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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 6:29:06 PM EDT
Where did all the color pmags go? FDE, OD etc?
All i see in the wild are black ones now... maybe sand if im lucky? Isnt FDE cool anymore?! |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 7:17:47 PM EDT
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They still have the coyote tan, I'm pretty sure. They no longer make the sand color, at least for now.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 8:49:29 PM EDT
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Yep, as said, no sand. Others should be available periodically.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2022 4:46:40 PM EDT
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Is there a reason why they arent always available, like the other colors of stuff?
Just curious more than anything. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 4:52:21 PM EDT
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I really wish they would make coyote furniture.
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Posted: 9/28/2022 4:58:40 PM EDT
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Locally I only see black and brown ones.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 4:29:43 PM EDT
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My guess is investments, waiting on prices to rise then sell off! They are discontinued some that makes them "rare"!
Straight 20's are up, Gen1 PMAG's are as well! |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 4:31:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: I really wish they would make coyote furniture. Their claim is the color doesn't match up on the individual pieces. I don't know the injection process. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 4:32:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: Is there a reason why they arent always available, like the other colors of stuff? Just curious more than anything. Discontinued ODG / FDE / FOL |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 4:47:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SouthernSlammed: Discontinued ODG / FDE / FOL Which I find interesting because you can buy furniture in ODG and FDE on their site. Which leads me to wonder why no mags. Hoping someone will chime in from MP... |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: Which I find interesting because you can buy furniture in ODG and FDE on their site. Which leads me to wonder why no mags. Hoping someone will chime in from MP... Polymer material has changed over time. ODG and FOL have had reputation of cracking. I believe that why military went with primarily black and some FDE. They say Sand was a strong polymer, but they got a formula with MCT that military now choose it. There has always been issues with colors, why we never got more than the original 4. Business has been to provide the best for military/government use and Black / MCT top it. Furniture is a bit different, I imagine due to thicknesses. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mediumdaddy: Is there a reason why they arent always available, like the other colors of stuff? Just curious more than anything. .mil buys all the Coyote tan ones. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 12:30:58 PM EDT
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Some of the more conventional colorants can introduce strength issues that are extremely difficult to QA/QC. 9999 of 10000 could be quite good, and that one could be more iffy in a feed lip or full weapon drop, especially cold. At the end of the day, we didn't feel comfortable shipping something that could have a flaw in a product that someone's life might depend on. We went to all black for a while for that reason. Sand and MCT use a new colorant technology that doesn't have the same issues, and in fact, can be even stronger than black in some metrics. The USMC, US Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force buy both black and MCT, with a decent percentage being MCT.
Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. The new colorant technology is significantly more difficult to manage than conventional colorants to get uniform appearance, but the performance is worth it. No promises, but we are working on some additional offerings, with ODG being the most likely. Lots of folks have asked about why we switched from FDE to MCT in shade, and the answer there is the US military's definition of a "not black" color, which has to fit between a certain range of shades of coyote tan--and our FDE was outside that range...thus "Medium Coyote Tan", as it falls in the middle of the acceptable range. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 6:26:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: Some of the more conventional colorants can introduce strength issues that are extremely difficult to QA/QC. 9999 of 10000 could be quite good, and that one could be more iffy in a feed lip or full weapon drop, especially cold. At the end of the day, we didn't feel comfortable shipping something that could have a flaw in a product that someone's life might depend on. We went to all black for a while for that reason. Sand and MCT use a new colorant technology that doesn't have the same issues, and in fact, can be even stronger than black in some metrics. The USMC, US Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force buy both black and MCT, with a decent percentage being MCT. Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. The new colorant technology is significantly more difficult to manage than conventional colorants to get uniform appearance, but the performance is worth it. No promises, but we are working on some additional offerings, with ODG being the most likely. Lots of folks have asked about why we switched from FDE to MCT in shade, and the answer there is the US military's definition of a "not black" color, which has to fit between a certain range of shades of coyote tan--and our FDE was outside that range...thus "Medium Coyote Tan", as it falls in the middle of the acceptable range. Well, there ya have it! Great work BTW! |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 1:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: The new colorant technology is significantly more difficult to manage than conventional colorants to get uniform appearance, but the performance is worth it. No promises, but we are working on some additional offerings, with ODG being the most likely. Awesome news. Don't stop working on ODG until you've solved it 
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Posted: 10/5/2022 2:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. Are you saying there are current production sand mags, or future production sand mags? |
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USA
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Posted: 10/9/2022 4:23:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PepePewPew: Are you saying there are current production sand mags, or future production sand mags? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PepePewPew: Originally Posted By SPQR-476: Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. Are you saying there are current production sand mags, or future production sand mags? This, sand mags alleviates the need to make any other colors besides mct and black. It is another sku but some limited runs of sand mags again would be great. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/9/2022 4:27:29 PM EDT
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foliage pmags are best pmags
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Posted: 10/10/2022 11:08:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PepePewPew: Are you saying there are current production sand mags, or future production sand mags? You may see sand magazines again. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/10/2022 5:51:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: Some of the more conventional colorants can introduce strength issues that are extremely difficult to QA/QC. 9999 of 10000 could be quite good, and that one could be more iffy in a feed lip or full weapon drop, especially cold. At the end of the day, we didn't feel comfortable shipping something that could have a flaw in a product that someone's life might depend on. We went to all black for a while for that reason. Sand and MCT use a new colorant technology that doesn't have the same issues, and in fact, can be even stronger than black in some metrics. The USMC, US Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force buy both black and MCT, with a decent percentage being MCT. Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. The new colorant technology is significantly more difficult to manage than conventional colorants to get uniform appearance, but the performance is worth it. No promises, but we are working on some additional offerings, with ODG being the most likely. Lots of folks have asked about why we switched from FDE to MCT in shade, and the answer there is the US military's definition of a "not black" color, which has to fit between a certain range of shades of coyote tan--and our FDE was outside that range...thus "Medium Coyote Tan", as it falls in the middle of the acceptable range. I really appreciate the response. I had assumed and wondered if it was a strength issue. I have some FDE pmags still in the wrapper... which i guess ill keep in the wrapper forever now  I actually just opened one recently for a class and didnt end up using it... wish i wouldnt have opened it now. lol
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/10/2022 5:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LamentConfig: foliage pmags are best pmags I never got any of those ones...wish i would have now. |
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Posted: 12/15/2022 2:07:11 AM EDT
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My body is ready.
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Posted: 12/15/2022 2:13:58 AM EDT
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When Sand D60?
Id accept ODG D60 too 
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Posted: 12/15/2022 11:02:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: My body is ready. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20200222_135929-1286822.jpg  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2022 11:16:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: Some of the more conventional colorants can introduce strength issues that are extremely difficult to QA/QC. 9999 of 10000 could be quite good, and that one could be more iffy in a feed lip or full weapon drop, especially cold. At the end of the day, we didn't feel comfortable shipping something that could have a flaw in a product that someone's life might depend on. We went to all black for a while for that reason. Sand and MCT use a new colorant technology that doesn't have the same issues, and in fact, can be even stronger than black in some metrics. The USMC, US Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force buy both black and MCT, with a decent percentage being MCT. Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. The new colorant technology is significantly more difficult to manage than conventional colorants to get uniform appearance, but the performance is worth it. No promises, but we are working on some additional offerings, with ODG being the most likely. Lots of folks have asked about why we switched from FDE to MCT in shade, and the answer there is the US military's definition of a "not black" color, which has to fit between a certain range of shades of coyote tan--and our FDE was outside that range...thus "Medium Coyote Tan", as it falls in the middle of the acceptable range. |
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Posted: 12/15/2022 11:45:27 AM EDT
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SAND MAGS NOW
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Posted: 12/15/2022 12:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: You may see sand magazines again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Are you saying there are current production sand mags, or future production sand mags? You may see sand magazines again. We need a more can do attitude, thaaaanks. 
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Posted: 12/15/2022 1:36:54 PM EDT
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ODG D60 please!
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Posted: 6/22/2023 8:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: Some of the more conventional colorants can introduce strength issues that are extremely difficult to QA/QC. 9999 of 10000 could be quite good, and that one could be more iffy in a feed lip or full weapon drop, especially cold. At the end of the day, we didn't feel comfortable shipping something that could have a flaw in a product that someone's life might depend on. We went to all black for a while for that reason. Sand and MCT use a new colorant technology that doesn't have the same issues, and in fact, can be even stronger than black in some metrics. The USMC, US Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force buy both black and MCT, with a decent percentage being MCT. Current MCT and Black magazines, as well as the sand, all perform well past the rough handling/drop test requirements for TOP03-02-045 from -60F to +180F. The new colorant technology is significantly more difficult to manage than conventional colorants to get uniform appearance, but the performance is worth it. No promises, but we are working on some additional offerings, with ODG being the most likely. Lots of folks have asked about why we switched from FDE to MCT in shade, and the answer there is the US military's definition of a "not black" color, which has to fit between a certain range of shades of coyote tan--and our FDE was outside that range...thus "Medium Coyote Tan", as it falls in the middle of the acceptable range. I hope someone there is thinking about colorants for other Magpul hard polymer products besides magazines. DAKA Rifle Cases being #1 on my list. Pretty much all of your sunglasses would be a close second. You guys used to lead the way on this, pretty much across the entire polymer lines. Now, it's like the early days of Henry Ford...you can have any color you want, as long as it's black. Pure black anything is like a giant heat sink in full sun. Even worse if you happen to live/work/play in an area of the U.S. that considered desert by most, or open prairie at best. So the thought of shelling out hundreds of dollars so I can shove my gear in the equivalent of a solar oven gives me pause. So, pretty please, lets see some rifle cases in MCT and Sand (or some other "Not Black" neutral color) And for Chrissake, you've got more of a selection of tortoise shell in sunglasses than you do FDE.  Tortoise shell??? C'mon Magpul, I'm blasting coyotes and prairie dogs on the plains, not sipping soy lattes in Boulder! I think the folks on the design team need to spend a little less time in Austin and a little more in Cheyenne. |
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Posted: 6/26/2023 5:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Repairman_Jack: I hope someone there is thinking about colorants for other Magpul hard polymer products besides magazines. DAKA Rifle Cases being #1 on my list. Pretty much all of your sunglasses would be a close second. You guys used to lead the way on this, pretty much across the entire polymer lines. Now, it's like the early days of Henry Ford...you can have any color you want, as long as it's black. Pure black anything is like a giant heat sink in full sun. Even worse if you happen to live/work/play in an area of the U.S. that considered desert by most, or open prairie at best. So the thought of shelling out hundreds of dollars so I can shove my gear in the equivalent of a solar oven gives me pause. So, pretty please, lets see some rifle cases in MCT and Sand (or some other "Not Black" neutral color) And for Chrissake, you've got more of a selection of tortoise shell in sunglasses than you do FDE. Tortoise shell??? C'mon Magpul, I'm blasting coyotes and prairie dogs on the plains, not sipping soy lattes in Boulder! I think the folks on the design team need to spend a little less time in Austin and a little more in Cheyenne. Magpul died when Rich left. He would have cleaned house knowing MCT is the best selling magazine and they don’t even make furniture in that color. They still have some good engineers but whoever their bean counter is should be washing toilets at a Burger King. As for their sunglasses, unless something has changed they’re Chinese, and they’re likely at the mercy of existing products made by their supplier that they can rebrand. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2024 9:11:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPQR-476: You may see sand magazines again. When can we see SAND magazines again? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2024 9:17:27 AM EDT
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in for the od green reissue
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Posted: 1/5/2024 12:27:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By durtychemist: When can we see SAND magazines again? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By durtychemist: Originally Posted By SPQR-476: You may see sand magazines again. When can we see SAND magazines again? Bumping an old thread and getting my hopes up for sand 
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Posted: 1/5/2024 12:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: Bumping an old thread and getting my hopes up for sand Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: Originally Posted By durtychemist: Originally Posted By SPQR-476: You may see sand magazines again. When can we see SAND magazines again? Bumping an old thread and getting my hopes up for sand SAND MAGS NOW |
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