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Posted: 12/19/2009 6:07:33 PM EDT
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FULL AUTO ACR action at the very last portion of the clip by the NST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rluxRbnHDgI |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2009 12:39:39 AM EDT
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Hey Guys,
Mid system was most likely chosen due to excessive gas while a can was onboard with carbine gas system. Both Ross and I fired many rounds through the ACR's at the silencer shoot and expressed concern about the gas problem. Since both 100 and 101 were the first to be released i would guess that the mid system was a partial solution to the problem. Exposed as it is, the moe style handguard covers the gas block when installed. Remember, the rails for the market rifles are still up in the air at this time. Im sure Remington did the mid system to prevent any negative feedback as both guns were supplied with a can and were sure to be fired suppressed. I fired over 500 rounds at the shoot and can tell you that the gun fires as per requirements. While it is has gas problems the mid system should solve that problem. However, a 16" carbine M16 still gasses more that the acr while in full auto. In my opinion anyway. Also, the ACR's at the shoot were a one select gas system while the 100 and 101 guns have a suppressed and non suppressed selector. Would love to tell you how it shoots, but im waiting to decide on the guns future still. |
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Posted: 12/21/2009 9:09:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bgu301:
How well will this platform suppress as it is piston driven? I shot a full auto suppressed ACR at the Ft Benning 3 Gun Challenge. It was way quiet, actually amazingly so, compared to my 14.5" AR. I dont know if it was the AAC can or the piston system? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 8:22:27 AM EDT
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Can I play too?
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Posted: 12/22/2009 2:28:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlackDog714]
[#5]
Sure, just don't take it too personally when we hate you 
Was the Massoud a pleasure to shoot? How was the recoil as compared to an AR-10 or FAL? |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2009 10:04:47 PM EDT
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MAN that's sharp! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2009 10:43:32 PM EDT
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Hey Drake do we get a discount if we have bought Pmags?
 jk Will it come in O.D.or foliage?
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/23/2009 10:58:46 PM EDT
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Why no flip up front sight?
On all the newer pictures I see it's not on the ACR like it was at first. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2009 10:47:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cold:
FULL AUTO ACR action at the very last portion of the clip by the NST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rluxRbnHDgI looked like a SCAR to me and not ACR. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2009 12:24:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayne1one:
Originally Posted By Cold:
FULL AUTO ACR action at the very last portion of the clip by the NST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rluxRbnHDgI looked like a SCAR to me and not ACR. If you pause it right you can see its an ACR with the gen 4 rail, the carging handle is the ACR's, and theres no ugly front sight on the gas block. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2009 5:31:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Daekwan:
God I cannot wait for this.. what do you guys think pricing will look like on this rifle the first month it is available to the public?? Im guessing the first ones to hit will be about $2500.. then a month later like $2000 even.. Finally about 3 months or so later..around $1500. Which is when I'll actually be able to afford it! I couldn't agree more, I can't think of anything more heartbreaking than if bushmaster was to price this rifle north of $2000. Just because FN did it with the SCAR doesn't mean everybody else has to follow like lap dogs. Remember, FN is the company that basically takes a $650 browning BAR semi auto hunting rifle, paints it black, adds a pistol grip stock, and calls it a $1600 tactical .308 sniper rifle. Ridiculous |
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Posted: 12/25/2009 8:22:29 PM EDT
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Caveat emptor.
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Posted: 12/26/2009 5:34:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By joe-bananas:
Caveat emptor. What are you talking about? Do you have some inside info that should cause us to heed your warning? |
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Posted: 12/26/2009 4:05:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joe-bananas]
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Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
Originally Posted By joe-bananas:
Caveat emptor. What are you talking about? Do you have some inside info that should cause us to heed your warning? Regarding the pricing and the practice that some retailers have of gouging at the introduction of a new, highly-anticipated rifle. Many of us have seen this before. I know nothing about pricing from Bushmaster or Remington. Simmer, Pot Roast. |
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Posted: 12/26/2009 7:56:21 PM EDT
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i sure hope they don't go that route, it hasn't proven to be a very successful marketing approach as of late, example the same LWRC REPR's that have been on gunbroker for weeks now at crazy prices not selling. While i do think this rifle is cool and ill buy one (if its reasonably priced) i personally do not consider this rifle "ground breaking". After reading about it and handling one at SHOT this rifle does absolutely nothing my Robinson XCR cant do. Just MHO.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2009 10:11:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcsoeod:
it hasn't proven to be a very successful marketing approach as of late Since when does "successful marketing approach" have anything to do with a reseller? I'd be amazed if you didn't see these commanding a 50% premium from shops who are the first to receive them. |
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Posted: 12/28/2009 12:17:45 PM EDT
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that comment was pretty much aimed at not just bushmaster but also the resellers, anything you do to help sell a product is "marketing" even if your just one person
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2009 1:31:13 AM EDT
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Bump
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2010 2:06:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: goodwi77]
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2010 3:08:11 PM EDT
[#20]
Awesome video! Thanks for the link. Cant wait to find out the price & release info, hopefully from SHOT!!
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Posted: 1/3/2010 3:25:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Cool. Good find.
How may gas settings are there now? |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2010 5:28:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JONNYROCKO]
[#22]
Says not authorized
edit: don't know what the problem was but it worked just fine now! Great find! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2010 10:19:23 AM EDT
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this looks like a good sign...ACR add!!
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Posted: 1/11/2010 3:28:40 PM EDT
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It's good to see ads with the original handguards again.
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Posted: 1/11/2010 4:47:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
It's good to see ads with the original handguards again. BUT they got rid of the integrated Flip front sight.   
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2010 4:36:31 PM EDT
[#26]
Who is going to be selling the ACR, Remington or Bushmaster?
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2010 5:36:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4-Daddy:
Who is going to be selling the ACR, Remington or Bushmaster? Bushmaster for us, RPD for the military. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2010 6:52:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
It's good to see ads with the original handguards again. BUT they got rid of the integrated Flip front sight. TBH I'm happy about that. |
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Posted: 1/13/2010 2:48:43 PM EDT
[#29]
What is the length of the rifle with a 16" barrel when the stock is folded?
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Posted: 1/14/2010 2:30:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plissken]
[#30]
I hope there's some option where I can get the folding/telestock with the original handguards. Like this:
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Posted: 1/14/2010 2:42:31 PM EDT
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Based on the amount of horse trading and "kit-bashing" that is going to happen around the launch configs of the ACR, we're going to need an ACR-specific subforum on the EE...
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Posted: 1/14/2010 2:55:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2010 6:54:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plissken: I hope there's some option where I can get the folding/telestock with the original handguards. Like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Magpul_masada_16fde.jpg Me too... I wonder if I am going to have to wait for Remington to release theirs to get a factory SBR? |
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Posted: 1/14/2010 7:02:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gunnut003]
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Originally Posted By utahvarminter:
Originally Posted By gunnut003:
Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
It's good to see ads with the original handguards again. BUT they got rid of the integrated Flip front sight. TBH I'm happy about that. If you are refering to the Front sight, Why? It was low profile, and push button deployable. What else do you need? If the hangguards, I aggree. |
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Posted: 1/17/2010 12:44:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gunnut003]
[#35]
Oops. See above.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2010 1:33:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plissken:
I hope there's some option where I can get the folding/telestock with the original handguards. Like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Magpul_masada_16fde.jpg I want this standard, original version too, I have no need to quad rail everywhere, Bushmaster/Remington/Magpul (whoever) needs to focus on releasing this, there will be about 50+ companies that will release aftermarket parts for the ACR on the same day that it is released, because as we all know there is no single configuration that can satisfy everyone from the real men in the sandbox to the airsofters. And honestly the first smooth FF handguard they showed (like the one above) is just plain sexy. I am betting that the Bushmaster countdown is just another countdown to more release information, I am calling shenanigans on the actual release, call me a downer, but after the past few years, I have actually given up hope, that is not the same as saying that I dont want one, I want one just as much as the next guy/gal. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2010 11:15:21 AM EDT
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So according to the email I just got from Bushmaster, March of 2010 is when they'll hit the streets?
It's also showing the different length barrels (10, 14.5, 16, 18) all having car-length gas systems, so maybe there's hope for putting on whatever AR barrel you want (as long as it's car length gas?). |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2010 1:31:35 PM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2010 11:22:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2010 1:24:04 AM EDT
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Sweet, only $2700!
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Posted: 1/19/2010 2:17:01 AM EDT
[#41]
Originally Posted By therex:
So according to the email I just got from Bushmaster, March of 2010 is when they'll hit the streets? It's also showing the different length barrels (10, 14.5, 16, 18) all having car-length gas systems, so maybe there's hope for putting on whatever AR barrel you want (as long as it's car length gas?). march 1st for LE. Civilian sales May 1st. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2010 10:53:21 PM EDT
[#42]
No pics of the ACR's people bought?
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KS, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2010 11:01:07 PM EDT
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the $2700 msrp just sunk my battleship
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Posted: 2/18/2010 12:15:46 AM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By Kidonacid:
No pics of the ACR's people bought? Read the post above yours. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2010 2:32:07 AM EDT
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Stick, I'd love to hear your opinion on this ACR debacle. Since you do photography for Magpul, is their any kind of inside info that you could be obliged to share?
If not, your opinion alone would still be much appreciated. Jared |
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Posted: 2/18/2010 9:38:54 AM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By Sin526:
Stick, I'd love to hear your opinion on this ACR debacle. Since you do photography for Magpul, is their any kind of inside info that you could be obliged to share? If not, your opinion alone would still be much appreciated. Jared I respectfully ask that we keep this thread for photos. There are plenty of other threads to discuss the price. |
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Posted: 4/5/2010 5:17:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2010 9:42:20 PM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By imortal:
Originally Posted By therex:
So according to the email I just got from Bushmaster, March of 2010 is when they'll hit the streets? It's also showing the different length barrels (10, 14.5, 16, 18) all having car-length gas systems, so maybe there's hope for putting on whatever AR barrel you want (as long as it's car length gas?). march 1st for LE. Civilian sales May 1st. I handled one today here in Alabama at Hoover Tactical Firearms. So if you're in the Birmingham area ease on over and they will let you fondle it. Pretty decent rifle. I wasn't overly impressed, but I will hold off all judgment until someone buys one and lets me run some rounds through it. Cause $2700 is a bit out of my price range.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2010 7:47:28 PM EDT
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Very unhappy with what bushmaster did with this weapon. 2,600 for the basic model is crazy. Good luck selling those, I wont stock any. And I won't stock the advanced model either. They better re-think the price, and set it closer to Magpul's figures.
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Posted: 5/12/2010 8:40:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tacso:
Very unhappy with what bushmaster did with this weapon. 2,600 for the basic model is crazy. Good luck selling those, I wont stock any. And I won't stock the advanced model either. They better re-think the price, and set it closer to Magpul's figures. You do realize that the average price is around 2100 right? 2600 is the MSRP, they are selling for just over dealer price now... |
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