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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:24:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SamBoga]
A St. Louis judge on Monday awarded nearly $23.5 million to a former police officer who was beaten by colleagues while working undercover during a protest.
Luther Hall was badly injured in the 2017 attack during one of several protests that followed the acquittal of Jason Stockley, a former St. Louis officer, on a murder charge that stemmed from the shooting death of a Black man. Hall previously settled a separate lawsuit with the city for $5 million. In 2022, he sued three former colleagues Randy Hays, Dustin Boone and Christopher Myers for their roles in the attack. Hall, in court on Monday, talked about the severe physical and emotional damages that followed the beating. He suffered several herniated discs and a jaw injury that left him unable to eat. He developed gallstones with complications, requiring surgeries. "Mr. Hall had to endure this severe beating and while that was happening, he knew it was being administered by his colleagues who were sworn to serve and protect," Circuit Judge Joseph Whyte said. https://apnews.com/article/st-louis-officer-beating-235-million-award-e02ff1a30667a4872afea1a0675b4c77 |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:27:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SmilingBandit]
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Seems like this should have been a simple workman's comp claim.
And how are these former coworkers going to pay that much when they are in prison for an unreasonable assault? ETA: I just looked and the first guy is probably about done with his sentance.  The second guy has to be out because he got about half the time that even the defense asked for in sentancing. One year and a day. And the third guy got one year of probation. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:30:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:32:18 PM EDT
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I can see it happening in my head:
"I'm a cop! I'm a cop!" "Stop pretending to be a cop, and we'll stop beating your ass!" |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:33:12 PM EDT
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Somewhat amusing.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:35:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Seems like this should have been a simple workman's comp claim. And how are these former coworkers going to pay that much when they are in prison for an unreasonable assault? ETA: I just looked and the first guy is probably about done with his sentance. 
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:37:11 PM EDT
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Gallstones? From getting beaten up?
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:40:44 PM EDT
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28.5 million.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R2point0: Gallstones? From getting beaten up? Not all doctors are immune to cash grabs. Somebody got paid. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:47:44 PM EDT
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 cops doing cop stuffs, or was it a simple misunderstanding?? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:50:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Lol
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:51:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
[#11]
LoL. I’d love to hear the whole story.. Do the Taxpayers have to pay, or only the perpetrators?
In addition to the settlement with Hall, the city of St. Louis last year paid nearly $5.2 million over allegations that police violated the rights of dozens of people by capturing them in a police “kettle” and arresting them. Some said they were beaten, pepper-sprayed and attacked with stun guns in various downtown protests after the Stockley verdict. What is a police Kettle? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:51:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: LoL. I’d love to hear the whole story.. Do the Taxpayers have to pay, or only the perpetrators? …i think you already know the answer to that. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swolliepop: …i think you already know the answer to that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swolliepop: Originally Posted By BillofRights: LoL. I’d love to hear the whole story.. Do the Taxpayers have to pay, or only the perpetrators? …i think you already know the answer to that. Well, I know the taxpayers are on the hook for 5 mil to Hall and 5 mil to others caught in the Kettle and beaten. But I meant the other 23 million. It sounds like it’s a private judgement against the disgraced cops? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:16:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Well, I know the taxpayers are on the hook for 5 mil to Hall and 5 mil to others caught in the Kettle and beaten. But I meant the other 23 million. It sounds like it’s a private judgement against the disgraced cops? perhaps? i’m not sure. still curious what a police kettle is. that’s a new one for me! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:21:17 PM EDT
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...isn't that something.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:24:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: LoL. I’d love to hear the whole story.. Do the Taxpayers have to pay, or only the perpetrators? In addition to the settlement with Hall, the city of St. Louis last year paid nearly $5.2 million over allegations that police violated the rights of dozens of people by capturing them in a police “kettle” and arresting them. Some said they were beaten, pepper-sprayed and attacked with stun guns in various downtown protests after the Stockley verdict. What is a police Kettle? It is a pot. Often used for heating up liquids. Kettling is corralling. You use actual bodies to contain people or animals. You surround and then arrest. You leave no way for them to escape. This is good for mass arrests BUT it can be very problematic. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swolliepop: perhaps? i'm not sure. still curious what a police kettle is. that's a new one for me! |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:32:19 PM EDT
[#18]
They were just helping to increase his deep cover.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: I can see it happening in my head: "I'm a cop! I'm a cop!" "Stop pretending to be a cop, and we'll stop pretending we're beating your ass!" FIFY.  BTW, good award. Stay within the law. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:34:46 PM EDT
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Sounds like an occupational hazard. He was in the crowd to turn the cops to do the same thing to someone else. If it would’ve happened to someone else he would’ve been screaming it was justified.
Personally I hope they screamed stop resisting the whole time… |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:41:01 PM EDT
[#21]
Hands up, don’t shoot.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:07:49 PM EDT
[#22]
One wonders if he ever beat the crap out of someone in his career? Maybe, maybe not...
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:10:16 PM EDT
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Meanwhile this guy gets beat to shit by the fbi and a grand rapids police officer and doesn't get shit.
 SCOTUS rules against GR man beaten by officers |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jm0502: Meanwhile this guy gets beat to shit by the fbi and a grand rapids police officer and doesn't get shit.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSOxNc6mxQthat’s beyond fucked up. jeeze |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:15:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: It is a pot. Often used for heating up liquids. Kettling is corralling. You use actual bodies to contain people or animals. You surround and then arrest. You leave no way for them to escape. This is good for mass arrests BUT it can be very problematic. We’ve been restricted from kettling since around 2015. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:28:01 PM EDT
[#26]
maybe his colleagues just really, really, did not like him
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:55:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swolliepop: still curious what a police kettle is. that's a new one for me! |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:57:32 PM EDT
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Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE.
The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:58:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: Sounds like an occupational hazard. He was in the crowd to turn the cops to do the same thing to someone else. If it would’ve happened to someone else he would’ve been screaming it was justified. Personally I hope they screamed stop resisting the whole time… Exactly. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:01:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous Yeah, it's ridiculous. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:12:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous Inflation is up. 30 million doesn't get you what it used to. That only like a couple starter houses today. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:15:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCPatrolAR: We’ve been restricted from kettling since around 2015. We have never trained using it outside an arrest for a very small group. None of the fed training I have done has ever included it. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Seems like this should have been a simple workman's comp claim. And how are these former coworkers going to pay that much when they are in prison for an unreasonable assault? ETA: I just looked and the first guy is probably about done with his sentance. The second guy has to be out because he got about half the time that even the defense asked for in sentancing. One year and a day. And the third guy got one year of probation. Workman's comp? LOL. They beat the guy. I hope your trolling. The cops and the city need to pay big. If they can't or don't pay, it should come out of the police pension fund. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: We have never trained using it outside an arrest for a very small group. None of the fed training I have done has ever included it. When we did train up for 2012 DNC we were told not to do it by the feds. In 2015 the agency wrote policy about not doing it |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: Workman's comp? LOL. They beat the guy. I hope your trolling. The cops and the city need to pay big. If they can't or don't pay, it should come out of the police pension fund. It's honestly a bit odd to be honest. If he was beat by the crowd that's how it would have happened. |
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MP, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:45:42 PM EDT
[#36]
Was it paid from the police pension fund?
Because it should be. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 4:59:18 PM EDT
[#37]
No qualified imunity for the beat down cops?
Odd. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:01:45 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Somewhat amusing. So karma was clearly operational here. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scratch45: maybe his colleagues just really, really, did not like him Snitches get stitches. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous What percentage of payouts actually goes to him though, instead of lawyers and other legal fees? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:09:46 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTHP: No qualified imunity for the beat down cops? Odd. Beating other cops is frowned upon |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:16:29 PM EDT
[#42]
Homie better get with JG wentworth to cash in that judgment
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:36:08 PM EDT
[#43]
Which one am I supposed to root for?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:50:12 PM EDT
[#44]
Why didn’t he just comply?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:08:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eustice: Why didn’t he just comply? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:09:57 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:11:01 PM EDT
[#47]
How many protesters that weren't undercover cops got paid? Likely none.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:17:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: Sounds like an occupational hazard. He was in the crowd to turn the cops to do the same thing to someone else. If it would've happened to someone else he would've been screaming it was justified. Personally I hope they screamed stop resisting the whole time |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:22:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Inflation is up. 30 million doesn't get you what it used to. That only like a couple starter houses today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Originally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous Inflation is up. 30 million doesn't get you what it used to. That only like a couple starter houses today. Arf loves that shit. There was a thread here about a guy who's employer threw him a a bday party against his will. Most arfcommers thought $500k was an acceptable payout for such atrocities. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:35:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Almost 30 million! Settlements and jury verdicts have gone INSANE. The guy was horribly mistreated and deserved a payday, but that's ridiculous Are we not doing toot toot anymore? 
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