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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:12:45 AM EDT
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No it was not. By then the muscle care had been castrated by unleaded gas, catalytic converters, the insurance industry. etc, etc.

71 was the last year of real muscle cars. By 74 they were just shadows of their former selves. By 75 they were all gone.


The 1975 Corvette had either 165 or 205 hp.
The GM 305 v8 in 1979 put out 130 hp or 125 hp in California emission cars.
The  79 Ford Mustang II put out 89 hp.

The 77 ford 305 put out 134 hp.
The 2013 Ford 302 put out 444 hp.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:14:48 AM EDT
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No it was not. By then the muscle care had been castrated by unleaded gas, catalytic converters, the insurance industry. etc, etc.

71 was the last year of real muscle cars. By 74 they were just shadows of their former selves. By 75 they were all gone.


The discussion was about things being ugly and in my opinion the 71-74 Javelins are beautiful. The muscle car arguments are for another thread.





Thats a 73 Gremlin soi it wouldn't have had a 390 as AMC had ceased making it. The AMC 304 was the largest engine available from the factory. The Randall 401-XR Gremlin was a 401 car but it was not an official AMC offering. A 401 was dropped in at  Randall AMC of Mesa Arizona and could be purchased by the general public.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:22:05 AM EDT
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No it was not. By then the muscle care had been castrated by unleaded gas, catalytic converters, the insurance industry. etc, etc.

71 was the last year of real muscle cars. By 74 they were just shadows of their former selves. By 75 they were all gone.


The discussion was about things being ugly and in my opinion the 71-74 Javelins are beautiful. The muscle car arguments are for another thread.





Thats a 73 Gremlin soi it wouldn't have had a 390 as AMC had ceased making it. The AMC 304 was the largest engine available from the factory. The Randall 401-XR Gremlin was a 401 car but it was not an official AMC offering. A 401 was dropped in at  Randall AMC of Mesa Arizona and could be purchased by the general public.


150 hp

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:39:52 AM EDT
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My wife had the Levi Gremlin. It was a nice, powerful car that would run rings around alot of outfits that were built in that time frame.
Was Jane a slim blonde?
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:44:33 AM EDT
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In 1976 most every red blooded young man had one of these posters hanging in their bedroom....

http://ic2.pbase.com/g2/72/325172/2/147980434.jfKC5ClX.jpg


and I "used" it every day .... sometimes twice
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:53:26 AM EDT
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I'll see your '70 Chevelles and raise you a '70 Baldwin motion "Phase Three" Camaro!

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 11:54:54 AM EDT
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My 1973 Cadillac is beautiful.  They don't make cars like this anymore.



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Fluffy9lives/127-1.jpg


I love it.

I miss my 78' Sedan DeVille.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:11:03 PM EDT
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My 1973 Cadillac is beautiful.  They don't make cars like this anymore.



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Fluffy9lives/127-1.jpg


I love it.

I miss my 78' Sedan DeVille.


There are times that I miss my 77 Lincoln Continental, but I don't miss how often it needed the tank filled.  Gas has gone up quite a bit, since I had that car.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:17:12 PM EDT
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PlaneJane once posted a pic of herself from back in the 70's.  

She embodies everything that was AWESOME about that decade.  


and I missed it
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:20:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:31:57 PM EDT
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My understanding about the '70's is that everything sucked except the drugs and the cars.


Born in '76 HOO HA!
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:32:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:36:51 PM EDT
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My 1973 Cadillac is beautiful. They don't make cars like this anymore.



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Fluffy9lives/127-1.jpg


Yeah, because no one wants them.


Not unless they float, anyway.



Have either of you ever been members of the Communist Party?

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:44:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:49:42 PM EDT
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I won't repost the picture because I don't have permission.  Don't pester Jane to post it either.  If she wants to, she will.

HOWEVER, she looks very much like Julia Stgner, a stunning fashion model from the 70's...
I think I remember seeing the one mentioned posted a while back, and I agree.



 
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:50:39 PM EDT
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I won't repost the picture because I don't have permission.  Don't pester Jane to post it either.  If she wants to, she will.


HOWEVER, she looks very much like Julia Stgner, a stunning fashion model from the 70's...  

http://thebestfashionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/julia-stegner9-600x779.jpg


Although posting it would be a great Christmas gift to all of arfcom!  

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:53:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:54:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:57:34 PM EDT
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I won't repost the picture because I don't have permission.  Don't pester Jane to post it either.  If she wants to, she will.


HOWEVER, she looks very much like Julia Stgner, a stunning fashion model from the 70's...  

http://thebestfashionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/julia-stegner9-600x779.jpg


Although posting it would be a great Christmas gift to all of arfcom!  




Nope.  Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.  A beautiful woman scorned is not worth it.  



I meant that it would be a great gift from Jane.

I completely agree that no one else should post it.

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 12:58:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:04:13 PM EDT
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They were great, would love a do over.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:04:55 PM EDT
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Me in about 1975 or so.



http://i.imgur.com/mSyNn.jpg




A family of zombies.  Who'd have thought?



Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Image editor will work wonders on those colors wingnutx



 


That's the corrected version



 
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:08:54 PM EDT
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Everything was yellow, brown and a horrible shade of green.

Fucked up decade.

That's Avocado, man.
 


and "Harvest Gold".

I like to say that the reason for the sexual revolution was to get out of those ugly clothes!

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:09:22 PM EDT
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Not everything



Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:18:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:30:00 PM EDT
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I'll see your '70 Chevelles and raise you a '70 Baldwin motion "Phase Three" Camaro!



http://images8.fotki.com/v132/photos/6/63306/418521/DCP_0637-vi.jpg?800600


Why does that look like a model car??

 









Anyway, I bought a fully restored '70 Chevelle Super Sport back in late '86. Loved that car and had to get rid of it when I got married and before my step-son got old enough to drive. Smart move on my part, he was & still is a shitty driver.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:53:51 PM EDT
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I'll see your '70 Chevelles and raise you a '70 Baldwin motion "Phase Three" Camaro!

http://images8.fotki.com/v132/photos/6/63306/418521/DCP_0637-vi.jpg?800600

Why does that look like a model car??  





So I'm not the only one thing that.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 1:56:27 PM EDT
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Sure was ugly, buy they had a lot of freedoms that we don't today.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 2:00:59 PM EDT
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I won't repost the picture because I don't have permission.  Don't pester Jane to post it either.  If she wants to, she will.


HOWEVER, she looks very much like Julia Stgner, a stunning fashion model from the 70's...  

http://thebestfashionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/julia-stegner9-600x779.jpg


Although posting it would be a great Christmas gift to all of arfcom!  




Nope.  Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.  A beautiful woman scorned is not worth it.  



I meant that it would be a great gift from Jane.

I completely agree that no one else should post it.



Most of the time I have gotten along with her. I think she gets a bad rap, and she's put up with a lot of call outs and things that most wouldn't.  We did have an argument once, but I was a bit of an ass to her. I do like her witty remarks, and she got me with a couple of good zingers in that one. I have been best friends with the same person for 40 years, and we've gone to fists and feet a few times, so an argument doesn't mean anything.

I do wish she'd post the photo. It would help make for a Merrier Christmas. I just don't want to miss it this time.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 2:26:44 PM EDT
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I was watching Taxi Driver tonight. The people are all dressed like clowns. White people with afros. Then I remembered Norcal's thread about home decor of the 70's.

I know every decade has its weird fashions but there's something especially ugly about the 70's.  


The 70's is one decade I would NOT want to relive. Everything about it was weird. I can proudly say I escaped the 70's without ever owning a leisure suit.

Only fun thing about it was muscle cars were more plentiful, gas was cheaper and the legal drinking age was 18.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 3:16:39 PM EDT
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Like every other decade, it's defined by it's excess. There was a picture posted earlier of kids in the 90's (MY decade!), in their bright colored clothing. While I do actually remember seeing that on occasion, it was FAR from the norm.






I suspect the same is true of the 70's. For the most part, everybody has been posting what corporate America wanted it's country to look like, in the 70's. It doesn't mean that people actually dressed that way, as a matter of course.

 
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 3:34:46 PM EDT
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"Truth. I had a rifle and a shotgun in the gun rack from the day I could drive up to when I went to college. Fights were with fists. We did not have helmets or knee pads for every little outdoor activity. Everybody did not have tattoos or piercings to have an identity. The music and cars were awesome especially from the earlier part of the decade. We wore belts and hats with the bill facing forward. The colors of appliances and bathrooms leave little to be desired now but we never knew the difference then. Fireworks were real and love was really free."

I was born in 1959 and I agree with the above, that was my experience anyway.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:00:33 PM EDT
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No it was not. By then the muscle care had been castrated by unleaded gas, catalytic converters, the insurance industry. etc, etc.

71 was the last year of real muscle cars. By 74 they were just shadows of their former selves. By 75 they were all gone.


The 1975 Corvette had either 165 or 205 hp.
The GM 305 v8 in 1979 put out 130 hp or 125 hp in California emission cars.
The  79 Ford Mustang II put out 89 hp.

The 77 ford 305 put out 134 hp.
The 2013 Ford 302 put out 444 hp.


I remember numbers like that.  The 70s were really when margin compression from the oil shock and inflation made America's smartest managers decide to use tooling until it was barely able to cut.  The 165 horsepower engine might have 165 horsepower, or it might have 130 horsepower.  Engine builders could routinely get 10-15% over stock by just putting the engines together properly.  I remember well how badly most of them ran, and how well they would run if someone took them apart, checked them out, fixed the problems, and put them back together again with the same carb and emissions.

Those small Honda engines were not just surprising because of the economy but also because they varied so little from one to the next.  That really wasn't the case with GM and Ford by the end of the 1970s.  It's too bad, because a lot of the designs weren't bad at all, and if built properly would have been amazing.  I was far from the only one who looked at the Quad 4 when it came out and said "why the hell was this not out in 1978?"
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:04:16 PM EDT
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no...carpet, vinyl flooring, thick bushes were awesome.



Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:24:51 PM EDT
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Not everything was ugly, I submit Linda Carter as a fine example.


Linda Carter wearing sprayed-on jeans and a purple top, driving a Midnight Blue DeTomaso Pantera in Mira Mesa, CA back in the fall of 1978.  I still have to call it my most memorable celebrity encounter.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:30:18 PM EDT
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Not everything was ugly, I submit Linda Carter as a fine example.


Linda Carter wearing sprayed-on jeans and a purple top, driving a Midnight Blue DeTomaso Pantera in Mira Mesa, CA back in the fall of 1978.  I still have to call it my most memorable celebrity encounter.


I just closed my eyes and imagined that.
It was good. Thanks.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:38:11 PM EDT
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Apparently, my choices are limited to pathetic attention whoring with a thirty-five year old picture or being an old, stick-in-the-mud bitch.  I have no idea why The Picture causes so much of a stir.  It's just an over made-up teenager in front of a Pontiac Sunbird that didn't have enough power to pull a sick whore off the toilet.

Anyway, here it is.   Merry Christmas.  

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:41:20 PM EDT
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Apparently, my choices are limited to pathetic attention whoring with a thirty-five year old picture or being an old, stick-in-the-mud bitch.  I have no idea why The Picture causes so much of a stir.  It's just an over made-up teenager in front of a Pontiac Sunbird that didn't have enough power to pull a sick whore off the toilet.

Anyway, here it is.   Merry Christmas.  

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z120/planejanel/Sporty_Jane.jpg


It's a nice picture and I think she's sexy.

But I haven't the slightest clue what that stuff you wrote is supposed to mean. I mean it looks like english but
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:43:38 PM EDT
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Apparently, my choices are limited to pathetic attention whoring with a thirty-five year old picture or being an old, stick-in-the-mud bitch.  I have no idea why The Picture causes so much of a stir.  It's just an over made-up teenager in front of a Pontiac Sunbird that didn't have enough power to pull a sick whore off the toilet.

Anyway, here it is.   Merry Christmas.  

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z120/planejanel/Sporty_Jane.jpg


Nice.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:43:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:45:15 PM EDT
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Apparently, my choices are limited to pathetic attention whoring with a thirty-five year old picture or being an old, stick-in-the-mud bitch.  I have no idea why The Picture causes so much of a stir.  It's just an over made-up teenager in front of a Pontiac Sunbird that didn't have enough power to pull a sick whore off the toilet.

Anyway, here it is.   Merry Christmas.  

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z120/planejanel/Sporty_Jane.jpg

Thank you Jane, and if it makes you feel better I'm a good 10 years older than you and it hasn't hurt me a bit.

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:48:58 PM EDT
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The fact that a lot o chicks went bra less  made up for it!!  


oh man, halter tops!!!

And tube tops!



 


Boy do I miss tube tops.
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:50:13 PM EDT
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My understanding about the '70's is that everything sucked except the drugs and the cars.

http://www.americandreamcars.com/1976elcaminoss100906.jpg
Born in '76 HOO HA!




76 Camaro
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:53:15 PM EDT
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Apparently, my choices are limited to pathetic attention whoring with a thirty-five year old picture or being an old, stick-in-the-mud bitch.  I have no idea why The Picture causes so much of a stir.  It's just an over made-up teenager in front of a Pontiac Sunbird that didn't have enough power to pull a sick whore off the toilet.

Anyway, here it is.   Merry Christmas.  

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z120/planejanel/Sporty_Jane.jpg


As much as some folks her like to make fun of the unwashed masses that show up at gun shows, another group here is those unwashed masses that shows up at gunshows.  I don't even like to think about the group that avoids even gunshows for whatever reason - government mind control, too much socializing, etc.

Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:57:09 PM EDT
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My 1973 Cadillac is beautiful.  They don't make cars like this anymore.



http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Fluffy9lives/127-1.jpg





Nice.......
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:58:19 PM EDT
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Merry Christmas Jane


ETA:  And judging from the green Gran Torino (brougham?  It has the same tail lights as a 4 door brougham without the fender skirt), you lived across the street from Clint Eastwood.  
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 4:58:47 PM EDT
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Bra-less tube top with a "C"+ type girl, wearing those wooden clog type shoes.

Bandana halter tops and jug wine.


Boone's Farm


Annie Green Springs
Link Posted: 12/23/2012 5:06:18 PM EDT
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Thanks Jane.

You are the hotness.
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