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Cartels have RPGs. Iranians are supplying same to anyone that's anti-US or anti-Israel. When the Attack comes these vehicles will be of little use.
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I bet a pressure cooker or a dead goat full of Ball bearings and scrap would ruin that pretty quickly.
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Quoted: Definitely one of those things that's initially more disturbing than comforting in my mind. However in all fairness if say there was, God forbid, a massive snackbar event, I'd probably be the first to be thankful they were prepared in advance. View Quote They've already said white/ male/ conservative/ veteran are the greatest threat to this country(they really mean gov). Them things are for us, not snackbars |
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By the time they get that out of storage the incident is over.
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Always wanted to weld on an ecto-skeleton to the frame of a truck for re-enforcement and to allow the bolting on of armor plates in an emergency.
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Our sherrifs office has one. I laugh every time I see them towing it to a callout.
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Georgia has one too. Got to watch them deeply it when my neighbor murdered 2 cops. They had already surrendered and an MRAP had already ripped out their doors and windows. Plus the tear gas grenades tore the place up.
Got em |
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Why the shield?
So you can approach closer with a team behind it? If so, how many workers comp cases from broken ankles at the bucket hitch point and pinned under the tracks? |
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PSP has one, they drop it off at work for us to fix. I have been on it and its a neat set up. Armored shield and platform with port holes, bullet proof glass, separated attachments like a breaching pole with multiple cameras and other attachments. Whole set up is towed on a trailer by a F550.
The one I see has taken a few rounds and has a few battle scars. Its far more versatile than a bearcat. These are modified Cat skid steers made by Ring power in FL. |
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I'd drive that around all day blasting Wagner on the PA. Too slow for pursuits but it would be a hoot on barking dog calls.
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Quoted: Back two years ago, town I went to school at, the police wanted a Rook and it got shoot down. So last year the police chief had the Sheriff try to get the county to buy one. That got shot down quick, no one in the county saw a reason for especially with the Sheriff's department has a Bearcat that never gets used, except for photo shoots by the deputies. Local governments should just admit they want to waste money and have something to use to strip people of their rights. View Quote There are plenty of great and petty tyrants in this nation that need to be dealt with. |
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Greene County Sheriffs had HMMWVs and APCs 20 years ago, they stored them by the dump.
Nothing to see here. |
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Quoted: Cartels have RPGs. Iranians are supplying same to anyone that's anti-US or anti-Israel. When the Attack comes these vehicles will be of little use. View Quote I remember reading that Canadian biker gangs who were having wars with each other in Canada in the 1990s managed to get hold of some RPGs and were using them against each other. |
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Drones are changing how wars are fought.
Local PD chief: "Hey, I know what we need. A light weight wanna be tank. Nothing will be able to stop us!" |
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Quoted: Corner of 5th and Broad or thereabouts if I recall. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yep, they were seen on trailers headed towards Richmond on Lobby Day. I'm certain they were staged somewhere and ready to tread. Corner of 5th and Broad or thereabouts if I recall. Where was it parked during the antifa riots? |
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Batterram (12" Vocal Version) |
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Just saw 1 of those being delivered to the Pueblo, PD the other day.
Gittin SPICY roun heer. H |
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Guy with Ak47 vs. The Rook
Guy With Ak47 vs. The Rook - police shooting breakdown |
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Quoted: Back two years ago, town I went to school at, the police wanted a Rook and it got shoot down. So last year the police chief had the Sheriff try to get the county to buy one. That got shot down quick, no one in the county saw a reason for especially with the Sheriff's department has a Bearcat that never gets used, except for photo shoots by the deputies. Local governments should just admit they want to waste money and have something to use to strip people of their rights. View Quote The problem with these specialized vehicles are they cost so much and are only needed for very specific circumstances. Every department ran out and bought Bearcats with 9/11 money and then realized they are huge and very expensive to maintain. In 2010/15 time frame someone had the great idea of getting a cheap MRAP from DRMO and using that instead of a $150,000 Bearcat. Other departments saw that and thought what a great idea. The problem is the MRAPs are even more huge and no truck shop can work on them. If you are in a North Hollywood shot out and need to go get downed officers these are great but how often does that happen. The other problem is in my circumstance years ago as a patrol sergeant trying to set up a perimeter for a barricade in the middle of the night and I request SWAT be called. SWAT doesn't usually work in the middle of the night so they have to come in from home to the scene. One of them has to go to the hanger and get the Bearcat which entails finding the keys and hoping it will start. 2 hours later the Bearcat shows up at the scene. $150 to $200,000 is a lot to spend on something on the specialized piece of equipment you have to try and justify using more than a few times a year. I can see why the smaller and cheaper armored options are being explored. |
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View Quote I understand this reference |
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Quoted: Departments have done that to several places. AFAIK the owner was screwed and left to try to find way to repair their property. These days I wouldnt be surprised if code enforcement follow up and cite them immediately starting the process to eventually try to get a slice of the property by force selling it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah last year police in Houston used it to destroy some innocent guy's house when a scumbag holed up in it instead of just waiting him out. https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2023/08/19/daring-standoff-crane-lifts-armed-officers-to-2nd-story-of-home-forcing-suspect-wanted-in-deputys-shooting-to-give-up/ https://res.cloudinary.com/graham-media-group/image/upload/f_auto/q_auto/c_scale,w_900/v1/media/gmg/UEETIBMGJBC6PMXMXWONBK5EAQ.jpg?_a=AJFJtWIA Departments have done that to several places. AFAIK the owner was screwed and left to try to find way to repair their property. These days I wouldnt be surprised if code enforcement follow up and cite them immediately starting the process to eventually try to get a slice of the property by force selling it. Yeah that's about what I remember it. They get their kicks destroying stuff to get their bad guy, and cost everyone far more in the process. |
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View Quote Kiev during Euromaidan in 2013 or maybe 2014, one of Yanukovych’s IFVs. |
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Wait a minute, wait a minute. What have we here, gentlemen? The police have themselves an RV. Southeast corner.
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I agine trying to expplain to the Founding Father that police need such a thing to police the taxpayers?
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Quoted: Departments have done that to several places. AFAIK the owner was screwed and left to try to find way to repair their property. These days I wouldnt be surprised if code enforcement follow up and cite them immediately starting the process to eventually try to get a slice of the property by force selling it. View Quote Vicki Baker's house in McKinney, TX had the same style event occur. The Institute for Justice took the case and sued claiming the event was a violation of the 5th Amendment's takings clause. They won in the State Supreme Court but McKinney appealed. Vicki lost in that appeal but the case has been appealed by the IFJ stating the court considered arguments that were not relevant to the case. Even though the appeal was lost the attorney from the IFJ states since she won the state case. “Nevertheless, the good news for Vicki Baker is that she also prevailed under the Texas Constitution, and this ruling has no impact on that ground. One way or another, the city of McKinney is going to have to compensate her.” Redfern said the city will have to compensate her because she prevailed in the trial court under both the U.S. and Texas constitutions. “When you win a case in TX under multiple grounds, you have to elect which one you want the court to enter judgment under,” he said. “That’s the only issue that the losing party can appeal. So we chose the U.S. Constitution, the city appealed, and the panel reversed, but we still have a win below under the TX Constitution. If our rehearing petition (and possible cert petition to the Supreme Court) is denied, then the case goes back down, and the court just reenters judgment under the TX Constitution.” He said the city could appeal that judgment, but it would have “essentially zero chance of prevailing” because the Texas Supreme Court has already held that intentional destruction by police is a taking under the state constitution. “The Fifth Circuit would have no choice but to follow the TX Supreme Court’s interpretation of state law,” he said. |
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Quoted: No way that will be used against citizens. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes You can look at any concealed carry thread and say the same thing Quoted: I agine trying to expplain to the Founding Father that police need such a thing to police the taxpayers? Founding fathers used the militia and standing army on the tax payers to Suppress an actual Insurrection |
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