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Not sure if serious. His records have been sealed? View Quote Yep.. We know darn near everything about Walker or any republican candidate all the way back to when they were an itch in their daddies shorts. What is really known about Obama and can be verified? (other than the obvious) |
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Yep.. We know darn near everything about Walker or any republican candidate all the way back to when they were an itch in their daddies shorts. What is really known about Obama and can be verified? (other than the obvious) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not sure if serious. His records have been sealed? Yep.. We know darn near everything about Walker or any republican candidate all the way back to when they were an itch in their daddies shorts. What is really known about Obama and can be verified? (other than the obvious) Everything that makes him who he is and shapes the decisions he makes? |
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Minnesota has more fags than Wisconsin......isn't it the fag Capitol of the Midwest? View Quote That's twice in this thread he's used racist or intolerant slurs. First the 'Negro President' and now "Fags" This guy is a Leftist troll trying to get people to jump in with similar talk. Then he can say look how the gun people behave... The Left believes with all their heart that Conservatives are racist and intolerant etc... They can't fathom that most are not. So they keep looking for proof. He repeatedly brings up the Koch Brothers and the only people that do that are the far Left. No one else knows who they are-or knew who they were until the Left went crazy over them. He won't speak to the much larger amounts of money that Soros or Tom Steyer dumps into things. Or plenty of other Leftists. No he's a troll. As for the Unions. Now their monopoly has been taken away they will have to adjust and PROVE themselves worthy of gaining membership. If will be difficult for them but most will survive in a reduced, but more effective state. Their political power which was outsized due to monopoly will be lessened. |
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Divide and conquer. What part of that do you not understand. This country is a union.....a weak and getting weaker union.....it is almost as divided as in the 1860's. I like it when a group all pulls in the same direction. I went to work at a union shop because of the higher pay, got good training, worked there 35 years. Now I am retired, have a nice pension. Parts of our plant had non- union departments.....and shortly after another company bought the company it was closed. The non- union employees got screwed out of their company pension. My union worked out good for me, for 35 years and counting. Divide and conquer is EXACITLY what our current liar-in-chief has been doing since he was first elected, or haven't you noticed that? In case you haven't heard...he claims to be a democrat. Of course he claims many things. Most of which can't be verified because his records have been sealed. Not sure if serious. His records have been sealed? Sounds like the plot of the next National Treasure movie. |
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That's twice in this thread he's used racist or intolerant slurs. First the 'Negro President' and now "Fags" This guy is a Leftist troll trying to get people to jump in with similar talk. Then he can say look how the gun people behave... The Left believes with all their heart that Conservatives are racist and intolerant etc... They can't fathom that most are not. So they keep looking for proof. He repeatedly brings up the Koch Brothers and the only people that do that are the far Left. No one else knows who they are-or knew who they were until the Left went crazy over them. He won't speak to the much larger amounts of money that Soros or Tom Steyer dumps into things. Or plenty of other Leftists. No he's a troll As for the Unions. Now their monopoly has been taken away they will have to adjust and PROVE themselves worthy of gaining membership. If will be difficult for them but most will survive in a reduced, but more effective state. Their political power which was outsized due to monopoly will be lessened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Minnesota has more fags than Wisconsin......isn't it the fag Capitol of the Midwest? That's twice in this thread he's used racist or intolerant slurs. First the 'Negro President' and now "Fags" This guy is a Leftist troll trying to get people to jump in with similar talk. Then he can say look how the gun people behave... The Left believes with all their heart that Conservatives are racist and intolerant etc... They can't fathom that most are not. So they keep looking for proof. He repeatedly brings up the Koch Brothers and the only people that do that are the far Left. No one else knows who they are-or knew who they were until the Left went crazy over them. He won't speak to the much larger amounts of money that Soros or Tom Steyer dumps into things. Or plenty of other Leftists. No he's a troll As for the Unions. Now their monopoly has been taken away they will have to adjust and PROVE themselves worthy of gaining membership. If will be difficult for them but most will survive in a reduced, but more effective state. Their political power which was outsized due to monopoly will be lessened. A negro.....isn't that a fact? Shouldn't have used the word fag, should have used a more traditional word,.....Queer Capitol of the Midwest.....another fact, isn't it? Buying elections is just not right, no matter who does it..... I'll read up on Soros, you read up on the Koch Brothers......the Devil doesn't discriminate You think the KB's are okay......I say Soros and the KB's are being controlled by the Devil, and this country is going off the cliff because of creeps like them. |
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That's twice in this thread he's used racist or intolerant slurs. First the 'Negro President' and now "Fags" This guy is a Leftist troll trying to get people to jump in with similar talk. Then he can say look how the gun people behave... The Left believes with all their heart that Conservatives are racist and intolerant etc... They can't fathom that most are not. So they keep looking for proof. He repeatedly brings up the Koch Brothers and the only people that do that are the far Left. No one else knows who they are-or knew who they were until the Left went crazy over them. He won't speak to the much larger amounts of money that Soros or Tom Steyer dumps into things. Or plenty of other Leftists. No he's a troll. As for the Unions. Now their monopoly has been taken away they will have to adjust and PROVE themselves worthy of gaining membership. If will be difficult for them but most will survive in a reduced, but more effective state. Their political power which was outsized due to monopoly will be lessened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Minnesota has more fags than Wisconsin......isn't it the fag Capitol of the Midwest? That's twice in this thread he's used racist or intolerant slurs. First the 'Negro President' and now "Fags" This guy is a Leftist troll trying to get people to jump in with similar talk. Then he can say look how the gun people behave... The Left believes with all their heart that Conservatives are racist and intolerant etc... They can't fathom that most are not. So they keep looking for proof. He repeatedly brings up the Koch Brothers and the only people that do that are the far Left. No one else knows who they are-or knew who they were until the Left went crazy over them. He won't speak to the much larger amounts of money that Soros or Tom Steyer dumps into things. Or plenty of other Leftists. No he's a troll. As for the Unions. Now their monopoly has been taken away they will have to adjust and PROVE themselves worthy of gaining membership. If will be difficult for them but most will survive in a reduced, but more effective state. Their political power which was outsized due to monopoly will be lessened. You sure? Have you met him (Slvrktman)? Has anyone that responded in this thread met him (her, or what) F2F? I sure haven't, anybody can 'come here' to incite some shit... I do not assume that every person critical of the current Republican Party is some kind of leftist nut, there are plenty of flav or of disgruntled people, forget the "RINOs" and those 'traitors" like Dale Schultz. (Didn't that slur RINO (<my opinion) come from the "2A community"?) |
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How about you leave all that talk of the discussion? If you can't manage that, I'm sure I can help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A negro.....isn't that a fact? Shouldn't have used the word fag, should have used a more traditional word,.....Queer Capitol of the Midwest.....another fact, isn't it? How about you leave all that talk of the discussion? If you can't manage that, I'm sure I can help. Please god do. |
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues.
... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. |
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. View Quote Give it a rest dude. Your agenda is clear. You're are not going to gain any support from members on this board. |
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. Give it a rest dude. Your agenda is clear. You're are not going to gain any support from members on this board. You think I am here to gain support? Your assumption of what my "agenda" is, as clear as mud. |
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"Anti Union" RTW legislative tactics do not 'degrade' or bring down the "Left", they bring down everybody. http://www.epi.org/publication/right-to-work-states-have-lower-wages/
“Right-to-Work” States Still Have Lower Wages By Elise Gould and Will Kimball | April 22, 2015 Briefing Paper #395 Download PDF Press release Introduction and executive summary Under federal law, no one can be forced to join a union as a condition of employment, and the Supreme Court has made clear that workers cannot be forced to pay dues used for political purposes. So-called right-to-work (RTW) legislation goes one step further and entitles employees to the benefits of a union contract—including the right to have the union take up their grievance if their employer abuses them—without paying any of the cost. This means that if an employer mistreats a worker who does not pay a union representation fee, the union must prosecute that worker’s grievance just as it would a dues-paying member’s, even if it costs tens of thousands of dollars. Non-dues-paying workers would also receive the higher wages and benefits their dues-paying coworkers enjoy. RTW laws have nothing to do with whether people can be forced to join a union or contribute to a political cause they do not support; that is already illegal. Nor do RTW laws have anything to do with the right to have a job or be provided employment. At their core, RTW laws seek to hamstring unions’ ability to help employees bargain with their employers for better wages, benefits, and working conditions. Given that unionization raises wages both for individual union members as well as for nonunion workers in unionized sectors, it is not surprising that research shows that both union and nonunion workers in RTW states have lower wages and fewer benefits, on average, than comparable workers in other states. Indeed, in a 2011 EPI paper, Elise Gould and Heidi Shierholz estimate that wages in RTW states are 3.2 percent lower on average than wages in non-RTW states, even after controlling for a full set of worker characteristics and state labor market conditions. Gould and Shierholz (2011) also find that workers in RTW states are less likely to have employer-sponsored health insurance and pension coverage. In this paper, we update that research and subject the results to a series of robustness tests. We utilize more recent data from the Current Population Survey, and employ a cost-of-living indicator from the Bureau of Economic Analysis that was only made available in the years following the release of Gould and Shierholz (2011). Last, we subject our results to various robustness tests as suggested by Sherk (2015) regarding choice of specific explanatory variables. We find that the main results hold under any reasonable alternative specifications. Only extensive data-mining and non-standard specifications of wage equations can move the estimated RTW penalty to statistical insignificance. Our central findings are: Wages in RTW states are 3.1 percent lower than those in non-RTW states, after controlling for a full complement of individual demographic and socioeconomic factors as well as state macroeconomic indicators. This translates into RTW being associated with $1,558 lower annual wages for a typical full-time, full-year worker. The relationship between RTW status and wages remains economically and statistically significant under alternative specifications of our econometric model. Background The 1947 Taft–Hartley amendments to the National Labor Relations Act (1935) sanctioned a state’s right to pass laws that prohibit unions from requiring a worker to pay dues, even when the worker is covered by a union-negotiated collective bargaining agreement. Within a couple of years of the amendment’s passage, 12 states had passed RTW laws. Today, RTW laws are in place in 25 states, predominantly in the Midwest, South, and Southwest.1 Although there has been an extensive amount of research on the effect of RTW laws on union density, organizing efforts, and industrial development (see Moore 1998 and Moore and Newman 1985 for literature overviews), there has been surprisingly little examination of the perhaps more important issue of RTW laws’ effect on wages and employer-sponsored benefits. Part of the reason that there has been little research done on these latter relationships is that it is hard to identify or isolate the RTW effect. For example, there is little variation in the timing of when many states adopted RTW laws—10 states adopted or amended such laws in a two-year window in the late 1940s, right before a recession hit. In addition, it’s hard to adequately control for the decision of a state to become RTW or isolate that effect from other legislative changes. Further, there are many factors that influence state labor market conditions over time, making it hard to identify the RTW effect amid other economic, social, or technological phenomena. These limitations make clear why causal impacts of RTW laws are hard to estimate, but one can legitimately take a cross-sectional approach and look at the correlation of RTW status and wages after controlling for a range of other influences that could impact state-level wages. Gould and Shierholz (2011) use this approach and overcome one obvious shortcoming of previous research by controlling for differences in cost of living throughout the United States, thereby making inflation-adjusted wages in various parts of the country as comparable as possible. First and foremost, this paper is an update to Gould and Shierholz (2011), using data through 2012. Unfortunately, since three states have passed RTW legislation in the last three years, any analysis must still be restricted to data from 2012 and prior so as not to contaminate (that is, bias) the results with data from states switching their regime during the period of study.2 Most researchers think that whatever the effect of RTW on states’ economies, it takes a relatively long time to manifest. Thus, it is difficult to know how to classify states that have very recently passed RTW laws. Once the full effects of changes in legislation have been felt in these states, which could take several years, these states can be further evaluated. In this paper we also employ a different cost-of-living adjustment based on a new measure from the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA). And, finally, this paper responds to concerns raised about the robustness of the Gould and Shierholz (2011) findings on RTW and wages. Specifically, Sherk (2015) argues that his preferred regression specification yields the result that a wage differential does not exist between RTW and non-RTW states. After extensive investigation, we do not find his conclusion compelling. The previous Gould and Shierholz (2011) finding is robust to reasonable changes in model specification, and the regression specification Sherk (2015) uses that yields no wage differential is idiosyncratic, excluding variables that belong and including variables that do not belong in a wage regression. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Conclusion This paper updates and confirms the findings of Gould and Shierholz (2011). No matter how you slice the data, wages in RTW states are lower, on average, than wages in non-RTW states. As shown in great detail in Gould and Shierholz (2011), these results do not just apply to union members, but to all employees in a state. Where unions are strong, compensation increases even for workers not covered by any union contract, as nonunion employers face competitive pressure to match union standards. Likewise, when unions are weakened by RTW laws, all of a state’s workers feel the impact. View Quote When wages go down, the economy goes down, that can rebound, when Wisconsin loses it's best and brightest to greener pastures, that destroys the State's future. |
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. View Quote I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... I travel for work and talk to a lot of manufacturer's..,, and they struggle to find workers...go to any Machine shop.. they cannot find anyone to run CNC machines.. Again, maybe dirty and shift work) The problem is every liberal educated teacher is telling a generation of kids that they need to go to college, so they don't end up in a dead end job, so they get themselves in debt majoring in 15 Century Russian Poetry, and then wind up doing just that... working as a Barrista at Starbucks with 100K in Debt... All the Pro union types are screaming for the Middle class... but your bought and paid for teachers and telling the kids those blue collar working man jobs are to icky... and that they need a degree.... So tell me how that is working for America... Those jobs are what build us.Now an entire generation is being told that is no way for them to live...Yest, none of them are taking any hard science courses and getting hard science degree... you know who is??? Chinese Vietnamese Indians Pakistani's These are the folks that companies like Proctor and Gamble Henkel Unilever Kraft Heinz Reckit & Benckiser are hiring to be Engineers and R&D. Because our kids are too busy taking light course loads and easy credits to get that Bachelor of Arts degree in basket weaving and French poetry majors... It pisses me off that there are all these opportunities out there for the young to get into an entry level career field and all they have to do is have the drive and willingness to put in the hard work... but because they have had it easy there entire life's.. and compound that with the propaganda being fed to them by teachers who have been living the good life with Tenure and gold standard benefits bought and paid for them by the unions... I'm surprised that you don't see any of that.. but then again... its not something the media really puts out there for the general public to see for what it really is... |
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Harv's post is dead on.
The shop work for needs welders. They pay nearly $25 an hour. It's a union shop. But the union isn't worried about doing anything to fill these positions. (I don't even think they have the openings posted in there lodge for the drunks to see!) What does the union do? Spend like a drunken sailor to try and oust Walker. Actively work for amnesty for illegals so they can fill their member roles. NEWSFLASH: The unions give a flying fuck about the "middle class". Oh, BTW... Lower, middle and upper class are Marxist terms. Unions came about from Marxist and Socialist activists near the turn of the century. Milwaukee has had 3 Socialist mayors during the 20th century. The union worker's utopia in Milwaukee never happened. Curious that Milwaukee is one of the most segregated and violent cities in the US! |
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. Give it a rest dude. Your agenda is clear. You're are not going to gain any support from members on this board. You think I am here to gain support? Your assumption of what my "agenda" is, as clear as mud. Based on you moderating during the whole occutard movement.... Well, it doesn't take a genius to see your agenda. 2 sorts were into the whole occutard movement. Commies and Troofers... Tell me, you believe much in the NWO, Alex Jones, Federal Reserve type non-sense? Or are you inline with the Socialist/Marxist idiots? |
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Which class of society is breeding fastest? At the bottom, the more children you have, the more money you get (from the tax payers). For everyone else, the more children you have the thinner your money is spread and the higher your taxes are. Encourage the lower class, and discourage the rest......it' real easy to guess where is this mess heading? Actually it's where this mess has, and will continue to head.
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Which class of society is breeding fastest? At the bottom, the more children you have, the more money you get (from the tax payers). For everyone else, the more children you have the thinner your money is spread and the higher your taxes are. Encourage the lower class, and discourage the rest......it' real easy to guess where is this mess heading? Actually it's where this mess has, and will continue to head. View Quote You're still here? The unions support this. But you already knew that didn't you? I suspect you have memorized Marx's manifesto. |
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Which class of society is breeding fastest? At the bottom, the more children you have, the more money you get (from the tax payers). For everyone else, the more children you have the thinner your money is spread and the higher your taxes are. Encourage the lower class, and discourage the rest......it' real easy to guess where is this mess heading? Actually it's where this mess has, and will continue to head. View Quote You should know, you and your Union brethren and the democrats you have been voting in have been leading us down that path for years... you just are not intellectually capable of understanding that.. and this stage in your life.. you got yours, and your set... thanks for setting my Daughter and the rest of her generation up to deal with your mess... |
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Quoted: I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... I hear this line of crap all the time. "Lots of jobs in XYZ industry!! Cant find people!" "Ok, what do you pay?" "$9 an hour part time, $10 full, night shift only. No advancement!" Whatever. |
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What pay and benefits they offering for these jobs? I hear this line of crap all the time. "Lots of jobs in XYZ industry!! Cant find people!" "Ok, what do you pay?" "$9 an hour part time, $10 full, night shift only. No advancement!" Whatever. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... I hear this line of crap all the time. "Lots of jobs in XYZ industry!! Cant find people!" "Ok, what do you pay?" "$9 an hour part time, $10 full, night shift only. No advancement!" Whatever. Perhaps you missed my post. $24 an hour for welding. SPX is also hiring in other departments. We make high voltage transformers. But then.... You probably don't want that kind of work. |
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What pay and benefits they offering for these jobs? I hear this line of crap all the time. "Lots of jobs in XYZ industry!! Cant find people!" "Ok, what do you pay?" "$9 an hour part time, $10 full, night shift only. No advancement!" Whatever. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... I hear this line of crap all the time. "Lots of jobs in XYZ industry!! Cant find people!" "Ok, what do you pay?" "$9 an hour part time, $10 full, night shift only. No advancement!" Whatever. How about health, dental, optical, paid vacation,401K, and 13$ to start and you don't have to know a thing.. just pass a drug test, and actually want to work, or is that too much to ask of a new employee... Funny thing, When the Newpage paper mill plant shut down in Kaukauna a few years ago...We had an influx of guys with 10-15 years that were making $30+ an hour looking for work.. but because they all were overpaid with zero skill other then being a #3 brake hand on a paper machine, they could not do anything, and would not work for that wage.. Did they think we were just going to pay them what they were getting at the mill.. The Union really helped them all in that case... What lot of you don't get, because of you limited view of the world.. is the days of dropping out of high school and hooking up with the local mill where you can start making $18 an hour with zero skill are over... and no union is going to bring that back. Thanks to bombing the rest of the world to the stone age in WW2, leaving us the only industrial power with the ability to manufacturing.. Put us in a good place... for awhile... but you had to know the rest of the world was not going to sit idle and let us reign supreme... it is a global market and with technology and the ability to make and ship goods around the globe by nations who want the same thing we want, is forcing us to re-look at how things are done... Nobody owes anybody a high paying job.... its not a right.. You get the right to pursue Life, liberty and happiness... that's it... the rest is on you. Want to drop out of High school.. move to Colorado and spend your day getting high with your slacker buddies??? that is your right... but don't expect me or anyone else to fund it... Want to knock up two women and then not support either... again... go for it, but I'm not funding it... Get your self a gravy union job where you can make $35 an hour using an air tool to spin on 5 lugnuts for 8 hrs a day.. good on you, but when they replace you with a robotic arm that can do it better and faster and never calls in... And now you have a problem with the $450K house you bought for you and your family along with the cottage on a lake up north, your two snowmobiles and your 4 wheelers and your $45K pickup you had to have to haul it all... Thats on you. Everybody wants to live Like Donald Trump.... bu few want to put in the time and effort. And when they can't.. its somebody else's fault... |
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If you think the Republican Party will turn this country around, you are a fool. Both parties are bought and paid for, and don't care about you. Some day you will figure this out. Until then, just keep letting the world how great they are, and how dumb you are.
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If you think the Republican Party will turn this country around, you are a fool. Both parties are bought and paid for, and don't care about you. Some day you will figure this out. Until then, just keep letting the world how great they are, and how dumb you are. View Quote Republicans aren't perfect. But they are far better than the Socialist controlled Democrats and their union money machines. But it's all about not looking dumb right? |
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If you think the Republican Party will turn this country around, you are a fool. Both parties are bought and paid for, and don't care about you. Some day you will figure this out. Until then, just keep letting the world how great they are, and how dumb you are. View Quote If your the benchmark for smart... after seeing your Reserve not getting an ID card thread.... then yea, I guess I'm dumb...Because your intellect is truly on a plane all by it self.... Funny, your a sad little old man who is completely clueless, and your the only one oblivious to it...enjoy whats left of your life... |
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When is Scooter going to get rid of the cop and fire and state patrol unions?
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Recent actions by Boner and Mitch make the Repubs look like idiots. And now Johnson voted for the AG. What a joke.
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Based on you moderating during the whole occutard movement.... Well, it doesn't take a genius to see your agenda. 2 sorts were into the whole occutard movement. Commies and Troofers... Tell me, you believe much in the NWO, Alex Jones, Federal Reserve type non-sense? Or are you inline with the Socialist/Marxist idiots? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. Give it a rest dude. Your agenda is clear. You're are not going to gain any support from members on this board. You think I am here to gain support? Your assumption of what my "agenda" is, as clear as mud. Based on you moderating during the whole occutard movement.... Well, it doesn't take a genius to see your agenda. 2 sorts were into the whole occutard movement. Commies and Troofers... Tell me, you believe much in the NWO, Alex Jones, Federal Reserve type non-sense? Or are you inline with the Socialist/Marxist idiots? 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Has our evil plan to eliminate all unions actually worked? |
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Scott Walker is going to save the Country, like he is saving Wisconsin.
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When is Scooter going to get rid of the cop and fire and state patrol unions? View Quote http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/wisconsin-officials-discuss-streamlining-civil-service-rules-b99298629z1-265300231.html Consolidate 'patronage' system after this budget, then State Troopers first. |
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I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... I travel for work and talk to a lot of manufacturer's..,, and they struggle to find workers...go to any Machine shop.. they cannot find anyone to run CNC machines.. Again, maybe dirty and shift work) The problem is every liberal educated teacher is telling a generation of kids that they need to go to college, so they don't end up in a dead end job, so they get themselves in debt majoring in 15 Century Russian Poetry, and then wind up doing just that... working as a Barrista at Starbucks with 100K in Debt... All the Pro union types are screaming for the Middle class... but your bought and paid for teachers and telling the kids those blue collar working man jobs are to icky... and that they need a degree.... So tell me how that is working for America... Those jobs are what build us.Now an entire generation is being told that is no way for them to live...Yest, none of them are taking any hard science courses and getting hard science degree... you know who is??? Chinese Vietnamese Indians Pakistani's These are the folks that companies like Proctor and Gamble Henkel Unilever Kraft Heinz Reckit & Benckiser are hiring to be Engineers and R&D. Because our kids are too busy taking light course loads and easy credits to get that Bachelor of Arts degree in basket weaving and French poetry majors... It pisses me off that there are all these opportunities out there for the young to get into an entry level career field and all they have to do is have the drive and willingness to put in the hard work... but because they have had it easy there entire life's.. and compound that with the propaganda being fed to them by teachers who have been living the good life with Tenure and gold standard benefits bought and paid for them by the unions... I'm surprised that you don't see any of that.. but then again... its not something the media really puts out there for the general public to see for what it really is... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. I have to call Bullshit on that... The Company I work for is struggling to find Press operators and assistants. These are not bullshit burger flipping jobs, but jobs with benefits and the potential to offer a person a real career learning a good job skill...all you need is the ability to learn ... pass a drug test and show up. The problem is not a lack of jobs... the issue is the left and there spin and the fact that lots of folks don't want to work... They don't want to run a printing press its dirty).. they don't want to work shift work... They want a 9-5 job with a corner office with a 60K salary to start... and they offer ZERO skills to offer an employee... I travel for work and talk to a lot of manufacturer's..,, and they struggle to find workers...go to any Machine shop.. they cannot find anyone to run CNC machines.. Again, maybe dirty and shift work) The problem is every liberal educated teacher is telling a generation of kids that they need to go to college, so they don't end up in a dead end job, so they get themselves in debt majoring in 15 Century Russian Poetry, and then wind up doing just that... working as a Barrista at Starbucks with 100K in Debt... All the Pro union types are screaming for the Middle class... but your bought and paid for teachers and telling the kids those blue collar working man jobs are to icky... and that they need a degree.... So tell me how that is working for America... Those jobs are what build us.Now an entire generation is being told that is no way for them to live...Yest, none of them are taking any hard science courses and getting hard science degree... you know who is??? Chinese Vietnamese Indians Pakistani's These are the folks that companies like Proctor and Gamble Henkel Unilever Kraft Heinz Reckit & Benckiser are hiring to be Engineers and R&D. Because our kids are too busy taking light course loads and easy credits to get that Bachelor of Arts degree in basket weaving and French poetry majors... It pisses me off that there are all these opportunities out there for the young to get into an entry level career field and all they have to do is have the drive and willingness to put in the hard work... but because they have had it easy there entire life's.. and compound that with the propaganda being fed to them by teachers who have been living the good life with Tenure and gold standard benefits bought and paid for them by the unions... I'm surprised that you don't see any of that.. but then again... its not something the media really puts out there for the general public to see for what it really is... http://www.wkow.com/story/28921078/2015/04/28/wisconsin-on-pace-for-most-layoffs-of-walker-administration-in-2015 http://qz.com/396598/the-lies-damn-lies-and-statistics-behind-the-boom-in-americas-right-to-work-laws/ The lies, damn lies, and statistics behind the boom in America’s right-to-work laws
... What really drives an economy The debate about right-to-work laws across the country this legislative session has misdirected our collective focus and energy away from whatsolid evidence suggests will improve states’ economic futures: creating a solid infrastructure, equipping our schools and teachers with resources and seeking out emerging and innovative industries that offer better and more permanent jobs. Scientific research also suggests that improving wages and reducing inequality across the US depends on the existence of strong unions. Although right-to-work laws are proffered as part of a state’s economic development strategy, their real goal is to undermine workers’ collective voice and power. |
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Based on you moderating during the whole occutard movement.... Well, it doesn't take a genius to see your agenda. 2 sorts were into the whole occutard movement. Commies and Troofers... Tell me, you believe much in the NWO, Alex Jones, Federal Reserve type non-sense? Or are you inline with the Socialist/Marxist idiots? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As the Right Reverend Governor Slippery Scott flip-flops his way across the Presidential campaign trail, Wisconsin's downward spiral continues. ... the March numbers are in. https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150416_march_state.pdf 5000 jobs DOWN. Give it a rest dude. Your agenda is clear. You're are not going to gain any support from members on this board. You think I am here to gain support? Your assumption of what my "agenda" is, as clear as mud. Based on you moderating during the whole occutard movement.... Well, it doesn't take a genius to see your agenda. 2 sorts were into the whole occutard movement. Commies and Troofers... Tell me, you believe much in the NWO, Alex Jones, Federal Reserve type non-sense? Or are you inline with the Socialist/Marxist idiots? As far as my conduct as Moderator of this forum in the past. The HTF Archive is loaded with LOCKED threads, read them. You insult me, the CoC, the Forum, VA-Gunnut and his superiors. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_21/449534_Note_to_HTF_Members__Fix_yo_sh_t_.html Posted: 4/20/2011 2:36:33 PM EDT [Last Edit: 4/20/2011 2:45:25 PM EDT by BulletcatchR] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quoted: pfft... sounds like just more pro-union bullshit from FMD - you overly analytic bastard. Seriously though, as a FIB lurker in the WI HTF, it is frustrating and sad to see all the personal attacks. I don't know that I would have the patience of Bulletcatcher with some of the attacks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I try to hold out and hope for some rationality while cultivating my own compassion. and there are times if I think I might have done the hometown forum an injustice with my DGAF (<- about as far as I got on the c0mpassion thing) attitude, and not locking down posts at the first sign of disrespectful discussion. It's the internet, I am old and don't grasp the "weight" some people put on these discussions. too much internet = frontotemporal dementia I know that there can be rational discussion because I have read so on other boards. There was a time I would have put more effort into upholding the highest standards of civility and respect. If I have offended some members because of my slak attitude i apologize. I can understand why people would not want to wade into circle jerk of insults and post their sincere thoughts. I think this division makes the pro 2A community weaker and I have put my time into building bridges with my neighbors and community not burning them. SunTzu or one of those guys had another saying; "There's two kinds of class warfare. Rich vs poor and poor vs poor. Before you pick your battle you need to know your Generals." C361 Stan I get it, you don't like what I am saying, so "lol" and "Attack the Messenger". It's a popular tactic for the Right, I think it's a pussy tactic. |
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You linked a thread started by your buddy, which you locked for no other reason than you disagreed with Flamethrower.
It certainly didn't escalate into personal attacks, and it didn't get heated. You just made yourself look like a fool by posting this. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_21/449534_Note_to_HTF_Members__Fix_yo_sh_t_.html |
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You linked a thread started by your buddy, which you locked for no other reason than you disagreed with Flamethrower. It certainly didn't escalate into personal attacks, and it didn't get heated. You just made yourself look like a fool by posting this. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_21/449534_Note_to_HTF_Members__Fix_yo_sh_t_.html View Quote You are quite dense, you just don't get it. I picked that thread especially for you. |
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You linked a thread started by your buddy, which you locked for no other reason than you disagreed with Flamethrower. It certainly didn't escalate into personal attacks, and it didn't get heated. You just made yourself look like a fool by posting this. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_21/449534_Note_to_HTF_Members__Fix_yo_sh_t_.html You are quite dense, you just don't get it. I picked that thread especially for you. I must be dense. Posts like mine are exactly why FMD made that thread. Well, like... that's just your opinion man. But oddly enough, the only insults in that thread came from you. (Baaa baaa baaa, and your comment upon locking the thread) Oh, and look at your edit of my screen name. But yeah, I must be dense. Given labor union's roots in Socialism and Marxism. Their support of the Democratic Party. Their support of the OWS movement. And their support of the Hands up, don't shoot movement. Unless you support these movements, I have to question why you'd vehemently defend labor unions. |
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Originally Posted By pussymorpheous: Classy move..... Oh, the irony. There is a time and place for everything, even pussy tactics. -StanTzu It's a gamble, stooping low like that, pushing buttons, and I will own it.... it was perfect. Having done that, I apologize to all the anonymous people who I might have offended, and to polymorpheus. |
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Instead of locking this thread for personal attacks, which seems to be a problem in this forum. I would like to know why you guys can't behave yourselves when it comes to these discussions?
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http://www.radioiowa.com/2015/04/25/governor-walker-a-national-right-to-work-law-a-legitimate-goal/
"Straight from the horses mouth". When Scott Walker was 'bragging' Divide and conquer it wasn't to his constituency, it was to his benefactors. Is it arrogance, or ignorance that drives the sheeple to think the same tactics will not be used against them when they are no longer, "useful"? divide di·vide/d?'vid/verb separate or be separated into parts. disagree or cause to disagree. find how many times (a number) contains another. noun a wide divergence between two groups, typically producing tension or hostility. conquer verb \ con·quer \'kä?-k?r : to take control of (a country, city, etc.) through the use of force : to defeat (someone or something) through the use of force : to gain control of (a problem or difficulty) through great effort There isn't a slightest hint of Democracy in "Divide and Conquer". |
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So you're saying it's Walker's fault that the members can't behave themselves?
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Instead of locking this thread for personal attacks, which seems to be a problem in this forum. I would like to know why you guys can't behave yourselves when it comes to these discussions? View Quote Thank you for your patience. In answer to your question, troll thread, would have locked it on page one. The shit gets out of control... |
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Instead of locking this thread for personal attacks, which seems to be a problem in this forum. I would like to know why you guys can't behave yourselves when it comes to these discussions? View Quote Also, on the general topic of civility and respect, the tard 'tag' is thrown around quite a bit in this forum, who can respect a forum that allows that? is this how the WIHTF wants to represent? |
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