0IWsKhLJwdXs-xPPrryGEtWbdsypzS29Txn_6vLFL7fwUuVqaCE1EfknCdOtAmBAZVulpv8TEPkA=w2400 Swaged the tube using a Craftsman socket and a small ball peen hammer; attached a S&J +1 mag extension https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2BX16Y_Lbln1EmHe9eiVLY5fgEBhk_Y_aAWO6pZvlGhRvgHE7cWmi0W7B4EpySSh93j0vcO5RSe8zSZ_bH1qKou_wkkKD3iv1iJ-Jf5IO6p67cHGstX9mqOxb7wLiFgmbi7eoXZvGQ=w2400 Automatic Weaponry sling plate; this is the sling plate that came on the 870 WP models provided to the US Marshall's Service before they became Scattergun Technologies and before Scattergun was sold to Wilson Combat. It's also found on the Scattergun Border Patrol contract models; again, prior to becoming Wilson Combat. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ra9FgBd7BqzeRw5s_-8KFr5FNdcR7-gbGgCeQXmCeuL7wUSvk_w4Uw8GXB-CN8OLe-YoVVHl518vXpIqPAMcFLUv8-wXscPmmAbRoIjV1-zUzG0iPaNQExFwY2IrFIR8z11d--Mm-Q=w2400 Furniture is cut down from a Remington 870 Express set made of birch. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ym2VlEaKilWCWa7OFTDOipERA72vON1_j9V4JkiL1gQNisAuCVH0lQsAHT09g3tIR02mTGF3R1xU-W0u6jYjmKImGBdjSUGqAPYBz4_ZvTvbmaBvlhC0Xb-R1tEcdTURXsJhbcNTQ=w2400 Added a Mauser sling swivel; not really happy with the results. I'm currently working on another birdshead grip made from a walnut 87M stock, that will be using a Garand swivel. It's not squeaky. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dbygxx-qqYYAZ3B3dKeniq4aA7FRYKv3KN57JNleh6E7raCiod-s3r4NzuENmLG110W0Quzr4SyESrDQ824KEwjmOvY5nExAJnNWtpRk9wblKXQc7hJb56s0zVWGQTIQapoc111wiQ=w2400 I've added a large socket head bolt as a pommel, and you can see the plug ala 870 WP style. I'll also be modifying the pommel so it will be more effective at breaking glass https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EYphmJmbYX_Ci0JWg9s96TeHk-RH9NHsltid9mDD5F2Iy4TKJ3EEVy7xSB35ORrSV6dWqWxbCIxrUxrsVT78qMcY6Absm57jEfkTX-RhAaKQqJksGY21-vwIsY_mjZLe09NwsH3Fng=w2400 The sling is a nylon British FAL/Enfield sling. Most modern sling plates can't accommodate the hardware on these older military slings; the the AW sling plate slot is wider than the current Wilson combat sling plate or the S&J sling plate; which wouldn't allow me to use the British sling. Best Regards Rod |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 11:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks very nice. I like the wood vs the plastic. You did an excellent job. Thanks for sharing. Regards Rod |
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Posted: 2/26/2020 8:29:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2020 9:58:26 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/37487/IMG_0479_jpg-1292573.JPG Here is mine with a Vang Comp barrel. |
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Posted: 2/27/2020 6:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did yours start out? Base Tac-14 or the hardwoods model? Regards |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 2:39:50 AM EDT
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Joescuba
A side from the barrel, yours has a classic USMS WP look; very nice. Regards Rod |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 10:00:51 AM EDT
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while it will ruin the traditional "look"... I added a hand loop, piece of 1" nylon strap originating from a swivel on the pommel, and adjustable so it meets your hand between the thumb and forefinger of you shooting hand, and still allows you to reach the trigger... really helps to controls the recoil and control of the gun... mine is a 590 with plastic and the wood stocked 870 I shot was much more difficult to maintain purchase onto ...
exceptionally nice job |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 9:15:16 PM EDT
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while it will ruin the traditional "look"... I added a hand loop, piece of 1" nylon strap originating from a swivel on the pommel, and adjustable so it meets your hand between the thumb and forefinger of you shooting hand, and still allows you to reach the trigger... really helps to controls the recoil and control of the gun... mine is a 590 with plastic and the wood stocked 870 I shot was much more difficult to maintain purchase onto ... exceptionally nice job Rod |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 12:15:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI really like the Ithaca on the bottom; please give us more details and pics
Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 12:24:34 AM EDT
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In for a page one post
 I'll update with a pic once I have one in hand. I am trying to hunt down a Shockwave to keep factory fresh and I am looking for a Remington TAC 14 with the SB tactical brace. Which ever one pops up for sale locally to me will be the one I nab first. I love my 870 and have been wanting an SBS 870 for a while but living close to and often traveling across state lines has really turned my attention towards these firearms and saving the NFA hassle. I think the Mossberg's have an advantage in stock form with the ambi safety, drilled and tapped receiver and ability to reliably run minishells, but I am a big fan of the 870 action so I'll likely end up with both. I am one of those guys that add a light to every gun I own... what are folks adding to these firearms? Edit: FOUND ONE! She’s plane Jane for now...    I tossed a Mesa Tactical side saddle on there from a Benelli M1 but I’ll think I’ll use some shotgun cards. Never tried them before. Now what extension, light and side saddle set up. I know I want to use the scattergun sight system. |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 10:54:19 AM EDT
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 Attached FileMossberg with wood furniture... grip wrapped with rubber raquetball tape... Scattergun Technologies sling plate, modified to fit... surplus M1 carbine sling, like the old witness protection guns... |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 2:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really like the Ithaca on the bottom; please give us more details and pics Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 3:28:37 PM EDT
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I thought I'd toss out a cheap accessory that gives the short pump action a bit of "urban" camouflage. It's a umbrella wet bag.
 I have a door pocket on my truck that makes a nearly perfect rack for the bootlegger. Unfortunately when the the door is open it's all too obvious.  The bag obscures the shape just enough; so that most quick onlookers will never know or notice.  The bag is also good for discreetly transporting from home to vehicle and sheds water when the door is open while it's raining. Best regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/1/2020 6:24:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2020 6:51:05 PM EDT
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I have a number of cases, soft and hard, that are good for concealment and transport. None give me concealment in the vehicle, instant access, and the ability to engage the firearm while in the case. The plastic bag does all three at no cost. Next time you are running errands in the rain, and you walk into a Walmart, Piggley Wiggley, Kroger, Lowes, Home Depot, etc.; grab a bag for your umbrella and a couple for your truck gun
 YMMV
Nice bag btw Best Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:05:14 AM EDT
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My ridiculously accessorized Shockwave:
TacStar stock adapter with SBA3 brace, Wisemen Split Fix strap and Magpul MOE K2 grip. Magpul MS3 Gen 2 sling w/ GG&G ambi front sling mount Streamlight TL-Racker forend/light XS Sights Tritum Big Dot front bead CDM Delta Wave safety KE Arms sight mount with Holosun HE507C Esstac 6 round shotgun cards  
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:19:11 AM EDT
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My ridiculously accessorized Shockwave: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49570280268_920b100de7_4k.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49570280083_9d0b82e343_4k.jpg Rod |
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:39:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very nice; I've often mentioned that the scattergun is the modern equivalent to the war hammer; it fits your moniker. Rod BTW, if anyone wants to put a light on their shorty not-a-shotgun, I would highly recommend the Streamlight TL-Racker. Rex |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:47:46 AM EDT
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My couple of contributions. Bottom is my 20 gauge TAC-14 which is now a Braced-12.25. I agree with the post above about the TL-Racker forend. Great simple way to add a light to these and I love the ergonomics of it. The indented area right behind the light serves as a good handstop. The item on top is my 12.5" 870 AOW. I made this gun about six years ago when Indiana still had a law that prohibited having an SBS (a law thankfully done away with about five years ago).
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:55:16 PM EDT
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yamadog35
Very nice indeed, really like the wood on on the AOW Rod |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 4:02:22 PM EDT
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yamadog... that aow is one sexy piece!
Just a quick reminder to the gang... keep in mind the legality of carrying our "boom sticks". Many places (to include the Carolinas) issue a "concealed HANDGUN permit". Our "firearms" are NOT legally handguns... Pay attention to your local and state laws, folks! |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 4:14:10 PM EDT
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My ridiculously accessorized Shockwave: Mesa Tactical stock adapter with SBA3 brace, Wisemen Split Fix strap and Magpul MOE K2 grip. Magpul MS3 Gen 2 sling w/ GG&G ambi front sling mount Streamlight TL-Racker forend/light XS Sights Tritum Big Dot front bead CDM Delta Wave safety KE Arms sight mount with Holosun HE507C Esstac 6 round shotgun cards https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49570280268_920b100de7_4k.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49570280083_9d0b82e343_4k.jpg Sorry for the crappy picture. 
GG&G Magpul Forend - Stippled MFT Mini Light M-Lok Handstop  Probably going to replace this with a strike industries.
SBA3, Magpul K Grip, Tacstar Adapter Tacstar Side Saddle XS Sights Big Dot KE Arms T1 Mount Holosun 503gu Circle Dot CDM Wave Safety |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 7:25:33 PM EDT
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yamadog35 Very nice indeed, really like the wood on on the AOW Rod |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 7:50:03 PM EDT
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The sling is a nylon British Nice project |
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Posted: 3/4/2020 9:44:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY = those nylon slings were ONLY used on the SLR, never on the No.4 Enfield (those used the cotton web version) Nice project Thanks for the compliment. Nice to come across another Enfield aficionado! You are correct regarding the sling; Nylon was manufactured for the L1A1. However, Many of the Irish constabulary contract UF 55 (I purchased 2 in 1995-1998ish) came with a bayonet, lots of cosmoline and the sling pictured. Since these Enfields were never issued, and manufactured 2 years before L1A1 production. It's likely if needed, over the next several decades they would have come out of the armory with the nylon sling. The cotton versions had ceased production. Most unfortunate for an older soldier who was used to the longer cotton Enfield version. All speculation of course; key phrase "never say never". The Enfields can certainly sport the nylon version effectively. I described the sling as such because most surplus retailers sell the nylon as an Enfield sling not knowing the difference. BTW the nylon is harder and harder to come by. I sold off my Enfield collection about 20 years ago 2 NOS cotton slings; and maybe 3 or 4 nylon slings. Kept the better unissued UF 55( finish is still mint) and a nylon sling because it's more or less period correct. Wish I had kept all the nylon slings. Hind site.... Best Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 11:49:51 AM EDT
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Thanks. I found the wood for this on eBay. It was hand made by a guy in Thailand. I think he is still selling different types of 870 wood. Edit: now that I think about it the Turk/Greek maker may have been on Etsy. Thanks again Rod |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 1:06:01 PM EDT
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I cut down a walnut stock and put it it on my 20ga Tac 14. Sling is for an M1 Garand.
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Posted: 3/5/2020 3:52:20 PM EDT
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This was my attempt to emulate the WP shotgun. Registered SBS built on a new 870 Express about a year before the Shockwave/Tac14 guns started rolling out.
I intended to get it cerakoted but haven’t. Also need to put a bead site and sling mounts on it. Another birdshead grip purchased from a supplier in Asia via eBay. https://photos.app.goo.gl/URNSHYCmWmUBhGpC9 
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:51:09 PM EDT
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TXJP90
Here ya go; created a link from google photo; nice start, although you almost don't need the bead w/ that short of a barrel  m14fun I like it; thanks for posting Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/6/2020 3:53:38 PM EDT
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Thanks Rod. Trying to keep current with all of the website tricks...If I can figure it out I’ll post a few more.
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Posted: 3/6/2020 5:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I kinda want the forend. Sorry for the crappy picture. https://i.imgur.com/1mUu0h7.jpg GG&G Magpul Forend - Stippled MFT Mini Light M-Lok Handstop Probably going to replace this with a strike industries.
SBA3, Magpul K Grip, Tacstar Adapter Tacstar Side Saddle XS Sights Big Dot KE Arms T1 Mount Holosun 503gu Circle Dot CDM Wave Safety |
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Posted: 3/6/2020 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/8/2020 5:41:07 PM EDT
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Magpul BTR 
Magpul BSL Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 6:35:01 PM EDT
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Just got this ammo holder from Bushido Tactical. You can order it to attach either to a 1.5" belt or MOLLE/PALS. I bought the belt version.
     Overall I'm pleased with it; I'd also like to try the SOE pull out pouch, but they were out of stock. Once I get the SOE I'll do a side by side review. Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 7:44:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2020 1:06:38 AM EDT
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We've got really similar setups. I had a Magpul forend with a side-mounted light before I got the Streamlight forend. The Streamlight is definitely an upgrade in every way! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I kinda want the forend. Sorry for the crappy picture. https://i.imgur.com/1mUu0h7.jpg GG&G Magpul Forend - Stippled MFT Mini Light M-Lok Handstop Probably going to replace this with a strike industries.
SBA3, Magpul K Grip, Tacstar Adapter Tacstar Side Saddle XS Sights Big Dot KE Arms T1 Mount Holosun 503gu Circle Dot CDM Wave Safety |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 6:29:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2020 1:05:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2020 4:12:43 PM EDT
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Racker arrived, damn that is bright. Also heavier than I thought it would be, but it's pretty solid.
Still fits in a scabbard too. |
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Posted: 3/18/2020 10:08:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2020 10:13:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: What exactly is that. I want one. Magpul 870 stock Magpul sling Krylon Multicam |
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Posted: 3/19/2020 8:38:22 AM EDT
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Tac-13 SBS Magpul 870 stock Magpul sling Krylon Multicam |
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Posted: 3/19/2020 9:30:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: So you did a form 1 for it? It's beautiful. I have no clue what a form 1 is or how to even start it. I shamelessly stole the idea from Tactical Coyote. 
Form 1/4 guide |
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Posted: 3/19/2020 11:26:12 AM EDT
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Quoted:
My ridiculously accessorized Shockwave: Mesa Tactical stock adapter with SBA3 brace, Wisemen Split Fix strap and Magpul MOE K2 grip. Magpul MS3 Gen 2 sling w/ GG&G ambi front sling mount Streamlight TL-Racker forend/light XS Sights Tritum Big Dot front bead CDM Delta Wave safety KE Arms sight mount with Holosun HE507C Esstac 6 round shotgun cards https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49570280268_920b100de7_4k.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49570280083_9d0b82e343_4k.jpg Quoted:
My couple of contributions. Bottom is my 20 gauge TAC-14 which is now a Braced-12.25. I agree with the post above about the TL-Racker forend. Great simple way to add a light to these and I love the ergonomics of it. The indented area right behind the light serves as a good handstop. The item on top is my 12.5" 870 AOW. I made this gun about six years ago when Indiana still had a law that prohibited having an SBS (a law thankfully done away with about five years ago). https://i.imgur.com/w1g6oOu.jpg @TheWarHammer @yamadog35 |
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Posted: 3/19/2020 1:38:29 PM EDT
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Do companies actually sell SBS's other than the Tac 14 and shockwave? I can't find any anywhere even on gunbroker.
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Posted: 3/19/2020 2:07:03 PM EDT
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There are many. Some major manufacturers have separate websites for their NFA(class III) weapons; others will have dedicated sections or links to law enforcement/military weapons . Just takes a little looking. Key words in a google search will be the manufacturer name then, "military" "police" "law enforcement" etc.
Mossberg Law Enforcement Remington Defense Good luck in searching Best Regards Rod |
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Posted: 3/19/2020 2:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does one Mesa tactical adapter appear to have the brace sticking out parallel to the ground while the other is at an angle? I have a Shockwave I want to do this to. @TheWarHammer @yamadog35 |
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Posted: 3/19/2020 7:29:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
There are many. Some major manufacturers have separate websites for their NFA(class III) weapons; others will have dedicated sections or links to law enforcement/military weapons . Just takes a little looking. Key words in a google search will be the manufacturer name then, "military" "police" "law enforcement" etc. Mossberg Law Enforcement Remington Defense Good luck in searching Best Regards Rod |
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