Originally Posted By NattyLaw0044:


Intelligent? Don't make me laugh. You keep falling for the same Dialectic put out by the Satanists who own and control your mind. This political dialectic is the same as Caesar used
to conquer his enemies. Just because you think you are "intelligent" doesn't mean you are. No one person can fix our problems. Intelligent people fix their problems because intelligent
people understand the problem and know how to raise their consciousness above it to fix it. In actuality what you are saying is "Daddy come fix my problems!"

Originally Posted By UncleverUsername:


Unlike a lot of people on here, I have a demanding job that requires me to be available 24 hours a day for, on average, 24-25 days a month. That prevents me from being able to immediately respond to your questions. If you really need an enhanced level of guidance, I’ll give you my cell phone number. That being said, it’s hard to talk or text when I’m scrubbed in or with patients.

I forget who it was, but someone else already had a pretty good response to your question and why we shouldn’t be “telling” you who you should vote for.  

That being said, I’m voting for Biden and I hope you do, too. I voted for Trump in 2016 because I actually bought into his bullshit and believed he wanted to “drain the swamp”. Instead, he hired his own swamp who was loyal to him above all us, including me and you. Those who started to waver in their loyalty, he fired and hired someone even more rabidly loyal. Just look at the frequency of turnover within his cabinet and administration. Numerous people within his administration ended up being convicted of serious crimes and going to prison, many of whom were pardoned by Trump as long as they remained loyal. That, my friend, is corruption.

He completely botched the Covid response. Then enriched the CEO’s of 3 major Big Pharma companies by basically giving them a blank check to develop vaccines, and then continued to pay for the dosages. These companies had the vast majority of their R&D paid for by your and my taxes. The overhead was minimal. And he still directed the government to pay for the administration of the dosages. And now that the vaccines aren’t covered, they’re some of the most expensive vaccines on the market.

He lowered taxes by a whopping 2% on average. That’s great. He also increased our standard deductions. That helps. But the tax cuts are temporary for us. Now, for corporate taxes (you know, like for Big Tech and Big Pharma) those taxes cuts were written as permanent. He did this and looked us straight in the eye and said “this will allow companies to give people raises and invest in capital”. Instead, the CEO’s used their massive tax breaks to give themselves raises and pay shareholders dividends. We peasants never saw a penny of those corporate tax cuts. It’s almost like “trickle down economics” don’t actually trickle down. And on top of all that, it has been shown that those tax cuts have helped to increase our deficit and debt and will continue to do so.

He repeatedly refused to invest in infrastructure.

He passed more gun laws than Biden has. Seriously, look it up. For all of Biden’s rhetoric, he hasn’t done shit. In fact, the ATF is functioning more efficiently than it ever has with stamp approval times. It’s almost as if giving organizations the funding they need helps them to function better…

He gave out TRILLIONS in handouts during Covid.

He straight up told a mob of rabid loyalists to go down to the Capitol and “fight like hell” to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to Biden. This was after he lost over 60 cases in court trying to show there was election fraud. This was after the “Cyber Ninjas” were unable to show any fraud in the Arizona election. This was after he lied BEFORE the election even took place by trying to say “the only way Biden wins is if he cheated”. And it’s really mind boggling that people actually believe it considering he got FEWER overall votes than HILLARY. FUCKING. CLINTON. I want you to say that out loud. He lost the popular vote to one of the most hated, corrupt, career politicians ever.  And he never said anything about fraud with her. But he loses to a guy that was generally well liked, albeit a little creepy around the kids, but generally well liked by people on both sides of the aisle for DECADES. And suddenly there’s fraud. Give me a break.

I actually liked his tough-on-immigration stance. I didn’t like the way it was executed (separating children from parents), but I do appreciate the lower rates of illegal immigration during his term (although they weren’t as low as he tried to tout).


His tariffs were awful. He flaunted it as if foreign companies were going to eat all that cost, when in reality we saw the price of imports rise to cover that cost.


He sold information to Putin about our spies, who were then killed. That’s treason. Why would you ever elect a president that did that?

Those are just a few reasons, based on actions alone (I’m not going to harp on personalities/lack of morals/etc).

Whereas, Biden has not pushed any new gun laws through.

He has invested heavily in infrastructure. Yes, these things are expensive, but I’d rather see my taxes going to support things like infrastructure, where everyone in the nation can benefit from it, rather that subsidies to oil and coal, where only C-suites and shareholders benefit.

He gave handouts during Covid, but not nearly as much as Trump.

He’s invested heavily in bringing computer chip manufacturing here to the states, which is HUGE for us as a nation.

He’s signed laws that incentivize keeping manufacturing here in the states.

He has treated every single American with respect. Trump tried to withhold Covid assistance from Democrat cities and states. I don’t care what your political views are. People are people. And if they’re struggling, they deserve the help of our federal government. You don’t get to pick and choose who you’re helping. We’re all Americans and we deserve to be treated as such. Yes, I know people on both sides try to dehumanize and demonize the other side to some extent, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level and his sycophants have followed in his footsteps. I frequently see people on this forum stating that all liberals should be shot/killed/murdered. That’s ridiculous. I don’t really consider myself a Democrat because I’ve never voted for them until after Trump’s first term, but my wife and her family are definitely Democrats, and to be frank, it’s hard not to take it a literal personal when I read someone essentially stating they hope my wife and her family are murdered. Same for my mom and sister. I think people forget that a lot of people who are Democrats or vote Democrat are not “communists” or “socialists”, they have families, and are generally good people who want things to be just a little bit different than what most Republicans want. I can tell you that my wife and her parents have frequently said they wish Biden would be tougher on immigration. They don’t want to go back to families being separated, but they damn sure don’t want an open border, and I’d say 90-95% of the Democrats I know feel the same way. Yes, the other 5-10% tend to be more extreme on a lot of issues, but it’s the same way for Republicans. So basically 80-90% of the country is pretty close in values and wants, but Trump has created a Republican Party so extreme that my wife and I are considered “vermin” who don’t even deserve to live. We should be shot and leave our kids to be orphaned, apparently. Biden doesn’t treat his opponents like this. When the hurricane hit Florida he personally went down there, shook Desantis’s hand, and promised him help. That’s what a leader does. He puts personal differences aside to help others and bring us together as Americans.

So, yes, I would recommend Biden. Is he going to make things perfect? Absolutely not. Is he the best choice possible? No. But he’s the best choice we have right now, and 1000x better than Trump. That being said, if you (or anyone, I’m using you as a collective) tell me to fuck off and I’m an idiot and my wife should be shot for being a vermin commie and you’re voting for Trump, that’s your right and I’m not going to call you names. But I might gloat a little when, contrary to everyone’s belief, America isn’t burned to ashes after 4 years of Biden wins.

Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
Huh....little over a third of GD is either tarded or leftists.

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Originally Posted By kab85:
He's not my first choice, but he'll do.

Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:

What you fail to grasp is that my gun rights are the SAME under Biden as they are under Trump.

A candidate has to earn my vote by representing my interests. Neither presidential candidate does so.

Fuck them both.

People like you trot out the “he’s not perfect, but…” bullshit over and over.  Nobody demands perfection, just a basic respect for this country and its constitution.  Neither Trump nor Biden can claim that.  They’re both not only imperfect, they’re total shitshow pieces of crap… both of them.

Blaming Trump’s weakness on the NRA is equally stupid. Maybe you need to go back and review the things that have come out of his mouth on the subject.

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
I am in the burn it all down camp..Full accelerationist. So I guess no. Besides Trump said he didn't need our votes. I am taking his word at that.

Going by logic here by me not voting for someone means the other guy gets the vote..well rest easy because I am not voting for Biden so I guess Trump magically gets my vote somehow.

If one is voting because they see Trump as the lesser of 2 evils I can understand and wish them well. As far as the hardcore T$ cultists that think. He is an actual Conservative? Lol

Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Nope.

He's a piece of shit, has literally destroyed the GOP party, will give Biden another 4 years, and will probably fuck up 2028 by running (2024 was stolen!).

Fuck him, fuck him for running this year instead of being a kingmaker.

Originally Posted By trio:
Posting these same fucking polls every 2 days should be a bannable offense

Originally Posted By iveseenalittleontv:


Q did not predict this.  

Originally Posted By KuduKing:
That poll tells you everything you need to know about how far GD has fallen

Originally Posted By UncleverUsername:


Unlike a lot of people on here, I have a demanding job that requires me to be available 24 hours a day for, on average, 24-25 days a month. That prevents me from being able to immediately respond to your questions. If you really need an enhanced level of guidance, I’ll give you my cell phone number. That being said, it’s hard to talk or text when I’m scrubbed in or with patients.

I forget who it was, but someone else already had a pretty good response to your question and why we shouldn’t be “telling” you who you should vote for.  

That being said, I’m voting for Biden and I hope you do, too. I voted for Trump in 2016 because I actually bought into his bullshit and believed he wanted to “drain the swamp”. Instead, he hired his own swamp who was loyal to him above all us, including me and you. Those who started to waver in their loyalty, he fired and hired someone even more rabidly loyal. Just look at the frequency of turnover within his cabinet and administration. Numerous people within his administration ended up being convicted of serious crimes and going to prison, many of whom were pardoned by Trump as long as they remained loyal. That, my friend, is corruption.

He completely botched the Covid response. Then enriched the CEO’s of 3 major Big Pharma companies by basically giving them a blank check to develop vaccines, and then continued to pay for the dosages. These companies had the vast majority of their R&D paid for by your and my taxes. The overhead was minimal. And he still directed the government to pay for the administration of the dosages. And now that the vaccines aren’t covered, they’re some of the most expensive vaccines on the market.

He lowered taxes by a whopping 2% on average. That’s great. He also increased our standard deductions. That helps. But the tax cuts are temporary for us. Now, for corporate taxes (you know, like for Big Tech and Big Pharma) those taxes cuts were written as permanent. He did this and looked us straight in the eye and said “this will allow companies to give people raises and invest in capital”. Instead, the CEO’s used their massive tax breaks to give themselves raises and pay shareholders dividends. We peasants never saw a penny of those corporate tax cuts. It’s almost like “trickle down economics” don’t actually trickle down. And on top of all that, it has been shown that those tax cuts have helped to increase our deficit and debt and will continue to do so.

He repeatedly refused to invest in infrastructure.

He passed more gun laws than Biden has. Seriously, look it up. For all of Biden’s rhetoric, he hasn’t done shit. In fact, the ATF is functioning more efficiently than it ever has with stamp approval times. It’s almost as if giving organizations the funding they need helps them to function better…

He gave out TRILLIONS in handouts during Covid.

He straight up told a mob of rabid loyalists to go down to the Capitol and “fight like hell” to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to Biden. This was after he lost over 60 cases in court trying to show there was election fraud. This was after the “Cyber Ninjas” were unable to show any fraud in the Arizona election. This was after he lied BEFORE the election even took place by trying to say “the only way Biden wins is if he cheated”. And it’s really mind boggling that people actually believe it considering he got FEWER overall votes than HILLARY. FUCKING. CLINTON. I want you to say that out loud. He lost the popular vote to one of the most hated, corrupt, career politicians ever.  And he never said anything about fraud with her. But he loses to a guy that was generally well liked, albeit a little creepy around the kids, but generally well liked by people on both sides of the aisle for DECADES. And suddenly there’s fraud. Give me a break.

I actually liked his tough-on-immigration stance. I didn’t like the way it was executed (separating children from parents), but I do appreciate the lower rates of illegal immigration during his term (although they weren’t as low as he tried to tout).


His tariffs were awful. He flaunted it as if foreign companies were going to eat all that cost, when in reality we saw the price of imports rise to cover that cost.


He sold information to Putin about our spies, who were then killed. That’s treason. Why would you ever elect a president that did that?

Those are just a few reasons, based on actions alone (I’m not going to harp on personalities/lack of morals/etc).

Whereas, Biden has not pushed any new gun laws through.

He has invested heavily in infrastructure. Yes, these things are expensive, but I’d rather see my taxes going to support things like infrastructure, where everyone in the nation can benefit from it, rather that subsidies to oil and coal, where only C-suites and shareholders benefit.

He gave handouts during Covid, but not nearly as much as Trump.

He’s invested heavily in bringing computer chip manufacturing here to the states, which is HUGE for us as a nation.

He’s signed laws that incentivize keeping manufacturing here in the states.

He has treated every single American with respect. Trump tried to withhold Covid assistance from Democrat cities and states. I don’t care what your political views are. People are people. And if they’re struggling, they deserve the help of our federal government. You don’t get to pick and choose who you’re helping. We’re all Americans and we deserve to be treated as such. Yes, I know people on both sides try to dehumanize and demonize the other side to some extent, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level and his sycophants have followed in his footsteps. I frequently see people on this forum stating that all liberals should be shot/killed/murdered. That’s ridiculous. I don’t really consider myself a Democrat because I’ve never voted for them until after Trump’s first term, but my wife and her family are definitely Democrats, and to be frank, it’s hard not to take it a literal personal when I read someone essentially stating they hope my wife and her family are murdered. Same for my mom and sister. I think people forget that a lot of people who are Democrats or vote Democrat are not “communists” or “socialists”, they have families, and are generally good people who want things to be just a little bit different than what most Republicans want. I can tell you that my wife and her parents have frequently said they wish Biden would be tougher on immigration. They don’t want to go back to families being separated, but they damn sure don’t want an open border, and I’d say 90-95% of the Democrats I know feel the same way. Yes, the other 5-10% tend to be more extreme on a lot of issues, but it’s the same way for Republicans. So basically 80-90% of the country is pretty close in values and wants, but Trump has created a Republican Party so extreme that my wife and I are considered “vermin” who don’t even deserve to live. We should be shot and leave our kids to be orphaned, apparently. Biden doesn’t treat his opponents like this. When the hurricane hit Florida he personally went down there, shook Desantis’s hand, and promised him help. That’s what a leader does. He puts personal differences aside to help others and bring us together as Americans.

So, yes, I would recommend Biden. Is he going to make things perfect? Absolutely not. Is he the best choice possible? No. But he’s the best choice we have right now, and 1000x better than Trump. That being said, if you (or anyone, I’m using you as a collective) tell me to fuck off and I’m an idiot and my wife should be shot for being a vermin commie and you’re voting for Trump, that’s your right and I’m not going to call you names. But I might gloat a little when, contrary to everyone’s belief, America isn’t burned to ashes after 4 years of Biden wins.

Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
Huh....little over a third of GD is either tarded or leftists.

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Originally Posted By Ikumaru:


Wow, that's funny.  So by not supporting the president that absolutely obliterated the debt spending record in his single 4 year term that makes me a democrat?  By not supporting the president that single-handedly caused almost everything I buy cost 50-200% more due to his absolutely insane printing of money, $8.4 TRILLION motherfucking dollars in 4 years, that makes me a democrat.  Its sad how obvious it is that none of you Trump supporters have any conservative principles, you are all just obsessed with this weird old man.

Originally Posted By kab85:
He's not my first choice, but he'll do.

Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:



He's not even my first 87th choice, but would be better than Joe Biden.

(That is an exceeding LOW bar.)

This presidential election represents a Total & Complete Failure of the American "Two Party" system.

Bigger_Hammer

Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
Huh....little over a third of GD is either tarded or leftists.

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Originally Posted By UncleverUsername:


Unlike a lot of people on here, I have a demanding job that requires me to be available 24 hours a day for, on average, 24-25 days a month. That prevents me from being able to immediately respond to your questions. If you really need an enhanced level of guidance, I'll give you my cell phone number. That being said, it's hard to talk or text when I'm scrubbed in or with patients.

I forget who it was, but someone else already had a pretty good response to your question and why we shouldn't be "telling" you who you should vote for.  

That being said, I'm voting for Biden and I hope you do, too. I voted for Trump in 2016 because I actually bought into his bullshit and believed he wanted to "drain the swamp". Instead, he hired his own swamp who was loyal to him above all us, including me and you. Those who started to waver in their loyalty, he fired and hired someone even more rabidly loyal. Just look at the frequency of turnover within his cabinet and administration. Numerous people within his administration ended up being convicted of serious crimes and going to prison, many of whom were pardoned by Trump as long as they remained loyal. That, my friend, is corruption.

He completely botched the Covid response. Then enriched the CEO's of 3 major Big Pharma companies by basically giving them a blank check to develop vaccines, and then continued to pay for the dosages. These companies had the vast majority of their R&D paid for by your and my taxes. The overhead was minimal. And he still directed the government to pay for the administration of the dosages. And now that the vaccines aren't covered, they're some of the most expensive vaccines on the market.

He lowered taxes by a whopping 2% on average. That's great. He also increased our standard deductions. That helps. But the tax cuts are temporary for us. Now, for corporate taxes (you know, like for Big Tech and Big Pharma) those taxes cuts were written as permanent. He did this and looked us straight in the eye and said "this will allow companies to give people raises and invest in capital". Instead, the CEO's used their massive tax breaks to give themselves raises and pay shareholders dividends. We peasants never saw a penny of those corporate tax cuts. It's almost like "trickle down economics" don't actually trickle down. And on top of all that, it has been shown that those tax cuts have helped to increase our deficit and debt and will continue to do so.

He repeatedly refused to invest in infrastructure.

He passed more gun laws than Biden has. Seriously, look it up. For all of Biden's rhetoric, he hasn't done shit. In fact, the ATF is functioning more efficiently than it ever has with stamp approval times. It's almost as if giving organizations the funding they need helps them to function better

He gave out TRILLIONS in handouts during Covid.

He straight up told a mob of rabid loyalists to go down to the Capitol and "fight like hell" to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to Biden. This was after he lost over 60 cases in court trying to show there was election fraud. This was after the "Cyber Ninjas" were unable to show any fraud in the Arizona election. This was after he lied BEFORE the election even took place by trying to say "the only way Biden wins is if he cheated". And it's really mind boggling that people actually believe it considering he got FEWER overall votes than HILLARY. FUCKING. CLINTON. I want you to say that out loud. He lost the popular vote to one of the most hated, corrupt, career politicians ever.  And he never said anything about fraud with her. But he loses to a guy that was generally well liked, albeit a little creepy around the kids, but generally well liked by people on both sides of the aisle for DECADES. And suddenly there's fraud. Give me a break.

I actually liked his tough-on-immigration stance. I didn't like the way it was executed (separating children from parents), but I do appreciate the lower rates of illegal immigration during his term (although they weren't as low as he tried to tout).


His tariffs were awful. He flaunted it as if foreign companies were going to eat all that cost, when in reality we saw the price of imports rise to cover that cost.


He sold information to Putin about our spies, who were then killed. That's treason. Why would you ever elect a president that did that?

Those are just a few reasons, based on actions alone (I'm not going to harp on personalities/lack of morals/etc).

Whereas, Biden has not pushed any new gun laws through.

He has invested heavily in infrastructure. Yes, these things are expensive, but I'd rather see my taxes going to support things like infrastructure, where everyone in the nation can benefit from it, rather that subsidies to oil and coal, where only C-suites and shareholders benefit.

He gave handouts during Covid, but not nearly as much as Trump.

He's invested heavily in bringing computer chip manufacturing here to the states, which is HUGE for us as a nation.

He's signed laws that incentivize keeping manufacturing here in the states.

He has treated every single American with respect. Trump tried to withhold Covid assistance from Democrat cities and states. I don't care what your political views are. People are people. And if they're struggling, they deserve the help of our federal government. You don't get to pick and choose who you're helping. We're all Americans and we deserve to be treated as such. Yes, I know people on both sides try to dehumanize and demonize the other side to some extent, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level and his sycophants have followed in his footsteps. I frequently see people on this forum stating that all liberals should be shot/killed/murdered. That's ridiculous. I don't really consider myself a Democrat because I've never voted for them until after Trump's first term, but my wife and her family are definitely Democrats, and to be frank, it's hard not to take it a literal personal when I read someone essentially stating they hope my wife and her family are murdered. Same for my mom and sister. I think people forget that a lot of people who are Democrats or vote Democrat are not "communists" or "socialists", they have families, and are generally good people who want things to be just a little bit different than what most Republicans want. I can tell you that my wife and her parents have frequently said they wish Biden would be tougher on immigration. They don't want to go back to families being separated, but they damn sure don't want an open border, and I'd say 90-95% of the Democrats I know feel the same way. Yes, the other 5-10% tend to be more extreme on a lot of issues, but it's the same way for Republicans. So basically 80-90% of the country is pretty close in values and wants, but Trump has created a Republican Party so extreme that my wife and I are considered "vermin" who don't even deserve to live. We should be shot and leave our kids to be orphaned, apparently. Biden doesn't treat his opponents like this. When the hurricane hit Florida he personally went down there, shook Desantis's hand, and promised him help. That's what a leader does. He puts personal differences aside to help others and bring us together as Americans.

So, yes, I would recommend Biden. Is he going to make things perfect? Absolutely not. Is he the best choice possible? No. But he's the best choice we have right now, and 1000x better than Trump. That being said, if you (or anyone, I'm using you as a collective) tell me to fuck off and I'm an idiot and my wife should be shot for being a vermin commie and you're voting for Trump, that's your right and I'm not going to call you names. But I might gloat a little when, contrary to everyone's belief, America isn't burned to ashes after 4 years of Biden wins.

Originally Posted By Dieselman:
@Duck_Hunt
@Uncleverusername
@TXRabbitBane
@AXEOFWAR
@Ikumaru
@GutWrench


Serious question, who should I vote for.  I won't get my ballot for about another month.  This is your folks' chance to make a difference. Tell me either which box to check or who to write in.

Originally Posted By Quiganomics:
Huh....little over a third of GD is either tarded or leftists.

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Originally Posted By eurotrash:

If you look around this thread, it’s people who receive a paycheck from the US government or do business directly with the government who do not stand with Trump. They fear cuts to their deep-state bureaus or their swamp money.

Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Where do you get your disinformation?

Originally Posted By eurotrash:

Let’s say, for example, you are a former employee of a bureau. You’re semi-retired, but through your connections, you still have a steady paycheck of taxpayer-funded money. Trump is a threat to business as usual because he could, on a whim, replace your director or cut you off. Biden is not a threat. Not only that, but everyone in you fraternize with sucks from that sweet government teet and the threat of an outsider causes ripples in your entire social circle.

Originally Posted By Kingdead:
Do you find it a little weird Biden's son was placed pretty high in a Ukrainian energy company while he was VP?

Originally Posted By eurotrash:

If you look around this thread, it’s people who receive a paycheck from the US government or do business directly with the government who do not stand with Trump. They fear cuts to their deep-state bureaus or their swamp money.

Originally Posted By PlaneJane:

Do you find it a little weird that Trump gave his  daughter and son-in-law highly lucrative, highly influential positions in his administration.  Not a hell of a lot to choose between nepotism vs corruption.  Both suck.

The reason, the only reason, I’m voting for the orange turd is so, when I’m on my deathbed, I can honestly say that, while I’ve done some things I regret, at least tnever voted for a Democrat.

Originally Posted By UncleverUsername:


Unlike a lot of people on here, I have a demanding job that requires me to be available 24 hours a day for, on average, 24-25 days a month. That prevents me from being able to immediately respond to your questions. If you really need an enhanced level of guidance, I’ll give you my cell phone number. That being said, it’s hard to talk or text when I’m scrubbed in or with patients.

I forget who it was, but someone else already had a pretty good response to your question and why we shouldn’t be “telling” you who you should vote for.  

That being said, I’m voting for Biden and I hope you do, too. I voted for Trump in 2016 because I actually bought into his bullshit and believed he wanted to “drain the swamp”. Instead, he hired his own swamp who was loyal to him above all us, including me and you. Those who started to waver in their loyalty, he fired and hired someone even more rabidly loyal. Just look at the frequency of turnover within his cabinet and administration. Numerous people within his administration ended up being convicted of serious crimes and going to prison, many of whom were pardoned by Trump as long as they remained loyal. That, my friend, is corruption.

He completely botched the Covid response. Then enriched the CEO’s of 3 major Big Pharma companies by basically giving them a blank check to develop vaccines, and then continued to pay for the dosages. These companies had the vast majority of their R&D paid for by your and my taxes. The overhead was minimal. And he still directed the government to pay for the administration of the dosages. And now that the vaccines aren’t covered, they’re some of the most expensive vaccines on the market.

He lowered taxes by a whopping 2% on average. That’s great. He also increased our standard deductions. That helps. But the tax cuts are temporary for us. Now, for corporate taxes (you know, like for Big Tech and Big Pharma) those taxes cuts were written as permanent. He did this and looked us straight in the eye and said “this will allow companies to give people raises and invest in capital”. Instead, the CEO’s used their massive tax breaks to give themselves raises and pay shareholders dividends. We peasants never saw a penny of those corporate tax cuts. It’s almost like “trickle down economics” don’t actually trickle down. And on top of all that, it has been shown that those tax cuts have helped to increase our deficit and debt and will continue to do so.

He repeatedly refused to invest in infrastructure.

He passed more gun laws than Biden has. Seriously, look it up. For all of Biden’s rhetoric, he hasn’t done shit. In fact, the ATF is functioning more efficiently than it ever has with stamp approval times. It’s almost as if giving organizations the funding they need helps them to function better…

He gave out TRILLIONS in handouts during Covid.

He straight up told a mob of rabid loyalists to go down to the Capitol and “fight like hell” to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to Biden. This was after he lost over 60 cases in court trying to show there was election fraud. This was after the “Cyber Ninjas” were unable to show any fraud in the Arizona election. This was after he lied BEFORE the election even took place by trying to say “the only way Biden wins is if he cheated”. And it’s really mind boggling that people actually believe it considering he got FEWER overall votes than HILLARY. FUCKING. CLINTON. I want you to say that out loud. He lost the popular vote to one of the most hated, corrupt, career politicians ever.  And he never said anything about fraud with her. But he loses to a guy that was generally well liked, albeit a little creepy around the kids, but generally well liked by people on both sides of the aisle for DECADES. And suddenly there’s fraud. Give me a break.

I actually liked his tough-on-immigration stance. I didn’t like the way it was executed (separating children from parents), but I do appreciate the lower rates of illegal immigration during his term (although they weren’t as low as he tried to tout).


His tariffs were awful. He flaunted it as if foreign companies were going to eat all that cost, when in reality we saw the price of imports rise to cover that cost.


He sold information to Putin about our spies, who were then killed. That’s treason. Why would you ever elect a president that did that?

Those are just a few reasons, based on actions alone (I’m not going to harp on personalities/lack of morals/etc).

Whereas, Biden has not pushed any new gun laws through.

He has invested heavily in infrastructure. Yes, these things are expensive, but I’d rather see my taxes going to support things like infrastructure, where everyone in the nation can benefit from it, rather that subsidies to oil and coal, where only C-suites and shareholders benefit.

He gave handouts during Covid, but not nearly as much as Trump.

He’s invested heavily in bringing computer chip manufacturing here to the states, which is HUGE for us as a nation.

He’s signed laws that incentivize keeping manufacturing here in the states.

He has treated every single American with respect. Trump tried to withhold Covid assistance from Democrat cities and states. I don’t care what your political views are. People are people. And if they’re struggling, they deserve the help of our federal government. You don’t get to pick and choose who you’re helping. We’re all Americans and we deserve to be treated as such. Yes, I know people on both sides try to dehumanize and demonize the other side to some extent, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level and his sycophants have followed in his footsteps. I frequently see people on this forum stating that all liberals should be shot/killed/murdered. That’s ridiculous. I don’t really consider myself a Democrat because I’ve never voted for them until after Trump’s first term, but my wife and her family are definitely Democrats, and to be frank, it’s hard not to take it a literal personal when I read someone essentially stating they hope my wife and her family are murdered. Same for my mom and sister. I think people forget that a lot of people who are Democrats or vote Democrat are not “communists” or “socialists”, they have families, and are generally good people who want things to be just a little bit different than what most Republicans want. I can tell you that my wife and her parents have frequently said they wish Biden would be tougher on immigration. They don’t want to go back to families being separated, but they damn sure don’t want an open border, and I’d say 90-95% of the Democrats I know feel the same way. Yes, the other 5-10% tend to be more extreme on a lot of issues, but it’s the same way for Republicans. So basically 80-90% of the country is pretty close in values and wants, but Trump has created a Republican Party so extreme that my wife and I are considered “vermin” who don’t even deserve to live. We should be shot and leave our kids to be orphaned, apparently. Biden doesn’t treat his opponents like this. When the hurricane hit Florida he personally went down there, shook Desantis’s hand, and promised him help. That’s what a leader does. He puts personal differences aside to help others and bring us together as Americans.

So, yes, I would recommend Biden. Is he going to make things perfect? Absolutely not. Is he the best choice possible? No. But he’s the best choice we have right now, and 1000x better than Trump. That being said, if you (or anyone, I’m using you as a collective) tell me to fuck off and I’m an idiot and my wife should be shot for being a vermin commie and you’re voting for Trump, that’s your right and I’m not going to call you names. But I might gloat a little when, contrary to everyone’s belief, America isn’t burned to ashes after 4 years of Biden wins.