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Posted: 1/9/2005 1:33:34 AM EDT

[#1]

Has it been confirmed that the aimpoint 3x will magnify the dot and basically turn a 4MOA dot into a 12MOA dot? It makes me wonder why Aimpoint didn't just extend the eye relief so that the magnifier could be mounted in front of the M2/ML2?

Posted: 1/9/2005 3:55:59 AM EDT

[#2]

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Has it been confirmed that the aimpoint 3x will magnify the dot and basically turn a 4MOA dot into a 12MOA dot? It makes me wonder why Aimpoint didn't just extend the eye relief so that the magnifier could be mounted in front of the M2/ML2?

The dot will be 12 MOA but everything else will also be 3 times closer. So the dot will still appear to be 4 MOA.

Posted: 1/9/2005 9:03:28 AM EDT

[#3]

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Has it been confirmed that the aimpoint 3x will magnify the dot and basically turn a 4MOA dot into a 12MOA dot? It makes me wonder why Aimpoint didn't just extend the eye relief so that the magnifier could be mounted in front of the M2/ML2?

The dot will be 12 MOA but everything else will also be 3 times closer. So the dot will still appear to be 4 MOA.

This is correct. Remember that Aimpoint is also coming out with the ML3 and M3. You will be able to order these with a 2MOA dot (or the 4 MOA if you wish).

C4

Posted: 1/9/2005 10:25:46 AM EDT

[#4]

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Has it been confirmed that the aimpoint 3x will magnify the dot and basically turn a 4MOA dot into a 12MOA dot? It makes me wonder why Aimpoint didn't just extend the eye relief so that the magnifier could be mounted in front of the M2/ML2?

The dot will be 12 MOA but everything else will also be 3 times closer. So the dot will still appear to be 4 MOA.

This is correct. Remember that Aimpoint is also coming out with the ML3 and M3. You will be able to order these with a 2MOA dot (or the 4 MOA if you wish).

C4

What will be the difference between the M2's and M3's besides the dot size?

Posted: 1/9/2005 10:34:23 AM EDT

[#5]

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Has it been confirmed that the aimpoint 3x will magnify the dot and basically turn a 4MOA dot into a 12MOA dot? It makes me wonder why Aimpoint didn't just extend the eye relief so that the magnifier could be mounted in front of the M2/ML2?

The dot will be 12 MOA but everything else will also be 3 times closer. So the dot will still appear to be 4 MOA.

This is correct. Remember that Aimpoint is also coming out with the ML3 and M3. You will be able to order these with a 2MOA dot (or the 4 MOA if you wish).

C4

What will be the difference between the M2's and M3's besides the dot size?

Battery life and submergence levels have improved quite a bit.

C4

Posted: 1/9/2005 10:36:09 AM EDT

[#6]

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Has it been confirmed that the aimpoint 3x will magnify the dot and basically turn a 4MOA dot into a 12MOA dot? It makes me wonder why Aimpoint didn't just extend the eye relief so that the magnifier could be mounted in front of the M2/ML2?

The dot will be 12 MOA but everything else will also be 3 times closer. So the dot will still appear to be 4 MOA.

This is correct. Remember that Aimpoint is also coming out with the ML3 and M3. You will be able to order these with a 2MOA dot (or the 4 MOA if you wish).

C4

What will be the difference between the M2's and M3's besides the dot size?

Battery life and submergence levels have improved quite a bit.

C4

Got any pictures?

Posted: 1/9/2005 10:46:13 AM EDT

[#7]

Got any pictures?

Nope.

C4

Posted: 1/9/2005 11:38:11 AM EDT

[#8]

I also hear there is a push button to turn power off and on. Allows you to "store" your brightness setting and also stops accidental activation of the sight.

Posted: 1/9/2005 12:29:38 PM EDT

[#9]

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I also hear there is a push button to turn power off and on. Allows you to "store" your brightness setting and also stops accidental activation of the sight.

This was/is something that the Aimpoint guys have been talking about for a good year now. They wanted the buttons to be "sorta like" the EOthingy buttons.

Posted: 1/9/2005 3:29:42 PM EDT

[#10]

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I also hear there is a push button to turn power off and on. Allows you to "store" your brightness setting and also stops accidental activation of the sight.

This was/is something that the Aimpoint guys have been talking about for a good year now. They wanted the buttons to be "sorta like" the EOthingy buttons.

Will you still be able to turn the sight on with the dial? Isn't that one of the Aimpoint fans favorite things is that it only takes one action to turn on and adjust the sight?

Posted: 1/9/2005 4:11:39 PM EDT

[#11]

Hey Grant, what can you tell us about this rear sight?

Posted: 1/9/2005 4:24:06 PM EDT

[#12]

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Hey Grant, what can you tell us about this rear sight?

www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LT%20Finished%20Cantilever%20mount.JPG

It is the LT BUIS (with elevation). They are not making them...

C4

Posted: 1/9/2005 5:52:15 PM EDT

[#13]

Grant, you should crop those pics so you don't have to keep fielding queries about that BUIS

Posted: 1/9/2005 6:08:41 PM EDT

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Grant, you should crop those pics so you don't have to keep fielding queries about that BUIS

LOL, I probably should!

C4

Posted: 1/9/2005 6:13:07 PM EDT

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I also hear there is a push button to turn power off and on. Allows you to "store" your brightness setting and also stops accidental activation of the sight.

This was/is something that the Aimpoint guys have been talking about for a good year now. They wanted the buttons to be "sorta like" the EOthingy buttons.

Will you still be able to turn the sight on with the dial? Isn't that one of the Aimpoint fans favorite things is that it only takes one action to turn on and adjust the sight?

No. The switch, while quite popular, is the Aimpoint's wink link. The Aimpoint guy know this.

A hard, direct hit on the switch can result in a catastrophic failure.

Posted: 1/9/2005 6:26:27 PM EDT

[#16]

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No. The switch, while quite popular, is the Aimpoint's wink link. The Aimpoint guy know this.

A hard, direct hit on the switch can result in a catastrophic failure.

But a push button power switch wouldn't eliminate the problem as the adjustments would still be made using a knob. Unless Aimpoint plans on completely redesigning the whole sight.

ETA: I see you used "guy" in the singular form. Does that mean Lumpy now stands alone?

Posted: 1/9/2005 6:41:30 PM EDT

[#17]

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No. The switch, while quite popular, is the Aimpoint's wink link. The Aimpoint guy know this.

A hard, direct hit on the switch can result in a catastrophic failure.

But a push button power switch wouldn't eliminate the problem as the adjustments would still be made using a knob. Unless Aimpoint plans on completely redesigning the whole sight.

ETA: I see you used "guy" in the singular form. Does that mean Lumpy now stands alone?

Lumpy...alone?? Never...not as long as I am here. I misspoke...should be "guys."

In their "idea" the sight would be partially re-designed. There would be no more knob. Everything would be via push-button.

Posted: 1/9/2005 6:46:11 PM EDT

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Lumpy...alone?? Never...not as long as I am here. I misspoke...should be "guys."

Hey, I have to give you Aimpint guys a hard time don't I?

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In their "idea" the sight would be partially re-designed. There would be no more knob. Everything would be via push-button.

Interesting. I still think there are Aimpoint advocates who would object to this. I know many feel the knob is a faster device than the push buttons on the EOTech. I guess we shall have to see how it all plays out.

Posted: 1/10/2005 12:19:13 AM EDT

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Awsome pics!

Can you get any shots of the full rifle with the mount, side view?

Here ya go

Posted: 1/10/2005 4:19:56 AM EDT

[#20]

Nice pic, nice knife, nice blaster.

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Posted: 1/10/2005 4:44:20 AM EDT

[#21]

c4 can you put me on the backorder for the 3x magnifier

Posted: 1/10/2005 5:17:14 AM EDT

[#22]

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c4 can you put me on the backorder for the 3x magnifier

Shoot me an e-mail and I will.

[email protected]

C4

Posted: 1/10/2005 5:18:23 AM EDT

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Awsome pics!

Can you get any shots of the full rifle with the mount, side view?

Here ya go
www.tinypic.com/17v8uw

Nice U2!

C4

Posted: 1/10/2005 6:50:31 AM EDT

[#24]

any view's through it yet?

Posted: 1/10/2005 6:55:28 AM EDT

[#25]

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any view's through it yet?

Pic Removed

Posted: 1/10/2005 8:18:08 AM EDT

[#26]

thats through the 3x?

if so it would help to have an outside shot at about 200m

Posted: 1/10/2005 12:01:19 PM EDT

[#27]

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thats through the 3x?

if so it would help to have an outside shot at about 200m

Sorry 'bout that. I thought you wanted a pic through the Tripower

Posted: 1/10/2005 12:53:53 PM EDT

[#28]

I got mine today, it is the usual Larue piece, with the addition of the battery compartment, which (IMHO), was done properly with the 2 o-rings. And now I can lower the covers w/o hitting my LMT buis and it has the added benefit (for me at least) that the little bit further mounting makes the dot distortions from my slight stigmatism is less noticeable as well

ETA: Pics

Posted: 1/11/2005 5:14:21 PM EDT

[#29]

I got mine. Sorry for the crappy pics, spent all my money on guns...

Damn, I guess I'm going to have to revert back to my ARMS40 when I get the Aimpoint magnifier.

Thanks Grant.

Posted: 1/11/2005 6:02:20 PM EDT

[#30]

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I got mine. Sorry for the crappy pics, spent all my money on guns...

www.hunt101.com/img/240262.jpg

www.hunt101.com/img/240263.jpg

Damn, I guess I'm going to have to revert back to my ARMS40 when I get the Aimpoint magnifier.

Thanks Grant.

DAMN SEXY! You don't need to go back to a flip up rear. Remember that you have can just flip the lever on the LT BUIS and stick it on the side of your rail (or where ever) when you mount the 3X. Then just put it back when your done as it will return to zero.

C4

Posted: 1/14/2005 2:29:16 PM EDT

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Just curious...but why would you use this mount on an MRP?

'Cuz it looks like this

Posted: 1/14/2005 3:53:45 PM EDT

[#32]

Please elaborate?? Looks to me like a lot fo stuff to slap on a upper to gain 3x mag.. Why not just go with a ACOG if you need magnification??

Posted: 1/14/2005 6:23:27 PM EDT

[#33]

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Please elaborate?? Looks to me like a lot fo stuff to slap on a upper to gain 3x mag.. Why not just go with a ACOG if you need magnification??

Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....

C4

Posted: 1/14/2005 6:43:35 PM EDT

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Please elaborate?? Looks to me like a lot fo stuff to slap on a upper to gain 3x mag.. Why not just go with a ACOG if you need magnification??

Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....

C4

+1
It could offer the best of both worlds.
The 3X will most likely use a QD mount from Aimpoint or LT.

Use the 3X with your Aimpoint Optic when your on a perimeter, or moving on an objective.
QD the 3X when you hit the door

Posted: 1/15/2005 5:47:39 AM EDT

[#35]

The 3X is a perfect compliment to the Aimpoint and I believe will sell like hotcakes

Edited to add , if you own an aimpoint this is a no brainer MUST HAVE !

I'm surprised it took this long to get it done. Everyone I know that has an aimpoint has been waiting for something just like the 3X.

Posted: 1/15/2005 6:01:31 AM EDT

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The 3X is a perfect compliment to the Aimpoint and I believe will sell like hotcakes

I guess the Military is just going

for them!

C4

Posted: 1/16/2005 9:50:49 PM EDT

[#37]

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Please elaborate?? Looks to me like a lot fo stuff to slap on a upper to gain 3x mag.. Why not just go with a ACOG if you need magnification??

Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....

C4

Whereas i don't think it sucks for CQB work (there are quite a good number of people on these boards and in the world that are quite good and fast with tthem in close quarters) it is not ideal for everyone. The magnifiers for the EOTech and the Aimpoint give a good amount of versatility and profide very good options in many environmemts and situations without requiring the removal or replacement of the main optic.

Posted: 1/17/2005 5:35:37 AM EDT

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Please elaborate?? Looks to me like a lot fo stuff to slap on a upper to gain 3x mag.. Why not just go with a ACOG if you need magnification??

Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....

C4

Whereas i don't think it sucks for CQB work (there are quite a good number of people on these boards and in the world that are quite good and fast with tthem in close quarters) it is not ideal for everyone. The magnifiers for the EOTech and the Aimpoint give a good amount of versatility and profide very good options in many environmemts and situations without requiring the removal or replacement of the main optic.

You are correct. A lot of folks CAN make them work in a CQB Environment. I imagine most of them are instinctive shooters and it wouldn't matter if they had a banana on there for an optic!

I on the other hand find them very slow at close quarters and would just take the ACOG off and use my irons if I was in the environment.

C4

Posted: 1/17/2005 9:30:39 AM EDT

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Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....
C4

I hardly think BAC ACOGs *suck* for CQB. A lot of people can work them nearly as fast as an Aimpoint alone... if not just as fast. But, not everyone can do it and for some of those who can it takes training. Some of those who need training need to practice more than others, and like I mentioned, there are still a few who just cant seem to get it for whatever reason.

If you have experience with an Aimpoint and still feel the BAC ACOG is working for you, I wouldnt feel like the Aimpoint + Magnifier will work any better. If you cant get the BAC to work for you, or as well, then this is a great new option. I will be getting one for one of my Aimpoint rifles for sure.

I've read most of whats going on and I dont think I quite understood, but is the new aimpoint M3 available now? Is that what was pictured? If so, thats great. I need one B - A - D (BAD)!

Posted: 1/17/2005 9:54:17 AM EDT

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Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....
C4

I hardly think BAC ACOGs *suck* for CQB. A lot of people can work them nearly as fast as an Aimpoint alone... if not just as fast. But, not everyone can do it and for some of those who can it takes training. Some of those who need training need to practice more than others, and like I mentioned, there are still a few who just cant seem to get it for whatever reason.

If you have experience with an Aimpoint and still feel the BAC ACOG is working for you, I wouldnt feel like the Aimpoint + Magnifier will work any better. If you cant get the BAC to work for you, or as well, then this is a great new option. I will be getting one for one of my Aimpoint rifles for sure.

I've read most of whats going on and I dont think I quite understood, but is the new aimpoint M3 available now? Is that what was pictured? If so, thats great. I need one B - A - D (BAD)!

I have been using ACOG's for many years now and BAC works for me. With that being said, I still think that they are a poor choice for CQB work. I do agree that the word "sucks" was a little strong.

The Aimpoint ML3 and M3 are not available yet. The item that is pictured is the Aimpoint 3X magnifier.

C4

Posted: 1/18/2005 7:22:56 PM EDT

[#41]

Email sent to get on the waiting list.

Posted: 1/19/2005 11:21:31 PM EDT

[#42]

there comes a time in every Aimpoint owners life, when he must tag a topic...and for me, that time is now.

tag.

Posted: 1/20/2005 6:27:40 AM EDT

[#43]

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Because the ACOG SUCKS for CQB work. The Aimpoint and the magnifier give you MUCH more flexibility than ACOG and will most likely be a cheaper setup....
C4

I hardly think BAC ACOGs *suck* for CQB. A lot of people can work them nearly as fast as an Aimpoint alone... if not just as fast. But, not everyone can do it and for some of those who can it takes training. Some of those who need training need to practice more than others, and like I mentioned, there are still a few who just cant seem to get it for whatever reason.

If you have experience with an Aimpoint and still feel the BAC ACOG is working for you, I wouldnt feel like the Aimpoint + Magnifier will work any better. If you cant get the BAC to work for you, or as well, then this is a great new option. I will be getting one for one of my Aimpoint rifles for sure.

I've read most of whats going on and I dont think I quite understood, but is the new aimpoint M3 available now? Is that what was pictured? If so, thats great. I need one B - A - D (BAD)!

I have been using ACOG's for many years now and BAC works for me. With that being said, I still think that they are a poor choice for CQB work. I do agree that the word "sucks" was a little strong.

The Aimpoint ML3 and M3 are not available yet. The item that is pictured is the Aimpoint 3X magnifier.

C4

Sorry if this has already been answered...but about when do you think they will be available? Any info on what they are going to change? Any pics?