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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:19:38 PM EDT
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Felons can get rights back, but a DV case is for life. That is not right in my book. Some had rights taken away from shit before the bill passed back then. I know a guy that it happened to.
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARCNA442: I love all the GDs who think this mentality would lead to "solving problems" and not a bunch of gangster gunning down anyone who looks at them sideways like what currently happens in those ghettos. Hate to break it to you man, but you'd probably be one of the "problems" that someone decides to "solve" in that scenario, not a "problem solver." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARCNA442: Originally Posted By LeadBreakfast: That's about the only thing that the ghetto does correctly - there are a lot of blind people there. Modern America is so full of Karens that the most heinous, sick criminals could be fixed quickly and permanently for $0.25 and someone would have squads rolling yesterday to come hem up the problem solvers. I love all the GDs who think this mentality would lead to "solving problems" and not a bunch of gangster gunning down anyone who looks at them sideways like what currently happens in those ghettos. Hate to break it to you man, but you'd probably be one of the "problems" that someone decides to "solve" in that scenario, not a "problem solver." I've lived in the ghetto. If you don't start shit there won't be any. The vast majority of the issues would sort themselves out if left to their own devices. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:32:45 PM EDT
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You know what I'm not worried about? Felons getting guns, legally or illegally. You know what I am worried about? Motherfucking chickenshit Karens that, under the guise of 'trying to help', interfere with the people's right to keep and bear arms.
Knock it off, you dumb freedom-hating security-loving twatwaffles. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: He was charged with violating a long-standing federal law that bans convicted felons from ever again possessing guns - a rule that applied to him because he was convicted in 2017 of aggravated assault with a firearm. Good. Fuck NBA YoungBoy. Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. You give the enemies of greed an excuse to take away your rights, they will. Don’t give them an excuse. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:35:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fair2Middlin: Where’s the constitutional amendment that describes protection of rights in your scenario? Cruel & unusual punishment, unlawful search and seizure, equal protection, and lets ignore the ex post facto aspect. You can't go near a school, work around kids, must submit to lifetime monitoring, require to submit to state verification of residence/job/etc. ( which can be quarterly), can't do any contract work at schools, child care facilities, kid's sports, and so on. You cannot own, manage, or be involved in a business that deals with any of these either. It is funny you think the govt can do all these things and not see as any violation of your rights. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:35:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 21usernamechecksout: Why can't they use that losers legal name? It sounds so stupid to continually refer to that loser's stage name. A grown man being referred to by a faggy stage name is sophomoric. That IS his legal name |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:40:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: This, 100%! Not sure how people on a gun forum don't get it. "The average person (unknowingly) commits 3 felonies a day". And it’s followed up too often by “He had it coming, good shoot!” blue line cucks. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:41:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: But to hell with the law. It’s been weaponized against decent folks, and will continue to be used against us to the point where voicing an unpopular opinion makes you a prohibited person. Fuck that nonsense. If someone cannot be trusted with a weapon, they have no business walking around unsupervised. This, it's really that simple. Also clearly gun laws don't stop them from getting guns anyway. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:44:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: It's literally the definition of a strawman argument. Conflating a felony for a crime where the law is the only "victim" with a felony that has a clear victim is about as far apart as you can get... Who is the victim of having sex in a public place? How about the swinger clubs that get busted? Live sex acts? Who is the victim of possessing generated child porn? Pandering? Prostitution? Can adults have sex? Unless one is a volunteer coach with kids while the other is still in HS and then it become a state crime, right? Who is the victim there? And do we want to discuss crimes against nature? Those were illegal for decades too. Consenting adults. I am not the one arguing for rights restoration. People here are. They are just blind to see the actual ramifications of it. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadBreakfast: That's about the only thing that the ghetto does correctly - there are a lot of blind people there. Modern America is so full of Karens that the most heinous, sick criminals could be fixed quickly and permanently for $0.25 and someone would have squads rolling yesterday to come hem up the problem solvers. It was weird when we had a 7 year old killed. No one would roll or say a word, but there were 30 witnesses and we knew who the shooter likely was. They all knew who did it. It wasn't until a dude got pinched on trying to rob a store that he snitched in exchange for probation. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:47:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: I kinda agree with the defendant. If someone does their time and are released they should have all their rights back. If they are still provably a danger to society they shouldn't be released. The reason it doesn't work that way is we incarcerate far too many people for victimless "crimes" which is not just immoral but a ridiculous waste of tax dollars that destroys families and further degrades society as a whole. Society is circling the drain and idiots are screaming they need just a little more water to make it better. He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. The answer is, more than anything else, that these people should still be in prison. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. Why is he being released? |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: I don't see how that's remotely true. Simple petty misdemeanors, maybe. Felonies though? lol, no. Not the average person anyway. Well you faith in the state is noted. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:30:19 PM EDT
[#14]
I guess I don’t have a problem with violent felons being barred from possessing firearms. Should be an avenue to have rights restored, to address miscarriages of justice, etc. Also, if anyone uses a firearm in legitimate self defense, then they should probably get a pass.
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: He was charged with violating a long-standing federal law that bans convicted felons from ever again possessing guns - a rule that applied to him because he was convicted in 2017 of aggravated assault with a firearm. Good. Fuck NBA YoungBoy. Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. @JeepersCreepers What about Daniel Perry, the Uber driver who shot a dude when the other dude pointed an ak47 at him? Between activist judges and activist jurors,- even if you don't believe in the 2a, should men like that lose their right to self defense for life? 2a says "shall not be infringed". Lifetime ban on guns is a severe infringement and there are no exceptions to the 2a... |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:40:38 PM EDT
[#16]
If you stab someone, are you still allowed to own knives/swords when you get out prison?
What’s makes guns special? They’re both arms. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17: Felons can get rights back, but a DV case is for life. That is not right in my book. Some had rights taken away from shit before the bill passed back then. I know a guy that it happened to. In some state a merely yelling, refusing to give money, or not replying to a phone call is legally considered “DV” |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:42:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadBreakfast: I've lived in the ghetto. If you don't start shit there won't be any. The vast majority of the issues would sort themselves out if left to their own devices. Wrong dude, many young Gs love to start shit because they are bored. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: If they decorated a tree with people the first time they committed a violent felony this wouldn't be an issue That's how shit worked when the 2nd Amendment was written. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 11:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: I had to read half the article to realize it was a case against a person, and not an organization named by a Chinese marketing agent for duplicate Amazon products. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 11:40:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: But to hell with the law. It’s been weaponized against decent folks, and will continue to be used against us to the point where voicing an unpopular opinion makes you a prohibited person. Fuck that nonsense. If someone cannot be trusted with a weapon, they have no business walking around unsupervised. End goal right there. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:32:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: I kinda agree with the defendant. If someone does their time and are released they should have all their rights back. If they are still provably a danger to society they shouldn't be released. The reason it doesn't work that way is we incarcerate far too many people for victimless "crimes" which is not just immoral but a ridiculous waste of tax dollars that destroys families and further degrades society as a whole. Society is circling the drain and idiots are screaming they need just a little more water to make it better. It doesn't work because overworked DAs let them plead down from first degree murder to a lesser charge. We should prohibit felons that commit felonies that existed historically. Murder, assault, rape should disqualify them. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:33:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Well you faith in the state is noted. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Originally Posted By JBecker_72: I don't see how that's remotely true. Simple petty misdemeanors, maybe. Felonies though? lol, no. Not the average person anyway. Well you faith in the state is noted. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:34:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: But to hell with the law. It’s been weaponized against decent folks, and will continue to be used against us to the point where voicing an unpopular opinion makes you a prohibited person. Fuck that nonsense. If someone cannot be trusted with a weapon, they have no business walking around unsupervised. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: He was charged with violating a long-standing federal law that bans convicted felons from ever again possessing guns - a rule that applied to him because he was convicted in 2017 of aggravated assault with a firearm. Good. Fuck NBA YoungBoy. Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. But to hell with the law. It’s been weaponized against decent folks, and will continue to be used against us to the point where voicing an unpopular opinion makes you a prohibited person. Fuck that nonsense. If someone cannot be trusted with a weapon, they have no business walking around unsupervised. +1 Yup. Think bigger then this case. The law is unjust and should be struck down. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:35:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Creating a permanent disability gives little incentive to "straighten up and fly right" afterwards. Remaining a second class citizen is also problematic. For every dirtbag rapper with a violence problem... how many Martha Stewarts, Wesley Snipes, and hell... even some of the J6 folks who were non-violent currently in jail on felony political persecutions, are there? None of the Federal laws on the books pass even an abstract Constitutional "smell" test. The only reason the NFA, and later the GCA and FOPA that modified it and created new infringements, is still in place is because it gave government a LOT of power it isn't supposed to have in the first place. Shall... not... be... infringed. There is tons of minor or accidental crimes that are felonies especially on the federal level. If the law prohibited only actual violent felons I wouldn't mind as much, but the blanket all approach makes me strongly against the law. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:38:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: I kinda agree with the defendant. If someone does their time and are released they should have all their rights back. If they are still provably a danger to society they shouldn't be released. The reason it doesn't work that way is we incarcerate far too many people for victimless "crimes" which is not just immoral but a ridiculous waste of tax dollars that destroys families and further degrades society as a whole. Society is circling the drain and idiots are screaming they need just a little more water to make it better. He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. There is no right to particular employment, not remotely the same as an enumerated right. Why should a child molester be out at all would be my question ? If he is, there is no right to work at a school. Apples and oranges. I get why you don't want violent felons armed, but the law as it stands prohibits far more then that. Lets hope you never make a mistake on your taxes or protest on the wrong side of the line somewhere. Or post a meme the government doesn't like. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:39:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Both are convicted of crimes that have additional consequences away from the serving of the sentence. You either support their rights being restored or you do not. No strawman but a 100% valid consequence of what you support. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Convicted child molesters should be executed. But... your strawman is noted. Now... about catching a felony for free speech and having your 2A rights infringed... Because THAT has actually happened. Both are convicted of crimes that have additional consequences away from the serving of the sentence. You either support their rights being restored or you do not. No strawman but a 100% valid consequence of what you support. I support the bill of rights applying to all free people. Regulation or discrimination in employment has nothing to do with that. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:41:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: You mean like tax evasion or something? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SAE: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By JBecker_72: I don't see how that's remotely true. Simple petty misdemeanors, maybe. Felonies though? lol, no. Not the average person anyway. If you haven't inadvertently committed a Federal felony at some point, you probably haven't actually done anything with your life. You mean like tax evasion or something? Or driving on a public road within 1000 feet of a school with a gun that isn't in a case, locked, and unloaded. CCW permit exempts you but many don't have one or didn't always. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:44:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: He was charged with violating a long-standing federal law that bans convicted felons from ever again possessing guns - a rule that applied to him because he was convicted in 2017 of aggravated assault with a firearm. Good. Fuck NBA YoungBoy. Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. Nope. That's dumb. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:47:07 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Who is the victim of having sex in a public place? How about the swinger clubs that get busted? Live sex acts? Who is the victim of possessing generated child porn? Pandering? Prostitution? Can adults have sex? Unless one is a volunteer coach with kids while the other is still in HS and then it become a state crime, right? Who is the victim there? And do we want to discuss crimes against nature? Those were illegal for decades too. Consenting adults. I am not the one arguing for rights restoration. People here are. They are just blind to see the actual ramifications of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: It's literally the definition of a strawman argument. Conflating a felony for a crime where the law is the only "victim" with a felony that has a clear victim is about as far apart as you can get... Who is the victim of having sex in a public place? How about the swinger clubs that get busted? Live sex acts? Who is the victim of possessing generated child porn? Pandering? Prostitution? Can adults have sex? Unless one is a volunteer coach with kids while the other is still in HS and then it become a state crime, right? Who is the victim there? And do we want to discuss crimes against nature? Those were illegal for decades too. Consenting adults. I am not the one arguing for rights restoration. People here are. They are just blind to see the actual ramifications of it. The reality is there is some bad people that would no longer be prohibited that likely should have been prohibited and some good/decent that would no longer be prohibited that shouldn't have been in the first place. Which is more important to you ? I believe its more important to ensure decent people's rights are not infringed then to the punish the bad. The bad guys will get one anyway. One example the vast majority of gun owners have probably violated the federal gun free school zone acts without even knowing it. Get caught and they'll be prohibited for life. For driving down the road on the way to their hunting blind. You are OK with that ? |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:48:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Or driving on a public road within 1000 feet of a school with a gun that isn't in a case, locked, and unloaded. CCW permit exempts you but many don't have one or didn't always. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:56:07 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: You really think the average person commits three felonies a day? Give examples please. https://www.google.com/search?q=3+felonies+a+day+examples&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS882US882&oq=3+fel&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQLhiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDY0OTlqMGo0qAIAsAIA&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-alleged-everyday-felonies-committed-by-almost-every-American Stop giving the state power, or the benefit of any doubt dude. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:56:16 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: You really think the average person commits three felonies a day? Give examples please. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Originally Posted By JBecker_72: I don't see how that's remotely true. Simple petty misdemeanors, maybe. Felonies though? lol, no. Not the average person anyway. Well you faith in the state is noted. Three a day may be an exaggeration for many. But I would bet the average person commits a lot more then they realize. The federal code in particular is very burdensome and complex. I think there is tons of things the feds could twist and fit to most people. Dispose of every chemical properly ? In any quantity ? The EPA could likely find most people in violation of something if they tried. Have any copied/burned CDs/movies ? If you don't have a CCW permit, do you ensure to lock all your guns unloaded in a case every time you leave your property ? Because most people probably pass within 1000 ft of a school sometimes. Depending on what business a person is in, likely lots of minor mistakes on paperwork could do it. Taxes for most everyone. Ever use a spouse's leftover medication ? I believe transporting firewood between upper and lower penisula in Michigan used to be a state felony, not sure if it still is. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:58:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: There is no right to particular employment, not remotely the same as an enumerated right. Why should a child molester be out at all would be my question ? If he is, there is no right to work at a school. Apples and oranges. I get why you don't want violent felons armed, but the law as it stands prohibits far more then that. Lets hope you never make a mistake on your taxes or protest on the wrong side of the line somewhere. Or post a meme the government doesn't like. Some people worship the state, in a misguided view that if they appease it they will be spared its wrath when they inevitably transgress against it merely by existing. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 1:59:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: The reality is there is some bad people that would no longer be prohibited that likely should have been prohibited and some good/decent that would no longer be prohibited that shouldn't have been in the first place. Which is more important to you ? I believe its more important to ensure decent people's rights are not infringed then to the punish the bad. The bad guys will get one anyway. One example the vast majority of gun owners have probably violated the federal gun free school zone acts without even knowing it. Get caught and they'll be prohibited for life. For driving down the road on the way to their hunting blind. You are OK with that ? Sadly, some are ok with it. Because they can’t understand that the law isn’t there to protect you, the law is there to get you. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 2:03:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: Ok, that's a pretty fair example. Still, three a day seems far fetched though for your average person. Are you familiar with the legal minefield theory?? Basically the gist of the theory is there are so many laws that you cannot help, but violate them which is great for the powers that be because they can easily silence and harass dissidents simply because there’s so many laws in existence, many of which are completely superfluous, and we have no real meaning or value to society, except to harass and abuse for the sake of harassment and abuse. Just because you do t think it happens does not change the fact good people have their lives ruined every day by these nonsensical laws and the brainwashed fucks that enforce them. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 2:16:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: https://www.google.com/search?q=3+felonies+a+day+examples&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS882US882&oq=3+fel&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQLhiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDY0OTlqMGo0qAIAsAIA&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-alleged-everyday-felonies-committed-by-almost-every-American Stop giving the state power, or the benefit of any doubt dude. I'm sure people do commit accidental federal felonies here and there. Not doubting that. But it would seem you'd have to go out of your way to commit three a day consistently. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 2:21:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Are you familiar with the legal minefield theory?? Basically the gist of the theory is there are so many laws that you cannot help, but violate them which is great for the powers that be because they can easily silence and harass dissidents simply because there's so many laws in existence, many of which are completely superfluous, and we have no real meaning or value to society, except to harass and abuse for the sake of harassment and abuse. Just because you do t think it happens does not change the fact good people have their lives ruined every day by these nonsensical laws and the brainwashed fucks that enforce them. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 2:30:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt, and your link is pretty weak at proving the statement true. I'm sure people do commit accidental federal felonies here and there. Not doubting that. But it would seem you'd have to go out of your way to commit three a day consistently. Doesn’t matter how many you commit how often, it only takes ONE for these parasites to ruin your life. Google more examples of this, don’t depend on others to info or educate you. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 2:43:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Sadly, some are ok with it. Because they can’t understand that the law isn’t there to protect you, the law is there to get you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: The reality is there is some bad people that would no longer be prohibited that likely should have been prohibited and some good/decent that would no longer be prohibited that shouldn't have been in the first place. Which is more important to you ? I believe its more important to ensure decent people's rights are not infringed then to the punish the bad. The bad guys will get one anyway. One example the vast majority of gun owners have probably violated the federal gun free school zone acts without even knowing it. Get caught and they'll be prohibited for life. For driving down the road on the way to their hunting blind. You are OK with that ? Sadly, some are ok with it. Because they can’t understand that the law isn’t there to protect you, the law is there to get you. I think another big part of it is they just don't think it can happen to them. But it could. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 3:06:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: Doesn't matter how many you commit how often, it only takes ONE for these parasites to ruin your life. Google more examples of this, don't depend on others to info or educate you. Carry on. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 3:06:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:27:41 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: I kinda agree with the defendant. If someone does their time and are released they should have all their rights back. If they are still provably a danger to society they shouldn't be The reason it doesn't work that way is we incarcerate far too many people for victimless "crimes" which is not just immoral but a ridiculous waste of tax dollars that destroys families and further degrades society as a whole. Society is circling the drain and idiots are screaming they need just a little more water to make it better. While I understand and agree with the sentiment, but from a practical real world point of view..... have you looked at how the criminal justice system actually works? It's a shitshow with state attorneys routinely acting in immoral, unethical and illegal ways with almost no consequences for their actions. Don't believe me? Go watch the Rittenhouse trial and realize that wasn't an oddity or outlier, that was standard operating procedure for most state attorneys. The Rittenhouse trial was just live streamed and he (unlike most defendants) had a competent defense. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 8:28:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: I kinda agree with the defendant. If someone does their time and are released they should have all their rights back. If they are still provably a danger to society they shouldn't be released. The reason it doesn't work that way is we incarcerate far too many people for victimless "crimes" which is not just immoral but a ridiculous waste of tax dollars that destroys families and further degrades society as a whole. Society is circling the drain and idiots are screaming they need just a little more water to make it better. He shot at someone before. Not a "victimless" crime. But you want rights restored, right? The child molester was just released and wants a job at the local school. He should be hired, right? We need to end sex offense registration, since they served their time too. Is English your second language? |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:11:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By motoguzzi: It doesn't work because overworked DAs let them plead down from first degree murder to a lesser charge. We should prohibit felons that commit felonies that existed historically. Murder, assault, rape should disqualify them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By motoguzzi: Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: I kinda agree with the defendant. If someone does their time and are released they should have all their rights back. If they are still provably a danger to society they shouldn't be released. The reason it doesn't work that way is we incarcerate far too many people for victimless "crimes" which is not just immoral but a ridiculous waste of tax dollars that destroys families and further degrades society as a whole. Society is circling the drain and idiots are screaming they need just a little more water to make it better. It doesn't work because overworked DAs let them plead down from first degree murder to a lesser charge. We should prohibit felons that commit felonies that existed historically. Murder, assault, rape should disqualify them. Those poor, poor da's  MOST CORRUPT: District Attorney - Harry Connick Sr. - Forgotten History |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 9:16:04 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: But to hell with the law. It’s been weaponized against decent folks, and will continue to be used against us to the point where voicing an unpopular opinion makes you a prohibited person. Fuck that nonsense. If someone cannot be trusted with a weapon, they have no business walking around unsupervised. first post did not nail it. Thank you for making a solid second post. |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 1:24:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: He was charged with violating a long-standing federal law that bans convicted felons from ever again possessing guns - a rule that applied to him because he was convicted in 2017 of aggravated assault with a firearm. Good. Fuck NBA YoungBoy. Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. +1 |
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Posted: 3/16/2024 2:03:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Two-dogs: +1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Two-dogs: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: He was charged with violating a long-standing federal law that bans convicted felons from ever again possessing guns - a rule that applied to him because he was convicted in 2017 of aggravated assault with a firearm. Good. Fuck NBA YoungBoy. Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. +1 Yeah, why give a perfectly good gun to a corpse? |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 4:44:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnnypantz: first post did not nail it. Thank you for making a solid second post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnnypantz: Originally Posted By rb889: But to hell with the law. It’s been weaponized against decent folks, and will continue to be used against us to the point where voicing an unpopular opinion makes you a prohibited person. Fuck that nonsense. If someone cannot be trusted with a weapon, they have no business walking around unsupervised. first post did not nail it. Thank you for making a solid second post. Amen |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 5:01:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: So edgy. Yep totally the same thing as gangbangers intentionally gunning people down on public streets just because they got "beef". Using that logic Darrel Brooks Jr. deserves his drivers license back because intentionally running over people at a Christmas parade is no different than when a cop crashes and kills someone on his way to a call. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Originally Posted By Urbdok: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Shoot at people who don't need to be shot at and you shouldn't be allowed to legally possess a gun ever again. For real? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmington-new-mexico-police-kill-wrong-address-rcna105152 So edgy. Yep totally the same thing as gangbangers intentionally gunning people down on public streets just because they got "beef". Using that logic Darrel Brooks Jr. deserves his drivers license back because intentionally running over people at a Christmas parade is no different than when a cop crashes and kills someone on his way to a call. Having a driving license is not a constitutional right |
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