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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:29:10 PM EDT
Im a little jealous. I really want a underground bunker.
Fucking stupid, close to a million on hand and they got caught for stealing electricity. https://www.azfamily.com/2022/10/28/deputies-discover-underground-bunker-filled-with-guns-drugs-waddell-rv-facility/ |
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[#5]
Note to self: When operating an underground safe house full of guns, cash, hookers and blow, don’t be a fucking cheapskate with your utilities.
Seriously… That kinda cash, he could have probably set up solar and made it self-sufficient. |
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[#7]
Sounds like a fun group to party with. Just watch your power outlets.
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aaaaaannnnnnnddddddd, case dismissed.
https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2023-006847 |
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View Quote Meth heads usually don't have close to a million in cash and gold lol. A lot of wtf in this story. |
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Quoted: https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SWPicture4.jpg https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SWPicture2.jpg https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SW-Picture1.jpg https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SWPicture6.jpg View Quote That third pic really makes me want another para sks, preferably another D or M model. I was a fool to trade em off a few years ago. |
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I remember this one from 2022, stealing power. They had a good setup until they did that.
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Quoted: aaaaaannnnnnnddddddd, case dismissed. https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2023-006847 https://i.imgur.com/9lenROi.jpeg View Quote Interesting. Looks like they didnt do a legal search. |
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Quoted: aaaaaannnnnnnddddddd, case dismissed. https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2023-006847 https://i.imgur.com/9lenROi.jpeg View Quote Wow. I wonder how much was returned to them, of what was seized. |
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Quoted: Interesting. Looks like they didn't do a legal search. View Quote Does make you wonder. If the search warrant said, "look for evidence of stealing electricity" and the Sheriff's deputies found evidence of, say, bypassing the meter or tampering with a utility box, but then followed an extension cord (or just continued to search the property) and found the bunker entrance and then went down into the bunker and nothing about underground bunkers was mentioned. |
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Quoted: Will all the victims of gun theft get their firearms back? View Quote at one time there was no check to see if a gun was stollen unless there is a crime so a gun could be stolen, then bought and sold by FFLs with no check to see if it was stolen. I could be wrong but that's my understanding. Its a wonder any stolen guns get returned. |
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Quoted: Does make you wonder. If the search warrant said, "look for evidence of stealing electricity" and the Sheriff's deputies found evidence of, say, bypassing the meter or tampering with a utility box, but then followed an extension cord (or just continued to search the property) and found the bunker entrance and then went down into the bunker and nothing about underground bunkers was mentioned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Interesting. Looks like they didn't do a legal search. Does make you wonder. If the search warrant said, "look for evidence of stealing electricity" and the Sheriff's deputies found evidence of, say, bypassing the meter or tampering with a utility box, but then followed an extension cord (or just continued to search the property) and found the bunker entrance and then went down into the bunker and nothing about underground bunkers was mentioned. Hard to say. Anything in plain view is covered, typically. But search warrants for the interior of structures have to be very specific, I reckon a good lawyer could argue that they had no right to search the interior. But they’ll still take all his shit, and either refuse to return it, or destroy/“lose” it, because they can be petty like that without any real recourse. |
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In the pic of all the guns, does anyone know what that rifle is in the very bottom right? Looks like an A2 carry handle on top of a bolt gun with a telescopic MP5 stock..?
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Quoted: In the pic of all the guns, does anyone know what that rifle is in the very bottom right? Looks like an A2 carry handle on top of a bolt gun with a telescopic MP5 stock..? View Quote That is a Philippine semi auto .22LR that comes dressed up to look “sorta” like an AR. I have one of them with the black painted non-collapsible stock that is a fun plinker. Just can’t remember the name of it right now |
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Quoted: That is a Philippine semi auto .22LR that comes dressed up to look “sorta” like an AR. I have one of them with the black painted non-collapsible stock that is a fun plinker. Just can’t remember the name of it right now View Quote It’s a variant of this: https://special-ops.org/squires-bingham-m16-a-cheap-rimfire-rifle-from-philippines/ |
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Quoted: That is a Philippine semi auto .22LR that comes dressed up to look “sorta” like an AR. I have one of them with the black painted non-collapsible stock that is a fun plinker. Just can’t remember the name of it right now View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In the pic of all the guns, does anyone know what that rifle is in the very bottom right? Looks like an A2 carry handle on top of a bolt gun with a telescopic MP5 stock..? That is a Philippine semi auto .22LR that comes dressed up to look “sorta” like an AR. I have one of them with the black painted non-collapsible stock that is a fun plinker. Just can’t remember the name of it right now There used to be a Bingham (?) AR style .22 imported from the PI as you described advertised in the back of Gun Digest and Shooters Bible. |
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Quoted: aaaaaannnnnnnddddddd, case dismissed. https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2023-006847 https://i.imgur.com/9lenROi.jpeg View Quote In my jurisdiction, a dismissal with prejudice, stemming from a motion to suppress (it appears one was filed in this case) means that the state really crossed the line in terms of constitutional violations. If the state just makes an honest mistake, it’s usually dismissed without prejudice (so if the state can fix the problem or figure out another way to prosecute, they aren’t barred from doing so). When it’s dismissed with prejudice under such circumstances, and I’m assuming they are the same, somebody fucked up really bad. I’m having to make a lot of assumptions to get to this point. I don’t know the facts or the case or the search or what was listed as the reasons for the suppression and or motion to dismiss. Merely stating the facts surrounding the very limited information i have, and applying them to my jurisdiction. No clue what the law is in the state where this happened. I looked at the pics and that’s it Hopefully they are still able to be prosecuted if it is legal and more importantly constitutional to do so. |
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Quoted: https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SWPicture4.jpg https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SWPicture2.jpg https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SW-Picture1.jpg https://static.fox10phoenix.com/www.fox10phoenix.com/content/uploads/2022/10/SWPicture6.jpg View Quote Damn While investigators searched the Swink’s storage facility, they found an underground bunker. The bunker had shipping container boxes stacked together to create a three-level building, with even a scissor jack elevator and tunnel ladders inside. Deputies say they found 36 guns, a pound of methamphetamine, an ounce of cocaine, a half ounce of psychedelic mushrooms and 200 pill capsules. Investigators also found $240,000 in cash and $700,000 worth of gold and silver. The duo was using the stolen electricity to power the bunker, deputies said. “Sawed off shotguns, rifles manufactured with different lengths. We just found out that a lot of those weapons were reported stolen. I mean we are dating back to 2013, 2014,” said Sgt. Joaquin Enriquez with the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Department. Deputies allege the bunker has been there for years. “We believe that it was built maybe ten years ago, so it has been there for a while,” said Enriquez. |
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Quoted: Meth heads usually don't have close to a million in cash and gold lol. A lot of wtf in this story. View Quote Saw a comment on another site suggesting that there's no way these two built or stocked the bunker and were likely being paid to watch / "guard" the property. Just a guess but whoever was paying these people and either owned the property or leased it, effed up and let the power get turned off. As likely drug addicts the defendants would not have the kind of "mainstream" financial assets (checking / savings / credit report) needed to get power turned on to a property, thus the stolen power. |
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Quoted: aaaaaannnnnnnddddddd, case dismissed. https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2023-006847 https://i.imgur.com/9lenROi.jpeg View Quote Fruit of the poisonous tree. Still a mess for the owners. They must have seized everything. If things were stolen, they can't simply return. IRS will want its pound. New charges coming. |
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Quoted: Saw a comment on another site suggesting that there's no way these two built or stocked the bunker and were likely being paid to watch / "guard" the property. Just a guess but whoever was paying these people and either owned the property or leased it, effed up and let the power get turned off. As likely drug addicts the defendants would not have the kind of "mainstream" financial assets (checking / savings / credit report) needed to get power turned on to a property, thus the stolen power. View Quote I may be wrong. The Maricopa County recorder site shows the property at 8601 N 143RD AVE WADDELL 85355 to be owned by the Laura Swink Living Trust. Prior to that it was owned by something called Hi-Torque, Inc., of which Laura Swink was director. Wonder if "Hi-Torque" is something of a play on words. Fwiw, the property is north of the Northern Parkway, directly north of the Luke AFB runway. |
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Quoted: Does make you wonder. If the search warrant said, "look for evidence of stealing electricity" and the Sheriff's deputies found evidence of, say, bypassing the meter or tampering with a utility box, but then followed an extension cord (or just continued to search the property) and found the bunker entrance and then went down into the bunker and nothing about underground bunkers was mentioned. View Quote I represent a utility in a busy "grow house" region. If our guys suspect a diversion, LE is notified and will typically surveil the premises for a while so they can secure a more complete search warrant for the premises. |
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Good?
I mean I hate druggies, but then I don't know to what extent the drugs played. Was it just MJ or was it meth, fentanyl and heroin? Was it tons of it or just personal use? Were they tied to the cartels? The stolen guns makes them scum, but other than the theft and drugs....solid set up. |
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Impossible, I keep hearing you can't bury a shipping container because it will collapse on itself
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Quoted: Saw a comment on another site suggesting that there's no way these two built or stocked the bunker and were likely being paid to watch / "guard" the property. Just a guess but whoever was paying these people and either owned the property or leased it, effed up and let the power get turned off. As likely drug addicts the defendants would not have the kind of "mainstream" financial assets (checking / savings / credit report) needed to get power turned on to a property, thus the stolen power. View Quote I went back and forth with a local co-op for days trying to get utility service for a commercial property moved into my businesses name. Since I had no commercial service history with them, they required the deposit be 5x the highest bill....so $2500 dollars. Most utilities do some form of 12 equal payments / prepay system for those with no credit, assets, or paper trail. I don't think you need a credit score or a checking account to get electricity turned on when you've got a quarter million bucks in cash and say you'd like to prepay electricity for a year..... |
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