So.....I hope.........

Marines....Army....AirForce...Navy....

Service is honorable.

Quoted: Quoted: They're the same, but the Marines get all the glory. Marines in uniform don't bother me. its the ones who pull one tour, get out, and then talk shit for the rest of their lives that get annoying.  I mean, if its so shit hot, why did ya bail out?

I get annoyed with the ones that get out, join the ARMY National Guard, then spend their time bad mouthing the Guard, and bragging about how great the Marines are.  Why get out? Find a Marine Corps Reserve unit and join that instead.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They're the same, but the Marines get all the glory. Marines in uniform don't bother me. its the ones who pull one tour, get out, and then talk shit for the rest of their lives that get annoying.  I mean, if its so shit hot, why did ya bail out? I get annoyed with the ones that get out, join the ARMY National Guard, then spend their time bad mouthing the Guard, and bragging about how great the Marines are.  Why get out? Find a Marine Corps Reserve unit and join that instead.

It can give you a serious case of culture shock. I had my first drill last weekend, and by the end of the day Saturday I was ready to pack it in and find a unit that wasn't so fucked up. It wasn't until I was taking a shower that night that I realized what the problem was. The 48th Bde is deployed, and the Guard troops that I have met so far are the ones that got left behind, for various reasons.

I started on ADSW orders working with the recruiters a couple of weeks ago, and I have to say that I like the Guard so far. It's got most of the things I liked about the Marine Corps and lacks most of the stuff I hated.

I'll always take more pride in having been a Marine, but I recognize that the National Guard and the Marine Corps are not even similar, nor are they supposed to be.

Quoted: There are many ways to serve your country,but all of us that have served allways respect the Air Borne,Rangers,SPOPS,or Marines! To say that they have not earned special respect is just that(one must respect that which is unique)I don't mean that anyone that has served is not special! Just we must remember that the extra mile they go just to be exceptional is sometimes forgotten! The Marines were first in and hit hard in the Japan Island wars,the Army was fighting the Europian War!  The Army and the Airborne fought a lot of Germans,the Marines both! We are the Armed Forces(Army,Navy,Air Force and the Marines!!)! I wish I could said I was a Marine,same as I wish I could say I'm part Apache!! Cause they are damn good fighters!!! Bob

From www.ww2-airborne.us/units/187/187.html
"In May 1944, the Regiment deployed with the Division to the southwest Pacific debarking at Lae, New Guinea. On November 18th, the entire 11th Airborne Division landed on Bito Beach on Leyte. Four days later the 11th relieved the 7th Infantry Division. Initially, the 187th under Colonel Harry D Hildebrand (picture left) were charged with guarding the rear installation around Bito Beach. However, in the ensuing days the Japanese mounted their only airborne operation against US forces in WW II an jumped on the San Pablo airstrip on Leyte. General Swing immediately ordered a counterattack and rushed the 187th forward from Bito Beach. During the battle the 1st Battalion of the 187th captured the Japanese paratroopers flag which hangs today in the West Point Museum. Meanwhile, the 2nd Battalion of the 187th under the command of Lt Col Arthur H Wilson Jr reinforced the 511th. Two days after Christmas the 187th moved to attack the Japanese positions at Anonang on two steep parallel ridges. The second ridge became known as Purple Heart Hill because of the large contingent of glidermen killed and wounded while taking it. After two days of ferocious fighting the ridge was seized.

In January 1945, the 187th landed with the Division at Nasubu Bay, south of Manila to seize Tagaytay Ridge and to advance on Manila from the south. From January to April the 187th was in constant action, ranging from Nichols Field, Fort McKinley and Manila to Mount Macolod and Malepunyo.


In May, the Regiment moved into Lipa to refit, rebuild, and prepare for (he Invasion of Japan. At this time, the 3rd Battalion was formed and the Regiment was redesigned a para-glider regiment. When the war ended, the 187th was selected to spearhead the occupation of Japan and gained the distinction of being the first foreign round combat unit to enter Japan."

Also shows the 7th Infantry Divison was there.
History of the 7th ID

The 25th ID are the ones that landed on Gualdano Canal
History of the 25th ID, the "Tropic Lightnings"

Need I continue?

I like the indoctrination of the Marines better than the Army.  Once a Marine, always a Marine.  And their cooks might be harder than our (Army) cooks, but I'll put an Army dogface up against a Marine grunt anyday, and I'll bet they are roughly equal in most respects.
The Army is big enough that usually, though it's changing, we can let the specialists in killing handle the actual fighting, and let the mechanics, or suplly people do their jobs.  Of course it's chaning now.  We have cooks in Irak doing patrols, while KBR is doing the cooking (or managing the TCN's/LN's doing the actual cooking).
Unless you are intimately familiar with their techniques, I'd doubt that if you looked at a platoon of each doing say, a raid, that you'd be able to tell the difference (assuming the same uniforms were being worn- preemtive strike for you smart asses out there)
The biggest difference IMO?
Their camoflauge colors are different.
It says "US Marines" on their chest, and US ARMY on ours.
They have the "globe and anchor" on their CACs and we have the Army seal on ours.

Quoted: I started on ADSW orders working with the recruiters a couple of weeks ago, and I have to say that I like the Guard so far. It's got most of the things I liked about the Marine Corps and lacks most of the stuff I hated. I'll always take more pride in having been a Marine, but I recognize that the National Guard and the Marine Corps are not even similar, nor are they supposed to be.

The Guard is a culture shock for those of us that came from the Active Army too.  It's a different world almost.  But I do have to wonder if the Marine Corps Reserve is as different from the active Marines as the NG is from the active Army.  And of course every unit is different.

I wasn't meaning those that just say that the Marines were better. That's fine.  But the ones that always bring up how the Marines were so much better at almost everything, and how screwed up the Army is for this and that.  Actually it's not just former Marines, it former of any branch that switch to another.  

Quoted: Quoted: I started on ADSW orders working with the recruiters a couple of weeks ago, and I have to say that I like the Guard so far. It's got most of the things I liked about the Marine Corps and lacks most of the stuff I hated. I'll always take more pride in having been a Marine, but I recognize that the National Guard and the Marine Corps are not even similar, nor are they supposed to be. The Guard is a culture shock for those of us that came from the Active Army too.  It's a different world almost.  But I do have to wonder if the Marine Corps Reserve is as different from the active Marines as the NG is from the active Army.  And of course every unit is different. I wasn't meaning those that just say that the Marines were better. That's fine.  But the ones that always bring up how the Marines were so much better at almost everything, and how screwed up the Army is for this and that.  Actually it's not just former Marines, it former of any branch that switch to another.

Don't worry, I knew exactly who you were talking about.

The guys that spend an entire weekend talking about how much better the Marine Corps is, how bad the Guard sucks, and how much better the Guard could be if it were exactly like the Marine Corps. The ones that start every statement with "If this was the Marines......."

i can't believe that this is only 5 pages.  I expected a much different thread.  Nice to see all taking pride in what they do and for whom.  The USA!  All services are different and it is great to see all the respect and recognition of the Armed Forces truth.  I guess i expected the negative and lots o trolls.

Slight hijack:

To those who have the desire to serve and feel capable of being an asset but may struggle with waivers and potential dissapointment and rejection for any number of reasons.  Many of which will not prevent you from becoming a better rifleman than the vast majority of the Armed forces(my educated/first hand  guess).  I do not think that this is not the case in the Marine Corps.  
         
But to those who want to serve but truely can't,  being a rifleman, maintaining your skill, and educating others about becoming safe and deadly with a GI type rifle is the next best thing.   And it is no small thing.
Lobsta

                 

I expected this to get ugly.

It was actually pretty nice.

Good deal.

We all bleed the same color boys.

Quoted: I expected this to get ugly. It was actually pretty nice. Good deal. We all bleed the same color boys.

You aren't as suprised as I am.  It's about time we realize we are all on the same team.

Basically it boils down to....

If you mostly want to beat your chest and go around bragging to everyone about how absolutely fabulous you are... join the Marines.

If you basically want to keep your mouth shut and DO instead of TALK, then join the Army.

I mean, if the Marines are really so great... why do they have to go around telling everyone all the time?  hinking.gif

Seriously, though, the Marines are a good outfit with a proud history.  They do a much better job of inculcating esprit d' corps and the notion that everyone is a warrior across the service as a whole than the Army does.  The Army does have a lot of people who joined for college money and are basically civilians in uniform.  When it comes to the Infantry/Airborne/Special Operations world, however, the Army units are as good as if not better than their Marine counterparts.

Someone posted here something along the lines of "their REMFs are better than our REMFs".  That may be true.  However, at the end of the day, a REMF is a REMF.

Quoted: Quoted: Whether you go army or navy... Hey! The Marines might be part of the Department of the Navy, but it's the Men's Department.

Hey who let the Flyboy in....

Quoted: Basically it boils down to.... If you mostly want to beat your chest and go around bragging to everyone about how absolutely fabulous you are... join the Marines. If you basically want to keep your mouth shut and DO instead of TALK, then join the Army. I mean, if the Marines are really so great... why do they have to go around telling everyone all the time?   Seriously, though, the Marines are a good outfit with a proud history.  They do a much better job of inculcating esprit d' corps and the notion that everyone is a warrior across the service as a whole than the Army does.  The Army does have a lot of people who joined for college money and are basically civilians in uniform.  When it comes to the Infantry/Airborne/Special Operations world, however, the Army units are as good as if not better than their Marine counterparts. Someone posted here something along the lines of "their REMFs are better than our REMFs".  That may be true.  However, at the end of the day, a REMF is a REMF.

It boils down to everyone is on the same team.

I encourage swagger......but, again...

If you're such a bad ass, why must you feel compelled to scream
so loudly about it.

If your unit isn't in SOCOM.....The only thing that is eliete is your ego.

Quoted: I mean, if the Marines are really so great... why do they have to go around telling everyone all the time?

Marines don't have to go around telling everyone how great they are, they let army brass do it for them.

"I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world!"
General of the Armies Douglas MacArthur, US Army

"The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!"
MGen. Frank E. Lowe, US Army

"Why in hell can't the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can't they be like Marines."
Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army

"We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?"
Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., US Army

"I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like 'brilliant,' it would really be an under description of the absolutely superb job that they did."
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, US Army

"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle."
Gen. John "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army

"The Marines have pride, and benefit from it. They are tough, cocky, sure of themselves and their buddies. They can fight and they know it."
General Mark Clark, US Army

Quoted: These women Marines single handedly destroyed an entire al queda battalion while on their way to wash their hair. img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/GySgtD/851735ee.jpg Now that is tough.

Looks like an Afrikaner beauty contest to me.he
Man for man the nod goes to the USMC.
If you want to take over the world or at least a large portion of it, GO ARMY.

Just one guys opinion.

XIT