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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:35:34 PM EDT
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Zumbo gonna take a nsty black eye on this one. Ive emailed both outdoor life and remington as well.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:37:03 PM EDT
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As I said I would do in my post to Mr. Zumbo's blog, I've already emailed Remington with my thoughts on the matter and asked specifically if they endorsed his comments. I'll post a response if I get one. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:37:26 PM EDT
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What a fucking goober.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:38:38 PM EDT
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The thing of it is: he's yesterday's man.
In the local gun shops, NOBODY is buying hunting rifles or gear. Nobody. It's all "assault weapons" and handguns, and the ammo to go with them. People buy it by the case, and the shotgun shell boxes are gathering dust. REMINGTON shotgun shells, Mr Zumbo.... People are buying WOLF, milsurp, Lake City .223, .308 and 7.62x39 like it's going out of style, which hunting seems to be. Suburbanites love to shoot. probably more so than hunters, most of whom we rarely see at the local gun clubs I'm a member at. And when they do show up, in the hunting season, to resight their guns, we get the hell out of there, because we know somebody's going to get hurt, since these guys rarely fire their guns. To them, a gun is a tool, like a bow and arrow. If guns got taken away, they'd just shrug and pick up a fishing rod. Yesterday's men. 
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:40:27 PM EDT
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Somebody wrote this on there. I don't even know what to say. He obviously didn't read any of the comments or ever shot an AR for that matter. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:40:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:41:37 PM EDT
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Sigline is below, not above. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:41:41 PM EDT
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If he's shooting a Mauser-derived hunting rifle, then that is EXACTLY what they were designed for- killing people. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:41:46 PM EDT
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After some searching, I found they are a product of Time Warner. A phone number listed on their(Time Warner) website is (212)484-8000. I'm sure we could leave some voicemails or wait untill Tuesday to let them know where we stand. It would better to have a direct line to Outdoor Life, but I figure they keep that secret for reasons like this.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:42:54 PM EDT
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oh i see |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:44:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:45:29 PM EDT
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Gentlemen and ladies
Consider writing your comments ahead of time in a word or notebook document instead of writing them directly in an email or comment box, Let them sit awhile. Read them over, make corrections, and tweak the language to say precisely what you want. Then post your thoughts. Leave the drama out, but be clear that Zumbo's comment is unacceptable to a broad spectrum of shooters. His comment about never seeing an AR type in the field makes me wonder how much time he spends shooting prairie dogs. As near as I can tell, AR's are very popular. It has taken about 5 years around here, but the hard core dog shooters have figured out that an AR is useful and a hoot to shoot in the dog towns. Most of them will admit to owning one nowadays. We should also wonder why he's afraid of a firearm. I'm also wondering if he's up for a shooting match - my gas operated bolt action against any rifle in his rack. I would stipulate that it be a rifle he bought out of his own pocket for street price, not a sweetened deal from a gun maker. I'll bet Zumbo will show up at the NRA convention in April --------- |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:46:37 PM EDT
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Unbelieveable what this guy said. I'm sure our troops feel great knowing they trust their lives to "terrorist weapons." As has been said many times here, once the gun grabbers finish banning semi-autos, they'll move on to those "precision sniper rifles," otherwise known as scoped bolt-action hunting rifles. As shooters, all we have is each other. If we are not watching each other's back, who is?
The type of rifle a person decides to hunt or shoot with doesn't make him a poor marksman, or someone who wants to play Rambo! We should be spreading a positive message about the shooting sports and the people who participate in them, not feeding into the notion that a certain group of firearms are for terrorists and have no legitimate sporting purpose. Such ignorance in this day and age leaves me completely dumbfounded. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:47:01 PM EDT
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+1,000 Thanks from the bottom of our hearts. Zumbo is out of touch. The type of rifle you carry says NOTHING about your hunting ethics. Writing crap such his spewage provides fodder for the thoughtless idiots who care nothing for the 2nd Amendment, as long as no one tries to take away their "huntin' gun." GO GET 'EM!!! |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:47:33 PM EDT
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I have spoken.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:47:34 PM EDT
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Its in the original post. Just not hot linked. Copy and paste. Blog comments at bottom of page. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:48:06 PM EDT
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if he gets an invitation.... |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:50:22 PM EDT
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The company line at Time Warner on guns is: Guns are evil, guns are bad. Tell your mom, turn in your dad. Just read Time magazine, and watch some of the TV shows and movies put out by their media companies- you'll see. 
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:54:09 PM EDT
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My response:
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:54:28 PM EDT
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Left my $.02 worth to Zumbo and to the editors.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:54:55 PM EDT
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Freaking Fudds.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:55:34 PM EDT
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I'd like to email Remington, but can't find an email address. Could you post it? I would imagine that Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, would be interested to know that he and his company are being associated with a call to ban firearms. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:55:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:56:27 PM EDT
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Fucking stupid fudds. 
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:56:46 PM EDT
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According to the guy quoted above, shooting a wild deer is more noble than defending your house and family from looters. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:56:56 PM EDT
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A fire mission on the NRA, hoping they invite him to stay away? I like it! |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 6:58:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:00:16 PM EDT
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For what it'll be worth, I left a comment as well.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:00:31 PM EDT
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Sadly, the NRA doesn't care about black rifles either. 
 Even funnier because I wrote it. 
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:01:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Another silly quote. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:03:21 PM EDT
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As noted, the sig line is below. I did post, but you know better than to ask if I would post such drivel. Silly boy.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:03:31 PM EDT
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Excellent statement. The pen is deadlier than the sword. Make sure your statement is professional and represents the intelligence, faith, fortitude and knowledge of the citizens. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:04:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:05:21 PM EDT
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As previously noted, the sig line is at the bottom. I admit it does make it seem the other way around, but the Gunny did not post what you think he did. His post is above his sig. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:05:23 PM EDT
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LOL,actually i thought it was someone on here trying to pull one on ya, lol i knew it wasnt actually you. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:06:01 PM EDT
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Wow. I've always respected your articles and opinions.
Till now. You really pissed off a lot of people with that idiotic statement, ahem, article, ahem, tripe. You've stated an opinion on so called assualt rifles". Now, please allow me my opinion on your "sporting" rifle. Do you really find pleasure in vaporizing a rodent at 500 yards? Wow, that must be quite a rush. You seem to derive a great deal of satisfaction doing that. You must take great pride in owning and maintaining a quality piece of equipment and in being more than capable of making a difficult shot at distance. Now, take that pride in skill and equipment and transfer that over to my area of expertise - owning, hunting and skillfully shooting a military grade firearm, in this case a Bushmaster XM-15 E2S, an AR-15 to you. This same weapon in select fire version (3 shot burst and full auto in some cases)is carried by thousands of US servicemen and women today. Are you calling them terrorists? Is that where your mindset is at? That seems to be what your saying. You should immediatly and without delay apoligize to the US Serviceman, right now. After that, you should resign your position as a so called Sports writer. Oh, by the way, my subscription to Outdoor life will be cancelled first thing Tuesday morning. I refuse to help pay for a sponsor of your assinine opinions. Gregg K. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:06:51 PM EDT
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Terrorist can't afford AR15's.
For example... That kid that went into the shopping mall in Utah, what was he carrying? A shotgun! So does that make our Vice President a terrorist? I'm glad now I didn't re-new my subscription for Outdoor Life. I'm gonna let the Field&Stream subscription expire too. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:07:21 PM EDT
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I just sent this message through Remington's customer service site.
This evening I discovered that Jim Zumbo, a writer for Outdoor Life, penned what I consider one of the most irresponsible columns by a gunwriter that I have ever had the displeasure to read. http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html Is the opinion stated by Mr. Zumbo the one that Remington holds? If it is not a view held by Remington, it would be wise to remove any and all of your advertising that is shown on the site. A site that just called for the abrogation of our 2 nd Amendment Rights. I ask Remington to carefully consider if it neds to continue its relationship with a publication that is calling for such an attack upon our Constitution. Doubt it will do much good if just I do it, but I think that if everyone who posted here does it 
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:08:55 PM EDT
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Man I wish I were a fly on his wall when he reads this. His other articles have like 15 responses, this one has like 100 and the night is still young. With such a small article that he wrote, he sure as heck alienated quite a few people huh?
I was wondering if he has the same class as Massad Ayoob and sign on here to defend his stand on it. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:09:21 PM EDT
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what a jerkhunter,
ar15's rule, ak47's rule, pump shotguns rule, side by side shotguns rule, 30 30's rule, bolt rifles rule, handguns rule, compound bows rule ... |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:10:56 PM EDT
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I'd also like to find an email for Remington. I've had the email typed up for awhile now, but have yet to find an address to send it to even after searching for about 45 minutes. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:15:23 PM EDT
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Et tu Zumbo?
2nd Amendment: Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears; I come to bury the 2nd Amendment, not to praise it. The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones: (80) So let it be with the 2nd Amendment. The noble Zumbo Hath told you the 2nd was ambitious: If it were so, it was a grievous fault; And grievously hath the 2nd answer'd it. Here, under leave of Zumbo and the rest,-- (85) For Zumbo is an honourable man; So are they all, all honorable men,-- Come I to speak in the 2nd's funeral. It was my friend, faithful and just to me: But Zumbo says he was ambitious; (90) And Zumbo is an honourable man. He hath brought many captives home to Rome, Whose ransoms did the general coffers fill: Did this in the 2nd Amendement Caesar seem ambitious? When that the poor have cried, the 2nd hath wept: (95) Ambition should be made of sterner stuff: Yet Zumbo says it was ambitious; And Zumbo is an honourable man. You all did see that on the Lupercal I thrice presented him a kingly crown, (100) Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition? Yet Zumbo says it was ambitious; And, sure, he is an honourable man. I speak not to disprove what Zumbo spoke, But here I am to speak what I do know. (105) You all did love the 2nd Amendment once,--not without cause: What cause withholds you, then, to mourn for it?-- O judgment, thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason!--Bear with me; My heart is in the coffin there with the 2nd Amendment, (110) And I must pause till it come back to me. Shakespeare was great...I just made it a bit more relevant though.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:15:25 PM EDT
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Thanks for sticking up for me, Larry! River Rat, Don't worry, you were at least the third person to have made that mistake. And before anyone else calls BS on me, this was my post:
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:19:10 PM EDT
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Shit, I just got an e-mail from someone who thought the same thing you did. Damn! |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:22:13 PM EDT
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You are indeed correct. The gunny was rather eloquent. Must go back and edit my post know. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:24:38 PM EDT
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[Elvis] Thank You! Thank You, verah much!! [/Elvis] 
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:25:36 PM EDT
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Everybody needs to check their fire.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:27:03 PM EDT
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David Fortier- now my favorite gun writer in the business. I was never really a fan until I saw his signed post on the Outdoor Life feeback to the Zumbo article.
David, your integrity and committment to our sport and our cause is commendable. Never will I say a harsh word about you again. |
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:28:00 PM EDT
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FYI, Outdoorlife is owned by Time4 Media, which also owns Field&Stream and Popular Science.
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Posted: 2/17/2007 7:28:44 PM EDT
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+1 It's way to easy to get carried away with this. I'm done posting, I've said what I had to say. |
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