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Posted: 4/24/2024 8:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbrtime: Don't need another shotgun. Will be buying another shotgun. Or two.. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Makarov: I am not certain but I suspect the design allows you to cut the barrel AND the mag-tube to whatever length you desire and make it all work, including the end cap. Iirc, Shockwave Industries used to offer a similar barrel clamp. I think you may be right. They probably are intent to supply tubes of various lengths and this it the end cap for them all |
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BC, CAN
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:14:28 PM EDT
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I can't see any super compelling reason I'd want to buy one as yet, but it'll help keep the other domestic manufacturers from getting complacent.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:16:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:16:58 PM EDT
[#6]
PSA, we want a belt fed upper.
Please and Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:21:13 PM EDT
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Son of a bitch. How much?
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:23:52 PM EDT
[#8]
I also don't need another shotgun but I will be getting one of these.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:27:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Make is slam-fire and I'm in.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:31:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Looks nice but I'm shot gunned out...
Also...once you go 1301 you don't go back 
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:40:29 PM EDT
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Gotta say, this is a genius idea. Really.
I don’t need another tac pump. But… damn if I’m not gonna buy one… PSA is an awful, awful demon. Thank you PSA… |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:43:57 PM EDT
[#12]
No semi-auto, no care.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 10:57:12 PM EDT
[#13]
@PalmettoStateArmory
@John_Wayne777 is probably our best defensive shotgun SME here. This phase might be a good time to ask him for input. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlphaOperator: PSA, we want a belt fed upper. Please and Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: @PalmettoStateArmory @John_Wayne777 is probably our best defensive shotgun SME here. This phase might be a good time to ask him for input. Based on what I've seen so far, PUT SOME ACTUAL SIGHTS ON IT. The ability to direct mount a dot is nice. But it's not a complete substitute for good iron sights and beads suck for defensive application. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:18:28 PM EDT
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If it's available in a Shockwave style (14") that functions with mini shells, the brick of a barrel clamp is redesigned and it's cheaper than the Mossberg 590S Shockwave then I'm interested, otherwise I'm not looking for another pump shotgun.
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USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:37:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bud: That barrel clamp is enormous. I wonder what the thought process is behind that. I have something similar on mine. One side of it has a QD sling swivel attach point, the other side holds a flashlight mount. Then, overall, the thing has to support the thin-walled extended magazine tube. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:04:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: spydercomonkey]
[#18]
Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them.
PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:15:40 AM EDT
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I can buy an SXP Defender for $329. How much lower can the price point go?
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:04:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gator96: I can buy an SXP Defender for $329. How much lower can the price point go? *better features |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: *better features Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By Gator96: I can buy an SXP Defender for $329. How much lower can the price point go? *better features I was an 870 guy til the bankruptcy, now I'm an 88/500/590/835 guy. Given the Mossberg mag tubes unscrew & you can convert a lowly bog stock 88 to a 588 w/ a bayonet lug, what exactly are we getting out of the 570? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:30:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gator96: I can buy an SXP Defender for $329. How much lower can the price point go? Those are Turkish crap, and they have limited support on the market, so there's that. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:31:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: They’re gonna sell a metric shit ton Yup, I could use a couple. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:33:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Surf: Originally Posted By M1Zeppelin: In before the “where’s the MP5” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64530/IMG_3399_jpeg-3197203.JPG  Attached FileShe can bring the gun along too if she wants. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:48:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: I was an 870 guy til the bankruptcy, now I'm an 88/500/590/835 guy. Given the Mossberg mag tubes unscrew & you can convert a lowly bog stock 88 to a 588 w/ a bayonet lug, what exactly are we getting out of the 570? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By Gator96: I can buy an SXP Defender for $329. How much lower can the price point go? *better features I was an 870 guy til the bankruptcy, now I'm an 88/500/590/835 guy. Given the Mossberg mag tubes unscrew & you can convert a lowly bog stock 88 to a 588 w/ a bayonet lug, what exactly are we getting out of the 570? Yep, a basic Mossberg 88 Security (7+1) is $235 with free shipping from Bud's (just an example) and will do most everything most people wanting a "defensive" shotgun want or need. Despite being a "budget" shotgun they just keep right on working. The only things I'd add would be a plain XS sight on the front, a side saddle of your choice, a sling and a light and you're going to have to add those to any gun you buy. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:53:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1Zeppelin: In before the “where’s the MP5” Still mad about that. Such a tease.  That said,  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:15:01 PM EDT
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So given that it's still a prototype with 3D printed parts... 2 years till it hits the market at best?
3 - 4 years before they actually produce enough that you don't have to camp out on their website to actually get one with the parts you want? Most mossberg upgrade parts are sold out everywhere. |
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BC, CAN
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them. PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. You can get an Ithaca 37 Defence with nitride, granted they're expensive. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:10:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher: That's what I'm curious about. Looks like the trigger group is Mossberg based on the tang safety. I'd presume they went w/ the 870/590 mag tube/barrel ring/nut for flexibility. Looks like a 500 type bolt - which implies a 500/590 barrel/extractor, unless they've figured out how to mate a 500 bolt & an 870 barrel. 500 bolt w/ proprietary 870 compatible locking piece? 870 furniture? That doesn't seem worth the squeeze. Originally Posted By backbencher: If it works w/ stock 870 barrels & mostly Mossberg internals, I'll be hard pressed not to buy one. When it comes to pump shotguns, I'm all 870 here, but I'm open to Mossberg parts. I agree about 870 barrels though. Everyone asking about wood stocks, if it has Magpul SGA furniture, then there is a wood stock that fits it. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnowMexican: You can get an Ithaca 37 Defence with nitride, granted they're expensive. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnowMexican: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them. PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. You can get an Ithaca 37 Defence with nitride, granted they're expensive. That is cool and yes, $1000+ for a pump HD gun is quite high, Definitely would be great to have more Nitride shotgun options. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:22:18 PM EDT
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Looking forward to it. Hope to see shorty options for the SBS and AOW guns.
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Looking forward to it. Hope to see shorty options for the SBS and AOW guns. AOW please |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:46:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: AOW please Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Looking forward to it. Hope to see shorty options for the SBS and AOW guns. AOW please They've already said they will be selling receivers so that makes it easier for a shop to start with. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:01:14 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them. PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. Hell yes on #1 buck. Huge hole in shotgun ammo avalability I see. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:59:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Hell yes on #1 buck. Huge hole in shotgun ammo avalability I see. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them. PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. Hell yes on #1 buck. Huge hole in shotgun ammo avalability I see. Yep, haven't been able to find Rio #1 in 20 ga for a minute for my customers. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:30:24 PM EDT
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I'm a #1 buck fan unless you're running an effective choke, have a Vang Comp barrel or are using the now discontinued #1b FliteControl, the patterns tend to be on the large side for a lot of people's liking.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Hell yes on #1 buck. Huge hole in shotgun ammo avalability I see. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them. PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. Hell yes on #1 buck. Huge hole in shotgun ammo avalability I see. YEEESSSSS! More #1 buck options! |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moyockgunner: Shut up and take my money. I hate you PSA. Not really. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:12:53 PM EDT
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Gimmie a wood one like mossberg did for their heritage line
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:17:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: They've already said they will be selling receivers so that makes it easier for a shop to start with. Really?! Hell yea |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:31:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dunderway]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bud: That barrel clamp is enormous. I wonder what the thought process is behind that. I think that's the only thing retaining the barrel. Which seems a little sketchy to me. Edit: saw another video that says the barrel is retained at the receiver so I might be completely wrong |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:33:24 PM EDT
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Want
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:40:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Based on what I've seen so far, PUT SOME ACTUAL SIGHTS ON IT. The ability to direct mount a dot is nice. But it's not a complete substitute for good iron sights and beads suck for defensive application. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: @PalmettoStateArmory @John_Wayne777 is probably our best defensive shotgun SME here. This phase might be a good time to ask him for input. Based on what I've seen so far, PUT SOME ACTUAL SIGHTS ON IT. The ability to direct mount a dot is nice. But it's not a complete substitute for good iron sights and beads suck for defensive application. I think it uses Glock style of sights Unsure if just front or both |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: I think it uses Glock style of sights Unsure if just front or both |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 5:17:17 PM EDT
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I still think they should make a box mag semi-auto 12 gauge on the large-frame JAKL receiver
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:03:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dunderway: May be other reasons but I'm going with "it's cheap". I think that's the only thing retaining the barrel. Which seems a little sketchy to me. Edit: saw another video that says the barrel is retained at the receiver so I might be completely wrong Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dunderway: Originally Posted By Bud: That barrel clamp is enormous. I wonder what the thought process is behind that. I think that's the only thing retaining the barrel. Which seems a little sketchy to me. Edit: saw another video that says the barrel is retained at the receiver so I might be completely wrong Almost every pump action shotgun on the US market that I can think of has the barrel locked into the receiver by an interface with the magazine tube. That doesn't sound sketchy, it sounds normal. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:32:09 PM EDT
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Mark me down as a #1 buckshot guy. Both the 16 pieces standard load and a 12 piece 1oz @1180 load in a shotcup.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:35:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: YEEESSSSS! More #1 buck options! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Shotgun looks awesome, and I think makes a ton of sense for them. PSA if you are listening, please make Bulk #1 16 pellet Buckshot for the PSA Ammo / AAC line. Its the ideal SD shotgun load, and theres really none on the market available in quantity. AAC #1 Buck would be a perfect pairing with the PSA 570. ... Less important, but I think would be really great for people in humid climates or on boats, would be to have the 570 Nitrided as opposed to Parkerized. This would be much more corrosion resistant, as well as much more wear resistant, and would also further differentiate the 570 from the parkerized competition. Hell yes on #1 buck. Huge hole in shotgun ammo avalability I see. YEEESSSSS! More #1 buck options! Yeah #1 is super limited availability. Just 5 packs from Winchester, Federal, and Rem, which are frequently out of stock. We need a 250rd case, buy cheap stack deep, 'arm the neighborhood with Maverick 88's and 570's' option for #1 Buck |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:34:40 PM EDT
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Looks interesting. I'll buy one when they come out if the price is right, and it functions well. I'll watch other people test them out, and get some long term testing on it. I'll give it a year or two before I buy.
Let me ask, because my eyes are bad. Is that the Go Boom, No Go Boom switch on the right rear of the receiver ? If so, that's good. I like that way better than the 870 location. The last 870 I had, I put a Big Head safety on it, because I had trouble with the stock 870 safety. The Mossberg 500 safety I like a lot better. It's just almost natural to reach your thumb up and flip it off. The location for this one, if it is the safety, seems perfect, just put your finger on it and push it or pull it depending on what you want to do. I'd put a tritium blade on the front and a ghost ring on the back, a light, and a side saddle, and a sling. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thenning: I want a shorty option. I want a non magpul furniture option. |
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