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"dead insurgent motherfuckers"
on this we agree, BUT seems like we targeted civies. new boss? Chris |
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well hell yes, lets put kerry in the whitehouse, we all know how unwaiverable he is |
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Chris, you so frequently forget that "civilians" volunteer themselves "active combatants" when they purposely situate themselves in the proximity of a combat area. These "civilians", as you are so keen to call them, cognitively put themselves in an area of danger. Furthermore, who is to say that our armed forces purposely targeted them? Using your infamous logic of proposition, couldn't we propose that our military forces were merely targeting the site of violence and aggression toward American forces in hopes of eliminating any fleeing perpetrators and that these "civilians" were simply collateral damage? I, however, don't believe that this was the case. The operative word in your quote is "seem".. although, you don't seem to have inferred far enough into the situation. |
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1. Arm chair quarterbacking
2. Religion of peace 3. Kill them all. Any questions? |
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I don't feel ONE OUNCE, ONE TINY INKLING OF SADNESS. I also hope it was slow and painful. Fuck those cocksuckers. I've seen every beheading video that has come out so far, and I doubt the pricks that got OWNED dancing in the street felt even a little bit of the fear that the beheaded guys felt.
I can honestly say, I don't care if everyone one of those camel jockey motherfuckers die. Women, children, it just doesn't matter to me. Kill em all. |
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So we've gone from liberators to purveyors of genocide.
Hoo ray.............. Chris |
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I went from liberator to genocide the moment Nick Berg's head left his body. Nuke em and be done with it.
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They choose to be there. If some turd blows up your truck and then a massive throng of "folks" come running at you and your blown up truck to carry your dying corpse to hang on a bridge and mutilate your remains. Wouldn't you at least like to see them vaporized by general electric weapon system before they steal your final breath?
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according to your definitions. apparently I have.
we used to be very good friends with out Iraqi neighbors til they moved. they were better neighbors than the rest of the block. better people too BTW Let me guess here, you wouldn't have even said hello to them. would you? Peering out your windows saying "look at those rags, I guess we'll have to double bolt the door so they don't come get us in our sleep" when there is an explosion (gas line,accident, whatever) people gather.now we're going to kill harmless UNARMED people ? no sale. wanna kill terrorists,I have no problem, start blatantly blasting civies, and the problem shows itself. or damn well should to true "liberators" Chris
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We should take these fuckheads up to the top of a 110 story building where there's a soldier with a flamethrower waiting and let them make the same choice our people had to make on that September morning... jump, or burn.
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Chris, when did we start a policy of "genocide"? Getting a little liberal with your terms... you might want to watch what you say lest you commit some folly such as slandering our troops as individuals that commit genocide.
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"I can honestly say, I don't care if everyone one of those camel jockey motherfuckers die. Women, children, it just doesn't matter to me. Kill em all. " I believe that's sounds like advocation of genocide,doesn't it? Chris |
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So that is the Official Policy of the United States of America and the Bush Administration? Just because one guy or several thousand say something on the Internet? Give me a break! Eric The(Stunned)Hun |
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doesn't it ALWAYS start with a small number of those?
if I remember correctly from some other threads. quite a few were actual military personel or x military personel who posted a lot of the "kill em all" posts, for that matter there were even leos who said the same Chris |
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Those "civilians" were not the target. The weapons inside were not either, the insugents already have plenty. As a former USMC 8152/0311, having worked with strategic weapons, I can tell you that the secure digital communications equipment inside is garded seccond only to nuclear weapons. I'ts too bad that those "civilians" decided to dance around the vehicle, but opsec has priority.
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Not every person inside of Iraq is responsible or accountable for the death of Nick Berg. You are seriously retarded if you think otherwise??? You cannot lump responsibility upon a whole people for the act of a few. This is called common sense. |
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No, actually it doesn't sound like an advocation of genocide to me. In fact, I think it just sounds like a statement for the killing of all those people, regardless of their sex or age, specified to individuals that jockey camels. However, this does sound like an advocation of genocide, "Kill all of the individuals living in the Middle East who are a a Kurdish...". That's genocide, the other is just a lot of killing. Specifications: The World's Biggest Bitch! |
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Ok fine. I can be fair. Give Iraq 5 minutes notice. Say something along the lines of "Attention Camel Jockeys of Iraq. We are going to nuke Iraq in 5 minutes. Leave or die." Happy? |
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In case you've been under a rock for a while, here's the scoop. Our boys and girls are across the pond getting beat up. Sure, we have alot of troops over there, and we've kicked alot of ass. But now, they are in an urban environment. That little boy running up to you could be just wanting to say hi, or he could have a bomb strapped to him. That woman you just waved to while on patrol? Did you notice how she smiled and waved and even said something along the lines of "America is great. We love George Bush!" After you walk past her she pulls an AK out from underneath her robes and opens fire. This kinda shit is happening. Fuck trying to figure who is the enemy and who isn't. NUKE. THEM. ALL. |
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Yes this will go a long way in establishing democracy in the Middle East... you might not care... u might just repeat kill them all... nuke them all... however, you forget, if we were to nuke Iraq or another Middle Eastern state, we would make their oilfields radioactive.... yeah... that would be in our interests. No really, we get it. You hate all middle eastern people, regardles of what they have or haven't done. It's one thing to suggest that our soldiers should be extra catious, and shoot when they think their life is in danger (even if it turns out it wasn't, and they end up killing an innocent person); its something totally different to say "kill them all and let allah sort them out. " This is just total bs and is totally insane. |
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You speak of common sense? Hmm, lemme think here.....Hypothetical situation.....I am an American civilian and China has invaded California, I see a recently disabled Chinese tank with Chinese attack helos in the sky. Do I.... a) Say neat, lets go dance on it b) Neat, maybe I should hang around here for a while c) Neat, maybe it would be a wise idea to take pictures and report news here now d) Get the fuck away from it before more shit blows up Yeah, common sense, the thing all those people in the video failed to use. Their loss, I feel no pity. |
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virginia22 - first, let me say that I tire of your constant whining and complaining. This isn't the first time, there have been several other times. You make me sick. Period. Our country and our way of life are under attack. We are at war. Our very existence is threatened. You need to decide whether that means anything to you and which side you want to be on. Getting on with things. A Bradley is disabled by a remotely controlled bomb, which implies that the person or person(s) responsible for, at the very least, its detonation, if not its entire assembly and the planting of, are in close proximity to the scene. After the Bradley was disabled, the crew began receiving small arms and RPG fire. Again, it can be inferred that there are some bad guys nearby. Next, people armed with AK47s and RPGs along with others begin mulling around the 'spoils of war' and celebrating. A flag representing the flag of our enemy, the enemy directly responsible for the ghastly and inhumane murders of several innocent non-combantants, is placed into the barrel of the Bradley. And you imply that these people are civilians and somehow are removed from any responsiblilty for there own health and welfare and are merely 'victims'? WTF is wrong with you? You seriously need to get past that Johnny Cochran mentaility that you have going. They were there for a reason. At least some of them were 'insurgents' as our liberal pansy media ha recently taken to calling them. The others held at the very least sympathy if not outright allegience to the 'insurgents'. They were NOT old ladies on their way to the market. Have you asked yourself why a 'civilian' would be doing on top of a disabled tank? IF they were civilans, they should have sought to avoid a combat zone with combat equipment where combat actions had not just recently taken place. Perhaps, if they had, they wouldn't be dead. Civilans my ass. Here is a link for you just so you know I haven't altered the 'facts': LINK At Least 13 Killed in Baghdad Fighting By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer BAGHDAD, Iraq - Militants pounded central Baghdad on Sunday with one of their most intense mortar barrages ever, targeting the Green Zone and destroying a U.S. vehicle along a major street. At least 13 people were killed and 55 wounded — some of them when a U.S. helicopter fired at crowds around the burning vehicle. Elsewhere, a suicide attacker detonated an explosives-packed vehicle at the gates of Abu Ghraib prison, killing himself but causing no other casualties, the U.S. military said. American guards fired at the vehicle before the driver could reach the gate, the military said. Rockets and mortars began raining down before dawn on the Green Zone, which houses Iraqi and U.S. offices, and other parts of central Baghdad. As the shelling continued after sunrise, U.S. troops backed by armored vehicles moved into the streets searching for the attackers. A Bradley fighting vehicle rushing down Haifa Street to assist a U.S. patrol was disabled by a car bomb about 6:50 a.m., the U.S. military said. The four U.S. crewmen escaped with minor injuries but came under small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fire and called for air support, U.S. officials said. Jubilant fighters and young boys swarmed around the burning vehicle, dancing, cheering and hurling firebombs. Several young men placed a black banner of al-Qaida-backed Tawhid and Jihad, led by terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in the barrel of the Bradley's main gun. Suddenly, a U.S. Kiowa helicopter fired on the Bradley, trying to destroy it to prevent insurgents from looting weapons and ammunition on board, the military said. Witnesses said several people milling around the Bradley, including a correspondent for the Arabic language Al-Arabiya television station, were killed. An Iraqi cameraman working for the Reuters news agency was also injured. Al-Arabiya broadcast videotape showing its employee, Mazen al-Tumeizi, preparing to make a report. Suddenly, an explosion occurred behind him. He doubled-over and began screaming "I'm dying, I'm dying" and colleagues tried to help him. Health Ministry official Saad al-Amili said 13 people were killed and 55 wounded — all on Haifa street, though it was not clear how many were killed in the helicopter strike. Scattered shoes, pools of fresh blood and debris littered the street. "We were standing near the destroyed vehicle when the helicopter started firing, so we rushed to safety in a nearby building," Alaa Hassan, 24, said from his hospital bed. "I went back to the scene to help the wounded people when the helicopter fired again and I was hit in the chest." |
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Prayers sent that SSgt Jongema fully recovers. |
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Dancing and celebrating over a burning Bradley, under the flag of our enemy... In case you haven't noticed, the "enemy" in Iraq no longer wears the uniform of the Iraqi army. They dress in civilian attire. Whether they are, or are NOT "enemy" (or "civies") is determined by their conduct and activity: Dancing and celebrating over a burning Bradley, under the flag of our enemy... |
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Ahhhh, the "G" word. Favorite of the lefties. Maybe we should have allowed all those Muslims to dance on our tank and possibly steal stuff they weren't supposed to have? Perhaps they should've been allowed to get at the bodies of our dead personnel? Or living personnel? Maybe that would be better than "genocide," eh? |
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Just a guess... did your Iraqi neighbors just happen to move after 9/11? |
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Compassion and pity are not weakness unless they prevent a person from doing what must be done or are used as a shield to hide cowardice behind
I try not to hate anyone because hate is a destructive emotion...I fail a lot in this regard, but I try to be better than I am. This doesn't stop me from training and preparing to do what is necessary to protect my family, friends, loved ones or innocents around me. Nor would it prevent me from killing an attacker when necessary. When your enemy is alive and trying to kill you, you do your best to do it to them first, but a suffering man dying of his wounds deserves the compassion of a swift and merciful death. Don't waste time on him, but there is no purpose in prolonging his death or revelling in it either. The necessity of combat reflects a failure of human beings to rise to their highest potentials and behave as they were created to behave, thus forcing righteous people to commit evils to destroy evil. War may be necessary, but it is always sad and terrible. |
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Hatred can be a great motivator.
Imagine what hatred drove Mohammad Atta and the 18 others to do on Sept 11th. Never downplay hatred. It's a valuable weapon in any fight. Eric The(GiveMe10MinutesAloneInARoomWithMichaelMoore)Hun |
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I agree with you in theory, however, grim deeds must be done, even for a liberator, to suppress and destroy those who would quash the liberation under a flood of innocent blood. Unfortunately innocents will get hurt and killed in that action as well. That's war. It is pitiable to be certain, but necessary, and our pity and compassion should not prevent our action or degrade our resolve to get the job done.
Shrapnel travels. You cannot throw a hand grenade far enough to be outside it's burst radius, and that's just a half pound or so of Comp B. It produces a wounding radius of 30 meters or more. That reporter was pretty close to thirty meters away and the rocket that hit that bradley was carrying a heck of a lot more explosive Ooomph than a half pound of composition B. Not to mention that your average Bradley contains what 6 TOW missiles? 2 in the tubes and 4 more inside the hull? Those things will make a heck of a bang should they cook off as well. A TOW missile will blow the turret off a tank and send it 50 feet into the air. If it can do that to an object that weighs several tons, it will easily accelerate a small piece of shrapnel to bullet speeds and send it hundreds of feet without any problem at all. That reporter was at the wrong friggin place at the wrong friggin time. If he was innocent of wrong doing, God will be merciful, if not.... I can still feel sorry for him dying for no real reason, but neither do I think that his death or the deaths of any civilian rubberneckers in the area were premeditated results of a deliberate attack on the crowd. |
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Hatred makes people stupid. Mohammed Atta's hatred has lead to the destruction of much of his organization. His hatred lead him to take actions that caused a war. It was stupid. Patriotism is a good motivator, principles are a good motivator, religion can be a good motivator, hatred is a path to destruction both physical and spiritual. You shouldn't fight because you hate your enemy, but because you love your country/cause and become you love your comrades. Of course this is an ideal and ideals take a beating on the battlefield. No-one expects a soldier engaged in combat to maintain the highest ideals, but keeping an eye on those ideals may help keep you from becoming as bad, or worse than the enemy you fight. I have plenty of anger and little pity for terrorists. I knew someone who died on the first plane to be crashed into WTC on 9/11, and I went to college with people who died in the WTC themselves. So I have no qualms about prosecuting war against terrorists wherever they may be. The Iraqi war is also just, the removal of a tyrant who pursued the genocide of the Kurds and brutally supressed his own people is a good and worthy goal. Creating the possibility of democratic and more egalitarian rule in a nation that has never known anything but tyranny is also a good thing. I have no qualms about what must be done along the way, but it is important to be doing what we, as a nation, do in Iraq for the right reasons. Not out of hatred, but out of compassion for an oppressed people and in hope of creating a better world for them and those around them. Let others' hatred lead them to their destruction at our hands while we do what must be done while remaining mindful that God is watching us and we will be judged not merely by what is in our mouths and what we have done with our hands, but also by what was in our hearts. The Glory is not ours, at best it is borrowed from God, we should try to return it unstained. |
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Hatred is just as valuable a motivator as patriotism. Hatred, however, must be tempered by already established ideals, principles, and understanding of societal constraints so that the person using hatred as a "fue" doesn't commit acts while blinded by the emotion. The only bad affect of hatred is that most people are not able to control this emotion; they feel hate and they negate all previous societal responsibilities. Use hate as a motivator to overcome obstacles and commit acts that are necessary to do, but don't let your hatred make you commit acts that are wrong or in violation of your principles.
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they moved this past august. out to cali.
Chris
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Iraq wasn't involved with 9/11 sooner or later you'll have to get that through your skulls too. Chris |
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Pssss! Nazi Germany wasn't involved with Dec. 7th, either! But not only did we go to war with them, we concentrated our forces against Nazi Germany at the cost of slowing down our fight against Imperial Japan. And it was Imperial Japan that attacked us! Now you can claim to be a wienie or you can say that the US leaders in WWII were wienies. But one or the other of y'all are wienies. Versteht's ? Eric The(That'sWhyIt'sCalledA'Global'War)Hun |
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thats ok chris, we found plenty of people in iraq that needed killing too |
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Did I some how get transfered to a left wing website? You not only get judged by your actions but also by the people you hang around with. Obviously at least some if not all were insurgents. You hang with the wrong crowd you get burned.
All I really have to say is ohhh....DUDE!!!!!!!! |
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Yea, tell that to Scott Helvenston's family and the families of the other three former operators that were gunned down, RPG'd, pulled from their vehicles, burned, dragged through the streets of Fallujah, and then hung from a bridge on the Tigris River. And tell that to the families of all the brave men and women that have been killed and tortured since the war started. Yea, tell them how human you are oly. Here is an article I wrote regarding Scott Helvenston and the other operators who were slaughtered in Fallujah, on 31March2004. Fallujah Article by Ishoot2live Hope you enjoy the read. I am human with emotions just like the next guy, but I am so numb with the murders these savages are perpetrating against innocent people, especially my fellow Americans that I find witnessing THEIR bloodshed very soothing. I say NUKE EM' ALL! Men, women, children. The whole lot of em'! God bless America and God bless our Troops! |
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if I remember correctly, the nazis were sinking our boats as far back as 1938, SO, they did in fact attack us.
Iraq on the other hand..... DID NOT At this point, Looks like the weinie is you. Chris
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This is going to be so easy.... Chris, honey, does the name USS Stark ring a few ships bells with you? In 1997, 37 American sailors were dead...and another 21 American sailors seriously wounded. How about the actual US Casualties from Gulf War I, in 1991, were 148 US Combat deaths, 145 additional non-combat service deaths, and 467 wounded. These numbers don't mean anything to you? Please! All that sympathy for the 'others', and yet no sympathy for your own? Was fur ein schlecter Mann du bist ! We had a whole lot more to go BACK to War with Saddam than we had from anything Nazi Germany had done! So, it appears that the 'wienie' ball is back in your court, now. Eric The(VeryWurst)Hun |
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as long as you're making an ass out of yourself i figured i might as well play too remember those UN sanctions? ya, they're NO FUCKING GOOD if you don't do anything about them also, i do recall sadaam actively trying to assasinate a US president, maybe its just me, but thats a good enough reason to boot his ass the fuck out of power and in a perfect world, execute his sorry ass |
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Ahem......
Well first off, it was 1987. not 1997. and the official explanations was accepted by the USA as what it was, accidental. While deployed to the Arabian Gulf, the USS STARK is hit by two Iraqi Exocet missiles but only one of them detonates. Both missiles were accidentally fired by an Iraqi F-1 Mirage aircraft, killing 37 sailors and wounding 21 others. nice try... but no. As to DS 1. you do know, we went in there and reinstalled kuwaits dictator of the richest country in the world. Because our lap dog money pit dictator(saddam) had the audacity to go for it when we thought a simple "no" would suffice. after all, we had sent $$ millions and Arms into saddams coffers and WOW Iran at the very same time . nothing like supporting them dictatorships. huh? we love democracy.......right? so WTF? the death stats, those numbers do in fact mean something to me honey <<<LOL awww, ain't that sweet. What it equaled was getting our guys killed, to further another dictators power. in other words Wasted lives for NOTHING. reading your post makes one of the dems theories true, for you at least. Don't they say we went to war in Iraq so Bush Jr could get even for his fathers failures and that "supposed" assassinations conspiracy/attempt of bush 1. I have plenty of sympathy for our own, but I can also see where the other side comes from. the same sentiments are thrown around in here as in those terrorists heads " if they did that to "my" family, I'd kill them, their family, dog, cat, chicken and hell til salt into their land. but when the "other side" does the same back. you're appalled and astonished at their "brutality" We have wizz bang military tools, they have IEDs and ambushes. they as we fight with what we have. both are very effective from everything I've seen. that being the case. they (US and Iraqis) keep using them. Now, Barring the "accidental shooting" of the stark with those exocet missiles (OMG French made). and Bush1 going to war to prop up the kuwaiti dictators. the nazis still attacked us long before Dec 7 1941. and your imperial japan theory went right out the window. the nazis were attacking us long before then. Back to you weinie Chris This is going to be so easy.... Chris, honey, does the name USS Stark ring a few ships bells with you? In 1997, 37 American sailors were dead...and another 21 American sailors seriously wounded. How about the actual US Casualties from Gulf War I, in 1991, were 148 US Combat deaths, 145 additional non-combat service deaths, and 467 wounded. These numbers don't mean anything to you? Please! All that sympathy for the 'others', and yet no sympathy for your own? Was fur ein schlecter Mann du bist ! We had a whole lot more to go BACK to War with Saddam than we had from anything Nazi Germany had done! So, it appears that the 'wienie' ball is back in your court, now. Eric The(VeryWurst)Hun |
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www.killsometime.com 'all that hate is gonna burn you up, boy' 'naaa, keeps me warm' |
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