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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:10:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Who's got the popcorn?
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:10:46 PM EDT
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Holy fucking shit.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:14:35 PM EDT
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You certainly do not know what you're talking about. 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:15:34 PM EDT
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Amen to that. When a buddy of mine was offered contract with CB. I asked around and was told he should run like a motherfucker. When I got just some details, it was definately correct advice. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:22:35 PM EDT
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I'm no expert, but I can vouch for them. I had the pleasure of some firearms training there. Met many of the staff, some of the contractors, and then some. Some of the nicest and knowledgable people in the biz. Its really an insult calling them Mercs. 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:25:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:30:23 PM EDT
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why is it insulting to call them mercs? because they dont do offensive operations? im not trying to start a fight . it just seems like you guys are arguing over semantics.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:31:18 PM EDT
[#8]
LOTS of people around here should wake the heck up to that fact. 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:32:05 PM EDT
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J, stop with the bigs words bro, your gonna confuse someone. 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:36:10 PM EDT
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The people I meant at the Republican Palace were some of the most professional, smartest, security people I have ever meant. Maybe some of the teams, somewhere, are not too sharp, as in any organization, but the ones working for high profile subjects were the best in the world.
Definatly a very worthy postion to strive for. Much better than mall nija! (Which sounds like where some people get their insight into the world of "death" 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:39:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Some antics? I'm always up for some antics! |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:43:43 PM EDT
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maybe you should look that up in the dictionary if its to big of a word for ya
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:49:11 PM EDT
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LOL, My cold remedy had me in left feild last night,
BUT they ARE Mercs. Yes I am a bit jealous. Too old to worry about it. The "Thug" statement was out of line. The legal suit is real, and I would back them on the fighting of it. The Upper leaders ( I think there is 3 founders) 2 are as flamboyant as all get out and I dont think that is professional! DO you think tehy do NOT do offenseive black ops? PLEASE!! They work for teh Gov't!! Wake the hell up. What better way than to hire Mercs to do the things you do not want to get caught doing! NOW, as for the guys in the "shit" My heros!! Do they know what they are doing? HELL YES, for the most part. They have gotten owned a few times, the nature of the game. I do know they are not paying their guys..... wait,,,, thuse guys know what they were getting into when they joined up, so who I am I to say was is fair pay for being a " hired gun". Flame on fellas!!! I can take it 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:50:49 PM EDT
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Semantics. Offensive operations? I have a video of the BW guys in Najaf doing something, looks like offensive operations if you call shooting hajiis with guns offensive operations. Anyone who spends even a feww minutes researching BW knows they have been up to their eyeballs in hard core combat in Iraq. I have respect for the guys, and do not consider it offensive if I call them mercenaries. I can also use my education to read a dictionary. So if you can smell dictionary, maybe you can STFU and do not talk down to me pal. Just because you have posted here a bazillion times does not mean you are the ar15.com expert on military ops.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:50:56 PM EDT
[#15]
You need to lay off whatever it is you are on. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:56:09 PM EDT
[#16]
What makes you say that? |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:56:35 PM EDT
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I guess you never saw Lethal Weapon 3..... |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 3:56:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Funny how folks who have not posted a 1000+ times on AR15 are always spoken down to by the mega posters. As if that means the thousand plus posters have some type of superior knowledge or information. Maybe it means that they spend all their time on the interent instead of doing jobs, having kids, you know, real life stuff. Just a thought.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:00:06 PM EDT
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no they aren't doing any sort of black-ops because "teh Gov't" as you call it already *has* people for that. You know.....the guys most of the blackwater guys *used to be*? Special Forces, SEALs, DELTA, Force-Recon. You know...those guys? |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:00:08 PM EDT
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Just for some information, the term/name "Blackwater" comes from the color of the water in this general area, that is from the peat moss. There's a section in southern Va. Beach, a road and the corporation named after it.
As for the OWNER, there has only been one owner there, ever. Out of the four original employee's, three are still there. the one referred to as one of the initial owners, wasn't there until after some time. There is a reason why they are such a huge, thriving organization today. Offering quality services to those requiring such a thing. It's amazing why the different "groups" attend there, isn't it? 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:00:20 PM EDT
[#21]
You got that right. Bomber |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:02:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Did you get the info that you wanted Pat?
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:02:57 PM EDT
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So it was Blackwater that shot Mr. Whittington. "I do know they are not paying their guys..... wait,,,, thuse guys know what they were getting into when they joined up, so who I am I to say was is fair pay for being a " hired gun". Can you decode that for me? I don't think you are going to get flamed so much as ridiculed. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:03:34 PM EDT
[#24]
 Anyways, Good luck mrraley, I hope you get the job. Please keep us posted.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:05:26 PM EDT
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I think it is funny, you post something that they "THINK" they know about or whatever. Not knowing anything about the person posting, such as in my case. They have know idea where I grew up, how, or anything. If or at all I am involved with the Gubment. I will say this I grew up in and ON NOB and everyother base in the tidewater area. I have been on posts that were hit by BRAC, More ships than most Sailors. Seen stuff that the engineers have BUILT that no one here would believe. Talked to a few Big Brass from DC to Yuma. Am I ex MIL? NO Have I done a LOT of Gov't work? YES! I bet 90% of the wanna be's have never even Heard of White Oak, and the signifigance it played in Nam! SO I make a statement that piss' someone off and I am a goober , that is funny! I could care less, but like one guy said, YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS HERE! |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:06:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Yes. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:09:16 PM EDT
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Woohoo! A resume pissing contest! This is gonna get good. Can you give us details, or is it still classified? |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:11:27 PM EDT
[#28]
No it is NOT, I would LISTEN to any BW member in a SECOND, as for the rest  |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:27:53 PM EDT
[#29]
sloooow down baby. Talk more DELTA to me. Is it just me? or could Britney Spears have used some BLACKWATER protection when she went to Starbucks? Some high-profile celeb using BLACKWATER security. Priceless.  I'm just playin' but the idea is still great. I wonder how the paparazzi would do when faced with the presence of the Evil Black Rifle...All jokes aside. I never knew just how scared people really are of the AR-15. Everytime I show someone mine they actually STEP BACK like it's a snake. 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:35:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:44:52 PM EDT
[#31]
ChunkyLover53 My appologies.... I say take it reguardless. It will look good on a resume' |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:50:51 PM EDT
[#32]
You will be entering in a realm of death. I may start evey one of my posts with that.
FUCKING CLASSIC Bro has MAD NINJA SKILZZZZ!!!! I can't quit laughing. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:53:41 PM EDT
[#33]
A member has sent me a note. I now stand corrected. A contractor is a former Marine, Army puke, Sailor, etc who engages in para-military type ops for the US government. A mercenary is someone who pimps themselves out to anybody, even undesirable elemetns like Hamas, etc. So I was wrong to call BW guys mercenaries and now can see a difference.
That said, BW guys have been involved in combat. And handled themselves very well. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:01:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Speaking of contractor companies over in the sandbox, how hard is it to get into some of the better ones?
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:03:46 PM EDT
[#35]
just tell them that you have over 20,000 posts at AR15.com and they will know what a expert you are and take you on the spot.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:09:16 PM EDT
[#36]
IF IF IF...... And BTW why dont you show us your DD214 if your such a bada$$? |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:10:28 PM EDT
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/Homer Simpson If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts..... How does the rest of that go? /Homer Simpson |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:42:33 PM EDT
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I think Article 47 of the Geneva Convention covers the criteria for being a mercenary quite well. Try reading it and youll probably realise where you went wrong. There have been a number of threads on this 'mercenary versus contractor' topic, and they all end the same way. BW hasnt been in any combat that I know of. Being shot at a few times and defending yourself doesnt constitute 'combat' as far as I know. If you mean Najaf, well, maybe one day the real story of the Najaf firefight will come out. If you have sharp ears, you will get a clue listening to the soundtrack on the famous videos floating around the internet. The guys I know that were there have quite a different version of events than what Ive seen talked about on here. Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story, though. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:48:10 PM EDT
[#39]
I bet 90% of the wanna be's have never even Heard of White Oak, and the signifigance it played in Nam!
Omy... you did not just mention the Nam..... Im embarrased for you. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:54:25 PM EDT
[#40]
You have just described every Dept of Motor Vehicle Inspector and clerk I have had the pleasure in doing business with. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 5:59:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:00:14 PM EDT
[#42]
You know what? When I was in the teams......never mind....my clearance won't let me speak.....disregard this post...really disregard.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:04:26 PM EDT
[#43]
this is some of the weakest flaming I have ever seen
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:20:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Yeah, but it boosts their post counts.
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:28:13 PM EDT
[#45]
mrraley: Good luck to you in your job quest. Sorry your thread got hijacked by a know-nothing moron.
Outsider_10fp : I just don't know where to begin. I'd chuckle at your comments if they werent so damned idiotic. The Nam? Mercs? You came from the town where 3-4 of the founders came from? You are an assclown. You have no idea what you're talking about and everyone here knows it (looks like cannoncockerUSMC got squared away.) Please wow us with the tales of your government service in the Nam. You said you weren't in the military, so it must be GS-14 classified right? No, I know, you were a CIA paramilitary operative operating in Cambodia? ETA: A cop is a hired gun, a soldier is a hired gun. Log off. Please. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:35:08 PM EDT
[#46]
+1 Pat is a good fellow. |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:38:59 PM EDT
[#47]
Main Entry: 1mer·ce·nary
Pronunciation: 'm&r-s&n-"er-E Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -nar·ies Etymology: Middle English, from Latin mercenarius, irregular from merced-, merces wages -- more at MERCY : one that serves merely for wages; especially : a soldier hired into foreign service I stand corrected! My appologies! But they are still hired guns 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 6:58:22 PM EDT
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1. Assclown
One, who, through the fault of his parents conception, is a skid mark in society's collective underwear. You, my good sir, are an assclown. 2. assclown 1. A person who, while under the influence, makes a complete fool of himself while attempting humor. An assclown may wear an asshat. 2. A person who, while making a serious attempt as something, fails to realize what a complete fool he has made of himself. 3. An untalented schmuck. A. That assclown thought he was being funny when he pretended to choke at the party, but everyone thought he was just being foolish. B. The actor, while in character, made such an assclown of himself during the production that most of the audience started to talk during his monologues. C. That assclown can't play the guitar at all. 3. assclown A person who is laughable and detestable at the same time.Usually pretends to be a know-it-all,often enhancing their stories,knowledge, experience,and every thing in between with pure bullshit. 
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Posted: 2/21/2006 7:10:35 PM EDT
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you people READ what you WANT to read, NOWHERE did I say ANYTHING about what my role was in ANY Gov't situation OTHER than I have WORKED with OR FOR Uncle SAM!
And for a personal FLAME on ME because you cannot read, You sir are a Fucktard! My Post about NAM was that of Whiteoak, NOT ANYWHERE did I say I WAS IN VN!! Dumbass!!! Now giving the fact that I have worked around the Mil and Gov't my entire life , did you ever think I may have EVER talked to ANYONE AT ALL???? NOW WHO IS THE ASSCLOWN ASSHAT AND DIPSHIT?!?!?!? Obviously you are not a recipient of RIF! ( Reading is Fundamental) You with your "I read a word or two and post a response, will get this thread LOCKED. Keep the FLAMES on a somewhat decent level. ETA COP Function: noun Etymology: short for 3copper : POLICE OFFICER ---------------------------- Main Entry: police officer Function: noun : a member of a police force ---------------------------- Main Entry: 1sol·dier Pronunciation: 'sOl-j&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English soudier, from Middle French, from soulde pay, from Late Latin solidus solidus 1 a : one engaged in military service and especially in the army b : an enlisted man or woman c : a skilled warrior 2 : a militant leader, follower, or worker 3 a : one of a caste of wingless sterile termites usually differing from workers in larger size and head and long jaws b : one of a type of worker ants distinguished by exceptionally large head and jaws No place do I see "hired Gun" ----------------------------------------------------------- Main Entry: hired gun Function: noun : an expert hired to do a specific job; especially : HIRELING -- often used disparagingly One more thing...... I did not insult nor intend to insult ANY person serving in Iraq. I did however voice my opinion of the CEO's of BW. NEVER will I show one ounce of disrespect for ANY SOLDIER in battle defending my right to voice my opinion. I still call you a fucktard for your comments, BUT I do HOWEVER thank you for being over there and doing what you do! |
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Posted: 2/21/2006 7:15:56 PM EDT
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Got clean credit? Clean background? Lots of Military experience? Can you pay to take a few of their classes? Do you have the patience? Apply... the worst they can say is no, thank you. |
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