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You need to add "graphic" to your title. For fuck's sake man, I just ate.!.
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Someone will try to sell those guns on auctionarms or gunbroker, in "very good" condition and the picture will be fuzzy.
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was trying to be funny. nothing i own would justify the cost. |
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Because Halon has been mostly banned for the children? |
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Who cares about the firearms...he survived!
Housefires can take off a hell of a lot faster than most people think. If the occupant is a packrat or stores flammables, its so much worse. |
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Rolling eyes or not, he's technically correct. I've thrown a plastic bottle of water into a raging camp fire. The plastic gets hot, but tranfers the heat to the water. The water boils and begins to evaporate. Until a good amount of water is gone, the plastic water bottle stays intact. Seen it, done it, proved it. |
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Water sucks up a lot of heat and would keep the vessel cool for some time. A heat activated valve would work. I have some antique fire extinguishers. They are basically lightbulb-thin glass containers full of carbon tetrachloride with a small hammer held back with a wax trigger. Heat melts wax,hammer fires, busts container, dousing fire with carbon tetracholoride, thus extinguishing the fire, yet releasing chlorine gas. Wonder why they dont make them anymore? |
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why aren't sprinkler system standard stuff in home and apartment buildings ?
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I live in a pretty big suburb with a great fire department. An apartment building in my complex burned down a couple weeks ago. The entire fire department (seemed like it) showed up within 5 minutes and were working on the fire immedately. The fire burned way hotter than 1400 degrees (I could feel the heat 50 yards away). The entire building burned. The same evening, the FD brought in a couple of small cranes and tore down the parts of the structure that didn't collapse. They soaked EVERYTHING to make sure that the fire wouldn't spark back up. They left a heap of water soaked rubble that has been undisturbed so far. Insurance is the only way to protect your guns. If you get a good fire going then the safe is going to get roasted and will probably wind up at the bottom of a pile of water logged rubble. |
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Exactly. I woke up in the middle of one. Got the guns and computer out before the place was gutted, tho. |
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hey ill take anything you dont want to keep I have spare stocks for the mossberg and the 10/22
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Because people wouldn't tolerate having their personal possessions and home ruined as often as industrial/warehouse systems malfunction. Accidentally hit one head and you're screwed. ETA: Not to mention the maintenance costs for these systems. I've had guys in weekly doing repairs, required upgrades and preventive maintenance. Not cheap. |
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Is there something that could be added to the interior of the safe to reflect the heat back out?
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I have a buddy who tiled his safe except the door.
Duno how well that would work in a fire. |
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Lots of problems with this one. 100 gallons of water weighs about 833lbs. Combined with the sfae and it weighs a LOT. Some houses could support that weight without some modifications. And it's not uncommon to find intact fish tanks full of dead fish when doing overhaul. The water heats up but the tank does not melt or break due to the cooling effect of the water. Of course everything does eventually burn or melt but it has to get really hot for an extended amount of time. Installing a single sprinkler head over your safe is a fairly easy project. Tie into the domestic water supply, get a head or two and viola! Homemade fire protection system. Not to code but way better than nothing. |
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Hey Duke, try it before you roll yer eyes. |
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They are in lots of new construction. Can't force someone to retrofit, cost prohibitive, but very effective. An do it yourself install is cheap but NOT legal (to code). But it can't hurt (except for the water damage potential). |
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Sounds like a kiln. Probably evenly distribute the heat for complete destruction from buttstock to muzzle! eta on second thought, because the heat is an outside source it just might help. |
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The NRA provides $1k worth of insurance free with your membership. You can also buy additional coverage (and you do NOT need to provide serial #s or anything like that). Most homeowners policies have limits on the $ of guns and accessories that they will cover. If you get a rider to cover more they MAY ask for additional info like a list of your guns. The NRA insurance is a good (and non-intrusive) way of insuring your guns. It is what I use (about $9k of additional insurance for me costs about $150/yr). |
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Where in the house the safe is located can reduce the potential of the safe's contents being destroyed. Adjacent an outside wall, away from the "core" of the house will reduce the amount of time (& heat) that the safe is exposed to.
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True but an exterior wall COULD be a source of moisture too. Gotta' keep the goldenrod fired up! |
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I thought that big glob on the end of the shotgun was a Glock! |
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I think this would work well, and like was said, it would be cheap and easy. IMO, it would be smart to put a shut off valve on it, in a place that was easy to get to, and away from the head. Any FF can tell you, plugging a sprinkler head while water is flowing, isn't easy. I would put the shutoff near the closest sink or shower, close to where you added your water line. The valve wouldn't help while you were away, but it would if you were home and the head accidently popped. It would be alot faster than going outside, and shutting off the meter. Unless you have irreplaceble firearms, insurance is still the best thing. I had mine bumped up to 10k after our home was broken into. I found out the hard way I only had $2500 worth of ins. for firearms. My front door, ended up being an expensive sum bitch to replace when it was all said and done. Those contractors aren't cheap. |
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Instead of a sprinkler, if you have an unfinished area place the safe under a soldered joint in the water line. When the solder melts... sprinkler. I have seen it a couple of times. Not necessarily practicle.
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So you installed a sprinkler over your safe, but then turn around and store blackpowder and smokeless for the explicit purpose of turning it into a bomb for anyone trying to break into the safe? You don't think that could present a problem during a fire? Also, might want to check into your local laws concerning mantraps..... |
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Fixed it for ya! |
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Looks like some sanding and some oil you could get those into enough shape to make them work (albeit HIGHLY dangerous to shoot). Give the stocks a quick clean up , paint the metal with a coat of rustoleum and wait for the next gun buyback and get $50-$100+ a piece for them. (That would be based on the last DC guy buyback)
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<---heads out back to see if he still has that warped ATV spray tank for an experiment........
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A job for Old Painless ...... |
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*sigh* I can't find the tank. Maybe I'll set a fire under a few bottles of water and see what happens..... |
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Leave the tops off so the water can boil and escape. An exploding water bottle will ruin the experiment. |
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The NRA has an excellent insurance program. Not very expensive either. IBTNRAB - In before the NRA bashers |
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Not if it puts the fire out....... I'll try it both ways. |
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Then leave the top on. If you leave the top off, the water will absorb the heat and boil off. The jug won't melt/burn until it's nearly empty. |
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Planning on sending them in to the manufacturers to see if they'll honor warrantee repairs?
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This is why I store all of my guns in a sealed steel 55-gallon drum at the bottom of my pool.
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I think placement is a big part of it. My safe sits against a brick outer wall, on a concrete floor, with sheetrock on the other three walls. It would most likely be the last area in my house to actually burn, and would not be nearly the hottest area in a major fire. Also, a 30 minute safe is pretty marginal. I would not go with anything under 45 minutes, preferably a 1 hour rated safe.
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"General Services
Fire Sprinkler System Meet Your Personal Firefighter The City of Scottsdale is widely recognized as a leader in built-in automatic sprinkler systems. In 1985, the City passed an ordinance requiring every commercial and multi-family building to be outfitted with a complete fire sprinkler system. The ordinance also requires that single-family residences, built after Jan. 1, 1986, be fully outfitted with an approved fire sprinkler system. Sprinkler systems are also required in major remodeling projects. These systems have been credited with saving a number of lives locally and across the nation." more: http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/safety/Fire/residentialsprinkler.asp |
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Looks like some good future projects their. Those will be fun to at least mess aroun with and see what happens. You really can't mess them up any more.
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I don't know about the rest of you all, but I will take a wet gun over a well toasted gun!
+1 the horror |
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I have my firearms insured through Nationwide at replacement value for $1.20 per $100. It covers all the of optics and accessories.
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now... this is an interesting question.... i build homes. the are lots of folks out there trying to get states to inact all kinds of 'for-the-children' home building codes. and whole house sprinkler systems just barely got defeated recenty... now do you want that system with its heads all over your house? it goes off by mistake you're gonna have some expensive damage, not to mention the cost it adds to the home itself.. they also wanted a ladder attached to every window over 1 story so the children could climb down from any room at any time if there was a fire... |
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Just from where I'm sitting I can see three sprinkler heads in my house. I live on base and it's mandatory. There hasn't been a problem with the sprinklers in years, from my understanding. Considering a family moves into one of these units on average every 3 years and they've been here for 12 years that's pretty damn good. As the Damage Control Assistant on a DDG, I had the same set up in the seven berthings. My XO wouldn't let me run the system charged, as it was designed- the new XO did. We had 300 people living in those 7 berthings at any given time and we had no "bulb" breakages. Now if you're the type who is constantly breaking overhead fixtures then they're not for you. |
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