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Posted: 6/20/2019 12:31:50 PM EDT
We have clone threads devoted to FBI HRT, Secret Service, and tons of SOF stuff but what about the Marshals? Being about the only respectable federal agency left id like to see what these guys are using currently. Anyone have any ideas or pics?
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Posted: 6/20/2019 12:47:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless]
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Posted: 6/20/2019 12:57:15 PM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2019 12:59:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThatGuyTheCooler]
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H&K UMP .45 here, pretty sweet gun
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Posted: 6/20/2019 1:03:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2019 1:53:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin 
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Posted: 6/20/2019 2:03:17 PM EDT
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M4A1 and 6921's are the carbines generally seen in the back of our G-Rides.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 2:14:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611: The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin 
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Posted: 6/20/2019 3:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
A friend of mine runs one that way.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 3:47:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30:
M4A1 and 6921's are the carbines generally seen in the back of our G-Rides. 
No Gucci stuff? |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 3:59:24 PM EDT
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Colt SBR (6933 I think) w/ dot/SF light
Rem 870 G22 |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 4:00:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611: Ive seen it done a lot with the old trijicon reflex stuff, never a eotech. I saw one one time where a guy had it on a detachable carry handle.... |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 4:08:30 PM EDT
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OST
Yes I know not USMS but Border Patrol is updating their uppers to BCM w/MCMR rails. 
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Posted: 6/20/2019 4:14:34 PM EDT
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A lot of them are running SOLGW rifles.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 5:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Definetly workhorses
No Gucci stuff? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Originally Posted By 18B30:
M4A1 and 6921's are the carbines generally seen in the back of our G-Rides.
No Gucci stuff? 18Z50..... |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 6:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: A couple worn MP5SF and an SD with two round round burst only. A couple 870WP models that are tired. The USMS is more about catching bad guys and getting the job done than keeping up w the jones. 18Z50..... 
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Posted: 6/20/2019 7:11:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin Heck, some units mount them that far forward even with flattops.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 7:37:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strela: Why? Makes more sense then mounting it on top of the carry handle. Lots of Aimpoints were mounted that way before there were flattops. Heck, some units mount them that far forward even with flattops. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/2616969739_6a4b989bfd_jpg-986648.JPG |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 8:09:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spiffums:
I got an old A1 carry handle AR that I'm toying with the idea of a goose neck mount. I'd like one of the original Aimpoint mounts but with a modern interface for like a micro or a PA mini. Like so?  If so, shoot me a PM, I'll send one your way. Tig |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 8:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Ive seen it done a lot with the old trijicon reflex stuff, never a eotech. I saw one one time where a guy had it on a detachable carry handle.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
A friend of mine runs one that way. 
Actually works good with an AP or Eotech. Not my preferred, but very much usable. |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 8:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spiffums:
I got an old A1 carry handle AR that I'm toying with the idea of a goose neck mount. I'd like one of the original Aimpoint mounts but with a modern interface for like a micro or a PA mini. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spiffums:
Originally Posted By Strela: Why? Makes more sense then mounting it on top of the carry handle. Lots of Aimpoints were mounted that way before there were flattops. Heck, some units mount them that far forward even with flattops. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/2616969739_6a4b989bfd_jpg-986648.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 8:51:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2019 8:59:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
We have clone threads devoted to FBI HRT, Secret Service, and tons of SOF stuff but what about the Marshals? Being about the only respectable federal agency left id like to see what these guys are using currently. Anyone have any ideas or pics? |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 9:00:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strela: I picked up one of these for one of my A1/A2 guns. Kinda old school. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/4468_jpg-986753.JPG |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 9:02:55 PM EDT
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I feel like with how much of the top of the line gear HRT has, Marshals would have the same or better going after the most dangerous fugitives.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 9:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
I feel like with how much of the top of the line gear HRT has, Marshals would have the same or better going after the most dangerous fugitives. |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:08:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
I feel like with how much of the top of the line gear HRT has, Marshals would have the same or better going after the most dangerous fugitives. Originally Posted By DoctorLove: Much different funding source, plus Marshals are not trained like HRT. Not even close |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball: Wrong Not wrong |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:15:50 PM EDT
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The MN BCA uses Nordic Components NC15 SBRs.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
I was of the understanding the marshals had very strict and intensive training? Funding is a different story. |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:28:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CouchCommando22]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball: Wrong Not wrong |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:29:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorLove:
So Marshals fast rope, do helo insertions, work in a team of highly trained operators using small unit tactics? All the ones I have worked with have been not that impressive |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:41:50 PM EDT
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There's a difference between your run of the mill Deputy Marshal and someone from SOG. That's like giving an infantry grunt shit because he's not as highly trained as Delta.
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: He said you're not wrong lol. |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 10:58:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorLove: So Marshals fast rope, do helo insertions, work in a team of highly trained operators using small unit tactics? All the ones I have worked with have been not that impressive Hell, I met up with my buddy who was in town doing live helo training with some cag guys not to long ago. |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 11:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BCV: Actually, some of them do. Hell, I met up with my buddy who was in town doing live helo training with some cag guys not to long ago. |
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Posted: 6/20/2019 11:08:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kwb377]
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There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking.
A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall. |
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Posted: 6/21/2019 12:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377:
There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking. A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall. |
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Posted: 6/21/2019 1:44:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: Then on top of that you have USMS SOG Not saying SOG is a shitshow, but they aren’t on the same level. And yes, I’ve worked with SOG. |
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Posted: 6/21/2019 10:10:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin |
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Posted: 6/21/2019 10:45:29 AM EDT
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I have a good friend that is a US Marshall. Let's say somebody gets all messed up on meth, robs a bank, kills three tellers, and holes up in a dirtbag motel and wants to play bad ass. My friend is who they send to dig him out. Super nice young man with a great family. Glad I know him.
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Posted: 6/21/2019 10:54:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball:
Still not on the same level as HRT. Not saying SOG is a shitshow, but they aren’t on the same level. And yes, I’ve worked with SOG. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FRBaseball:
Originally Posted By cone256: Then on top of that you have USMS SOG Not saying SOG is a shitshow, but they aren’t on the same level. And yes, I’ve worked with SOG. |
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Posted: 6/21/2019 12:57:51 PM EDT
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On the subject of rifles, one of the guys I have worked with has a new personal rifle that was from an approved list. He had an issued M4 that was pretty worn in
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Posted: 6/21/2019 9:30:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kc-coyote]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kwb377:
There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking. A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall. 
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Posted: 6/22/2019 11:50:10 AM EDT
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Time to Stop the dick measuring contests and get this thread back on track 1789.
USMS guns include MAC-10 in 9mm (it was the 1980 and disco was on life support!) 870’s in all flavors to include the WP model. Model 66 snubbies SW 59 Sig 226 M16 M4A1 Glock 22,23,19M MP5 UMP And the AUG I brought to the party. |
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Posted: 6/22/2019 12:32:54 PM EDT
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DUSM’s issued gear I’ve seen is legit—FirstSpear etc. Some pictured rifles might be personally owned setups.
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USA
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Posted: 6/23/2019 1:05:21 AM EDT
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1 L in Marshals
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Posted: 6/23/2019 12:10:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: iNeXile556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidwestJ:
1 L in Marshals |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 7:47:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ThatGuyTheCooler]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BLKVooDoo: They contract out all the work to the BCA and Sheriff's departments here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BLKVooDoo: They contract out all the work to the BCA and Sheriff's departments here. Originally Posted By kwb377:
There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking. A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 7:59:25 AM EDT
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So I take it no one has any pics then?
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Posted: 6/24/2019 8:04:59 AM EDT
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