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Link Posted: 4/21/2024 9:18:15 PM EDT
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The more things change the more things stay the same. ??
Link Posted: 4/21/2024 9:30:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/21/2024 9:56:47 PM EDT
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60? I hope to God it's a B team minus.
Link Posted: 4/21/2024 10:00:02 PM EDT
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BM gets it
Link Posted: 4/21/2024 10:15:31 PM EDT
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Probably why Johnson did what he did.

We are about to go to war in the Middle East, Ukraine, or both.
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Let's not forget Taiwan for the trifecta.

Link Posted: 4/21/2024 10:23:20 PM EDT
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Let's not forget Taiwan for the trifecta.

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Probably why Johnson did what he did.

We are about to go to war in the Middle East, Ukraine, or both.
Let's not forget Taiwan for the trifecta.



We're not going to war in the Middle East.  Maybe some airstrikes and special forces raids against the Houthis, but we're not going to commit troops to fight Iran.  Most likely not Taiwan either, unless Xi is totally insane.  Ukraine...I doubt it.  But it's the likeliest of the three.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 1:34:36 AM EDT
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I'm sure the faded one is at the head of the line with ideas on how to win.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 1:41:00 AM EDT
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OP posts a lot of Ukraine threads. I mentioned this and someone commented and showed I had posted 8. A few weeks ago I counted OP's and he had posted 16.

That person never responded, but it's kind of funny.

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Please tag me next time, @fadedsun or @cincAFUGD @cincUAFGD also works

My philosophy on this is a lot closer to Trump than Biden.

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 1:52:36 AM EDT
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Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young "Ohio"
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Thunderclap Newman - Something In The Air
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 2:30:34 AM EDT
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Rule 8.


The Rules

1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."

2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people."

3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."

8. "Keep the pressure on."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."

12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 2:32:00 AM EDT
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When this aid package fails, and the Ukes are still getting fucked hard..

The Uke bros will be demanding we move in to save them. Just remember this when it happens...

They just can't help themselves.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 2:34:31 AM EDT
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With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already
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With all the Ukrainian flag wavers in Washington I'm surprised we don't have 200k+ troops over there already


By that same token the TXNG and TXSG should have tens of thousands of volunteers and swell with the numbers of new guys.

Did that happen?

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Lol....so, when the "embassy" is hypersonic'd, we can cry wolf and attack Russia like Iran attacked Israel...its all so tiresome...

Use Skype...surely the consultants have internet ?


I don't think we are putting our Embassy near a school, mall, apartment houses, or a train station.

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When this aid package fails, and the Ukes are still getting fucked hard..

The Uke bros will be demanding we move in to save them. Just remember this when it happens...

They just can't help themselves.


So you're saying the aid package won't get pass the senate?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 2:57:27 AM EDT
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No. Of course not. I am saying when it fails to get results. When it falls short of winning the war. You will be advocating to send US troops when the Ukes are on the ropes.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 3:48:57 AM EDT
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No. Of course not. I am saying when it fails to get results. When it falls short of winning the war. You will be advocating to send US troops when the Ukes are on the ropes.
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What are the defined results of the aid package?

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:13:43 PM EDT
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That was my thought when I heard the word advisors.
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That was my thought when I heard the word advisors.
Same here.  

Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:17:19 PM EDT
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That was my thought when I heard the word advisors.
Same here.  
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Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right?  And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:19:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:28:11 PM EDT
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no .mil should be in Ukraine, not our war.

We can advise from nearby countries.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:30:30 PM EDT
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Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right?  And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right?
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That was my thought when I heard the word advisors.
Same here.  
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Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right?  And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right?

this is true, but ukraine has a lot of similarities to vietnam. one significant issue is we cant support ukraine using us weapons in significant ways to attack roosha. because nukes (i assume). like we couldnt support troops invading the north because it would make chyna come into the war. roosha has shown that it doesnt care about sending its troops into the meat grinder, they are not running out of ammo, they are producing more and ukraine is stuck in a stalemate. there is no reason for pootin to give up. what happens if it become obvious that urkaine cannot win? what happens if the advisors start getting killed? ukraine is a tar baby.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:31:14 PM EDT
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I often wonder about that myself.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:41:01 PM EDT
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No.   Actually the whole point was to KEEP IT from ever getting to this point.

WAY MORE aid earlier would have helped.  But we dragged our feet.

Delay the long range missiles.  Delay the aircraft.  Delay the ADA.  Delay the cluster munitions.  Etc

We are here now because of FAILURE to do more — sooner.



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this is true, but ukraine has a lot of similarities to vietnam. one significant issue is we cant support ukraine using us weapons in significant ways to attack roosha. because nukes (i assume). like we couldnt support troops invading the north because it would make chyna come into the war. roosha has shown that it doesnt care about sending its troops into the meat grinder, they are not running out of ammo, they are producing more and ukraine is stuck in a stalemate. there is no reason for pootin to give up. what happens if it become obvious that urkaine cannot win? what happens if the advisors start getting killed? ukraine is a tar baby.
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Hello Vietnam

That was my thought when I heard the word advisors.
Same here.  
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Y'all guys DO remember that the advisors went to Vietnam sixty years ago, right?  And that we've had advisors in dozens of other countries since, right?

this is true, but ukraine has a lot of similarities to vietnam. one significant issue is we cant support ukraine using us weapons in significant ways to attack roosha. because nukes (i assume). like we couldnt support troops invading the north because it would make chyna come into the war. roosha has shown that it doesnt care about sending its troops into the meat grinder, they are not running out of ammo, they are producing more and ukraine is stuck in a stalemate. there is no reason for pootin to give up. what happens if it become obvious that urkaine cannot win? what happens if the advisors start getting killed? ukraine is a tar baby.



Vietnam was totally different.  We could send troops to South Vietnam and fight the invaders from the north with American soldiers.  We can't fight the Russians directly because it's the Russians themselves invading.
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No.   Actually the whole point was to KEEP IT from ever getting to this point.

WAY MORE aid earlier would have helped.  But we dragged our feet.

Delay the long range missiles.  Delay the aircraft.  Delay the ADA.  Delay the cluster munitions.  Etc

We are here now because of FAILURE to do more — sooner.



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Your right.  During the Olympics we should have given them a dozen patriot batteries then a couple dozen F16 aircraft. But they didn't know how to fly them so fuck it have totally not American Advisors fly them from bases in Poland...

Biden could publicly declare a no fly zone  over them for safety.
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I often wonder about that myself.
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I often wonder about that myself.
Both Woodrow Wilson and LBJ pretended they didn't want war until after they were safely re-elected.  
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 9:45:11 PM EDT
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GOOOOOOD MOOOORRRNING UKRAINE! Doesn't have the same ring to it, and WW3's sound track is gonna suck anyway.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 10:13:21 PM EDT
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No.   Actually the whole point was to KEEP IT from ever getting to this point.

WAY MORE aid earlier would have helped.  But we dragged our feet.

Delay the long range missiles.  Delay the aircraft.  Delay the ADA.  Delay the cluster munitions.  Etc

We are here now because of FAILURE to do more — sooner.



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Had trump been elected this entire situation would not be the case.

There would have been a completely more
Effective and speedily run aid campaign
And Most Importantly 90% of the opposed people here in “conservative circles” would be pro Ukraine because it would be “our guy” in office
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 10:25:13 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, we can't send all the prisoners in the United States serving life to fight for Ukraine. After two years don't they get citizenship?
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 10:28:34 PM EDT
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wut...
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 10:30:42 PM EDT
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Send him to the front line as an advisor
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 10:36:54 PM EDT
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Give them nukes.

Explain how they will nuke the grain fields, destroy nuke plants and burn the country to the ground before they let Russia have it.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 3:17:51 PM EDT
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Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.

The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 3:19:06 PM EDT
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Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.

The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too.
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Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Afghanistan. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Iraq. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Vietnam. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Korea. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.




The reactionary shit here is sometimes unbelievable. I thought gun owners were the stoic and calm bedrock of masculinity. I guess there is some pearl clutching, catastrophizing dudes here too.
Link Posted: 4/25/2024 3:32:10 PM EDT
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Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev
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Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Ukraine. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Afghanistan. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Iraq. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Vietnam. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.
Guys chill the fuck out. We have “combat advisors” in dozens and dozens of countries. And there are already some in Korea. It doesn’t mean Vietnam.




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We didn't send combat advisors initially into Iraq or Vietnam. Those were invasions my dude. Nobody got in front of the press and said "its just military advisors, we're not escalating".

The guys in Ukraine are not engaging in combat. They are special operations but they are literally hanging around the embassy making sure people are safe and assisting with the aid flowing in. Read the article.

We literally have special operations in dozens of countries as advisors. It doesn't mean the government is setting us up for war.

OHMYGOD GREEN BERETS IN ECUADOR! They're dragging us into war!


Oh piss oh fuck Marines in Africa! It must be war!


That damn Biden! Army Rangers are getting dragged into war with..... Italy?


I am not an expert on a lot of things - but on this one I am as close to knowing the ground truth as you're going to get. I get it you guys don't like Biden. Not many do, and for damn good reason. But just, choose the right battles, man.
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We didn't send combat advisors initially into Iraq or Vietnam. Those were invasions my dude. Nobody got in front of the press and said "its just military advisors, we're not escalating".

The guys in Ukraine are not engaging in combat. They are special operations but they are literally hanging around the embassy making sure people are safe and assisting with the aid flowing in. Read the article.

We literally have special operations in dozens of countries as advisors. It doesn't mean the government is setting us up for war.

OHMYGOD GREEN BERETS IN ECUADOR! They're dragging us into war!
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Oh piss oh fuck Marines in Africa! It must be war!
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That damn Biden! Army Rangers are getting dragged into war with..... Italy?
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I am not an expert on a lot of things - but on this one I am as close to knowing the ground truth as you're going to get. I get it you guys don't like Biden. Not many do, and for damn good reason. But just, choose the right battles, man.
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Unfortunately, you're asking too much.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:09:51 AM EDT
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Isn't there a new "advisor" MOS.  They have their own color beret?
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:14:17 AM EDT
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Mike Johnson says he's seen the briefing and we muat win the current thing wars.

My question...the same briefings they were giving out over the 4 trillion war in Afghanistan...that we juat walked away from?

These people only know lies and death
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My question...the same briefings they were giving out over the 4 trillion war in Afghanistan...that we juat walked away from?

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You, umm...DO realize that Afghanistan stretched out over four presidential administrations and a shitload of different congresses?
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:31:30 AM EDT
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Yeah I can see were this is going



Time to start saving bottle caps
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Early Southeast Asia vibes coming in strong. What’s going to be the next “Fortunate Son” song for WWIII? Something by Taylor Swift?
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Just as I predicted!
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60 advisers are an army?

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Isn't there a new "advisor" MOS.  They have their own color beret?
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18Z50…..I sort of an advisor myself.

Isn't there a new "advisor" MOS.  They have their own color beret?


It’s called SFAB.

It’s not a mos. It just takes all the maneuver, combat support, support mos and makes a team that mirrors SF task org.
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60 advisers are an army?

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60 advisers are an army?



If they say there’s 60 advisors then there’s probably a 120+ “boots on the ground”.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 7:29:21 AM EDT
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Remember when we seized Japan's assets because they attacked French territory called Indo-China & soon after embargoed them of oil because we needed money due to the Great Depression? Then they got all pissy & bombed Pearl Harbor & we acted like it was a surprise so we could get support to enter WW2?


https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-says-it-may-downgrade-ties-with-us-if-its-assets-are-confiscated-2024-04-25/
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Last time the US did this, they got their asses handed to them??
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