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I wish arfcomers calling anything they don't like/understand a fad was a fad and that it would die quickly.
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Pemberton the carbonated, behind his tasty bubbles, whispering of the love that is more horrible than hate.
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Originally Posted By DonkeyHotay: Are they deployed by the .MIL on pistols yet? Then the jury is still out. View Quote SOCOM/Delta/DevGru uses dots on their pistols regularly. Which is why the Sig was spec’ed with a plate. If you saw who usually carries a pistol in the DoD, you would agree eletronic sights probably aren’t a purchase priority. The people who actually use pistols in the DoD however use electronic sights on their pistols. Yes they can break, but their advantages clearly outweigh their disadvantages at this point. You are the guy in 1998 arguing that the internet is a fad. It’s pretty pathetic. |
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Making white people uneasy since '71...
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: SOCOM/Delta/DevGru uses dots on their pistols regularly. Which is why the Sig was spec’ed with a plate. If you saw who usually carries a pistol in the DoD, you would agree eletronic sights probably aren’t a purchase priority. The people who actually use pistols in the DoD however use electronic sights on their pistols. Yes they can break, but their advantages clearly outweigh their disadvantages at this point. You are the guy in 1998 arguing that the internet is a fad. It’s pretty pathetic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Originally Posted By DonkeyHotay: Are they deployed by the .MIL on pistols yet? Then the jury is still out. SOCOM/Delta/DevGru uses dots on their pistols regularly. Which is why the Sig was spec’ed with a plate. If you saw who usually carries a pistol in the DoD, you would agree eletronic sights probably aren’t a purchase priority. The people who actually use pistols in the DoD however use electronic sights on their pistols. Yes they can break, but their advantages clearly outweigh their disadvantages at this point. You are the guy in 1998 arguing that the internet is a fad. It’s pretty pathetic. Nashville PD have RDSs on their pistols, though I don’t know if they’re a general issue item or private purchase. |
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I miss the old shotgun vs AR arguments.....
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Originally Posted By TradWoodsman: If you have never had irons break you don't shoot very much View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TradWoodsman: Originally Posted By DonkeyHotay: Iron sights require no backup. And I like less shit to break on something I trust my life with on the daily. But that's just me. If you have never had irons break you don't shoot very much Anything can break. I had a front sight shoot loose on a Glock before they changed to the screwed in front sight. Had a 1911 front sight fly off. Had an Aimpoint die. Had an RMR that turns itself off under recoil. |
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Originally Posted By 8w7: Because the same 6 guys cannot help themselves. They fight tooth and nail like Jehovah’s Witnesses or cult members when anyone dares to say that dots aren’t for them. That’s why some have been banned from the handgun forum. It’s utterly ridiculous. View Quote But that's not how these threads go. It's usually someone spouting some ignorant, misinformed crap getting dog piled rather than someone someone who simply says "no thanks, I'm fine with irons". It's been so done to death at this point I usually just sit back and watch, but I've read most of the red dot threads just for the laughs. Casting the anti-red dot crowd as the victims is disingenuous at best. |
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Pemberton the carbonated, behind his tasty bubbles, whispering of the love that is more horrible than hate.
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Originally Posted By thirsty: My whiz bang dot has backup irons. I can’t wait for the day, in a few years, when we laugh at the absurdity of these threads, then go out and shoot our pistols equipped with RDS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By thirsty: Originally Posted By DVCER: When your whiz bang dot fails, so will you. It’s a pistol for gods sake. My whiz bang dot has backup irons. I can’t wait for the day, in a few years, when we laugh at the absurdity of these threads, then go out and shoot our pistols equipped with RDS. The future is now, young man. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
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Originally Posted By Ironhandjohn: Nashville PD have RDSs on their pistols, though I don't know if they're a general issue item or private purchase. View Quote My agency is in the process, of course at the rate things are going I'll be long retired before the first issue rds glock hits the street. Plenty of personal purchase on the street already. |
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21st Century Minuteman.
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Pic thread now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47980/97DC16BA-19CC-4FD0-8B6A-D9CE0175484F-2640210.jpg View Quote I need to get more pistols outfitted with RMRs. |
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: But that's not how these threads go. It's usually someone spouting some ignorant, misinformed crap getting dog piled rather than someone someone who simply says "no thanks, I'm fine with irons". It's been so done to death at this point I usually just sit back and watch, but I've read most of the red dot threads just for the laughs. Casting the anti-red dot crowd as the victims is disingenuous at best. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: Originally Posted By 8w7: Because the same 6 guys cannot help themselves. They fight tooth and nail like Jehovah’s Witnesses or cult members when anyone dares to say that dots aren’t for them. That’s why some have been banned from the handgun forum. It’s utterly ridiculous. But that's not how these threads go. It's usually someone spouting some ignorant, misinformed crap getting dog piled rather than someone someone who simply says "no thanks, I'm fine with irons". It's been so done to death at this point I usually just sit back and watch, but I've read most of the red dot threads just for the laughs. Casting the anti-red dot crowd as the victims is disingenuous at best. Yeah it usually more like , "you can keep your whizzbang doodads, I'm sticking with what actually works..." type posts. I used to have a lot of uninformed opinions but I can accept I was wrong and move forward. As in all things I'll just blame boomers. |
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No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
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Originally Posted By Glck1911: Haven't read every post, but let me make an educated guess on how this thread is going. Anti-Dot'ers post ridiculous and untrue arguments against red dots. Dot'ers post counter argument Anti-Dot'ers get their depends in a wad and autistic screech about how they shouldn't be forced to change. View Quote This should be pinned. |
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy: More often than high quality dots? Likely so. I’ve seen more irons suffer failures in the past year than RMRs. I’ve personally had more irons fail than dots in the past year. View Quote Yup. I'm not a competition shooter or trainer and I've seen it more than once. The only Dots I've seen fail are the super cheap ones. Most front iron sights are held on by tiny Chinese pot metal screws. Not sure why it's hard to believe they fail. |
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72: https://i.postimg.cc/HkSVMXbn/5-CCB9365-1433-4-D43-A5-C5-74-AB3-D4-EAE0-F.jpg I need to get more pistols outfitted with RMRs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JBecker_72: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Pic thread now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47980/97DC16BA-19CC-4FD0-8B6A-D9CE0175484F-2640210.jpg I need to get more pistols outfitted with RMRs. Attached File I was very happy to have this on my hip last night. |
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An Assisting Hand
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Originally Posted By 8w7: Because the same 6 guys cannot help themselves. They fight tooth and nail like Jehovah’s Witnesses or cult members when anyone dares to say that dots aren’t for them. That’s why some have been banned from the handgun forum. It’s utterly ridiculous. View Quote It’s not the people who say dots aren’t for them. It’s the people who post objectively incorrect and absurd arguments against them. |
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
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Originally Posted By triburst1: RMR master race checking in. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/C648FAA8-5144-4FF9-BFEB-6FBAD4F8225C_jpe-2644239.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/79E28716-2A5E-4284-9456-EB6997EBA92A_jpe-2644241.JPG View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By BabaYaga22: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417747/image_jpg-2644408.JPG I was very happy to have this on my hip last night. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BabaYaga22: Originally Posted By JBecker_72: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Pic thread now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47980/97DC16BA-19CC-4FD0-8B6A-D9CE0175484F-2640210.jpg I need to get more pistols outfitted with RMRs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417747/image_jpg-2644408.JPG I was very happy to have this on my hip last night. |
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72: The next one I have milled I'm gonna get that OD cerakote finish. Love that look. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JBecker_72: Originally Posted By BabaYaga22: Originally Posted By JBecker_72: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Pic thread now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47980/97DC16BA-19CC-4FD0-8B6A-D9CE0175484F-2640210.jpg I need to get more pistols outfitted with RMRs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417747/image_jpg-2644408.JPG I was very happy to have this on my hip last night. Thanks a local smith did the work, the shade of OD he used is perfect and did a great job too! |
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An Assisting Hand
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Which sight is that? I am going RD on my Sig 320 and shopping around. Getting new slide etc so I am flexible on the cut. My current slide can’t be cut. View Quote Steiner MPS. Check it out at the 2 gun in January. I love it. Battery life isn't the best, but I've carried it on hikes under water, and beat the crap out of it so far. We didn't have much mud out in Vegas, but I'm looking forward to some mud testing out here soon. The battery life thing is a non issue to me, because it's top mounted battery tray, and the dot blinks for quite a few days before it gets dimmer, indicating the battery is getting low. I leave mine on 24/7 on the second highest setting and have only changed one battery in the almost year that Ive had it. I bought it used, as well, so who knows how old that original battery was, and that last me 7 months. |
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I can’t imagine going back to irons on pistols. Red dots are absolute game changers.
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Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: But that's not how these threads go. It's usually someone spouting some ignorant, misinformed crap getting dog piled rather than someone someone who simply says "no thanks, I'm fine with irons". It's been so done to death at this point I usually just sit back and watch, but I've read most of the red dot threads just for the laughs. Casting the anti-red dot crowd as the victims is disingenuous at best. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: Originally Posted By 8w7: Because the same 6 guys cannot help themselves. They fight tooth and nail like Jehovah’s Witnesses or cult members when anyone dares to say that dots aren’t for them. That’s why some have been banned from the handgun forum. It’s utterly ridiculous. But that's not how these threads go. It's usually someone spouting some ignorant, misinformed crap getting dog piled rather than someone someone who simply says "no thanks, I'm fine with irons". It's been so done to death at this point I usually just sit back and watch, but I've read most of the red dot threads just for the laughs. Casting the anti-red dot crowd as the victims is disingenuous at best. They still dogpiled on me after asking why this was so important for them to get the last words and be purposely insulting with people that even said a harmless "not for me" and that I am fine with irons for my handguns. Even had some stalk me derping ignorant crap about muh presentationz is craps" despite me telling them that I never had that problem before and without knowing anything about me (projection, he was projecting his own issues into me and after being called on kit, he post stalked me which was super cringe just some of my other stalkers that I no longer see anymore because the ignore is a wonderful feature making my time much more pleasant). There are obvious trolls that the cult of handgun dots have taken the bait and shitted on, not knowing that they just got outplayed by a dot user, lol. But to say that it's disingenuous about non dot users crying wolf, is being disingenuous all on it's own. One even admitted that it was an actual agenda of his and why he refuses to accept anyone's answer that isn't an automatic yes. The rest don't have the integrity to admit that either. And L-O-L at the ones being banned from the handgun forums over red dot arguments by those saying no. getting banned from from tech is pretty telling that the issue is with the banned and not the ones saying no thank you. That's what makes your claim that it's us and not you guys full of it. It's the new AR vs shotgun fun for GD, and OP is a troll for doing another one when there was an already weakly one that ran it's course. |
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Originally Posted By TGE: Yeah, JB Weld makes one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TGE: Originally Posted By Lexustech48: Serious question, any adapter plates available that I can mount one of those Vortex UH-1s to my Sig P365XL? Yeah, JB Weld makes one. Attached File |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993. Soli Deo Gloria |
Not a big fan myself. I have two pistols so equipped (a G40 and PSA-5.7Rock). They are neat but I don’t shoot ANY better with or without the red dot. All they do is add bulk to the gun.
Still, kinda cool looking. |
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I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy Glock and thy AR15, they comfort me.
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Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: They still dogpiled on me after asking why this was so important for them to get the last words and be purposely insulting with people that even said a harmless "not for me" and that I am fine with irons for my handguns. Even had some stalk me derping ignorant crap about muh presentationz is craps" despite me telling them that I never had that problem before and without knowing anything about me (projection, he was projecting his own issues into me and after being called on kit, he post stalked me which was super cringe just some of my other stalkers that I no longer see anymore because the ignore is a wonderful feature making my time much more pleasant). There are obvious trolls that the cult of handgun dots have taken the bait and shitted on, not knowing that they just got outplayed by a dot user, lol. But to say that it's disingenuous about non dot users crying wolf, is being disingenuous all on it's own. One even admitted that it was an actual agenda of his and why he refuses to accept anyone's answer that isn't an automatic yes. The rest don't have the integrity to say no. And L-O-L at the ones being banned from the handgun forums over red dot arguments by those saying no. getting banned from from tech is pretty telling that the issue is with the banned and not the ones saying no thank you. That's what makes your claim that it's us and not you guys full of it. It's the new AR vs shotgun fun for GD, and OP is a troll for doing another one when there was an already weakly one that ran it's course. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Originally Posted By Redbirdxx: Originally Posted By 8w7: Because the same 6 guys cannot help themselves. They fight tooth and nail like Jehovah’s Witnesses or cult members when anyone dares to say that dots aren’t for them. That’s why some have been banned from the handgun forum. It’s utterly ridiculous. But that's not how these threads go. It's usually someone spouting some ignorant, misinformed crap getting dog piled rather than someone someone who simply says "no thanks, I'm fine with irons". It's been so done to death at this point I usually just sit back and watch, but I've read most of the red dot threads just for the laughs. Casting the anti-red dot crowd as the victims is disingenuous at best. They still dogpiled on me after asking why this was so important for them to get the last words and be purposely insulting with people that even said a harmless "not for me" and that I am fine with irons for my handguns. Even had some stalk me derping ignorant crap about muh presentationz is craps" despite me telling them that I never had that problem before and without knowing anything about me (projection, he was projecting his own issues into me and after being called on kit, he post stalked me which was super cringe just some of my other stalkers that I no longer see anymore because the ignore is a wonderful feature making my time much more pleasant). There are obvious trolls that the cult of handgun dots have taken the bait and shitted on, not knowing that they just got outplayed by a dot user, lol. But to say that it's disingenuous about non dot users crying wolf, is being disingenuous all on it's own. One even admitted that it was an actual agenda of his and why he refuses to accept anyone's answer that isn't an automatic yes. The rest don't have the integrity to say no. And L-O-L at the ones being banned from the handgun forums over red dot arguments by those saying no. getting banned from from tech is pretty telling that the issue is with the banned and not the ones saying no thank you. That's what makes your claim that it's us and not you guys full of it. It's the new AR vs shotgun fun for GD, and OP is a troll for doing another one when there was an already weakly one that ran it's course. You feel better now honey? Just let what the mean anonymous people said on the Internet forum go. Let it all out. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993. Soli Deo Gloria |
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Originally Posted By macman37: Ehhhh it's not really like that though the resistance is usually backed by varying doses of "I don't need none of that newfangled trash if you need that much help hittin' the tergit maybe let yer husband show you how to use real sights " For sure it's great to train with and use both. Beneficial. But some of us who had the same problem but have figured it out are trying to help others figure it out with some shortcuts and are met with resistance. It doesn't help that this thread is posted so often so there is some weariness associated. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By 8w7: Originally Posted By Butternut: Why do some folks get so angry over this? Just shoot pistols like you prefer to shoot em. Are we not adults? It's not middle school anymore, where you have to be concerned about whether folks in the cafeteria or gym class will think you are cool. Because the same 6 guys cannot help themselves. They fight tooth and nail like Jehovah's Witnesses or cult members when anyone dares to say that dots aren't for them. That's why some have been banned from the handgun forum. It's utterly ridiculous. Ehhhh it's not really like that though the resistance is usually backed by varying doses of "I don't need none of that newfangled trash if you need that much help hittin' the tergit maybe let yer husband show you how to use real sights " For sure it's great to train with and use both. Beneficial. But some of us who had the same problem but have figured it out are trying to help others figure it out with some shortcuts and are met with resistance. It doesn't help that this thread is posted so often so there is some weariness associated. |
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72: Meat. From. Bone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By TGE: Shotguns are for shooting birds. ARs are for shooting people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TGE: Originally Posted By JBecker_72: Originally Posted By TradWoodsman: I miss the old shotgun vs AR arguments..... You can use a shotgun for defense, you can use an AR to hunt. |
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We're beating the shit out of this horse again, I see.
MRDS all day every day for me. |
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Originally Posted By Ironhandjohn: Nashville PD have RDSs on their pistols, though I don’t know if they’re a general issue item or private purchase. View Quote IIRC, they are issued to SWAT and maybe some special units. Regular patrol officers still have standard Glocks. Knox County Sheriff’s Office started issuing RDS to some units about a year ago. |
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Originally Posted By rod727: I would wager that Ruger .22 with a red dot will tear one ragged hole .I use something similar for a lot of range work View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rod727: Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: I plan on mine being around a while: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/233E61AA-29FB-4FB1-870C-2CEDD09D287F-1069519.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129976/1AE33E1B-8D66-4E04-A8A6-B23AD0BC1F2D-1806403.jpg I would wager that Ruger .22 with a red dot will tear one ragged hole .I use something similar for a lot of range work |
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<**Me:**> I just spent 95% of my paycheck on LaRue stuff, within 30 minutes of getting paid. < **mfingar:**> For what it's worth, Dillo Dust is great on Ramen.
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: It probably could, if my dumb ass wasn't the one pulling the trigger View Quote Ruger .22’s are pretty awesome. They’re especially awesome when they’re made by Volquartsen. I just punched by ticket for GM in RFPO with this little dude the other day. It might be my favorite gun to shoot. Attached File |
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
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