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Posted: 7/28/2014 5:27:38 AM EDT
You're gonna be in a 1 on 1 bayonet fight.
You don't know what the other guy is gonna have (It's gonna be an empty rifle with a bayonet, that's all you know). If your choice doesn't make it to my list feel free to add your choice. Remember that ergonomics just might trump overall length when making your decision. That M16 pistol grip might come in handy in a bayonet fight. Hit my massive pole! |
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I_FGbVLk_7U/ULvcvSY8rOI/AAAAAAAAAJY/Vnibob7Dk0w/s1600/Pattern+1853+002_a+crop.jpg I clicked on this thread intending to say Enfield 1853. So I voted Springfield 1861. View Quote Same. |
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I voted for the Mosin.
Considerations: 1. You want maximum reach. 2. The M1861 Springfield and the Brown Bess have greater reach, but their bayonets are offset (because of the clearance needed to load from the muzzle). The Mosin bayonet is closer ot the line of the bore. The blade is also stiffer. 3. The bayonet is primarily a stabbing weapon. Therefore a spike is better than a blade, when mounted as a bayonet. Knife-bayonets were an attempt to have more versatility. |
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What can I say? That is the greatest post I've seen on here in a long time. |
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3. The bayonet is primarily a stabbing weapon. Therefore a spike is better than a blade, when mounted as a bayonet. Knife-bayonets were an attempt to have more versatility. View Quote Bayonet drill that developed with blade bayonets took advantage of the slashing option, but yea… When you and another dude are both fighting with pointy things, the dude with the longer one wins. It's an allegory for life. |
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Well, I know what I hope the other guy has, the longest thing they can get, so when I use my little Model 12 trench gun to block their shit, it will be easy to step in, and render their bullshit useless.
Except if it's RA and his god damn Halberd... All he has to do is snap it straight back and catch ya with the bottom of the axe. |
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Have any of you actually HELD any of these?
The musket w/ bayo's weigh a fookin' ton. Its like swinging around a bloody telephone pole. Dude with a lighter/faster set-up will stick you! |
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No Garand ? You fail in the most severe way possible. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes This Quoted:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I_FGbVLk_7U/ULvcvSY8rOI/AAAAAAAAAJY/Vnibob7Dk0w/s1600/Pattern+1853+002_a+crop.jpg I clicked on this thread intending to say Enfield 1853. So I voted Springfield 1861. Followed closely by this, but both rendered invalid by this: Never bring a bayonet to a halberd fight. |
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View Quote If you would mount a screen door on it, all you have to do is slam the door and the enemy would prone themselves out. |
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OP's massive pole needs to be struck with the solid walnut stock of a M1 Garand. |
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Brown Bess Musket.
Hide in a low tree branch or behind a big rock. Detach bayonet, leave musket in plain view. (Hey, who could resist fucking around with an old musket?) Use the bayonet to kill the fuck out of the bad buy when he bends over to pick up the musket. Profit. |
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owning most of those on the list my vote would be a k-98.
sturdy light and fast. the M1 is slow to use with a bayonet due to weight and size. this assumes we are both out of ammo. |
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Or a Japanese type 38 with bayonet. It had a hook on the hilt that they were trained to use to lock onto an enemy's bayonet and disarm before they ran the poor sap through. Or what about the Japanese LMG bren gun clone with bayonet?
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Or the other thing.....something shorter that will get you inside where he can't effectivley maneauver but you still can. |
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What did the gladius do to the battlefield? Longer and heavier is not always better. Except in the bedroom....
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Krag with the bowie bayonet View Quote BAD choice. Look at how thin the wood is under the magazine. Having replaced a broken stock on mine, I wouldn't use it for a fight like that. It's an awesomely well balanced, great handling rifle, and if it had the strength it'd make a good pike too, but it just wouldn't take the abuse. Too thin. For a bayo fight, I want something light and quick. I trained with the A1, so I picked the A2. Reach is great, but I'm not gonna STAY at halberd fighting distance. I'm gonna knock that long spike out of the way, step inside and plant the butt plate in his face. Why? That's easy...... Because blood makes the grass grow. |
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And despite the fact that blood makes the grass grow, no way in fuck do I EVER want to get in that kind of fight.
You've gotta have a special kind of oh shit moment go through your brain before you decide to use a bayonet on someone. The levels of previous oh shit to get to that one would be epic. |
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owning most of those on the list my vote would be a k-98. sturdy light and fast. the M1 is slow to use with a bayonet due to weight and size. this assumes we are both out of ammo. View Quote Exactly. Personally I would go for the M1903, specifically with the early straight stock and the M1905 bayonet or the 98k for it's ergonomics in stabby stabby mode. I wonder how many guys screaming "No M1, poll fail!" have actually held an M1 rifle with a bayonet attached. Compared to many it's heavy and awkward. |
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Amusing it's open ground and not close quarters I voted Brown Bess(SP). You want the longest possible weapon. Hell screw the rifle give me a spear...
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