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Posted: 3/6/2017 5:12:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fr8dog:
FDE Magpul PRS Gen 3 inbound. Brownells had them marked down and free shipping on orders over $99. 
Due to free shipping not being FedEx an updated range report for the .260 with the PRS installed will probably be delayed until the weekend after next. 
Plus I have to take a checkride on Friday and will not get home until o dark 30 Saturday morning.  Darn, I was trying to order one of the Gen 3's and it showed out of stock. Double darn that you can't get to the range sooner! Page 4 ownage.
ETA - Spelling, not ownage! |
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Posted: 3/7/2017 8:12:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#2]
Okay, morning bump as I sit at DCA before flying off to Atlanta to deal with some folks who are outside of company policies. I might be able to get to the range tomorrow before I have to fly to Japan for a week's worth of site visits, but I hope some of you can post up your range reports, impressions, etc.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2017 11:05:25 AM EDT
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Be advised that the LaRue 7.62/.260 carbine buffer tube is 1/2 longer than standard (if there is a standard for large frame ARs). The Gen 3 PRS will require a rifle length buffer tube for install on the .260.
So, I called the mother ship and they are sending a rifle buffer tube and a spacer. That way the buffer and spring that came with the rifle can be used. What to do with the spare carbine buffer tube?  sounds like a good excuse to build another rifle.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 2:07:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jeep450]
[#4]
Waiting on my Fedex man to get my ammo from him
Got it! What specs do you look up and use for ballistics calculations?  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:43:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#5]
The back of the box has ballistic information, which is a start.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2017 8:21:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WVgunner]
[#6]
260 is home
Will get it out to the range as soon as my schedule allows... Got a few boxes of factory stuff and a few dozen rounds of my own baseline loads to send downrange to get an idea of what she likes to eat
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Posted: 3/7/2017 9:30:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVgunner:
260 is home
Will get it out to the range as soon as my schedule allows... Got a few boxes of factory stuff and a few dozen rounds of my own baseline loads to send downrange to get an idea of what she likes to eat
\ Pics aren't loading.........
ETA - They are now! |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 5:33:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#8]
Some pictures of virgin and once fired .260 brass. I leave for Japan tomorrow so you guys will have to pick up the thread while I'm gone!
Lapua virgin .260 brass: 
Prime .260 once fired brass from my tOBR: 
FGMM .260 once fired brass from my tOBR: 
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Posted: 3/9/2017 7:10:37 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Some pictures of virgin and once fired .260 brass. I leave for Japan tomorrow so you guys will have to pick up the thread while I'm gone! Lapua virgin .260 brass: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0224-161665.jpg Prime .260 once fired brass from my tOBR: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0237-161666.jpg FGGM .260 once fired brass from my tOBR: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0239-161696.jpg Well there goes that theory. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 7:15:18 AM EDT
[#10]
Measure the shoulder.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 8:09:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bill3508:
Measure the shoulder. Sure, in 7 days when I get back.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 9:45:02 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Sure, in 7 days when I get back. Have a good trip. 
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Posted: 3/9/2017 10:26:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sea2summit:
Well there goes that theory. XTRAN brother, XTRAN. ETA - No more trying to do this on my phone. XTRAXN brother, XRTRAXN.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 11:35:34 AM EDT
[#14]
XTRAXN
and FGMM [/Grahmer Notsee]
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Posted: 3/9/2017 11:36:47 AM EDT
[#15]
Swag box arrived yesterday with some 130 gr. Prime goodness.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 4:56:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By soonerman:
Swag box arrived yesterday with some 130 gr. Prime goodness. Lucky dawg! |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 5:45:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By soonerman:
Swag box arrived yesterday with some 130 gr. Prime goodness. Shoot it! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 8:46:05 PM EDT
[#18]
Received my .260 Predatobr from the ffl last night. What's the going sale price on a Factory only used 762 TranQuilo brake adapter?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 9:35:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Friedcheese:
Received my .260 Predatobr from the ffl last night. What's the going sale price on a Factory only used 762 TranQuilo brake adapter? i was wondering the same thing. my .260 came in today also and i am going to be removing the brake as i have a threaded suppressor i am going to use and have no need for the Tranquil adapter. |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 10:02:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#20]
At 35,000 feet flying over the Bering Straits.
A new one sells for $99 and one bought with the TQ is $50. I guess it would be somewhere in between.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2017 12:43:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
At 35,000 feet flying over the Bearing Straits. A new one sells for $99 and one bought with the TQ is $50. I guess it would be somewhere in between.Thanks Defender3! I guess a deal would be $50 if someone needs another one for a second or third rifle. Now to figure out how to use EE.... |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 12:29:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dHUTCH]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Friedcheese:
Thanks Defender3! I guess a deal would be $50 if someone needs another one for a second or third rifle. Now to figure out how to use EE.... IM inbound. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:30:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#23]
HH6 relayed my case of Prime arrived! She wasn't too happy about more ammo, but I'm sure she'll get over it.
Greetings from Japan! Pretty standard Japanese room: 
However, I was upgraded and have a traditional Japanese sitting area and a view of the lake! 
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:37:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
HH6 relayed my case of Prime arrived! She wasn't too happy about more ammo, but I'm sure she'll get over it. Greetings from Japan! Pretty standard Japanese room: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP3-163002.jpg However, I was upgraded and have a traditional Japanese sitting area and a view of the lake! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP1-163003.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP2-163004.jpg Not a half bad view |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:42:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout:
Not a half bad view I luv Japanese culture, very customer service oriented. Once they found out I was the boss, they hooked me up. Pics outside are dicey, but I took them at 6am (Saturday), I'm sure it will look nicer once the sun comes up. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:47:06 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I luv Japanese culture, very customer service oriented. Once they found out I was the boss, they hooked me up. Pics outside are dicey, but I took them at 6am (Saturday), I'm sure it will look nicer once the sun comes up. Boss man gets best hookers |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 8:19:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
HH6 relayed my case of Prime arrived! She wasn't too happy about more ammo, but I'm sure she'll get over it. Greetings from Japan! Pretty standard Japanese room: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP3-163002.jpg However, I was upgraded and have a traditional Japanese sitting area and a view of the lake! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP1-163003.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP2-163004.jpg Nice view!! But where are the chairs and table? I see a foot stool, and a couple cushions.
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Posted: 3/10/2017 8:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout:
Boss man gets best hookers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I luv Japanese culture, very customer service oriented. Once they found out I was the boss, they hooked me up. Pics outside are dicey, but I took them at 6am (Saturday), I'm sure it will look nicer once the sun comes up. Boss man gets best hookers And blow. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 9:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mi650:
Nice view!! But where are the chairs and table? I see a foot stool, and a couple cushions. Stuff is pretty hard on your back! |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 3:20:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#30]
Okay, it's 4:20am on Sunday here in Japan. It was a long day yesterday and despite being beat, you still wake up at 3am.
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For those following this thread, PRIME Ammo has extended their sale. Buy a case plus any box of their ammo (or more) and you can get free shipping by using promo code CASE+1, the sale is,good through March 13. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 1:27:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Apparently the Prime code doesn't work in all browsers. I used it in IE with no issues. If needed, change browsers or give them a call to order and they will honor the code.
Not everyone in Japan likes us.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 2:12:52 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Okay, it's 4:20am on Sunday here in Japan. It was a long day yesterday and despite being beat, you still wake up at 3am. .
For those following this thread, PRIME Ammo has extended their sale. Buy a case plus any box of their ammo (or more) and you can get free shipping by using promo code CASE+1, the sale is,good through March 13. Wish I had a budget for some PRIME Ammo, was at the range doing a max load development, and trying some Hornady 130 gr ELD. I couldn't get consistent shots with the ELD. It was all over the place. Not worth taking pictures of. Getting an Standard deviation of 19-25 per 10 shots. Thankfully, i was able to transfer over my scope from my 762 PredatOBR, and get on paper. overall just 1 mil adjustment. Rifle ran smoothly without any hiccups. As for my hand loads. I was getting wonderful results at the top of the max load, 41.3 grains of H4350, velocity of 2700 ft/s with no signs of over pressure. Sorry, no pictures, but if anyone wants extra details on anything, let me know |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 3:19:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shutterlife:
Wish I had a budget for some PRIME Ammo, was at the range doing a max load development, and trying some Hornady 130 gr ELD. I couldn't get consistent shots with the ELD. It was all over the place. Not worth taking pictures of. Getting an Standard deviation of 19-25 per 10 shots. Thankfully, i was able to transfer over my scope from my 762 PredatOBR, and get on paper. overall just 1 mil adjustment. Rifle ran smoothly without any hiccups. As for my hand loads. I was getting wonderful results at the top of the max load, 41.3 grains of H4350, velocity of 2700 ft/s with no signs of over pressure. Sorry, no pictures, but if anyone wants extra details on anything, let me know Thanks for the report! What bullets, primers and brass were you using with the H4350? Did you measure OAL of the ELD's vs your hand loads to see if there could be any jump issues? No daylight sayings time in Japan.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 3:42:04 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Apparently the Prime code doesn't work in all browsers. I used it in IE with no issues. If needed, change browsers or give them a call to order and they will honor the code. Not everyone in Japan likes us.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Japan4-163988.jpg maybe they need a little history lesson. the only reason our troops are there is because they lost WWII after they attacked us first and unprovoked! it's still a hard lesson for them to learn apparently. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 4:22:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tacticalmedic450:
maybe they need a little history lesson. the only reason our troops are there is because they lost WWII after they attacked us first and unprovoked! it's still a hard lesson for them to learn apparently. By far the Japanese people are kind and friendly. A few might still be upset we nuked a couple of their cities, but it hardly ever comes up. The sign is probably from the communist opposition party, a fringe group by any standard. A couple of them come out with their lawn chairs and signs and protest every once and awhile, but they did spend their donations to put up a sign reminding people they're trying to be relevant. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 6:46:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks for the report! What bullets, primers and brass were you using with the H4350? Did you measure OAL of the ELD's vs your hand loads to see if there could be any jump issues? No daylight sayings time in Japan. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Shutterlife:
Wish I had a budget for some PRIME Ammo, was at the range doing a max load development, and trying some Hornady 130 gr ELD. I couldn't get consistent shots with the ELD. It was all over the place. Not worth taking pictures of. Getting an Standard deviation of 19-25 per 10 shots. Thankfully, i was able to transfer over my scope from my 762 PredatOBR, and get on paper. overall just 1 mil adjustment. Rifle ran smoothly without any hiccups. As for my hand loads. I was getting wonderful results at the top of the max load, 41.3 grains of H4350, velocity of 2700 ft/s with no signs of over pressure. Sorry, no pictures, but if anyone wants extra details on anything, let me know Thanks for the report! What bullets, primers and brass were you using with the H4350? Did you measure OAL of the ELD's vs your hand loads to see if there could be any jump issues? No daylight sayings time in Japan. My hand loads were: New Lapua brass Berger 6.5mm 130 grain AR Hyrbid CCI Large Rifle Primer BR-2 Hodgdon H4350 OAL 2.800" The Hornady 130 grain ELD OAL measured at 2.792" |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:16:26 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shutterlife:
My hand loads were: New Lapua brass Berger 6.5mm 130 grain AR Hyrbid CCI Large Rifle Primer BR-2 Hodgdon H4350 OAL 2.800" The Hornady 130 grain ELD OAL measured at 2.792" Do you think the ELDs had too much jump? |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 10:04:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Very pleased with my 260. I was able to get it zeroed at 200 and make repeatable hits out to 1400 yards this weekend. I was using factory Hornady 130 match. Bushnell scope with G3 reticle, Harris bipod and accuracy first level.
I will be working on some hand loads for the next session. Pics  Attached File Attached FileSecond morning first 3 shots of day. 1100 yard 3 shot group. 7.5" I have had a smile since. Cold bore was in the heart, 2nd was low and 3rd was on top of 1st.  Attached File Attached FileThanks for the fine shooting rifle Mark. I will put it to good use. I wonder how the Prime ammo shoots?..... |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 12:47:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Do you think the ELDs had too much jump? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Shutterlife:
My hand loads were: New Lapua brass Berger 6.5mm 130 grain AR Hyrbid CCI Large Rifle Primer BR-2 Hodgdon H4350 OAL 2.800" The Hornady 130 grain ELD OAL measured at 2.792" Do you think the ELDs had too much jump? I'm gonna have to measure it. I do know there was inconsistent pressure. I have two more boxes to test before giving up on it. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 4:46:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog:
Very pleased with my 260. I was able to get it zeroed at 200 and make repeatable hits out to 1400 yards this weekend. I was using factory Hornady 130 match. Bushnell scope with G3 reticle, Harris bipod and accuracy first level. I will be working on some hand loads for the next session. Pics https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2166-164560.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2155-164577.JPG Second morning first 3 shots of day. 1100 yard 3 shot group. 7.5" I have had a smile since. Cold bore was in the heart, 2nd was low and 3rd was on top of 1st. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2174-164591.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2170-164593.JPG Thanks for the fine shooting rifle Mark. I will put it to good use. I wonder how the Prime ammo shoots?..... Very nice! Where you at in AZ? That terrain looks like some I recall when I drove up to Page / Glen Canyon. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 7:41:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog:
Very pleased with my 260. I was able to get it zeroed at 200 and make repeatable hits out to 1400 yards this weekend. I was using factory Hornady 130 match. Bushnell scope with G3 reticle, Harris bipod and accuracy first level. I will be working on some hand loads for the next session. Pics https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2166-164560.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2155-164577.JPG Second morning first 3 shots of day. 1100 yard 3 shot group. 7.5" I have had a smile since. Cold bore was in the heart, 2nd was low and 3rd was on top of 1st. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2174-164591.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2170-164593.JPG Thanks for the fine shooting rifle Mark. I will put it to good use. I wonder how the Prime ammo shoots?..... 1,400 with a gas gun? Unpossible
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Posted: 3/13/2017 10:33:29 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Very nice! Where you at in AZ? That turrain looks like some I recall when I drive up to Page / Glen Canyon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
<strong>Originally Posted By rugerdog:</strong>
Very pleased with my 260. I was able to get it zeroed at 200 and make repeatable hits out to 1400 yards this weekend. I was using factory Hornady 130 match. Bushnell scope with G3 reticle, Harris bipod and accuracy first level. I will be working on some hand loads for the next session. Pics <a href="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2166-164560.JPG" target="_blank">https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2166-164560.JPG</a> <a href="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2155-164577.JPG" target="_blank">https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2155-164577.JPG</a> Second morning first 3 shots of day. 1100 yard 3 shot group. 7.5" I have had a smile since. Cold bore was in the heart, 2nd was low and 3rd was on top of 1st. <a href="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2174-164591.JPG" target="_blank">https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2174-164591.JPG</a> <a href="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2170-164593.JPG" target="_blank">https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-2170-164593.JPG</a> Thanks for the fine shooting rifle Mark. I will put it to good use. I wonder how the Prime ammo shoots?..... Very nice! Where you at in AZ? That turrain looks like some I recall when I drive up to Page / Glen Canyon. Range is next to Glen Canyon in SE Utah. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 11:18:33 AM EDT
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Side note on the Hornady 130 match ammo.
I was not impressed with the spread on MV for the first 30 rds fired from the Rifle. The spread for the first 10 was 63fps. It did however tighten up to an ES of 19 fps for rds 20- 30. I was using Lab Radar for MV data. The rounds picked up some speed as the barrel started to get some copper in it. The last 10 rds I ran data for averaged 2749 fps. The first round through the gun was 2711 fps. The rifle liked the Hornady, especially day 2. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 11:26:01 AM EDT
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What do you guys think the max range is of the gun maintaining repeatable accuracy is?
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Posted: 3/13/2017 11:27:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeep450:
What do you guys think the max range is of the gun maintaining repeatable accuracy is? I think at these ranges it has more to do with the arrow than the bow. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2017 1:23:25 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
HH6 relayed my case of Prime arrived! She wasn't too happy about more ammo, but I'm sure she'll get over it. Greetings from Japan! Pretty standard Japanese room: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP3-163002.jpg However, I was upgraded and have a traditional Japanese sitting area and a view of the lake! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP1-163003.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/JP2-163004.jpg Very Rad defender son 
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Posted: 3/13/2017 2:39:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog:
Range is next to Glen Canyon in SE Utah. Thought it looked familiar. Maybe I'll drop you a note the next time I come up to visit the dam for a site check. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 3:04:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Very Rad defender son Arigatou gozaimasu Mettee san. It's hard to see, but a Japanese monkey ran across the road as we were driving back from the site. Snap shot iPotato pic... 
Japanese site in the AO: 
Where we "look:" 
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Posted: 3/13/2017 3:15:15 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog:
Side note on the Hornady 130 match ammo. I was not impressed with the spread on MV for the first 30 rds fired from the Rifle. The spread for the first 10 was 63fps. It did however tighten up to an ES of 19 fps for rds 20- 30. I was using Lab Radar for MV data. The rounds picked up some speed as the barrel started to get some copper in it. The last 10 rds I ran data for averaged 2749 fps. The first round through the gun was 2711 fps. The rifle liked the Hornady, especially day 2. How do you like the lab radar? I was thinking of getting one for the convenience versus the V3 I have now. Any must have accessories (besides the tripod)? TIA. |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 3:26:19 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shutterlife:
My hand loads were: New Lapua brass Berger 6.5mm 130 grain AR Hyrbid CCI Large Rifle Primer BR-2 Hodgdon H4350 OAL 2.800" The Hornady 130 grain ELD OAL measured at 2.792" BTW - I have those same components and can work up the same load to see if it might work in my rifle. |
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